Strongly disagree regarding metal. It's one of the most diverse and experimental genres of contemporary music and shares a lot of the complexity of classical music. Some bands worth checking out for anyone who likes classical: Tool, Deftones, Opeth, Type O Negative, Dream Theater, Gojira, Meshuggah, Dillinger Escape Plan, Animals as Leaders, Porcupine Tree.
He probably just listened to the wrong bands, because let's be honest. Many bands are kind of a "heard one song, heard them all" type of deal. You have a great list there for more interesting stuff.
Since you're really into classical music, I'd like to see a follow-up video where you rank the seven different periods (Medieval, Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, 20th century/Modern, and 21st century/Postmodern).
it's bizarre for me you putting jazz so low..for me as a pianist and composer playing classical music and jazz is what merges perfectly and develop your musical language and skills of the highest form (yes, I'm a snob), some jazz ballads and improvisation sound like later Ravel or Debussy or the late 19th,20th century classical music. THE HARMONY. Maybe your're more into early classical. Nevertheless, of course every genre has good or bad music :)
You’re wrong about heavy metal. Saying that it is repetitive is about as stereotypical as saying classical music is relaxing. There are more sub-genres in metal than in any other genre of music, and a bunch of it is highly classically influenced. Some of the most creative music written today is in some sub-genre of metal. Progressive metal is my favorite like between the buried and me, middle period Opeth and early to middle period symphony x. These bands are ultra creative and anything but repetitive.
I agree with you, but I also kind of get what he means. Metal is very diverse and has loads of subgenres (some of which are arguably undeserved), and many of the great bands get overshadowed by the not-so-great bands that can be not only repetitive, but lacking in dynamics. For example, look at doom or stoner metal. Many of those bands play the same notes in the same tuning and are extremely repetitive. It's part of the style, but it's not for everybody, you know? But then again, this logic can apply to nearly any style of music. There's a reason why different styles of music get their own "cliches" or "stereotypes." Ultimately, it's up to the listener to dive deeper instead of just looking at the most popular artists.
@@hitm43 hey hitm43, what's up! You probably know more about heavy metal than I do. I mentioned to someone else the my big brother was really into it, so that's where my exposure comes from. But yeah, I for sure haven't dug as deep into each genre as people truly love the genres. I bet very few people could make this kind of video about so many genres and truly know the breadth of each one. Lol, I consider myself an expert in classical music and there's still tons of it I'm not aware of, so for sure I'm more mainstreamy on my heavy metal knowledge.
I hate anything that is 'cookie-cutter' and has required barely any originality or musical skills. I'm a big snob. I like a lot of other musical genres, but only when I can respect the artist. So I love Queen, Abba, the Beatles, Simon and Garfunkel (showing my age now), and many more besides. But would I take any of them to a desert island? Nope.
Yeah, you're right. I think the hardest thing about making a tierlist about music genres is I love some music from basically every era and genre. I have some "avant garde" that's blown my mind and really enjoy it. So I'm basically generalizing each style and trying to take more of an average.
@@soozb15 that's the hope, to have a little fun with it and hopefully give a little joy/ laughs. Videos like this are really just my opinion, someone could love my lowest 3 and it's cool.
Reggae is understandably not everyone's cup of tea, but most people couldn't name a reggae artist who ISN'T Bob Marley (he's great, though). Raging Fyah, Dennis Brown, Jacob Miller, Nattali Rize, Toots and the Maytals, and Gregory Isaacs are a few great ones. Modern reggae tends to be produced more, so I've heard a distinction between that and "roots reggae" now. The whole umbrella of reggae, ska, and rocksteady have influenced other styles of music like punk and jazz. The New York Ska-Jazz Ensemble is a band that I find interesting (they're known for their interpretation on "Take Five"). Metal is something that's hard to put your foot into because it's grown to be very diverse with many daunting subgenres. Not every band screams; some do cleans or both, and others are instrumental. Many bands take influence from so many other things, and some are a soup of them all (such as, Diablo Swing Orchestra). You might like more "progressive" bands like Opeth, Periphery, Mastodon, or Animals as Leaders. Megadeth is a classic, and they're one of my favourites. The vocals are an acquired taste, but the guitar work is top-notch. There's also a lot of "metalcore" bands on the rage right now, and Electric Callboy is one of my favourite bands ever. A lot of bands have earned the reputation for being repetitive, so you might want to look a bit further in.
I respect that you don´t like metal, I mean most of people don´t like it either. Like other people already wrote, you can´t just say it is too repetitive and basic knowing that it is certainly the most diverse music genre there is, and i´m pretty sure that the most technical play there is will be found in metal. Bands like Nile, Death, Necrophagist, Archspire, Rings of saturn are harmonically and melodically way more complex than 99% of other bands from other genres you mentionned. Putting punk rock in the upper category is a total nonsense for this reason because it is way more basic than metal and there is nothing to admire about it. It is born to be devious and wild, and punk bands just play the same riff over and over again, spitting antisocietal lyrics. Just to understand your opinion on EDM, do you have an example of a band you would consider PERFECT in this genre?
Haha, I had to do a little googling to get the reference. Obviously the issue with this type of video is each style doesn't quite get justice. Every style has some great artists and songs but spending 5 minutes on each genre would make for a long video. But yes you're right, from a three song sampling, Wu-Tang Clan doesn't seem to be my thing. Not saying they're not important, just not my style of music.
I actually have, back in high school my older brother got really into it. I have more exposure to it than some other styles on this list, R&B for example. Some I liked a little, but it's really not my thing in general.
@@ryanabshier Yeah seems your brother had a taste different from yours. Your point on it being repetitive is relatable btw, after some time you really get sick of some classic metal stuff. And in my opinion, that's the time when metal shines the most since it is really (really) diverse. I have found myself enjoying the crazy blend of classic metalcore and edm recently, proceeding to stuff like rap-metal with traditional indian elements. If your are willing to give metal a last shot, I would suggest you checking out Dream Theater (you know shit is serious when the song is 24 minutes and you are not bored) or later Avenged Sevenfold albums (The Stage or Life is but a Dream). Those artists are really proggy, with a lot of experimentation not only with the metal genre itself, but with music as a whole
20th century classical music and rap are absolute garbage. All other categories, I like some and I dislike some. The fact that you don't like country or folk, is sad because I love both.
I think putting country in garbage because of bro country from the 2000s and 2010s is pretty silly. Frankly, listen to better country. Johnny Cash, Tyler Childers, Turnpike Troubadours. Country has a lot more depth than you think, and country musicians (specifically fiddle players like me) have a lot of overlap with the classical sphere.
@@carbonmonoxide5052 yeah, it's a little harsh. However I don't love the older country either. Like I mentioned to someone else, I enjoy some music from everything on this list, so I can't judge each genre by my favorite examples, I'm taking more of an average. So if the best in my mind of country was Johnny Cash, for example, I might put it somewhere in the middle tiers, but definitely not garbage. Not saying it's all bad, or that Cash isn't talented, but it doesn't speak to me much. But him as an individual artist wouldn't be garbage for sure. That being said, my mom always loved Johnny Cash and I do get some real good nostalgia listening to him. But as a whole, I don't love country.
Hey, put some respect for rap! Seriously man, I feel like most people don't respect the lyricism in rap. If you think about it, you have to be a little smart to even craft out a verse(like Eminem). So for that, rap should be in the great category
Stimulating topic. Let the results begin: 1. You can classify rock into two categories: Smart rock and dumb rock. To each according to their expressive (or, unfortunately, mercenary) needs. 2. That said, there is a lot of classical music that is not listenable, since it suffered from the same cheap copycat syndrome that degrades all art. It suffered from having to please the ultra-rich (Baroque and Classical), then out-glorifying one's own sensitivities over everyone else's (Romantic), then experimenting with mechanical, emotionless, tasteless fare (20th Century). 3. Rock is aimed at crowds (the larger the better), but less so with smart rock, which is more individual listener oriented. 4.. The future of music? That which is directed at the core individual that is identical in all humans (that which is stripped of all foolish pretense) (just one of the symptoms of Continued Universal Human Cluelessness*). *as defined by Broader Survival
As metal fan i think most of the metal is actual garbage. But there is really good music, obviously. For example, some modern bands like unprocessed or maybe monuments, olly steele solo project not bad too. Architects now pretty radio-friendly and yet still pretty metal, like them a lot. Myabe some classic dream theater. I personally like early linkin park. I like recent Bring me the horizon songs. Im not sure if you count yngwie malmsteen as metal, but his music is great. Its not all i can name. Anyway, metal is obviosly music not for everybody, but i dont think it deserves garbage tier. With no hard feelings to the author of the video.
Strongly disagree regarding metal. It's one of the most diverse and experimental genres of contemporary music and shares a lot of the complexity of classical music. Some bands worth checking out for anyone who likes classical: Tool, Deftones, Opeth, Type O Negative, Dream Theater, Gojira, Meshuggah, Dillinger Escape Plan, Animals as Leaders, Porcupine Tree.
yngwie malmsteen himself should bump it up haha, his concert suite alone could carry the whole category imo
He probably just listened to the wrong bands, because let's be honest. Many bands are kind of a "heard one song, heard them all" type of deal. You have a great list there for more interesting stuff.
Since you're really into classical music, I'd like to see a follow-up video where you rank the seven different periods (Medieval, Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, 20th century/Modern, and 21st century/Postmodern).
@@ericrakestraw664 thats a great idea. My heart really wants to pick 3 and it would be tough to make a final determination
it's bizarre for me you putting jazz so low..for me as a pianist and composer playing classical music and jazz is what merges perfectly and develop your musical language and skills of the highest form (yes, I'm a snob), some jazz ballads and improvisation sound like later Ravel or Debussy or the late 19th,20th century classical music. THE HARMONY. Maybe your're more into early classical. Nevertheless, of course every genre has good or bad music :)
You’re wrong about heavy metal. Saying that it is repetitive is about as stereotypical as saying classical music is relaxing.
There are more sub-genres in metal than in any other genre of music, and a bunch of it is highly classically influenced. Some of the most creative music written today is in some sub-genre of metal. Progressive metal is my favorite like between the buried and me, middle period Opeth and early to middle period symphony x. These bands are ultra creative and anything but repetitive.
I agree with you, but I also kind of get what he means. Metal is very diverse and has loads of subgenres (some of which are arguably undeserved), and many of the great bands get overshadowed by the not-so-great bands that can be not only repetitive, but lacking in dynamics. For example, look at doom or stoner metal. Many of those bands play the same notes in the same tuning and are extremely repetitive. It's part of the style, but it's not for everybody, you know? But then again, this logic can apply to nearly any style of music. There's a reason why different styles of music get their own "cliches" or "stereotypes." Ultimately, it's up to the listener to dive deeper instead of just looking at the most popular artists.
@@hitm43 hey hitm43, what's up! You probably know more about heavy metal than I do. I mentioned to someone else the my big brother was really into it, so that's where my exposure comes from. But yeah, I for sure haven't dug as deep into each genre as people truly love the genres.
I bet very few people could make this kind of video about so many genres and truly know the breadth of each one. Lol, I consider myself an expert in classical music and there's still tons of it I'm not aware of, so for sure I'm more mainstreamy on my heavy metal knowledge.
Couldn’t watch live because I was in a lesson.
Well, time to quit piano lessons if it's interfering with RUclips...oh wait, bad advice.
@@ryanabshier lol
I hate anything that is 'cookie-cutter' and has required barely any originality or musical skills. I'm a big snob. I like a lot of other musical genres, but only when I can respect the artist. So I love Queen, Abba, the Beatles, Simon and Garfunkel (showing my age now), and many more besides. But would I take any of them to a desert island? Nope.
Yeah, you're right. I think the hardest thing about making a tierlist about music genres is I love some music from basically every era and genre. I have some "avant garde" that's blown my mind and really enjoy it. So I'm basically generalizing each style and trying to take more of an average.
@ryanabshier you set yourself a near-impossible task, I reckon! Fun, though...
@@soozb15 that's the hope, to have a little fun with it and hopefully give a little joy/ laughs. Videos like this are really just my opinion, someone could love my lowest 3 and it's cool.
There are only 2 types of music. Good music and Bad music. You’ll know the difference when you hear it.
Reggae is understandably not everyone's cup of tea, but most people couldn't name a reggae artist who ISN'T Bob Marley (he's great, though). Raging Fyah, Dennis Brown, Jacob Miller, Nattali Rize, Toots and the Maytals, and Gregory Isaacs are a few great ones. Modern reggae tends to be produced more, so I've heard a distinction between that and "roots reggae" now. The whole umbrella of reggae, ska, and rocksteady have influenced other styles of music like punk and jazz. The New York Ska-Jazz Ensemble is a band that I find interesting (they're known for their interpretation on "Take Five").
Metal is something that's hard to put your foot into because it's grown to be very diverse with many daunting subgenres. Not every band screams; some do cleans or both, and others are instrumental. Many bands take influence from so many other things, and some are a soup of them all (such as, Diablo Swing Orchestra). You might like more "progressive" bands like Opeth, Periphery, Mastodon, or Animals as Leaders. Megadeth is a classic, and they're one of my favourites. The vocals are an acquired taste, but the guitar work is top-notch. There's also a lot of "metalcore" bands on the rage right now, and Electric Callboy is one of my favourite bands ever. A lot of bands have earned the reputation for being repetitive, so you might want to look a bit further in.
I respect that you don´t like metal, I mean most of people don´t like it either. Like other people already wrote, you can´t just say it is too repetitive and basic knowing that it is certainly the most diverse music genre there is, and i´m pretty sure that the most technical play there is will be found in metal. Bands like Nile, Death, Necrophagist, Archspire, Rings of saturn are harmonically and melodically way more complex than 99% of other bands from other genres you mentionned.
Putting punk rock in the upper category is a total nonsense for this reason because it is way more basic than metal and there is nothing to admire about it. It is born to be devious and wild, and punk bands just play the same riff over and over again, spitting antisocietal lyrics.
Just to understand your opinion on EDM, do you have an example of a band you would consider PERFECT in this genre?
if it were up to you the first wu-tang clan album would be called enter the wu-tang: 36 torture chambers
Haha, I had to do a little googling to get the reference. Obviously the issue with this type of video is each style doesn't quite get justice. Every style has some great artists and songs but spending 5 minutes on each genre would make for a long video.
But yes you're right, from a three song sampling, Wu-Tang Clan doesn't seem to be my thing. Not saying they're not important, just not my style of music.
@@ryanabshier it was my first thought as to what kind of rap you would be talking about in the video
btw my profile picture is of a rap album
I doubt you've listened to much metal at all.
I actually have, back in high school my older brother got really into it. I have more exposure to it than some other styles on this list, R&B for example. Some I liked a little, but it's really not my thing in general.
@@ryanabshier Yeah seems your brother had a taste different from yours. Your point on it being repetitive is relatable btw, after some time you really get sick of some classic metal stuff. And in my opinion, that's the time when metal shines the most since it is really (really) diverse. I have found myself enjoying the crazy blend of classic metalcore and edm recently, proceeding to stuff like rap-metal with traditional indian elements.
If your are willing to give metal a last shot, I would suggest you checking out Dream Theater (you know shit is serious when the song is 24 minutes and you are not bored) or later Avenged Sevenfold albums (The Stage or Life is but a Dream).
Those artists are really proggy, with a lot of experimentation not only with the metal genre itself, but with music as a whole
JUSTICE FOR RAP
20th century classical music and rap are absolute garbage. All other categories, I like some and I dislike some. The fact that you don't like country or folk, is sad because I love both.
I think putting country in garbage because of bro country from the 2000s and 2010s is pretty silly. Frankly, listen to better country. Johnny Cash, Tyler Childers, Turnpike Troubadours. Country has a lot more depth than you think, and country musicians (specifically fiddle players like me) have a lot of overlap with the classical sphere.
@@carbonmonoxide5052 yeah, it's a little harsh. However I don't love the older country either.
Like I mentioned to someone else, I enjoy some music from everything on this list, so I can't judge each genre by my favorite examples, I'm taking more of an average. So if the best in my mind of country was Johnny Cash, for example, I might put it somewhere in the middle tiers, but definitely not garbage. Not saying it's all bad, or that Cash isn't talented, but it doesn't speak to me much. But him as an individual artist wouldn't be garbage for sure.
That being said, my mom always loved Johnny Cash and I do get some real good nostalgia listening to him. But as a whole, I don't love country.
I would put Rap and Techno as Garbage.
@@davidberlant5096 I was close, lol
Hey, put some respect for rap! Seriously man, I feel like most people don't respect the lyricism in rap. If you think about it, you have to be a little smart to even craft out a verse(like Eminem). So for that, rap should be in the great category
Stimulating topic. Let the results begin:
1. You can classify rock into two categories: Smart rock and dumb rock. To each according to their expressive (or, unfortunately, mercenary) needs.
2. That said, there is a lot of classical music that is not listenable, since it suffered from the same cheap copycat syndrome that degrades all art. It suffered from having to please the ultra-rich (Baroque and Classical), then out-glorifying one's own sensitivities over everyone else's (Romantic), then experimenting with mechanical, emotionless, tasteless fare (20th Century).
3. Rock is aimed at crowds (the larger the better), but less so with smart rock, which is more individual listener oriented.
4.. The future of music? That which is directed at the core individual that is identical in all humans (that which is stripped of all foolish pretense) (just one of the symptoms of Continued Universal Human Cluelessness*).
*as defined by Broader Survival
Classic country music is not bad. New country music. 👎🏻
As metal fan i think most of the metal is actual garbage. But there is really good music, obviously. For example, some modern bands like unprocessed or maybe monuments, olly steele solo project not bad too. Architects now pretty radio-friendly and yet still pretty metal, like them a lot. Myabe some classic dream theater. I personally like early linkin park. I like recent Bring me the horizon songs.
Im not sure if you count yngwie malmsteen as metal, but his music is great. Its not all i can name.
Anyway, metal is obviosly music not for everybody, but i dont think it deserves garbage tier. With no hard feelings to the author of the video.