Juhwan Cochfield is the main guy responsible for this, he bears the responsibility for filming and insulting Mr. Miu he basically set up a lynching atmosphere to get all of his friends to surround the guy, so Juhwan is partly to blame for his friend getting stabbed and the other kid getting unalived. Her son Isaac shouldn't have approached to Mr. Mue but wanted to be part of the mob.. he got too close because he wanted to partake in the taunting and yelling, so he put himself in the line of fire when it all went bad
Agreed. She can't undo her child's decisions no matter how much she wants to. I don't know if I'd have brought her as a witness though because defense should have been able to cross examine.
I would ask all the parents of the bullies, what they have done to raise such monsters .. a mob harassing a man, what for? For a vodeo to post online? Alcohol is no excuse for their behaviour. I have no sympathy for the bullies or their families. I do not find justification for Nicolae's post incident actions..but , seeing the video, I would say self defense. None from the bullies interfered to stop the harassment, but all play the victims
@@Elena-fe3os as shitty as the kids behaved, I think far less of you based on your comment and obvious disordered lack of empathy far exceeding that shown by the kids that day. Things usually aren’t black and white, and much more contributes to outcomes beyond parenting which we know for a fact, not an opinion, from ample research. However the behavior of a single incident of a bunch of kids while yes, intoxicated, simply does not imply outcome or personality or traits of them at all-it’s a single incident, and incident while they were all very young mind you. But just to humor you, even if it DID indicate their overall personality and outcomes, it still in no way indicates parenting on its face, because there are countless other factors such as environment, peer groups, adverse childhood experiences outside the home such as at school, if they ever were hospitalized, ever dealt with life threatening illnesses or long term hospitalization as a child, if a parent or close relative such as a sibling died, if they witnessed traumatic experiences such as someone breaking into their home, or for example me and my 2 young sons were harassed, threatened, and my son restrained by a mentally ill man after our car broke down-these are things that are outside of the control of simply “parenting”, and of course one of the biggest factors we are seeing depending on the child and specific genetics, IS genetics. So assuming that we live in some different reality where a single incident and behavior on one single day is somehow an indicator of you, random unqualified person on RUclips, or what “type” of people they are, it still in no way is an indicator of how they were raised based on this incident alone with no other information. No one likes bullying. However, there are so many things that can come into play, it can be a one off incident from a lapse in judgement, it could be just shitty behavior and character overall, which changes and improves as they age which happens with a MASSIVE percentage of young people, it in itself doesn’t mean they are just horrible evil in empathetic people. So I’m sorry, but the fact that you are commenting criticizing saying you have no empathy for the families of the victims, the mother of her dead child, because, what…. Because he called a guy some mean names? And then when the guy came back and approached them multiple times, and refused to leave despite being told to, he called him names some more? So because of that you think you have some morally superior place in life to morally condemn the victims AND the grieving mother? Regardless of the situation, anytime someone does, anytime someone’s mother is grieving the death of their young child who never even made it to adulthood, even when their child actually truly did do evil things like Dylan klabolds mother for example grieving her son who murdered many and then killed himself-it is sad. Most NORMAL humans with actual NORMAL amounts of empathy can empathize with a grieving mother regardless of the scenario that led up to it. So the fact that you’re simultaneous saying that you don’t condone Miu’s actions…. While also coming here to condemn insult and straight up shit on the loss this mother is dealing with as well as condemning and shitting on her and her dead child as humans, all because her child said some mean things to a guy on a single occasion…. That’s a massive red flag, and a huge sign that you yourself have an abnormal lacking of empathy, which directly correlates to morality. I’d take a kid who said mean shit and bullied a guy once who feels remorse or never did it again or some guy who has this weird detattched lacking of empathy and goes out of his way to shit on and disgrace the massive loss that a mother who wasn’t even anywhere near the incident is facing, or a guy who got mad when people called him names and went back to grab his knife, charged at the kids and grabbed them and then came back smiling with his knife stealthily brandished ready to instigate a physical altercation so he could stab kids and claim self defense as he daydreamed about on his Facebook, any day.
I get why they are saying self defense, he was pretty much surrounded by a big group of people who were yelling and being aggressive but...he wasn't injured and they had no weapons. The man just started lashing out with the knife and considering the damage he did to the poor guy whose bowels came out and that he stabbed the other guy in the heart...the man basically went into a murderous rage and it looks like he knew exactly how to use that knife
Bullshit, he was in fear for his life being punched and pushed down in the water. I would have been I fear for my life and there would be more than 1 dead person.
Lemme break down your statement here: -He was surrounded by a large group of aggressive young adult. And they started being aggressive and they started and escalated the situatin by laying their hands on him 1st. -He was injured the moment they layed their hands on him 1st. -Their age, group size and aggressiveness are their weapon. They "mobbed" him. ie. In analogy, have you ever seen what a mob of ants can do to a lizard? Doesn't end well to the lizard, and doesn't end well to a few of the ants either. And he wasn't waiting to find out if they do have weapons, his instinct to protect himself saved him. -He didn't just started to lash out, he has all the reasons to protect himself by all means. He then though his life was in danger, so employed every means he got to defend himself. -He didn't went on a full "murderous rampage". He was backing away, but he kept anyone coming in at bay. If he was on a "murderous rage" as you said he did, then we would all have seen him go after and chase anyone with his weapon (which he never did). -And yes, he knew how to use that knife. He knew well enough when and how to use it. And which is completely irrelevant to the case.
No. Mr. Mui charged their tubes, then started the fight by deciding to hit a young female . Then takes out a knife and stealthily stabs 5 people in < 30 seconds. Watch the video again.
My parents raised my brother and I to treat any physical altercation as a life or death situation. Walk or run away if possible and we were always instructed to evaluate and determine whether or not engagement is “worth it”. My father was adamant that we should always assume the opposition or aggressor is capable of causing severe harm and may be fatal. He said that we should always presume that the opposition has access to a weapon of some variety (knife, gun etc). We were repeatedly told that our hands can become a lethal weapon and practicing emotional discipline during an event like this can be reinforced in many social settings. A man calls your wife a rude and nasty name, it’s time to leave and refrain from instigating or escalating the situation. However, we were told that if we must defend ourselves and fleeing is not an option, fight to eliminate the threat and expect some degree of consequences. As humans, we could all do better to treat each other with respect and grace one another with the “benefit of the doubt”. I cannot confidently determine what my course of action would have been as either the older man or the young adults who received serious and unfortunately, fatal injuries. I surround myself with people who are of high moral character and share the same beliefs as I do when deciding to use physical force. I would like to believe that my friends would not engage with someone who is displaying the behavior of the elderly man nor push him to the ground and certainly not when water is a potential threat to someone’s safety. When you have experienced horrific violence and hostility, you are less motivated to participate as you have seen the consequences and gruesome outcomes. Perhaps this may serve as a reminder to others to avoid violent confrontation and prioritize the removal of your presence immediately. Horrible behavior like this occurs in bars and while driving a vehicle. It may be best to not even look over to the driver who committed a traffic violation and then make gestures towards them such as flicking them off. People are unpredictable during emotionally charging situations and the ability to avoid physically violent and confrontation may very well be the reason why the lives of yourself or others is preserved. It’s disappointing and disgusting to see the behavior of all parties involved. Treat each other with some decency and respect and only use physical force against a threat to harm or kill the enemy. The conflicting components of self defense and using the appropriate means necessary to stop a threat are what the jury will be responsible for determining. Nobody should have felt compelled to use a weapon against the adversary in self defense and the young adults should have refrained from instigating the violent response from the elderly man. The situation was one that could have ended with a peaceful resolution but there is no predicting when someone feels threatened and the willingness to escalate the conflict without any warning. So the next time you find yourself in a position where someone has insulted or enraged you, attempt to leave the situation without any further comments or display of a physical intimidation. My opinion on the matter is really not of any merit or value. It is ultimately up to the interpretation of the jury whether or not the appropriate amount of force was justified. I was not present during the incident and I am only able to collect the evidence that the video provides. There are many speculations about how the elderly man had struck a woman and that resulted in the hostility from the group of young men. Even if it is true, I believe that neither myself or peers would have began to assault a man who appears to be “odd” or certainly unpredictable. Someone typically has the urge to stroke their ego and verbally escalate to a point where they may be perceived as a threat. I cannot determine whether or not I would have felt obligated to use such lethal force in a similar situation because I was not the man who was shoved down and outnumbered in the circumstances that fists were the tool of choice. I personally think I would have restrained myself and began to quickly separate myself from the group. It appeared to be prematurely desperate to decide the knife was required but I am also a healthy and very physically capable man who has confidence in my ability to defend myself if necessary. I definitely think that the alcohol and drug use is a contributing factor in the behavior of the individuals. Essentially, I prefer to avoid these situations entirely and continue to enjoy the company of people who do not act instinctively and also appreciate the value of thinking before they act. They have the ability to rapidly make decisions based on the potential risks and benefits of their actions. I think this ideology as it pertains to fighting may be of interest to others. You may disagree with my perspective but there is a reason why highly trained military combatants (Jocko) have advocated for the adoption of such principles. Nobody is a winner in this situation. Life was lost and I presume that many people will regret their decisions and reflect on their impact repeatedly.
So many great points to remember. Unfortunately alcohol gets in the way of all logic. I used to be a gigging musician in bars and clubs in my 20s. I was one of 4 or 5 sober people in a bar or club 4 nights a week. The first set was usually peaceful. The 3rd set which was more than half way through the night is when the wheels fell off the wagon. I learned very early on to tiptoe out the back door as soon as things started brewing and I got excellent at knowing when to be long gone fairly quickly. A friend asked me once if we ever had problems with getting heckled and I said no. He asked why. I said it’s really basic. They’re drunk and I’m sober.
I taught my boys to be respectful of others especially ones you don't know because they could be crazy. I always told them you have to watch the loud ones but be afraid and keep your distance from the ones that don't speak.
@@Truelib99Hobbes Ah yes, because children don't have free will... You could be the greatest parent of all time and still have your children make stupid choices. That's life.
crap mother, this would be prevented if they parented their sons properly to respect others and not gang up on people and attack them, this trial was a farse that man defended himself, i dont care if they were kids or not actions cause reactions period
@@simplex7096 I assume you haven't had any children of your own to come to this kind of comment. The action of stabbing someone who didn't have any weapons isn't called Self-defense. The kids had their part in this tragedy, they weren't completely innocent by causing a scene as accusing Nicolai with name; however, it shouldn't have costed their life for it.
You failed your son. If he did this after 18, then is on him. Issaac brought this to himself. He take the life of old man. Things went wrong due to Issaac. You all need to apologize and quit the victim game. Im outside view. Just quit it!!!!! STOP THE BULLY!!!++
Self defence 100%. Those kids were ruthless and brutal in their behaviour.. He was searching for a phone. I’d do the same searching for rocks.. I carry a pocket knife when outdoors. It’s very sad he could have been autistic & if he was inappropriate move on. No excuse for how they acted
He wasn't autistic. He was a veteran in the Romanian military before he immigrated to U.S. His BFF in the red vest, veteran Cuban military, both communist countries, both trained to be violent. Nobody was hurting him, just his feelings. Just a little advice....don't try this with your knife...just walk away. It's almost always an option, and clearly was here. ✌
@@teresaweaver1012ah... that explains everything. He could have walked away but looked like he wanted a fight...he knew he was armed and was a skilled killer. He knew the damage he could do and wanted to take them on. Those kids didn't have a chance. Typical of our immigration policy... this country is a dumping ground for all the dregs. 😮
@@cb664 Both these men have every right to be here, having immigrated from oppressed countries, and most likely "came in the legal way". We have U.S. born men and women trained and skilled in warfare walking our streets every day and sometimes they over step the law as well. IMO, this type men have the same authoritarian narcissist problems many conservative folks exhibit. It's a problem. An older gentleman, retired cop, in Florida was acquitted of shooting and killing a young unarmed men for throwing popcorn. All this happened in front of the young wife as they were having a "date night". My point, not an immigration problem, just another pissed off authoritarian doing carnage because he didn't get his way. Let's hope justice is served here and not overlooked by a conservative judge. Unfortunately, the courts are stacked with them... by design, compliments of the GOP. Peace
Those were her son's hands around the defendant's neck. He had an alcohol concentration nearly THREE TIMES the legal limit for driving, plus illegal marijuana. So much for "helpless child".
Nice pictures of this kid but the image that keeps playing in my head is how with all his might he launched himself at Nick to totally take him out. 13 against 1. Bunch of Bullies
@@kimwhatmatters4085 ,no, the arrogant bunch of drunk misfits should have been taught to respect elders, and not gang up on an elder. The arrogant kid f___ed around and found out....hard lessons learned by the rest of that arrogant pack....
Every parent needs to talk to their kids about not being a bully. You never know who you will encounter. If parent don't teach their kids, the world might have to
nobody here was a bully besides the giant oaf with a carving knife eager to murder kids - parents simply need to teach their kids when to run away. I could have told you this muir character was a danger as soon as he approached them in the video.
Sad part is, her son was probably not more involved than being part of that group. There was this other guy, who filmed it all, who initiated it all, he was the one screaming the loudest, calling the man child molester and being all provocative. When young and part of a group it's important making sure your kid is in a good group of people..
He didn't do such thing! Don't victim blame. It's one thing stabbing one person in self defense, but going after 5 or 6 others isn't and is just plain out murder. Her child had nothing to do with it.
Prosecutor played the sympathy card. Get the grieving mama up there showing he baby pictures. Well, he wasn’t a baby. He was acting like a wild animal. He was choking the man. Sorry he’s dead. He was acting as a thug. Stupid game.
@@cynthiadouglas3970 you never drank alcohol and did something stupid? Whether or not the guy is guilty show some respect for a family that lost their young son. Everyone in the country is going to be talking about her baby, she should be allowed to say her piece. His life shouldnt be defined by one bad mistake to be judged harshly by strangers
Why? Why put a grieving mother on the stand? She wasn’t there. She can’t testify to anything that happened on the river that day. Cruel decision on the prosecution’s part to manipulate the jury.
Miu done over dirty on this one. Shocking trial, especially the judge. He made numerous remarks that seemed very off, like when he seemed to say you will find him guilty of and then went through the counts. I've never seen that before.
She wanted to be there I will tell you that you obviously either one you haven't had children are two you have no clue what it's like to lose the child I do she wanted to be there to make sure that the jewelry seen the hell that they are going through That's why she's there not to manipulate the jurors this man is a habituate liar if he had not lied told the truth from finished to end he would be probably would have had a lesser charge or not guilty but that is what f***** him his lies and his damn deceit if he wasn't guilty why the hell did he have the knife they pulled my pants down there was so many things in there I was confused I had to go over twice to make sure my brain was hearing what the hell was coming out of this crazy person's mouth oh I'm quite sure his wife will probably file for divorce immediately
Title of this video says: "Victim's mother" ... but based on the brief summaries of the case I read and saw, she is not a mother of the victim. It was her son who was the attacker in the situation and met his unfortunate end as a consequence of the actual victim defending himself. Am I wrong?
WHY the H is this woman on the stand if she was NOT a witness to the attack and retaliation ???? The Judge should not allow this EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL = Not a FAIR TRIAL IMO 😮
It’s meant to illicit a strong emotional response of sympathy for the deceased and anger towards the defendant from the jury. Plain and simple it’s meant to pull at the heartstrings.
A really sad case. Ultimately if this guy hadn’t been brought up thinking he was invincible and could mess with people to impress his friends, this wouldn’t have occurred.
She looks so defeated in the beginning when the guy asks her so now that you're a stay at home mom, and she has this defeated nod and says yeah ..but while her son Isaac I'm sure was a great guy, why didn't he try to stop the lynchmob mentality that Juhwan Cochfield had started, because it was Juhwan who began the filming and the taunting of Nikolai, and if Isaac was such a great young man, he could have stopped the mob. Or not approached Nikolai but maybe he wanted to be part of this big crew that was taunting and surrounding another person so he put himself in the line of fire it's too bad what happened but Isaac shouldn't have been so close
@@alancenne9537Isaac was about 3 times the legal limit alcohol in his system. Drunk as a skunk! Couple that with being a teenager, in a mob setting, there would be no good decisions that were going to be made by him.
Her kid got together in a drunken pack and falsely accused a man of wanting to r*pe little girls. Their accusations got more people to come over and start abusing the man they falsely accused. I have no sympathy for bullies. I have no sympathy for the parents of bullies who could not impart upon their children respect for others, and caution with strangers. My father always taught me never to start a fight because you don't know where the other man will try to end it. Perhaps it's because he didn't grow up in the gilded west where you could be safeguarded from the violence of this world. But he taught me about the world he knew. And the world he knew is the reality for everyone except the pampered few.
The old psychopath told them he was "looking for little girls", probably sarcastically because he was mad his friend had sensibly told him to stay away from the young people in order to avoid giving the wrong impression. And as for starting the fight, the old psychopath started the fight when, one, he touched the first group's property and refused to leave, and two, initiated violence when he punched a woman who was telling him to leave.
Where were the adults while the children were supplied with alcohol ??? Who bought them the alcohol ?? maybe, just maybe if they were not drinking none of this would have transpired. ???? The older man was looking for his friends phone. what a mess., alcohol brings out the assholes.
Whoever got them alcohol should also be charged. Judging by the witnesses and "victims" I see about 12 ppl minimum who should be brought up on charges.
As a mom I can get her pain , it should be the worst pain ever , but honestly the kid was bullying and the old guy made a stupid decision to stabbing them , so sad what alcohol and weed can make :(
Absolutely despicable that the prosecution brought this woman up to testify. Just no reason for it other than to try to get the jury to see a clearly grieving mother, get sympathy, and hope they convict Miu. She would have nothing to add to the actual allegations since she wasn't even there. If she were to be called at all, it should be during sentencing.
Unfortunately...there's been a DEATH of a 17 year old boy. She's strong. If U was her I'd hope I could do exactly the same thing...for my son's JUSTICE!!
This whole thing stinks especially the video itself know my generation one of them probably did start it we have no video of it, two 5 on 1 is gonna have a big chance of there being a force multiplier involved, in my opinion Issac and his friends played stupid games and won stupid prizes
Of course. She shouldn’t even be testifying at this stage. For sentencing, sure. But what does mother of the year know about what her little gremlin got up to? What good would it do to give her more opportunity to cry in front of the jury?
5 football players (17yo) incites an angry mob﹠weren’t gonna stop until they had what they wanted, video for social media clout. the defendant Nicolae Miu (54) a triple bypass surgery patient downstream to look for a lost phone, they tell ‘pedophile’ he doesn’t even hear them, doesn’t react, so. they take his snorkel. Then when the crowd of adults draws near, they say, “We have evidence on video that he is a pedo’ No little kids were on the river that day, besides these teens (17) it was all adults. that is a fact that both sides swore, all had to admit this on the stand. -they wanted to kill this defendant, who doesn’t want to get rid of that type of person: but it wasn’t true at all-the angry mob going on the teens (17) inciting them, 13 people surrounding defendant, they punch him, knock him in the water then pushes him under water
@@SandraGarcia-vz1frIsaac was still a kid, growing and learning. In life, we ALL deal with extremely unpleasant human beings. The answer is NOT to take each life.
@@perenoel657 Yes restrain. His hands went upward because of Miu thrusting a knife into his heart. That was explained by the Medical Examiner and the DA. Some young teenagers verbally harass this man and he escalates to a mass murder situation. The instincts of these teens were absolutely correct. This man was very disturbed. I don't want to live in a country where you get stabbed for putting your hand on someone's shoulder, or even pushing them. You sound like a "wooman" hater and a Stand Your Ground nutcase. You place your hateful comment on a video of Isaac's mom grieving for her son. Shame on you. RIP Isaac.
@@perenoel657 Gentle push? From the same man that disemboweled A J Martin with a knife wound over a foot long? Stabbed a young woman in the abdomen in such a sneaky way she didn't even see the knife? Crazy is as crazy does. The fans of Mr. Miu are fascinating people. Who sticks around when teens are yelling go go away? who hits a woman? Whoever you are, you aren't the father or mother of a murdered child.
Please sh$$ up! How do you know he was taunting him? I believe he was raised right. He was 17 with his own bussiness. And going to college. Not all of them were taunting him. And if he was he didn’t deserve to be murdered. You sound like an angry 12 year old.
thanks for posting this...I agree a sympathy witness. Mob of bullies, I am 68 and I would of fought for my life, for I fear for the man 10 years younger than me as he was being attack by a pack of wolves
@@gigia41 The apple river is 77.5 miles long but you're saying this guy had no other place to stand in besides right in front of this group?. Use your brain for once
It is called Spark of life testimony, and it is only permitted in one state, which is Minnesota. This is Wisconsin. Her testimony should not have been permitted in the trial phase. Grounds for appeal right there. Hope they actually appeal for him!
It's a tragic ending to something that could have been avoided. Lesson #1: don't allow your teens to use alcohol and drugs until they are legally allowed to. Lesson #2: teach them to respect other people and not bully. It's always sad when someone dies, but everyone needs to make better choices. Bad behavior and alcohol is no excuse. No mother wants to go through this, but people die every single day when they abuse substances and hang out in groups. I am sorry for their loss of Isaac, but in this type of situation, I would have defended myself from the mob as well and if he went for my throat like he did to Mr. Miu, I cannot say that I would have allowed him to choke me if I was carrying.
Should of taught her son not to bully Should of watched his friends more closely You can tell those kids were nothing but trouble Drinking and smoking pot all underage wow Kids should of all make better choices in life and helped this guy find his cell phone Instead of being assholes to this man
Just know all the mothers who are watching this are here for you. We couldn't imagine your pain 😢. May your son rest in peace, and may you walk together again in paradise. ❤
@@sarahs1849 I've got zero compassion for kids that act like vicious animals toward their elders. Like ZERO. My daughters would've helped this man look for his phone, not treated him with the zero respect while recording him so they could upload it to social media. FFS.
@@gigia41 Listen, Gina, my greatest advice to you is to have some empathy, even for people you may not agree with. We are all human. You have a child. What if someone stabbed your daughter to death? No matter what she said or did prior to being stabbed...if you stand by that original comment then fine, so be it, but try to have a heart. That's someone's child.
I think a lot of teens out there have good parents and raised them right but like a lot of teens out there they are foolish. They act differently when parents aren't there to see. I think we have all done stupid things as a teen. However, I do think the children should be held accountable just like the man.
@@koleevins6114 He had the choice to leave. Instead he committed one murder and almost committed mass murder. He also made the brilliant move of hitting a woman. Did not show an ounce of self reflection. She had her friends around her, but she could also have had her boyfriend or husband watching. In fact, Dante came over there to defend her, and he wasn't her boyfriend. He took a lot of stupid chances because some young teens verbally harassed him. If he was smart he would have made a police report of the incident, and kept his knife out of it. The man was just very disturbed. He has some kind of personality disorder where he can't walk away.
@@Liz-dl4wx maybe there should be a charge for calling him a pedophile. As far as i know, there isn't such a charge. Maybe that should be a hate crime.
I see, the family has money. That's why this man is charged. Is she seriously not self aware enough to know that if she had taught her son to treat people with basic human dignity her son would still be alive. So sad
Yall don't need to be putting all the blame on the parents. The kid's didn't have a weapon. They were bullying, yes. The man adult was told to leave and left and then came back. That is when it went bad wrong. The kids never had a weapon.
@@tracyparker550 you don't need a weapon to kill someone when it's a large group vs one old man with a heart condition. The old man didn't have a weapon, everyone I know has a small short pocket knife. It's a common place tool . Anything can become a weapon if your life is threatened, including the sharp rocks they threw the man down on or the water they could have drowned him in. It's not all on the parents but it's not a the old man either.
It's unfortunate that her son decided to drink knowing he was a minor. It's unfortunate he decided to put his hands around an old mans neck in an attempt to choke and kill him. His own actions led him to his death. His choice of "friends" was also one to begin with. No winners here. It's unfortunate that his stupidity put his mother and family in this situation! He would have more than likely been the one sittingin the defense table and not Nic! #FREENICMIU
This lady is so strong. I know she kept thinking to herself this is killing my soul but I have to try and keep it together so my son can get the justice he deserves. Mam may God bless you!!
@@jedswildpulls7121The knife guy was the aggressor!! He charged their tubes, wouldn't leave them alone and punched a young girl in the face, so they pushed him in the water. Then he attacked them with knives.
@@JudySnyder-dv5ld I was raised right and at that age I had NEVER verbally disrespected any adult even once, let alone shouting highly inflammatory vile lies and accusations along with a mob of 5 other 'friends'. If you find that behavior acceptable, you need serious 'help'.
@@kate1830 Never ASSume. It makes it so easy to be wrong by doing that. You're wrong saying I'm 'angry' at a stranger. I'm not 'angry'. It's plainly clear that if you had 100 Mr Miu's on that river with other NORMAL ppl in that 1/2 mile stretch, you'd have ZERO problems YET if you had 100 drunk disrespectful teens & drunk airhead women that don't know how to act like an adult, mixed with NORMAL ppl, you'd have many problems. The 'mother' had a son that had NO business attacking a 52 year old man who was minding his own business until the teens started sh*t with him. Mother should be ashamed of how her son disrespected and attacked Miu, along with the teen's dangerous mob.
Mr Miu was bullied on that fateful day on the Apple River.....and he's being bullied AGAIN in the courtroom! This was a complete miscarriage of justice and it should be appealed!
I hate how much I agree with your comment. The way all those punks were assaulting him, and for some reason, they all felt the need to point their fingers at him and then for the prosecution to ask them to identify the defendant by pointing their finger. Just so sick.
@@mandy7131 He punched a woman in the face and one of the dudes pushed him down after then he pulled a knife. I'm sure if he pulled the knife and gave that kid a second that they would all of backed off. He'd still be charged with assaulting a minor, as well as most courts really frown upon hitting women.
@@justing9902 Rhyley and Madi inserted themselves into the situation and escalated it by putting their hands on Mui's chest and arms pushing him and yelling in his face. There isn't any objective evidence that he ever punched Madi. No one yells he hit a woman until after Mui was punched, slapped, and pushed down into the river twice. Rhyley and 2 of the drunk and high teens pushed Mui down into the river.
I've heard the word "hyenas" thrown around a lot watching videos of this case. But the only hyenas I've seen are these prosecutors using this woman's grief in an attempt to advance their careers.
Sucks, his friends were drinking underage and bullying and harrassing people that didnt have any concern for them. His friends antagonized and harrassed and cahsed this. Being bullies
@@DeagleGamesTV there's no duty to retreat. You don't have to leave when someone is harrassing you and ganging up on. You can stand up for yourself and protect yourself against multiple attackers.
@@nickanderson7693 While there isn't an express, codified statutory "duty to retreat" in Wisconsin, as a practical matter you are in fact wrong; the state does NOT have a "Stand Your Ground" law, and Wisconsin juries will absolutely be instructed to consider a failure to retreat when evaluating the proprietary of the use of force by a defendant in a given situation.
This is why you teach your children to not mess with other people be respectful and don't be a bully or poke at people cuz your friends are recording and laughing none of us know what a person is capable of until its to late. Teach your children they are not invincible. Treat others how you want to be treated bottom line this would not have happened if they left that man alone.
The killer was a psycho monster. He was a Romanian thug, probably a gypsy, spoiling for a fight. He could have walked away but clearly wanted a street fight. He knew they were unarmed and young but wanted to cut people.
Someone getting killed while they're blackout drunk and trying to protect their friends isn't... Funny or doesn't make them evil. It's just... Fucked. The kid was wasted, I guarantee if he was sober he would've acted different. He wasn't a bad kid but anyone can do anything when they're blackout drunk. It's just... Sad
His friend Jawahn should be charged for instigating the situation and egging on his friend during the assault while recording. Feel like things would have been different if Jawah wasnt there…
@@kaitlynshafer6553he was surrounded by multiple drunk teens and was hit over and over and tossed into the water face down. I’m not agreeing he should have killed someone, but that situation for him wasn’t easy. They kept coming at him and wouldn’t leave him alone. We see everyday killings start like that with a bigger group against one person. What was he supposed to do or think?
@@kaitlynshafer6553 it’s a perfectly reasonable comment. She didn’t witness anything of value to determine guilt. This kind of testimony is more appropriate at sentencing, after a defendant has been found guilty.
I would bet anything that after he hit the women, if someone had punched him one time (in self defense) and had he fallen and hit his head on a rock ( leading to his death), then that person would be in jail for murder. Yet he may not serve jail time after lurking around teens and maming 5-6 of them. This man ( supposedly frail and old) walked up stream in water a long distance ( walking in water is hard and upstream is even harder), then ran up and lunged at kids, hit one, stabbed 5-6, killed 1, and then walked back to his group hundreds of feet away, got dressed, then tried to leave, clean the knife in water while walking back, toss the knife in the trail, then lie to cops (and his friends) and pretend he knew nothing about the incident. No frail old man does that. 1) 54 is middle aged and NOT old, 2) the cardiopulmonary endurance it takes to do all of that is huge and he did it just fine. So they can stop with the frail old man line. The teens had a suspicion about him being unsafe and they were right because of what happened which was 80% his fault. As the adult he should have known better. This man tried to leave the scene of a Friday the 13th movie. Defense needs to call a medical professional to testify as the fitness it takes to do all of this.
This was so hard to watch. Mrs Hernandez's pain is unmeasurable. It took every ounce of her being to hold it together and to not break down sobbing. As hard as it is to watch, its very important to for the jury to humanize the victim.
That is completely incorrect. Spark of life testimony is not acceptable in Wisconsin or any other state but Minnesota. This mother should not have been on the stand. But the worst part is, they did not allow the defendants, twin brother to humanize Miu. An absolutely disgusting sham of a trial this was.
Wow, show her pictures so she could cry and make a scene so the jury works in their favor...... People just raise your kids right.... these we'rent innocent babies... they were young adults mobbing on a man and that man who lost control commited homicide.......
Your son did the wrong thing by joining a mob and assaulting someone he had no reason to assault. That person defended themself. This is what happens when you fail to raise properly. Thats all you guys.
Why did she let him drink so much and behave that way? His friends were also bad seeds. Parents need to make sure their kids are hanging around the right crowd.
The old psychopath left his group to walk over and harass others, touching their belongings and refusing to leave. He is the harasser. There is something wrong with you
@@OfficialCharles He did not try to leave. He punched a woman, then was knocked down by her friends. Even then he had a clear path to leave, yet chose to stay and disembowel people, choosing as his FIRST disembowelment victim a 110 lb unarmed girl
@@mbb-- the man was totally wrong in stabbing. Goes without saying. But the kids are least from the video. Crowding around him pushing screaming yelling. That percolated the situation. Still no excuse and unreasonable force to produce a knife and stab people innocent or not. But my question still stands about the kids and the way they were harassing the guy en masse at least from the video .
This was not a random act of violence. This woman was more concerned about the sunscreen on his ears than raising a barking animal that got his kicks bullying and defaming others. Take a note on how not to raise children.
That was the most gut wrenching thing I have ever seen. I have a son and I can't even imagine this happening :( Lord please wrap your arms around this mother
This poor mother will have to watch her son’s irresponsible friends move on with their lives knowing that because 4-6 of them got mean and drunk and thought they could record/manufacture a viral incident at the expense of an innocent man inquiring about a lost phone. They were looking to stage a viral video to post on their social media platforms and get lots of likes and whatever else comes with that. Many of the kids/young adults described as victims have prior history(arrests) with the police. I don’t know that the defendant has a criminal history we’ll hear if he does or doesn’t. First degree murder charge is a big mistake (over charge, harder to prove). Most all of the prosecutor’s witnesses were drunk and high and have criminal history and have already been caught lying by defense attorneys. Alcohol-stupidity-aggression is a scary thing to be in the presence of, ask any police officer, they’ll tell you that young and dumb is the stuff of nightmares.
this was such a cheap shot on the prosecutor, there was no reason to make that poor mother sit there and cry just for the dramatic benefit in front of the jury. My heart just breaks for her.
I hope Isaac's friends stay in touch with his mom. You could tell how much his friends loved Isaac by their reaction when Isaac was hurt, and they knew it was bad. The one friend said "NO!! ISAAC!!! THIS CAN'T BE REAL!!". Isaac's mom's love of her son will never end, and Isaac's friends will never forget him. Mom will need to know, and be reminded, that Isaac lived on this earth, that he was loved and he will always be missed, because he touched so many people in his few years he had here. Of course it would be so great if Isaac recovered and were still here, but it speaks to how special he was and to see the difference. he made in so many people's lives in such a short time. That is the biggest tragedy, is because of this, what is the world losing out on?? What differences could he have made to the world? I have a feeling his family will move forward in this life to make a difference in his name. RIP young man, the world knew you.
As a mom to a 15 year old boy. I can sympathize however, facts are facts. There is no win in this unfortunate situation. Hopefully just lessons learned for everyone. As parents, for our children, as humans, hopefully we can all learn something from this and do better…
Sad situation all around, I feel for this woman who tried a raise a good son which I am sure she did. One momentary lapse in judgement is all it takes kids. Dont fuck with people and youll likely live a long and happy life.
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This should never have happened, such a tragedy
@@homer5103 That’s an evil thing to say!
Juhwan Cochfield is the main guy responsible for this, he bears the responsibility for filming and insulting Mr. Miu he basically set up a lynching atmosphere to get all of his friends to surround the guy, so Juhwan is partly to blame for his friend getting stabbed and the other kid getting unalived.
Her son Isaac shouldn't have approached to Mr. Mue but wanted to be part of the mob.. he got too close because he wanted to partake in the taunting and yelling, so he put himself in the line of fire when it all went bad
@@pamrichardson4130 why? It’s just the truth
Yeah. Everyone involved should have just minded their own business.
Typical! Blame everyone except the murderer! He could have been the adult and walked away! Thankfully, Mr Cockfield did record this tragic incident
There are no winners here, everyone is going to lose.
Everyone already has
This is the most truthful comment I’ve read on this case.
Yep. Even if the defendant is acquitted, his life is destroyed.
These other idiots are and will experience negative consequences for their actions.
@@innocentbystander8038 he isn’t getting acquitted, his best case scenario is a lesser homicide charge.
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They called her to the stand for "sympathy" points. Disgusting.
@@MagicFingers86 your comment is disgusting. Sympathy points??? Her son was killed!!!
@@alicemillar5773 EXACTLY! & they still felt the need to bring her up there, like she hasn't been thru fuckin' enough already.
@@MagicFingers86So you're saying her son wouldn't want justice ?
The defense did the right thing and not ask any questions of this mother. No words can bring him back. What a tragedy 😢
-so heartbreaking ...-
Agreed. She can't undo her child's decisions no matter how much she wants to. I don't know if I'd have brought her as a witness though because defense should have been able to cross examine.
Well, she wasn't there to witness anything so she had nothing to add. She should never have been on the stand
I would ask all the parents of the bullies, what they have done to raise such monsters .. a mob harassing a man, what for? For a vodeo to post online? Alcohol is no excuse for their behaviour. I have no sympathy for the bullies or their families.
I do not find justification for Nicolae's post incident actions..but , seeing the video, I would say self defense. None from the bullies interfered to stop the harassment, but all play the victims
@@Elena-fe3os as shitty as the kids behaved, I think far less of you based on your comment and obvious disordered lack of empathy far exceeding that shown by the kids that day.
Things usually aren’t black and white, and much more contributes to outcomes beyond parenting which we know for a fact, not an opinion, from ample research.
However the behavior of a single incident of a bunch of kids while yes, intoxicated, simply does not imply outcome or personality or traits of them at all-it’s a single incident, and incident while they were all very young mind you. But just to humor you, even if it DID indicate their overall personality and outcomes, it still in no way indicates parenting on its face, because there are countless other factors such as environment, peer groups, adverse childhood experiences outside the home such as at school, if they ever were hospitalized, ever dealt with life threatening illnesses or long term hospitalization as a child, if a parent or close relative such as a sibling died, if they witnessed traumatic experiences such as someone breaking into their home, or for example me and my 2 young sons were harassed, threatened, and my son restrained by a mentally ill man after our car broke down-these are things that are outside of the control of simply “parenting”, and of course one of the biggest factors we are seeing depending on the child and specific genetics, IS genetics.
So assuming that we live in some different reality where a single incident and behavior on one single day is somehow an indicator of you, random unqualified person on RUclips, or what “type” of people they are, it still in no way is an indicator of how they were raised based on this incident alone with no other information.
No one likes bullying. However, there are so many things that can come into play, it can be a one off incident from a lapse in judgement, it could be just shitty behavior and character overall, which changes and improves as they age which happens with a MASSIVE percentage of young people, it in itself doesn’t mean they are just horrible evil in empathetic people.
So I’m sorry, but the fact that you are commenting criticizing saying you have no empathy for the families of the victims, the mother of her dead child, because, what…. Because he called a guy some mean names? And then when the guy came back and approached them multiple times, and refused to leave despite being told to, he called him names some more?
So because of that you think you have some morally superior place in life to morally condemn the victims AND the grieving mother?
Regardless of the situation, anytime someone does, anytime someone’s mother is grieving the death of their young child who never even made it to adulthood, even when their child actually truly did do evil things like Dylan klabolds mother for example grieving her son who murdered many and then killed himself-it is sad. Most NORMAL humans with actual NORMAL amounts of empathy can empathize with a grieving mother regardless of the scenario that led up to it.
So the fact that you’re simultaneous saying that you don’t condone Miu’s actions…. While also coming here to condemn insult and straight up shit on the loss this mother is dealing with as well as condemning and shitting on her and her dead child as humans, all because her child said some mean things to a guy on a single occasion…. That’s a massive red flag, and a huge sign that you yourself have an abnormal lacking of empathy, which directly correlates to morality.
I’d take a kid who said mean shit and bullied a guy once who feels remorse or never did it again or some guy who has this weird detattched lacking of empathy and goes out of his way to shit on and disgrace the massive loss that a mother who wasn’t even anywhere near the incident is facing, or a guy who got mad when people called him names and went back to grab his knife, charged at the kids and grabbed them and then came back smiling with his knife stealthily brandished ready to instigate a physical altercation so he could stab kids and claim self defense as he daydreamed about on his Facebook, any day.
Terrible situation all around.
I get why they are saying self defense, he was pretty much surrounded by a big group of people who were yelling and being aggressive but...he wasn't injured and they had no weapons. The man just started lashing out with the knife and considering the damage he did to the poor guy whose bowels came out and that he stabbed the other guy in the heart...the man basically went into a murderous rage and it looks like he knew exactly how to use that knife
Bullshit, he was in fear for his life being punched and pushed down in the water. I would have been I fear for my life and there would be more than 1 dead person.
Lemme break down your statement here:
-He was surrounded by a large group of aggressive young adult. And they started being aggressive and they started and escalated the situatin by laying their hands on him 1st.
-He was injured the moment they layed their hands on him 1st.
-Their age, group size and aggressiveness are their weapon. They "mobbed" him. ie. In analogy, have you ever seen what a mob of ants can do to a lizard? Doesn't end well to the lizard, and doesn't end well to a few of the ants either. And he wasn't waiting to find out if they do have weapons, his instinct to protect himself saved him.
-He didn't just started to lash out, he has all the reasons to protect himself by all means. He then though his life was in danger, so employed every means he got to defend himself.
-He didn't went on a full "murderous rampage". He was backing away, but he kept anyone coming in at bay. If he was on a "murderous rage" as you said he did, then we would all have seen him go after and chase anyone with his weapon (which he never did).
-And yes, he knew how to use that knife. He knew well enough when and how to use it. And which is completely irrelevant to the case.
No. Mr. Mui charged their tubes, then started the fight by deciding to hit a young female . Then takes out a knife and stealthily stabs 5 people in < 30 seconds. Watch the video again.
I watched it and you are crazy it the opposite of what you say, get some glasses and a hearing aid and a brain.@@tansysilva8594
@@tansysilva8594😂 5:10 😢🎉😅😅
I lost my son at age 26. It is devastating and heartbreaking every day. I feel so bad for her and all of the trolls saying such nasty things
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It won't change what her son and his cohorts did but continue on with your sorrow
@@jajajajajajajajaja867Your parents failed you.
I am so sorry for your loss! God Bless you . . . 💔💪🙏🏻
Prayers too u and all the mothers whom lost children to acts of violence 🙏🤍
My parents raised my brother and I to treat any physical altercation as a life or death situation. Walk or run away if possible and we were always instructed to evaluate and determine whether or not engagement is “worth it”. My father was adamant that we should always assume the opposition or aggressor is capable of causing severe harm and may be fatal. He said that we should always presume that the opposition has access to a weapon of some variety (knife, gun etc). We were repeatedly told that our hands can become a lethal weapon and practicing emotional discipline during an event like this can be reinforced in many social settings. A man calls your wife a rude and nasty name, it’s time to leave and refrain from instigating or escalating the situation. However, we were told that if we must defend ourselves and fleeing is not an option, fight to eliminate the threat and expect some degree of consequences. As humans, we could all do better to treat each other with respect and grace one another with the “benefit of the doubt”. I cannot confidently determine what my course of action would have been as either the older man or the young adults who received serious and unfortunately, fatal injuries. I surround myself with people who are of high moral character and share the same beliefs as I do when deciding to use physical force. I would like to believe that my friends would not engage with someone who is displaying the behavior of the elderly man nor push him to the ground and certainly not when water is a potential threat to someone’s safety. When you have experienced horrific violence and hostility, you are less motivated to participate as you have seen the consequences and gruesome outcomes. Perhaps this may serve as a reminder to others to avoid violent confrontation and prioritize the removal of your presence immediately. Horrible behavior like this occurs in bars and while driving a vehicle. It may be best to not even look over to the driver who committed a traffic violation and then make gestures towards them such as flicking them off. People are unpredictable during emotionally charging situations and the ability to avoid physically violent and confrontation may very well be the reason why the lives of yourself or others is preserved. It’s disappointing and disgusting to see the behavior of all parties involved. Treat each other with some decency and respect and only use physical force against a threat to harm or kill the enemy. The conflicting components of self defense and using the appropriate means necessary to stop a threat are what the jury will be responsible for determining. Nobody should have felt compelled to use a weapon against the adversary in self defense and the young adults should have refrained from instigating the violent response from the elderly man. The situation was one that could have ended with a peaceful resolution but there is no predicting when someone feels threatened and the willingness to escalate the conflict without any warning. So the next time you find yourself in a position where someone has insulted or enraged you, attempt to leave the situation without any further comments or display of a physical intimidation. My opinion on the matter is really not of any merit or value. It is ultimately up to the interpretation of the jury whether or not the appropriate amount of force was justified. I was not present during the incident and I am only able to collect the evidence that the video provides. There are many speculations about how the elderly man had struck a woman and that resulted in the hostility from the group of young men. Even if it is true, I believe that neither myself or peers would have began to assault a man who appears to be “odd” or certainly unpredictable. Someone typically has the urge to stroke their ego and verbally escalate to a point where they may be perceived as a threat. I cannot determine whether or not I would have felt obligated to use such lethal force in a similar situation because I was not the man who was shoved down and outnumbered in the circumstances that fists were the tool of choice. I personally think I would have restrained myself and began to quickly separate myself from the group. It appeared to be prematurely desperate to decide the knife was required but I am also a healthy and very physically capable man who has confidence in my ability to defend myself if necessary. I definitely think that the alcohol and drug use is a contributing factor in the behavior of the individuals. Essentially, I prefer to avoid these situations entirely and continue to enjoy the company of people who do not act instinctively and also appreciate the value of thinking before they act. They have the ability to rapidly make decisions based on the potential risks and benefits of their actions. I think this ideology as it pertains to fighting may be of interest to others. You may disagree with my perspective but there is a reason why highly trained military combatants (Jocko) have advocated for the adoption of such principles. Nobody is a winner in this situation. Life was lost and I presume that many people will regret their decisions and reflect on their impact repeatedly.
Underrated comment. I wish more people would read what you wrote and could understand it.
Well said
Wow great comment EVERYONE should read this and think about a time when your emotions or pride got the best of you and how badly it could've ended
So many great points to remember. Unfortunately alcohol gets in the way of all logic. I used to be a gigging musician in bars and clubs in my 20s. I was one of 4 or 5 sober people in a bar or club 4 nights a week. The first set was usually peaceful. The 3rd set which was more than half way through the night is when the wheels fell off the wagon. I learned very early on to tiptoe out the back door as soon as things started brewing and I got excellent at knowing when to be long gone fairly quickly. A friend asked me once if we ever had problems with getting heckled and I said no. He asked why. I said it’s really basic. They’re drunk and I’m sober.
Nobody reading all thar shit
I taught my boys to be respectful of others especially ones you don't know because they could be crazy. I always told them you have to watch the loud ones but be afraid and keep your distance from the ones that don't speak.
just to add on to your comment. Snorkling for an iphone is a great cover for a more sinister motive. iykyk
@@kellidanielle3688 Oh please, so you're allowed to harass and create a public disturbance if you THINK maybe someone is up to something?
no you didnt lol
@@kellidanielle3688 Please tell me you're being facetious. Otherwise, you're just an idiot.
Thats a pilipino saying to
Damn, that was her baby boy. No matter how the kid may have acted, the pain of a mother losing her youngest is heart wrenching.
No mother should have to go through this!
@@Truelib99Hobbeswhat a ridiculous thing to say in this situation.
@@Truelib99Hobbes Ah yes, because children don't have free will... You could be the greatest parent of all time and still have your children make stupid choices. That's life.
crap mother, this would be prevented if they parented their sons properly to respect others and not gang up on people and attack them, this trial was a farse that man defended himself, i dont care if they were kids or not actions cause reactions period
@@simplex7096 I assume you haven't had any children of your own to come to this kind of comment. The action of stabbing someone who didn't have any weapons isn't called Self-defense. The kids had their part in this tragedy, they weren't completely innocent by causing a scene as accusing Nicolai with name; however, it shouldn't have costed their life for it.
You failed your son. If he did this after 18, then is on him. Issaac brought this to himself. He take the life of old man. Things went wrong due to Issaac. You all need to apologize and quit the victim game. Im outside view. Just quit it!!!!! STOP THE BULLY!!!++
Self defence 100%. Those kids were ruthless and brutal in their behaviour.. He was searching for a phone. I’d do the same searching for rocks.. I carry a pocket knife when outdoors. It’s very sad he could have been autistic & if he was inappropriate move on. No excuse for how they acted
Any creeper deserves to go to jail. They should have called the police, but they were children.
He wasn't autistic. He was a veteran in the Romanian military before he immigrated to U.S. His BFF in the red vest, veteran Cuban military, both communist countries, both trained to be violent. Nobody was hurting him, just his feelings. Just a little advice....don't try this with your knife...just walk away. It's almost always an option, and clearly was here. ✌
@@teresaweaver1012ah... that explains everything. He could have walked away but looked like he wanted a fight...he knew he was armed and was a skilled killer. He knew the damage he could do and wanted to take them on. Those kids didn't have a chance. Typical of our immigration policy... this country is a dumping ground for all the dregs. 😮
@@cb664 Both these men have every right to be here, having immigrated from oppressed countries, and most likely "came in the legal way". We have U.S. born men and women trained and skilled in warfare walking our streets every day and sometimes they over step the law as well. IMO, this type men have the same authoritarian narcissist problems many conservative folks exhibit. It's a problem. An older gentleman, retired cop, in Florida was acquitted of shooting and killing a young unarmed men for throwing popcorn. All this happened in front of the young wife as they were having a "date night". My point, not an immigration problem, just another pissed off authoritarian doing carnage because he didn't get his way. Let's hope justice is served here and not overlooked by a conservative judge. Unfortunately, the courts are stacked with them... by design, compliments of the GOP. Peace
He wasn’t a creeper, he was looking for a cell phone. His wife testified to this on the stand. How else would you look for a cell phone in the water??
Did she watch the video of her son and his
mob laughing as they assaulted a man? It starts at home, she has blood on her hands.
Those were her son's hands around the defendant's neck. He had an alcohol concentration nearly THREE TIMES the legal limit for driving, plus illegal marijuana. So much for "helpless child".
The left does not report that.
Getting drunk and high doesn't make you an adult. It also doesn't magically prevent you from being helpless.
@@jimmyrodriguez5670 he wanted to attack an adult so he got treated like an adult. Guess he wasn't taught to keep his hands to himself.
@@angelabarrera24 he was high and drunk, genius. But thanks for sharing with everyone that you're a sociopath.
@@angelabarrera24 so being stabbed and killed is what you would call being treated like an adult? I see.
This is how you manipulate a jury.
Shame on you
He killed her son what’s wrong with you
Not wrong, what does this do for the jury other than try to sway them into a guilty verdict through emotion?
Nice pictures of this kid but the image that keeps playing in my head is how with all his might he launched himself at Nick to totally take him out. 13 against 1. Bunch of Bullies
Raise your children people, and teach them how to behave. That's the best you can do for them. Teach them right.
Right, the defendant should have been raise right not to kill unarmed children you can control others actions just ur reaction
@@kimwhatmatters4085 Fuck around and find out.
@@kimwhatmatters4085 Have you watched the video of the tragedy? I rest my case.
@@jasenkavukelic5047The same video where he approached them? Where he touched them? Where he punched a girl? Where he stayed to be provoked some more?
@@kimwhatmatters4085 ,no, the arrogant bunch of drunk misfits should have been taught to respect elders, and not gang up on an elder. The arrogant kid f___ed around and found out....hard lessons learned by the rest of that arrogant pack....
Every parent needs to talk to their kids about not being a bully. You never know who you will encounter. If parent don't teach their kids, the world might have to
Isaac learned his lesson about being a bully and so did AJ who got disemboweled. Bullying always has consequences.
Facts
nobody here was a bully besides the giant oaf with a carving knife eager to murder kids - parents simply need to teach their kids when to run away. I could have told you this muir character was a danger as soon as he approached them in the video.
I’m sorry she lost her son,but unfortunately him and his friends found out that being a bullies can cost you your life.
Sad part is, her son was probably not more involved than being part of that group. There was this other guy, who filmed it all, who initiated it all, he was the one screaming the loudest, calling the man child molester and being all provocative. When young and part of a group it's important making sure your kid is in a good group of people..
@@anniesimone the kid who was killed had his hands around the defendant’s throat. He wasn’t just an observer
@@thistles Yes, I realized that, thanks for clearifying it.
I agree!!
He didn't do such thing! Don't victim blame. It's one thing stabbing one person in self defense, but going after 5 or 6 others isn't and is just plain out murder. Her child had nothing to do with it.
This mother had no business testifying. There is nothing to be gained by her testifying.
Humanizing and speaking for the victim.
That she raised a punkass thug that was bullying a grown man ! The shoulders some,if not most responsibility!
Prosecutor played the sympathy card. Get the grieving mama up there showing he baby pictures. Well, he wasn’t a baby. He was acting like a wild animal. He was choking the man. Sorry he’s dead. He was acting as a thug. Stupid game.
@@Hiiyena he's a gynocentric thug .
@@cynthiadouglas3970 you never drank alcohol and did something stupid? Whether or not the guy is guilty show some respect for a family that lost their young son. Everyone in the country is going to be talking about her baby, she should be allowed to say her piece. His life shouldnt be defined by one bad mistake to be judged harshly by strangers
Why? Why put a grieving mother on the stand? She wasn’t there. She can’t testify to anything that happened on the river that day. Cruel decision on the prosecution’s part to manipulate the jury.
For sympathy.
Miu done over dirty on this one. Shocking trial, especially the judge. He made numerous remarks that seemed very off, like when he seemed to say you will find him guilty of and then went through the counts. I've never seen that before.
She wanted to be there I will tell you that you obviously either one you haven't had children are two you have no clue what it's like to lose the child I do she wanted to be there to make sure that the jewelry seen the hell that they are going through That's why she's there not to manipulate the jurors this man is a habituate liar if he had not lied told the truth from finished to end he would be probably would have had a lesser charge or not guilty but that is what f***** him his lies and his damn deceit if he wasn't guilty why the hell did he have the knife they pulled my pants down there was so many things in there I was confused I had to go over twice to make sure my brain was hearing what the hell was coming out of this crazy person's mouth oh I'm quite sure his wife will probably file for divorce immediately
It’s important to hear about the victim and his life in a violent crime.
@@conservativegirl3371 - No. ‘Victim’s Statements’ are saved for AFTER the trial, IF/when the defendant is found guilty.
What is the purpose of the mother testifying?! I found this despicable and cheap of the prosecutor, can’t stand that guy🤌🏾
Title of this video says: "Victim's mother" ... but based on the brief summaries of the case I read and saw, she is not a mother of the victim. It was her son who was the attacker in the situation and met his unfortunate end as a consequence of the actual victim defending himself.
Am I wrong?
100% correct.
100% agree
100% wrong.
You are absolutely not wrong.
WHY the H is this woman on the stand if she was NOT a witness to the attack and retaliation ???? The Judge should not allow this EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL = Not a FAIR TRIAL IMO 😮
As a mother this just shatters my heart. I’m so sorry 😢
What was the point of a mother testifying on this?
So she knows she did everything she could do to protect her child. In life and death.
I imagine the guilt she has for not being there on the apple river
So you know a small fraction of the profound loss and suffering his murderer dispensed.
It’s meant to illicit a strong emotional response of sympathy for the deceased and anger towards the defendant from the jury. Plain and simple it’s meant to pull at the heartstrings.
Looking for compassion and media attention 👌🏼
Every parent should show their teens this video
Just imagine if these kids just kept going instead of taunting and threatening this drunk man looking for his lost property on the river.
A really sad case. Ultimately if this guy hadn’t been brought up thinking he was invincible and could mess with people to impress his friends, this wouldn’t have occurred.
Who provided alcohol to those teens??
That is a good question right
There were adults in the group, who provided the murderer his knife?
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This is what happends when you raised a drunk for a son. Terrible pareting.
My heart hurts for this momma I hope she knows how many love and support her from millions of miles away.❤🙏🏼🌻
She looks so defeated in the beginning when the guy asks her so now that you're a stay at home mom, and she has this defeated nod and says yeah
..but while her son Isaac I'm sure was a great guy, why didn't he try to stop the lynchmob mentality that Juhwan Cochfield had started, because it was Juhwan who began the filming and the taunting of Nikolai, and if Isaac was such a great young man, he could have stopped the mob. Or not approached Nikolai but maybe he wanted to be part of this big crew that was taunting and surrounding another person so he put himself in the line of fire it's too bad what happened but Isaac shouldn't have been so close
@@alancenne9537Isaac was about 3 times the legal limit alcohol in his system. Drunk as a skunk! Couple that with being a teenager, in a mob setting, there would be no good decisions that were going to be made by him.
I hope she doesn't blame herself for letting him go.
I hope she finds peace 😢
She failed her son. He should have known better than to engage in terrorizing a senior citizen
Her kid got together in a drunken pack and falsely accused a man of wanting to r*pe little girls.
Their accusations got more people to come over and start abusing the man they falsely accused.
I have no sympathy for bullies.
I have no sympathy for the parents of bullies who could not impart upon their children respect for others, and caution with strangers.
My father always taught me never to start a fight because you don't know where the other man will try to end it.
Perhaps it's because he didn't grow up in the gilded west where you could be safeguarded from the violence of this world. But he taught me about the world he knew.
And the world he knew is the reality for everyone except the pampered few.
The old psychopath told them he was "looking for little girls", probably sarcastically because he was mad his friend had sensibly told him to stay away from the young people in order to avoid giving the wrong impression. And as for starting the fight, the old psychopath started the fight when, one, he touched the first group's property and refused to leave, and two, initiated violence when he punched a woman who was telling him to leave.
I’m really sorry that she lost her son. If his group would have minded their own business, this wouldn’t have happened.
Where were the adults while the children were supplied with alcohol ??? Who bought them the alcohol ?? maybe, just maybe if they were not drinking none of this would have transpired. ???? The older man was looking for his friends phone. what a mess., alcohol brings out the assholes.
Whoever got them alcohol should also be charged. Judging by the witnesses and "victims" I see about 12 ppl minimum who should be brought up on charges.
As a mom I can get her pain , it should be the worst pain ever , but honestly the kid was bullying and the old guy made a stupid decision to stabbing them , so sad what alcohol and weed can make :(
Its not the drugs, its the pack mentality
@Lord_Humungus alcohol causes this belligerence. His blood level was very high.
@Thundernymph a lot of people drink a lot of alcohol, very few people in the world ever do anything as moronic as the turd group
But isaac was such a good kid never bullied anyone 🎻🎻🎻 you did a great job raising him, mom 👏🏆
Absolutely despicable that the prosecution brought this woman up to testify. Just no reason for it other than to try to get the jury to see a clearly grieving mother, get sympathy, and hope they convict Miu. She would have nothing to add to the actual allegations since she wasn't even there. If she were to be called at all, it should be during sentencing.
Unfortunately...there's been a DEATH of a 17 year old boy. She's strong. If U was her I'd hope I could do exactly the same thing...for my son's JUSTICE!!
@@kerri-lynbryant293 go to bed Kerri
For jury to feel sorry😐 🤷♀️🙄
This whole thing stinks especially the video itself know my generation one of them probably did start it we have no video of it, two 5 on 1 is gonna have a big chance of there being a force multiplier involved, in my opinion Issac and his friends played stupid games and won stupid prizes
Defense said “ yeah, I’ll skip this one.”
Of course. She shouldn’t even be testifying at this stage. For sentencing, sure. But what does mother of the year know about what her little gremlin got up to? What good would it do to give her more opportunity to cry in front of the jury?
5 football players (17yo) incites an angry mob﹠weren’t gonna stop until they had what they wanted, video for social media clout. the defendant Nicolae Miu (54) a triple bypass surgery patient downstream to look for a lost phone, they tell ‘pedophile’ he doesn’t even hear them, doesn’t react, so. they take his snorkel. Then when the crowd of adults draws near, they say, “We have evidence on video that he is a pedo’ No little kids were on the river that day, besides these teens (17) it was all adults. that is a fact that both sides swore, all had to admit this on the stand. -they wanted to kill this defendant, who doesn’t want to get rid of that type of person: but it wasn’t true at all-the angry mob going on the teens (17) inciting them, 13 people surrounding defendant, they punch him, knock him in the water then pushes him under water
@@thistles despicable.
@@thistlesclown
@@taramillr9541 you're such a good person omg how are you such a good person no one could ever be as good a person as you
I feel so sad for everyone that knew him especially his mother. This just broke my heart.
Why did it break your heart. What you didn't see how this kid was acting
Go watch the full uncut video. I thought the same seeing the still photos, but when you see the video it's different.
@@SandraGarcia-vz1frso what?? He’s a kid. You are a nasty person
@@SandraGarcia-vz1frIsaac was still a kid, growing and learning. In life, we ALL deal with extremely unpleasant human beings. The answer is NOT to take each life.
@@SandraGarcia-vz1frdude punched the girl first how do you expect them to act towards him
She should have taught her child instead of raising a bully that had to learn the hard way.
Did you forget that pos ran up on the teenagers first. He murdered a child and injured 4 others.
the poor kid didn't do anything except try to restrain Miu after he stabbed the girl. The one who raised the bully was the mother of Nicolae Miu.
@@perenoel657 Yes restrain. His hands went upward because of Miu thrusting a knife into his heart. That was explained by the Medical Examiner and the DA. Some young teenagers verbally harass this man and he escalates to a mass murder situation. The instincts of these teens were absolutely correct. This man was very disturbed. I don't want to live in a country where you get stabbed for putting your hand on someone's shoulder, or even pushing them. You sound like a "wooman" hater and a Stand Your Ground nutcase. You place your hateful comment on a video of Isaac's mom grieving for her son. Shame on you. RIP Isaac.
sick comment. Isaac did nothing wrong. Shame on you
@@perenoel657 Gentle push? From the same man that disemboweled A J Martin with a knife wound over a foot long? Stabbed a young woman in the abdomen in such a sneaky way she didn't even see the knife? Crazy is as crazy does. The fans of Mr. Miu are fascinating people. Who sticks around when teens are yelling go go away? who hits a woman? Whoever you are, you aren't the father or mother of a murdered child.
This mother is suffering the worst of all ): poor thing. God wrap your arms around her!!
Raised a bully who was drunk and harassing an older man
@@Elena-fe3osShe did not raise him to do that. He chose it.
@@Elena-fe3osdo you have nothing better to do than to reply to every single comment? troll
@@keelysmeltser I do not reply to all the foolish comments, I have no time for that.
I suggest to watch the videos recordee by the bullies. ...troll
Just like the son who wrapped his hands around miu’s neck
Warning: Raise your kids right or you also will be attending an early funeral and/or testifying in court.
Teenagers are going to be teenagers no matter how they are raised. Stop pretending like you weren't a fucking idiot at that age. Everyone is.
Don’t elect trump again because he’s damaged this generation with his hate
Absolutely
You are right, the mother of the killer didn’t raise her son properly, I’m sure all his life he’s been a bully.
Please sh$$ up! How do you know he was taunting him? I believe he was raised right. He was 17 with his own bussiness. And going to college. Not all of them were taunting him. And if he was he didn’t deserve to be murdered. You sound like an angry 12 year old.
All those disrespectful young adults. How you treat and respect older ppl and ppl in general starts at home...
Sympathy witness. Sorry for her loss. That man was defending himself from a mob of bullies
thanks for posting this...I agree a sympathy witness. Mob of bullies, I am 68 and I would of fought for my life, for I fear for the man 10 years younger than me as he was being attack by a pack of wolves
@@x35mmman I don’t think his age matters. Who wouldn’t feel threatened? I know I would and I’m 55
Yeah he felt soo threatened that despite having multiple chances to walk away still chose violence
@@lonerebeI Where was he going to walk to???? They were all on the same river!
@@gigia41 The apple river is 77.5 miles long but you're saying this guy had no other place to stand in besides right in front of this group?. Use your brain for once
Whats the point of her testimony was she there?
The kids fucked around and found out. Isaac just happened to find out the most
It is called Spark of life testimony, and it is only permitted in one state, which is Minnesota. This is Wisconsin. Her testimony should not have been permitted in the trial phase. Grounds for appeal right there. Hope they actually appeal for him!
It's a tragic ending to something that could have been avoided. Lesson #1: don't allow your teens to use alcohol and drugs until they are legally allowed to. Lesson #2: teach them to respect other people and not bully.
It's always sad when someone dies, but everyone needs to make better choices. Bad behavior and alcohol is no excuse.
No mother wants to go through this, but people die every single day when they abuse substances and hang out in groups.
I am sorry for their loss of Isaac, but in this type of situation, I would have defended myself from the mob as well and if he went for my throat like he did to Mr. Miu, I cannot say that I would have allowed him to choke me if I was carrying.
Should of taught her son not to bully
Should of watched his friends more closely
You can tell those kids were nothing but trouble
Drinking and smoking pot all underage
wow
Kids should of all make better choices in life and helped this guy find his cell phone
Instead of being assholes to this man
Just know all the mothers who are watching this are here for you. We couldn't imagine your pain 😢. May your son rest in peace, and may you walk together again in paradise. ❤
That's kid's in hell right now.
@@gigia41 jeez that's harsh
@@sarahs1849 Well it's true.
@@sarahs1849 I've got zero compassion for kids that act like vicious animals toward their elders. Like ZERO. My daughters would've helped this man look for his phone, not treated him with the zero respect while recording him so they could upload it to social media. FFS.
@@gigia41 Listen, Gina, my greatest advice to you is to have some empathy, even for people you may not agree with. We are all human. You have a child. What if someone stabbed your daughter to death? No matter what she said or did prior to being stabbed...if you stand by that original comment then fine, so be it, but try to have a heart. That's someone's child.
Raise your children well. Teach them how to treat others including Strangers.
100% entitled shits got away with this and they know it.....
Mother is responsible for not raising him with morals and respect for how elders.
such disgusting comments. If this was your child that was murdered i doubt you would be on here defending this man
I think a lot of teens out there have good parents and raised them right but like a lot of teens out there they are foolish. They act differently when parents aren't there to see. I think we have all done stupid things as a teen. However, I do think the children should be held accountable just like the man.
@@suzygordon2331wasn’t murder it was self defense. Wonder what you would do in this situation if a bunch of drunk young ADULTS were attacking you.
@@koleevins6114 He had the choice to leave. Instead he committed one murder and almost committed mass murder. He also made the brilliant move of hitting a woman. Did not show an ounce of self reflection. She had her friends around her, but she could also have had her boyfriend or husband watching. In fact, Dante came over there to defend her, and he wasn't her boyfriend. He took a lot of stupid chances because some young teens verbally harassed him. If he was smart he would have made a police report of the incident, and kept his knife out of it. The man was just very disturbed. He has some kind of personality disorder where he can't walk away.
@@Liz-dl4wx maybe there should be a charge for calling him a pedophile. As far as i know, there isn't such a charge. Maybe that should be a hate crime.
Legally, I don't know how they allowed, a Mother to testify... They are trying to prove Self Defense OR not. ... This is too sad.
I see, the family has money. That's why this man is charged. Is she seriously not self aware enough to know that if she had taught her son to treat people with basic human dignity her son would still be alive. So sad
Yup money talks just like with OJ
Yall don't need to be putting all the blame on the parents. The kid's didn't have a weapon. They were bullying, yes. The man adult was told to leave and left and then came back. That is when it went bad wrong. The kids never had a weapon.
@@tracyparker550 you don't need a weapon to kill someone when it's a large group vs one old man with a heart condition. The old man didn't have a weapon, everyone I know has a small short pocket knife. It's a common place tool . Anything can become a weapon if your life is threatened, including the sharp rocks they threw the man down on or the water they could have drowned him in. It's not all on the parents but it's not a the old man either.
🙏🙏🙏 i pray this woman will find peace again. This is heartbreaking.
It's unfortunate that her son decided to drink knowing he was a minor. It's unfortunate he decided to put his hands around an old mans neck in an attempt to choke and kill him. His own actions led him to his death. His choice of "friends" was also one to begin with. No winners here. It's unfortunate that his stupidity put his mother and family in this situation! He would have more than likely been the one sittingin the defense table and not Nic! #FREENICMIU
This lady is so strong. I know she kept thinking to herself this is killing my soul but I have to try and keep it together so my son can get the justice he deserves. Mam may God bless you!!
he'd still be alive if they minded their own business.
No justice needed here.
Justice was served on July 30, 2022
@@jedswildpulls7121The knife guy was the aggressor!! He charged their tubes, wouldn't leave them alone and punched a young girl in the face, so they pushed him in the water. Then he attacked them with knives.
tunes? I bet you're judging by his name
Should have raised him better than to act like the tough guy.
Im sorry no pitty here she raised an awful son who was disrespectful as many young teens are today.
Did you ever insult anyone when you were young?
@@JudySnyder-dv5ld I was raised right and at that age I had NEVER verbally disrespected any adult even once, let alone shouting highly inflammatory vile lies and accusations along with a mob of 5 other 'friends'. If you find that behavior acceptable, you need serious 'help'.
@@kate1830 Never ASSume. It makes it so easy to be wrong by doing that. You're wrong saying I'm 'angry' at a stranger. I'm not 'angry'. It's plainly clear that if you had 100 Mr Miu's on that river with other NORMAL ppl in that 1/2 mile stretch, you'd have ZERO problems YET if you had 100 drunk disrespectful teens & drunk airhead women that don't know how to act like an adult, mixed with NORMAL ppl, you'd have many problems.
The 'mother' had a son that had NO business attacking a 52 year old man who was minding his own business until the teens started sh*t with him. Mother should be ashamed of how her son disrespected and attacked Miu, along with the teen's dangerous mob.
So going by your logic, that warranted him getting stabbed in the heart and losing his life? Wow. Incredible. What a scum bag.
Agreed
Mr Miu was bullied on that fateful day on the Apple River.....and he's being bullied AGAIN in the courtroom! This was a complete miscarriage of justice and it should be appealed!
I hate how much I agree with your comment. The way all those punks were assaulting him, and for some reason, they all felt the need to point their fingers at him and then for the prosecution to ask them to identify the defendant by pointing their finger. Just so sick.
Right
If this was in Canada
The teenagers started it ffs
End of story
That man had to protect his self
@@mandy7131 He punched a woman in the face and one of the dudes pushed him down after then he pulled a knife. I'm sure if he pulled the knife and gave that kid a second that they would all of backed off. He'd still be charged with assaulting a minor, as well as most courts really frown upon hitting women.
@@justing9902 Rhyley and Madi inserted themselves into the situation and escalated it by putting their hands on Mui's chest and arms pushing him and yelling in his face. There isn't any objective evidence that he ever punched Madi. No one yells he hit a woman until after Mui was punched, slapped, and pushed down into the river twice. Rhyley and 2 of the drunk and high teens pushed Mui down into the river.
My ❤ goes out to his Mom 😭……. This HURTS !!! 😭💯😭💯😭💯😭💯😭
I've heard the word "hyenas" thrown around a lot watching videos of this case. But the only hyenas I've seen are these prosecutors using this woman's grief in an attempt to advance their careers.
Why is she testifying? She wasn’t present. Sympathy?
Your first trial huh?
You do realize her son was murdered by defendant?
You realize her son was part of a mob beating an old man into a riverbed, right?@@DRobb-zi2rj
She Still a Victim.
Because he wasn’t just a drunk kid, he was her child. No matter what he was stabbed to death
@@Fergie66813 Cathie obviously has her mind made up. Thankfully she’s not a juror. Hopefully she’s not a mother. No empathy for Isaac’s mom, really?
The best way to protect your kids is to teach them to respect their elders and don't attack old people
So what didn't Mui's parents teach him, how did he end up being a psychopath that stabbed 5 people?
Sucks, his friends were drinking underage and bullying and harrassing people that didnt have any concern for them. His friends antagonized and harrassed and cahsed this. Being bullies
@@DeagleGamesTV there's no duty to retreat. You don't have to leave when someone is harrassing you and ganging up on. You can stand up for yourself and protect yourself against multiple attackers.
@@DeagleGamesTVto bad there is a video proving you wrong. They followed and tried to kill that man.
@@nickanderson7693 While there isn't an express, codified statutory "duty to retreat" in Wisconsin, as a practical matter you are in fact wrong; the state does NOT have a "Stand Your Ground" law, and Wisconsin juries will absolutely be instructed to consider a failure to retreat when evaluating the proprietary of the use of force by a defendant in a given situation.
I think this was just for sympathy. I also lost my only child and son when he was 18 in an accident. This is an easy but cheap card to play.
This is why you teach your children to not mess with other people be respectful and don't be a bully or poke at people cuz your friends are recording and laughing none of us know what a person is capable of until its to late. Teach your children they are not invincible. Treat others how you want to be treated bottom line this would not have happened if they left that man alone.
He shouldn’t have got in the man’s face so close after the man was pushed down the young guys definitely caused this outcome the man was cornered 😦
The killer was a psycho monster. He was a Romanian thug, probably a gypsy, spoiling for a fight. He could have walked away but clearly wanted a street fight. He knew they were unarmed and young but wanted to cut people.
He could have walked away at any time, he was far from cornered.
@@vinny1883 so could have the young idiots who chose to confront,surround and taunt him pushing him down in the water where his life was in danger 🤔
@@KCBluesJams being pushed into shallow water when you can get back up isn't life-threatening.
@@vinny1883are you stupid or dumb.
He loved drinking too. Don’t forget the drinking.
And the weed, and the aggression.
Someone getting killed while they're blackout drunk and trying to protect their friends isn't... Funny or doesn't make them evil. It's just... Fucked.
The kid was wasted, I guarantee if he was sober he would've acted different. He wasn't a bad kid but anyone can do anything when they're blackout drunk. It's just... Sad
His friend Jawahn should be charged for instigating the situation and egging on his friend during the assault while recording. Feel like things would have been different if Jawah wasnt there…
I feel sorry for her but her son was a bully. He didn't deserve to die but those were the consequences of his own actions.
I don't understand how or why she is a witness?
Because she got there and saw her son dead how dare you even make a comment like this that grown man is guilty 💯
She needed to be heard and had every right to be up on that stand
@@kaitlynshafer6553he was surrounded by multiple drunk teens and was hit over and over and tossed into the water face down. I’m not agreeing he should have killed someone, but that situation for him wasn’t easy. They kept coming at him and wouldn’t leave him alone. We see everyday killings start like that with a bigger group against one person. What was he supposed to do or think?
Why? Does it make you feel a twinge of compassion? I know it’s an unusual sensation for you but it will pass
@@kaitlynshafer6553 it’s a perfectly reasonable comment. She didn’t witness anything of value to determine guilt. This kind of testimony is more appropriate at sentencing, after a defendant has been found guilty.
I would bet anything that after he hit the women, if someone had punched him one time (in self defense) and had he fallen and hit his head on a rock ( leading to his death), then that person would be in jail for murder. Yet he may not serve jail time after lurking around teens and maming 5-6 of them. This man ( supposedly frail and old) walked up stream in water a long distance ( walking in water is hard and upstream is even harder), then ran up and lunged at kids, hit one, stabbed 5-6, killed 1, and then walked back to his group hundreds of feet away, got dressed, then tried to leave, clean the knife in water while walking back, toss the knife in the trail, then lie to cops (and his friends) and pretend he knew nothing about the incident. No frail old man does that. 1) 54 is middle aged and NOT old, 2) the cardiopulmonary endurance it takes to do all of that is huge and he did it just fine. So they can stop with the frail old man line. The teens had a suspicion about him being unsafe and they were right because of what happened which was 80% his fault. As the adult he should have known better. This man tried to leave the scene of a Friday the 13th movie. Defense needs to call a medical professional to testify as the fitness it takes to do all of this.
We have reviewed the videos. We saw them. Shame on those teenagers. Shame. What a pack attack & ethnic slur
So has the jury! GUILTY!
This was so hard to watch. Mrs Hernandez's pain is unmeasurable. It took every ounce of her being to hold it together and to not break down sobbing. As hard as it is to watch, its very important to for the jury to humanize the victim.
That is completely incorrect. Spark of life testimony is not acceptable in Wisconsin or any other state but Minnesota. This mother should not have been on the stand. But the worst part is, they did not allow the defendants, twin brother to humanize Miu. An absolutely disgusting sham of a trial this was.
Wow, show her pictures so she could cry and make a scene so the jury works in their favor...... People just raise your kids right.... these we'rent innocent babies... they were young adults mobbing on a man and that man who lost control commited homicide.......
Teach your sons to respect elders, even strangers.
The kiddo shouldn't have bee provoking that man and that man should have been grown enough to walk away. Both are wrong
Your son did the wrong thing by joining a mob and assaulting someone he had no reason to assault. That person defended themself. This is what happens when you fail to raise properly. Thats all you guys.
100%
"stay at home mom" trying to make her emotional from the get-go. this is so dirty but it's all about manipulating the jury...
Yeah that was such a bad comment in my opinion
How was this allowed, it’s not relevant.
Why did she let him drink so much and behave that way? His friends were also bad seeds. Parents need to make sure their kids are hanging around the right crowd.
“Now you’re a stay at home mom?”
Seriously dude?
Why was the mother and other parents nit stopping tgeir children from harrasing others.
The old psychopath left his group to walk over and harass others, touching their belongings and refusing to leave. He is the harasser. There is something wrong with you
@@mbb-- Maybe watch the video? He tries to leave and gets continually pushed over and punched, then he brings out the knife.
@@OfficialCharles He did not try to leave. He punched a woman, then was knocked down by her friends. Even then he had a clear path to leave, yet chose to stay and disembowel people, choosing as his FIRST disembowelment victim a 110 lb unarmed girl
@@mbb-- the man was totally wrong in stabbing. Goes without saying. But the kids are least from the video. Crowding around him pushing screaming yelling. That percolated the situation. Still no excuse and unreasonable force to produce a knife and stab people innocent or not. But my question still stands about the kids and the way they were harassing the guy en masse at least from the video .
@@mala-dd8fg That was after he had interfered with their tubes, refused to leave, hit a woman and pulled a knife
Sorry for your lost of your son. If he was not attacking a elderly man with 12 of his friends he would be alive 😢
Hate to admit it but you have a point.
How many people insulted someone when they were young and didn't get stabbed?
Your son was a bully. What a shame of what happened.
This was not a random act of violence. This woman was more concerned about the sunscreen on his ears than raising a barking animal that got his kicks bullying and defaming others. Take a note on how not to raise children.
That was the most gut wrenching thing I have ever seen. I have a son and I can't even imagine this happening :( Lord please wrap your arms around this mother
This poor mother will have to watch her son’s irresponsible friends move on with their lives knowing that because 4-6 of them got mean and drunk and thought they could record/manufacture a viral incident at the expense of an innocent man inquiring about a lost phone. They were looking to stage a viral video to post on their social media platforms and get lots of likes and whatever else comes with that. Many of the kids/young adults described as victims have prior history(arrests) with the police. I don’t know that the defendant has a criminal history we’ll hear if he does or doesn’t. First degree murder charge is a big mistake (over charge, harder to prove). Most all of the prosecutor’s witnesses were drunk and high and have criminal history and have already been caught lying by defense attorneys. Alcohol-stupidity-aggression is a scary thing to be in the presence of, ask any police officer, they’ll tell you that young and dumb is the stuff of nightmares.
this was such a cheap shot on the prosecutor, there was no reason to make that poor mother sit there and cry just for the dramatic benefit in front of the jury. My heart just breaks for her.
Your child was drunk.. twice the limit.. where were you when he became distrustful.. poor child.. no parents
Disappointed.. Disrespectful
Teach you kids respect, stay out of other peoples personal space and they may not get assaulted, stabbed and killed.
If these young adults would have been good people instead of terrible people this would have never happen.
@taramcgavan7654 well, I guess trolls speaking the truth.
How is she a witness?
Character witness maybe???
I hope Isaac's friends stay in touch with his mom. You could tell how much his friends loved Isaac by their reaction when Isaac was hurt, and they knew it was bad. The one friend said "NO!! ISAAC!!! THIS CAN'T BE REAL!!". Isaac's mom's love of her son will never end, and Isaac's friends will never forget him. Mom will need to know, and be reminded, that Isaac lived on this earth, that he was loved and he will always be missed, because he touched so many people in his few years he had here. Of course it would be so great if Isaac recovered and were still here, but it speaks to how special he was and to see the difference. he made in so many people's lives in such a short time. That is the biggest tragedy, is because of this, what is the world losing out on?? What differences could he have made to the world? I have a feeling his family will move forward in this life to make a difference in his name. RIP young man, the world knew you.
Those kids were bullying and beating up on the guy, shoving him under the water...self defense
No mother should have to go through this. How horrible this is a terrible situation. 😢
she should have raised her children better than that.
So she was drinking and smoking weed too ?
@@Stroopwaffe1 I don’t judge her all I know she lost her son. Why would you bring that up. Are you perfect?
@@phobos258Thank you.
@@dianaleal5183Why not, had she done better he would have still been breathing.
As a mom to a 15 year old boy. I can sympathize however, facts are facts. There is no win in this unfortunate situation. Hopefully just lessons learned for everyone. As parents, for our children, as humans, hopefully we can all learn something from this and do better…
Sad situation all around, I feel for this woman who tried a raise a good son which I am sure she did. One momentary lapse in judgement is all it takes kids. Dont fuck with people and youll likely live a long and happy life.
I'm so confused about why they asked a grieving mother to testify? She didn't see the event go down, why make her suffer?