Does Changing Weights in a NEW Scotty Cameron Putter Make A Difference?!
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Does Changing Weights in a NEW Scotty Cameron Putter Make A Difference?! We all love New golf clubs, and for me buying a new putter is one of the most fun things you can do. There are great putter brands out there, Odyssey make the stroke lab range, made the world famous odyssey 2-ball, the fang putters. Taylormade now have the spider range and taylormade spider x. but the best putter you can buy has to be a scotty Cameron. the reputation of being not only expensive but very very good speaks for themselves. in this video I see how you can personalise a scotty Cameron putter by changing the weights in it. we bought none official scotty Cameron Titleist weights from eBay for £10... will it make a difference? with new scotty camerons for 2020 on the horizon... lets find out... and lets do it now!
I swapped out my stock 15s for 30s and love it! Just seems so much easier to keep my stroke consistent.
I too like a heavy putter. Big thing I noticed just how much more confident you were right off the bat with the heavier weights. I think that's much more important
My understanding is that you want more weight for fast greens, less for slow. More weight is harder to accelerate and therefore better for fast greens. Putt distance varies with the square of the speed of the putter.
Do like the idea of a lighter putter during the summer and heavy in the winter.
Hi James i recently had a putter fitting with my club pro and got fitted for the Scotty Newport 2.5, awesome putter, getting fitted was great the weight and length feel just right and results are beginning to show. Having a putter that feels good, looks good and fits my swing path has inspired me to practice more and I now look forward to getting on the green and putting with confidence.
Cheers and thanks for your great videos and positive advice.
Loving my golf more.
Happy Golfing cheers Aussie Dave
david cooper yea practice promotes confidence and those are the keys to hitting each club better
Tried every weight and configuration with my SC Newport and finally nailed it. Got the idea from the Edel putter design where all weight has been milled out of the toe. Ended up with 10 grams in the heel and no weight at all in the toe. Brilliant! Smooth stroke and better balance overall. I will say that my putter is 37”, so balance has been an issue.
Also, been experimenting with Steve Stricker modified arm lock grip where he locks grip in his left hand and uses right as guide only. (Similar to the “claw”) Only I get better distance control with Stricker method.
Changed the weights w the Newport upto 25 grs per weight. Couldn’t stop it any more. Triple bogeys left and right. If you want to change the weights, get a few different ones, check the greens prior playing and then set it up
I think the only thing I worry about is having the ability to tinker too much. I used to have a Nike Method Counter Flex putter. I loved the feel and I prefer the mid mallet design. Unfortunately I kept changing the set up in the weight in the handle "experimenting" with what worked best. To say my putting suffered would be an understatement...lol! I think it is a great idea for anyone other than me! Keep up the great work James. Cheers!
Hi James, if you look at my message I sent this morning I think there is definitely a video too be made for putters past and present, cheep and expensive, long and short putters, different type of Grips golfers have, and some tips on better putting in general. Worth a thought as it’s the club we use the most in the bag and not many videos on putting which is a shame really. Just saying 🤔🤔🤔
I changed the weights in my Scotty Newport from 15 to 25 and had a grip with adjustable weights in the head (using the heavier weight) and found I reduced the number of 3 putts as my distance control improved. I use this combination both in the summer & the winter.
I discovered years ago that for me, a heavy putter is critical. When I test new putters, i will do practice strokes and if I can't take the club back slowly without it remaining incredible still on the back swing, then I just put it down and don't even hit a ball with it. I'm able to have great feel and distance control with heavy putters - the opposite is also absolutely true as well - I'm frighteningly bad with light head weight putters.
I've added lead tape to the toe and heel on my putter. Has improved my putting dramatically
interested in adding weight to my putter, lead tape great idea. Can it be removed easily?
@@gtsgolf9410 Yes it does. Peels off easily
@@justinpalmer2959 cheers justin
I live in San Diego and average two putts per round. I tried a lighter classic blade thinking it would help with drier greens but a heavier mallet is better for me. A shorter back swing equals more accuracy even on faster greens. It's just easier to use a longer follow through for longer putting distances in most cases.
Definitely try this with Chris. Would love to see the numbers on this test. Great video James. Really interesting 👍🏻
I just got an older Newport 2 ⭕️ T, it came w 30 gram weights in it. Distance control is amazing. Shorter putts can get a bit loose. This video and comments confirm that I’m gonna commit through the rest of this year
I have experimented pretty extensively, with different SC weights in their putters, under different playing conditions. I have found that the heavier weights worked better for me on faster greens, and lighter weights on slower greens. I have found this in three different models, the SC Phantom 6 str, an older select NP 2.5, and a Newport T22. (All 34.5, used 10, 15 and 20 gram weights)I personally felt that the heavier weights on faster greens allowed me to worry about stroke length at consistent tempo to manage distance control. The lighter weights were more consistent on slow greens where there had to be a little “hit” in the putting stroke.
Nice vid James and I do fully agree. I play the SC Select Newport (2014 version) with 30 gr weights in it! Changed the weights in the beginning of season and HCP dropped from 14,5 to 11,3. Next year ultimate goal single digids 🔥🔥🔥
Definitely love to see it with chris inside the putting studio. I prefer a heavier weighted putter but I wouldn’t change the weight for the summer I like the consistency in feel by leaving it alone
Great video James and nice and interesting 👏👏
I'm intrigued how much difference it would make only changing one weight
Club head weight is the one thing, that seems, forgotten in club fitting. I was fitted for Taylor made t730 irons. After playing with them for a few months, i got my club pro to weight them to d2 wing weight. They are graphite shafts with senior flex. The extra weight means I can feel the head now, making for a more confident swing. Incidentally I'm over seventy with a nineteen handicap. And no I don't need game improvement clubs.
I get exactly what you are talking about. I use a Scotty Cameron Newport 2.5 on faster greens and I use a Taylormade SPYDER X on slower greens. I like the control of the SC on the faster greens and struggle with long slower puts with it but like the SPYDER X for slower greens, feels like I get the ball to the hole more constantly and better control with the X.
Great vlog James! I changed to heavier weights in both my Scotty Newport and my Spider X. What I found was it was easier to get distances dialed in from longer putts but it was a little harder on shorter putts. The heavier weights made the shirt putts go farther than the hole so I have had to adjust.
I can see how weighting is important with any club, but I think if people out there need to change the weights to improve their putting then they probably bought the wrong putter. In saying that, I totally understand the concept behind this test and the possibility of making a good putter, great. I think there is more merit in adding weight to the toe or heel to help square the face. Maybe that's a test worth trying.
First thing I did when I got my futura x7 is put to 25g weights in it and I love it
On my last putter (Odyssey 7) I used to experiment with taking the weights out.....I quite like a lighter putter and it's harder to find them these days, especially in mallet form. I currently use a Ping Fetch which I change the length of depending on which grip I am using. I also add layers of tennis/badminton grip depending on the grip I am using. I wouldn't mind a putter that can go anywhere from light to heavy depending on which weights you put in....and by light I mean lighter than current fashion.
I sent my old version of the Squareback 2 back to Scotty's shop for some custom work done with 25 gram weights and they called me up to send the original weights back or they wouldn't do anything with it. So I sent back the 20 gram weights it came with back to them. They called me again. Told that's what it came with. They did the work and it came back with 15 gram weights epoxied in. And kept my heavy weights.
Any Squareback 2 up until 2020, with Standard 20 gram weights would have been a 33" Length originally. A 34" would have had 15 gram weights.
To the best of my knowledge SC only offered 10/15/20 weights prior to 2020.
The 30/35/40 gram Tungsten were introduced with the 2020 Special Selects and only in the *Newport, Newport 2, and Newport 2.5* because these *2 Heads* are specifically smaller and thinner, thus about 40 grams lighter to begin with.
Did you buy IT New or Used?
I had 2 20g (so, by far it was the heaviest putter I had ever used) weights in my Scotty newport 2, and pretty sure it was the best putter I ever had before I lost it.
It is probably mostly down to whatever you prefer, some prefer lighter heads and some heavier. But, your points are valid still!
Feel is important for putting so I agree if a heavier weight makes you feel the path better then you should use it.
This was also a test on your path as well though. If we hit a putt with the same force and one is low and the other high, the high side putt will be closer. It’s why getting a putter that suits your eye and stroke is super important.
Very spooky look at the message I sent you this morning before the video came out, I’m interested in this video because I’ve just bought the Scotty Cameron 6 straight putter but it’s centre shafted. Now I’ll watch the rest of your video😂😂
I’ll take a look mate! Hope your well!
James Robinson Golf I’m fine James thanks for asking, hope you and your family are keeping well 👍👍👍
Try the Cure putter- comes with a weight kit and two wrenches - one to remove or add weight and the second wrench allows you to change the shaft lie angle. You can actually allow it to stand upright behind the ball for checking your alignment with the hole. I have two 30s in my Scotty GoLo S. Big improvement!
Added weight brings more feel. Have always preferred heavier putters. Lighter causes you to have to generate more momentum which causes inconsistency because you have to bring the putter back farther for the same distance.
All depends upon the Player and their own "stroke style".
For those wanting to try multiple different weights in their putters, I suggest trying lighter weights first then proceed up to heavier weights. I find that going heavier to lighter causes you to lose the feel in the lighter weights. Also, I have seen when I use a light putter head my back stoke wavers on takeaway and I am less consistent on strike on the face and distance control.
Very interesting experiment! I tried different weight for the Mizuno putter which has 3 additional options and non of them was successful other than stock weight.
Those experiment made myself confused with too much thinking. So my conclusion was weight is not that important
Also when you buy Scotty I find out 33inch has the heaviest weight, 35in has the lightest weight on it , and 34in has in the middle. I strongly believe Scotty Cameron has year long experiment on the balance of the putters including the some factors of putter length, grip size, grip weight, and weight itself
So I trust Scotty's research and what I have to do is trying to adjust myself on it
My gamer is a 380gm putter head and my backup is 400gm so yeah, I like a heavy putter.
Yes get in the studio. But it's prob still cheaper to buy the weights and do some tinkering than going to Chris or another pro.
I quite like a heavy putter as the greens i usually play are generally slow however links golf definitely lighter. I prefer heavy weighted clubs in general
What if you try even more weight? Drastically heavier yet. Is there a max weight that is helpful before it feels like a sledgehammer?
Great video James.
Have a Newport 3 since it came out but I had an awful problem at the start with leaving putts short even from 10ft. Extremely frustrating when they are on line and coming up 6 inches short. So instead of changing back to my old putter I changed the weights from 10g each to 20g each (cheap ones off ebay too, weighed them at 19g each but at least they were equal). Still have the odd 3 putt but its almost always from the other side of the hole now. I know the putter is expensive day one but its a big help when you can play around with the weights rather than finding a new one or going back to an old one.
James - as well as the added weight for a smoother stroke I think the putter will be more forgiving on off-centre hits due to where the weights are positioned. A win-win all round!!
I changed the 30g weights to 40g. The difference was very noticeable, the addition weight made the putter swing much better, I won’t be going back to a lighter head.
Bought a PXG Gunboat with extra weights after a putter fitting. I plan on testing a variety of weights to get the best feel. Also have a 25gm weight in the grip. I really like the feel of a heavier putter and during the fitting this bore out. Can’t wait to get it dialed in! Great content as always!
Fitted for a Scotty Newport 2 Notchback 38" counterbalance. Already very heavy with additional weight in the shaft and 15g x 2 in the head. Still love it, but would be good to try more weight in the winter, lets face it, most people leave it short.
I play with a Scottie Newport (2012) and changed the weights from 10 grams to 15grams and it did make a difference. Your video would encourage me to go one more step to 20grams, 40 in total. Very interesting.
removed 15 grams weight from my stroke lab seven and tried 20 & 25 gram weights..... 20g works for me, lot more stable, especially on knee knockers.....
Have been talking about it iv got 20 gramme weights in mine defo gonna up the weight thanks James
get with Chris and do a complete computer test with toe, heel, combo, etc. would be interesting
James interesting. Anything that can help my putting I am all for. Well done.
Thanks david! Do you think you’ll give it a go?
@@JamesRobinsonGolf I have put lead tape on the back of my old Odyssey putter in the past. Might give it a go again for the winter. Failing that I will continue to use a heavier putter in the winter.
I play Odyssey marxman.The head is already rather heavy and not ajustable.. but I had to shorten the shaft for i'm right handed and left eyed. Still struggling. It works better with setting it up and aiming with the inscription and line marked on the Ball.👍🏻😁
Like it!
I was fitted for mine mate. I’m using a Odyssey White Hot RX 2 Ball
I Have a Scotty Cameron newport3 and I put the lightest weights I could find in the head. 5 grams each it's a 35" putter. I have always used lightweight putters. I prefer to be able to feel the shot and how firm I strike the ball.
Currently have a RIFE putter (about 8years old) which came with interchangeable weights light, medium and heavy to allow for personal preference and the change in conditions i.e. summer to winter. Although I'm booked in for a putter fitting soon so will see how that goes.
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the putter's extra weight will cause you to hit a putt shorter, not longer. It takes more effort from the person to swing a heavier putter. But the putter's weight alone will have no affect on ball speed.
For this reason, heavier weight can be better for faster greens, and lighter weight can be better for slower greens (in general).
I use a phantom 6 str. It's like that putter but it has a straight shaft
Love and hate these videos. Love them as find them Informative. Hate them as I will likely go and blow 300 quid on (another) a putter thinking I will putt like James 🙈🙈. Good work though mate 👍🏻
I am usually a person who goes with the stock build but after seeing this video I am thinking about changing the weights in my Scotty.
Putters, Putters, Putters!
I love the idea of a heavier putter myself. I just feel that it takes some of the handsiness (is that a word?) out of my stroke.
This is my new obsession right now! I've been working hard on my putting recently, and have been experimenting with different putters lately too!
I just put an EVNROLL ER2 putter in the bag as a test to see if all that tech can make a difference over my trusty (no tech) 2004 Scotty Cameron Newport 2.5 ! No idea if I'll end up keeping it yet, but its a fun experiment with a putter that has as much, if not more, tech than anything out there! It's a tall mountain to climb for the EVNROLL though. I love my Scotty!
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Fast becoming my favourite channel for reviews and information.. may even make a trip over to Huddersfield!
Thanks Mark! Give me a shout if you get over my way
Good test but I'd have liked to have seen you do it blind as it sounded like your perception of what you wanted to feel in the putter head may have had an impact on results with the heavier weights! Interesting nonetheless 👍🏻
I think it’d be great to see you do some numbers with Chris. I’d be interested in how it might impact MOI and energy transfer. I also think it’s interesting how the weights are in the front whereas TM and Odyssey are in the back of the head - anything in that difference?
sent in my Scotty to the Custom Shop to get prersonalized over the winter. also shortening it and getting some heavier weights in it. gonna be interesting next year
I am constantly playing around with weights on my Scotty Cameron Futura putter. Also purchased weight kit on ebay.
Im glad you found the right weight that works for you.
Need to look at the Newport 2.5 or any for that matter and changing the toe weights to see if can speed up or slow down toe flow to find that perfect square face :)
Toe Flow actually slows the closing of the Face Angle. If you Push putts, more Toe Weight than Heel Weight will cause a more pronounced Push.
If you tend to Pull putts more Toe Weight would help.
The cheap way to experiment is with Precisely Weighed 5 gram pieces of Lead Tape that are easily added over the existing weights.
It would be great to see an indoor test using both sets of weights
I've got an old newport 2 and just realised how light it is compared to some newer putters
When Scotty went to Adjustable Weight Heads the unweighted basic heads all went up 20 grams in weight to begin with - before the insertion of the Weights.
Got me a Scotty C Special Select Newport (Tour use only). It's 35 ins, with 35 g weights. Looking to get some different weights to go in it to see how it fares in differing conditions. My previous putter (which I still use also) is a Ping Pal 4, so my first act was to get some weights for the SC Putter to get it as close as possible, weight-wise, to the Ping.
The Standard Weight in a S S Newport 35" is 30 grams.
35 g/ 34", 40 g/ 33"
You are already 5g × 2 heavier than Standard.
James, how about testing the effects of different heel/toe weights, e.g. 10g in the heel and 20g in the toe. Just how much does this effect toe hang and face angle. is it actually possiblr to adjust a high toe hang (say 40 degree) to something more face balanced (say on 12 degrees) just with the adjustable weights?
I have a cure RX3 currently set at 434 grammes 9500 moi you can add weights from 387 up to 586 grammes 8,100 to 14,200 moi. Might well try increasing weight in winter.
Though weights are more for preference, they were put on blades so that players who prefer the blade look can have some of the effects of a heavier malleted putter, such as keeping a steadier putting stroke with the momentum of the heavier putter. Also, heavier putters are better for faster greens. The momentum created by a heavier putter allows you to have a shorter more controlled putting stroke, and quiets down the hands through the putting stroke which get ris of some of the hand manipulations.
I have a scotty Cameron Futura CB, yes I was fitted for this putter love the feel, however still struggle with my distance control but I always have done regardless of which putter i have.
I also have the CB and struggle with distances and feel of the face. Thought it was just me. Might try heavier weights.
Would be great to see you do this with some random folks at the golf course to hear their 10 second reaction to the difference as well. Maybe remove the hole from the equation and just focus on distance control.
I have a Scotty Cameron Squareback 2. Sent it in for customization with 20gram weights, came back with 15gram weights. I took things farther than you. I added 35gram weights to the head and a 25gram weight to the butt of the shaft. Like you went with after market weights.
My 35” scotty champions choice button back 5.5 is toe hang with 10g in it..
I’ve put a 20g in toe and 15g in heal.//
Money..
Stopped leaving short or out to right.
I would love for you to do a comparison of several High MOI putters...Spider, stroke lab bird of pray, ping konlinc, and cure
I've been meaning to try eccentric weighting in my Scotty (i.e. heavier weight on the outside vs. inside and vice versa). I always have a push with my stroke and I'm wondering if the eccentricity might help correct it!
Is your Putter Face Balanced or Toe Flow?
A Straight Stroke Player using a Toe Flow Putter will usually miss to the Push Side (Right for Right Handed), IF Aim and Alignment are Correct.
An Arc Stroke Player will PULL with a Face Balanced Putter.
The Putter James is using here is Face Balanced.
@@apaulmcdonough2170 It's face balanced and I'm straight back, straight through. Eccentric weights did help, but I've since gone to a L.A.B. putter which is amazing in comparison.
@@mgallag4 thanks for the Response.
I would confirm your Aim and Alignment with each Putter.
Pushing with a Face Balanced Putter is due to Either a Slight Inside Out Stroke OR Aiming Right of Target.
James did you do that test with Chris??????????? If so, when??????????💪💪💪🤔🤔🤔😀😀😀
I’m putting straight with regularity but for long putts when I accelerate I pull a little sometimes.
Titleist national fitting center set a Scotty for me this morning with heavier weight to fix that.
Good video and subject. I have played on greens where even if you just touch the ball it would roll 10 feet. I liked a light, well bounced putter with an extremely soft face for those so I could put my normal stroke on the ball. I didn't want to decelerate the clubhead. But that combination failed miserably on soft, slow greens. I would 'get out' of my stroke because I felt I had to force the ball to get it to the hole. My grip would tighten too. I use a heavier weight, harder face putter for those greens. It allows me again to make my normal, unforced stroke with a light grip.
I have two putters my old Ram Zebra with adjustable weight in the sole (Washers) it is used when the greens are slow. My Odyssey White Hot XG Teron Putter for fast greens.
Great test ...
Very eye opening I have a original Taylormade daddy long legs no wieght ports and I always wondered about put lead tape on it now I'll definitely have a go..
Put in one light and one heavy to see if it manipulates the face through the stroke.
Good idea mate
@@JamesRobinsonGolf I'd like to see the same thing. My putts almost alway head right of the hole. Maybe with a light in one and heavy in another I had thought it might help. But my putter doesn't have weights.
@@larrystark9141 Two words: Lead tape.
Would like to see heavier vs lighter to change a face balanced to some toe hang, and maybe vice versa with a toe hang to be less toe hang.
I have a SC Del Mar with 35g in the Toe and 20g in the Heel, due to shaft config, face flow and more square at impact. Also have a Futura 5s, 15g Toe and 35g Heel. again face flow and at impact square, I am a straight back and through putter, hence the mallet types and weight configs help with misses to the right. Currently the Futura is working the best. I have worked hours getting to this point and realization of feel.
I have customized every putter I have owned...Ha, and I am still searching for the holy grail of putters...good luck with your quest.
Nice video James. Have you tried to put a 15 and 20 gram weight in to adjust the balance? That would be interesting.
definitely prefer a heavier head on a putter, seems easier to reproduce a consistent swing and therefore better pace control
I have the Special Newport 2.5 which came with 30 gm weights. At present I’m toying with the 25, 35 & 40 gm weights to see which suits me better. Early days as we only last Saturday went on to summer greens. I’m thinking of starting with the heaviest and work down the weights as the season progresses and the greens improve. James, where in your stance have you found the optimum ball position relative the centre line?
I've tested this on my Newport 2.5 34in that had 15g weights to 20 gram weights made my putting stroke more consistent. Also did it with my Taylormade Balboa TP 34in. I gated the weights sonthe inside weight is 20g and the toe is 15g. I went from missing to the right to dead on center.
IF you increased the Heel weight in your Newport 2.5, you diminished the Toe Flow. Too Much Toe Flow for a Player leads to PUSHES.
Hi James, really enjoy your channel. Yes please do the follow up as I’m very interested as I have a 2018 Newport 2.5 and would like to see the out come. Oh yah hi from Canada.
Seems to me that most of the difference between good putts and my usual efforts is in wrists, watching the putter go past the ball and feel. Can equipment overcome my faults? I doubt it but practice sure helps!
Another good video. Never had moveable weights in a putter but if I did I would try what you have done to find best feel.
Love to see this in the studio but with less tape just for interest 👍 how nice did that Scotty look though
Good video putting is so personal and improvements make massive difference to your score.
Confidence is King!!!
I recommend heavier weights for those who have trouble keeping there putting stroke on the same line as the line to your target. The heavier putter will create more momentum helping you from getting off your intended line.
How noticeable is the 10g difference?
That depends upon the person holding it.
I like a heavy putter. My first nice putter, a Rife, I bought from my CA country club. It might have been a demo or an orphan as they sold it to me for a big discount. A couple of years ago, I bought a Callaway double ball triple track for $350. It seemed to light to me, as compared to my Rife. So, I bought a weight kit for another $100 (yikes) which helped it, but DAMN $450 for a putter that’s no better than my Rife.
I've changed the weights in my scotty golo 5s. I put heavier weights because the greens used to be slow
I like the heavier feel also. Lets you know where the head is. Good feedback.
I’m amazed it makes it feel so different. Good vid.
Loved your vicarious effort James 😀
Are 20g the heaviest and 15g lightest?
Barry Stone The 35 inch comes with 2x 10gram. The Scotty Custom Shop has 25g weights available - at least for some models, likely Phantom X too.
James' Putter is 34", so 15g weights are Standard. 33" = 20g, 35" = 10g
This is done to keep Swing Weight consistent as Shaft Length increases or decreases.