Why Goku VS Doomslayer Isn't Close
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- Why Goku VS Doomslayer Isn't Close! When it comes to powerhouses in the gaming world, one definitely cannot overlook the Doomguy, the demon-tearing space marine, and when it comes to anime goats, you cannot really look past Son Goku from Dragon Ball Z who has done amazing accolades and battled numerous gods. But to decipher which of these overpowered humanoids who fought deities would defeat the other if they had to roll up, I decided to analyze their feats, statements, lore, and other stuff.
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Hey when you cover sonic the hedgehog
Could yo do Goku vs Doctor strange?
The statement you showed literally has nothing to do with uncountable alephs its just talking about the boundaries in-between dimensions or the dimensions themselves in the cosmology 💀💀💀💀
I think Doomslayer vs Spawn would be a good fight
Have you considered pitting Apocalypse from Marvel Comics against Goku?
Finally, worthy opponents for Handsome Squidward. Maybe if they team up they can beat him.
"Nah, we'd win"
Only Kirby could be a challenge to that monstrosity
Nah, handsome squidward would neg them
Same person 😂@@minichad5456
The one problem with this discussion is that Doomslayer has no feats showing the limits of his strength and power. It's like trying to scale Saitama. We know the feats of his opponents. But was Doomslayer using 10% of his power? 1%? Less than that? Sure, we as players struggle in game, but canonnically, Doomslayer isn't even trying. In the lore, he effortlessly tears through every obstacle placed before him with no difficulty.
This perfectly explains my problem.
Pretty sure that the divinity machine explicitly made sure that he wins literally every obstacle he’s put against. He only went into slumber when he was no longer needed, i.e. no threat present. If Goku and the saiyans pose a threat, divinity machine hack would outline the slayer to be vicarious.
That's why we just say he has Immeasurable strength and call it a day
Saitama used full strength against Garou so L comparison
@@astreusastresus198 Saitama used one hand that entire fight while mocking Garou bro was definitely not using full strength
Doom slayer only using guns to make it fair for his enemy
The Doom Slayer is a Primeval that can also empower his guns by using the Quad Damage/Onslaught Power Up as stated by Hugo Martin.
Still. But as we all know if he touches something with lethal intent they will basically pop 😂@@MrLim-wq2gn
A powerscale on Hellboy would be cool. Can’t really find anyone actually talking about how powerful he really is
And I’m not just saying that because of my profile picture, I genuinely think he’s underrated
Hell boy V Spawn has always been a matchup I'd like to see as op as Spawn is
Cause Hellboy is low universal at best he gets mopped up pretty quickly by this big hitters
@@reallyhimongod that’s still op as hell dude
@@LineproofI see what you did there nice pun
Doomslayer safely Gets to 5D
The hyperversal stuff is debatable because there are times where they use dimensions and universes as the same thing
But Great video Dude
@@S_Scaling💀
I mean anime Goku is multiversal but everything else he said is cap@@Meetrandomtimes
Doom slayer is 7D
@@S_Scalingdoom guy and super Goku are complex multiversal, manga Goku is possibly low hyperversal,xeno Goku and cc Goku are high hyperversal to possibly low outerversal
Doomguy safeley gets to 7d bare minimum. Goku also gets there with some scaling too either way both are above 5D
Finally! Another proper vs discussion featuring Goku from Chuck.
And, it features Doomguy! Lit.
Thanks for watching!
@@Chuck you’re welcome and keep up the good work.
I'll take Doom/Doomslayer content ANYDAY: Thanks, Chuck!
Thanks for watching!
A better matchup for the Doom Slayer would be Doomsday who became the King of Hell from DC.
My guy doomslayer ain't beating doomsday. Doomsday who has fought darkseid maybe true from and can adapt to anything and comes back stronger during or after the fight.
Just to be clear goku killed majin buu, who literally ATE the king of hell.
@@Mindhaxors As a Dragon ball fan, I think it's clear you can't compare Majin Buu to Doomsday
@@parkerwebb3470 nah i think xeno or cc Goku are scaled on par or higher than true form darkside (if he is scaled to his peak)
Also darkseid died only because he completely let his guard down assuming his omega beam should have killed doomsday plus we have no actual proof that whether doomsday killed true form darkside or just an avatar (within the comic itself)
@@Mindhaxorsalthough Majin buu had insane healing factor being able to return from gaseous state doomsday is 'true' immortal not just in terms he really can't be permanently killed i don't think even hakai could do anything to him maybe zeno's erase will work tho
Ive gotta go Slayer basically regardless of the circumstance, good vid.
Thank you!
W video, but I feel like you slept on some of doomslayer’s hax that might work on xeno goku, for example, his immortality is slightly different from that of dbh characters, yes he can live forever and he can regenerate like them to, but he also can just come back if he is completely destroyed like if you actually kill him, secondly the doomslayer has durability negation via the unmakyr and crucible, he can also interact with souls seeing as in the classic games he can kill ghosts and he can also kill sprits post ancient gods dlc, with the microwave beam attachment on his plasma rifle he can stun lock enemies and burn them from the inside and his weapons including the ranged ones scale to his AP as he can empower his ranged stuff to scale to his normal self, he can absorb the energy of his foes like how he normally does with argent energy, his stamina is infinite so unless I’m missing something goku can’t nullify his stamina, plus we don’t know if they keysword could withstand blows from the crucible if they were to get into a cool sword fight, he can freeze goku in place (temporarily I think but maybe forever if I’m missing something which I very well might be) in the ice his enemies’ durability and endurance also drop, force field creation with the chaingun, infinite ammo, I could go on and yes I could talk about how he has a bunch of resistances to these things he has himself and more but it would be to much for a comment, but overall good video
Where does it say that slayer can come back if he is destroyed? (genuine question)
@@Schro_well, we know that in gameplay (and in battle mode as well iirc) the slayer has extra lives and the cheats you can get through playing the game that enhance the slayers power are canon, the devs said that in eternal they wanted to make the gameplay feel somewhat closer to the lore to make you feel op fighting demons and one of those ways was via extra lives which the slayer would normally have an infinite amount of, extra lives are basically what that is which is the slayer coming back if he is somehow completely destroyed
@@fpsthecommentator2387 i dont think thats canon to the lore though, they are more just a gameplay mechanic, just like dying is a gameplay mechanic but it isnt canon to the lore
@zapch9547 certain gameplay elements like extra lives are Canon tho, like how berserk and haste and all the power ups are as well as there being literal codex entries about them in game
@@fpsthecommentator2387 I understand berserk and haste (although in my headcanon berserk is just slayer feeling like throwing hands) but since he is canonically indestructable than why would there even be a need for extra lives
A big problem for Goku was that it was confirmed that Doom Slayer not only matched but also surpassed the absolute power of Davoth which could create and destroy infinite multiverses. Hinting at reality warping powers on a scale that could erase all of possibility, this is why Doom Slayer needs guns because going full power is too easy.
Until Goku develops immunity to reality warping (An example: Xeno can't erase Goku.) , Goku is going to have exceptional difficulty staying alive against The Slayer.
Thanks for another vid Chuck!
You bet!
So the Doomslayer can decisively beat both Kratos and Goku.... but "officially" still loses to Master Chief?
You probably know what I'm talking about...😒
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To be fair that before 2016 and old doom was just a shoter
Dope shit chuck, gon listen to this while working.
Chuck chuck, what the hell? Christmas is still a solid ten months away, no need to spoil us like that. Awesome video as always.
Thanks!
Hell yeah Chuck droppin that knowledge with a savage vid
We are in a odd situation
Doom slayer is unstoppable as long as humanity exists
Doom slayer is the protector of humanity
Still a lovecraft victim
Like what you been doing with adding the characters variations as well to the 1v1s 🤩
You know watching a Chuck video is a good way to start the weekend.
Hell being stated to be blatantly beyond time, space, and infinite dimensions is baseline outer. Considering Hell is an extension of Davoths own power, Doomslayer would pretty much one shot Goku like an ordinary Imp (if we used the current DBS Goku that is) since Doomslayer had the power to contend with & defeat Davoth
Well, even the Maykrs are unbound by space, which would make Urdak baseline outerversal. If they couldn’t see hell fullly, that means that he’ll transcend over them, finally making hell normal outerversal.
@juanjoyaborja.3054 being unbound by space and time isn't outerveral. You need to transcend the very concept of space and time, not just be above it.
@@joshuaaboo4767 isn't that just the same thing?
@@joshuaaboo4767 isn't transcending something being above it?
yoooo new Chuck video , Hype
Thanks for watching!
@@Chuck thanks for making the video
Waited like 13 hours for this shit, haven’t slept.
And I still somehow missed it by an hour.
Great video, you been cooking!
You already know!
The hyperversal and outerversal stuff for doomguy is more dubious. He should really be at an infinite 6d level. Greats vid btw, keep it up dude
Also i have a match-up suggestion between john Wick and tyler rake
Infinite 6D or Infinite 7D is fine Outerversal is contentious hes either 7D or Low Outer.
I literally played both Doom games. The man doesn't do anything more than any other fps protagonist. You guys are literally insane and is why I hate power scalers so much. What a cancerous community
W video, i cannot wait for jumpforce goku scale from you
Awosome video man keep up the good work
Thanks! Will do!
Chuck: leaves for a few months and returns with absolute BANGERS!
ITS CHUCK O CLOCK!!
LOL I always wanted to say that in one of your videos 😂
Out of all fictional opponents in video games and anime, this is probably the most fair matchup against Goku. Doomslayer is really fucking strong when looking at his feats. So imo, this is a 50/50 matchup
Doomslayer is overrated
@@draco_1876 No Goku is overrated given how almost all power scales eventually compare X character to goku. Doomslayer is still relatively new to the scene of power scaling technically
@@kelmirosue3251 His retconned version
@@DarthNox66 So you mean Doom 3? That's the only version that seems to be retconned. Cause this Doomslayer is also doomguy, THE doomguy, so he's the one from Doom 1, 2, Doom 64, Doom (2016), Doom Eternal for the timeline
@@kelmirosue3251 Where did you got that he is Doomguy
Bro you are really underrated the doom slayer
Another banger of a video
3:54 Immeasurable Speed just means having enough speed to travel through time via raw speed and we call this Immeasurable because it breaks the speed formula of speed is equal to distance over time and is actually way faster than Infinite Speed and Inaccessible Speed because it allows you to arrive before you even left. in DOOM 2016 The Slayer's Testament VI describe the Doom Slayer a "Time Walker" who can travel through worlds and through time in the Lore.
Pretty good vid 👏
Appreciate it
I think this is my new Well done T-Bone Steak
The power to match his will given to someone who is literly rage incarnated, i think that explains itself
Honestly these two can pretty much be scaled anywhere and there’s people who’d agree or disagree, though I am gonna ask, does Doomguy have any impressive skill feats/training, I partially wonder because despite everything Goku has, those are still incredibly important parts of the character, so I like it when debates involving him can include that part of him.
He was the best among the Night Sentinels who protected the king and they would be tasked with fighting demons.
He was trained as a space marine. After annihilating three separate demon invasions alone he goes into hell and fights for an unknown amount of time. While in hell, he fought nonstop until he was discovered by the night sentinels. The night sentinels threw him in the coliseum and judged that he was too strong to be wasted in the coliseum. He was then made the first foreign night sentinel and trained in their ways. He became the best night sentinel and led them until Argent D'Nur fell to hell. He then spent billions of years in hell fighting nonstop. From there he's imprisoned in the sarcophagus and the events of DOOM 4 begin. His training isn't that notable, but I would still say his fighting skill and technique are probably quite good. Billions of years of experience fighting would probably teach you how to fight better than any mentor could. I don't think he has any particularly impressive skill feats other than his ability to immediately understand foreign technology and weaponry. There hasn't been any shown skill that he hasn't been proficient in. He's basically succeeded at everything with no apparent difficulty since the start of the series. In terms of his fighting skill, there haven't been much in terms of details. All we really know about his style is that he's extremely aggressive and proficient with both ranged and melee combat. I don't think his skills are lacking compared to Goku, but he probably has fewer techniques and tricks at his disposal.
I like to see your take on Mario vs sonic.
Of course DoomGuy wins.
40k fanboy vs Doom fanboy who weighs the most
@@me67galaxylife40k bro that’s not even close
@@me67galaxylifethere’s a lot of doom fans who listen to themes in the gym I doubt 40k fans understand the concept of light,sun and grass
@@atomsmasher9279 well by numbers true, but what about individually
@@YungBZ Some certainly, but "a lot" doubt it
Most of them are too busy writing an essay on how doomguy is the best character in video game history and the most powerful and multi-outerversal (despite all of his power he can't bring their dads back from the milk) and how somehow that adds on their previous (dubious) claim of best character
Doomslayer i feel is downplayed by many people so thank you for doing this
another Chuck HOOD CLASIC video 🙏
I though of making this video is exhausting. So much ground to cover with characters like Goku.
"The godly Saiyan with a million hairstyles" 🤣 Not wrong.
Yoo chuck, its been a while since ive seen on of he videos, still as good as ever if im being honest
Thank you for watching!
@@Chuck ignore my bad spelling right there 💀, the sun doesn’t help. But yea man, keep up the work!
Nice vid, lets hope doomguy gets amp in the next game, so he can compete with the big dogs
There's a scaling for DOOM, at least high hyper for a single multiverse. If you'd like, I could send it to you.
He’s not tho
He literally used human weapons. Hugo Martin himself admitted the games showcase his power
@@draco_1876 Hugo Martin confirmed Doom Slayer empowers his weapons, not only that, Hugo Martin confirms a lot of lore statements never shown in the game itself. You gotta remember DOOM is an FPS game, and there's a lot of things Hugo Martin wanted to implement to the game but cannot due to development issues because of the pandemic.
chuck. great.
you should do a video of the Doom Slayer vs DOOMSDAY The New King of Hell.
Please do dante vs doomslayer
Dante wins
"JACKPOT!!!"
@xyklose8486 no demon could ever beat Doomslayer.
@Geozone117 brother humans in dmc are 9D as stated by the guides doomslayer is 5D💀
EVERY bring in dmc is conceptually on a higher plain
@@Geozone117 void mundus
Urizen
Mundus(base)
Pluto
Doomslayer has some better stats but he's largely outhaxxed. Loses to Dante with Royal Guard for sure
One thing I gotta say is that the Doom Slayer takes battle IQ. He was fighting in Argent for “Eons”. Also don’t forget his power ups from the games.
Epic vid👌
Great job chuck I agree with you on that doomslayer would win due to his feats and cosmology but I feel with gokus flight capability he could try to maneuver around but I wonder how a composite goku would fair and keep up the amazing work
I know I asked that already but I was wondering if you'd like to talk about a ygo gx character named Yubel. That character is interesting IMO because ygo is often an under estimated verse while it has some multiversal characters, characters who can cross galaxies in a few hours which makes them at least billions of times ftl. Reality warpers, mind manipulators etc ...
Even in the most recent anime there are some crazy feats like multiple galaxies crossed in some hours, planetary stuff, reality warping, pocket dimension, space-time alteration, time travel, possible time paradox immunity, possession, corruption, mind alteration, reality warping + mind alteration (to make people believe reality always worked that way), alteration of laws of physics etc ...
Yubel is possibly one of the strongest characters of ygo being multiversal, several octilions of times ftl (enough to cross the observable univers 80 millions of times per second), has tons of hax like extreme resistance to mind manipulation, acausality, conceptual existence, mid godly regen, reality warping (multiversal scale), mind manipulation that bypasses resistance to mind manipulation, soul manipulation, space manipulation, dimensional travel, teleportation (multiversal scale and it works on others as well), immunity to physical attacks, intangibility, pocket dimension creation etc ...
I'd like to suggest a possible 5-7 way brawl of armored figures 😁 A brawl between the following:
- Guyver-I (with his Gigantic upgrade)
- Kamen Rider
- Blue Beetle
- Iron Man
- Witchblade (Sara or Masane doesn't matter)
- one of the VR-Troopers
AND
- the strongest/powerful of the Power Rangers.
I'd add DOOM-Slayer, but he would be over kill 😂
Whenever someone mentions Arale I have to temporarily blind myself I swear
I see the argument against DS. But if he won, he would absorb Goku's strength making him able to punch through reality and knock out Saitama's writer.
Lmao
A brick layer isnt as strong as the wall he makes.
Why do people think creation equals creator has the same power as what it created?
Your example would only make sense if the character created it from their own life force. It's silly to think a character who literally created the fundamentals for existence itself wouldn't scale to it.
@@Chuckhe did it over time, not all at once. That's like saying you're city block because you can destroy an entire one for over the course of 5 years. You need to do it at a short amount of time or instantly.
Xeno Goku
Can use every ability via r>f or expand partner customisation
If we include all of his hax that just be over kill
As he can just summon beings like mechikabool(can bend reality it self at will)
Arale(insane gag power)
Zeno(idk but grand priest refers him as omnipotence)
Vegeta(on par with Goku power)
Super shenron(wishing power with no bounds)
True from tokitoki(basically a god god of time
Creator of history
Controller of fate etc)
Or any other characters that exist in sdbh
Plus he has multiple layers of immortality via zamasu immortality
Being able to bring himself back from the dead
Having auto recovery etc
Hey Chuck can you do a matchup for The Doom Slayer vs DOOMSDAY The New King of Hell.
i need a sonic video from you chuck
Great video chuck ✨,at their mid end scaling both super Goku and doomslayer are complex multiversal or 7d with immeasurable speed but i do think doomslayer would possibly win due to stamina with high diff but not say goku would not win, heroes Goku is comfortable in the high hyperversal tier even without the Arale scaling, but although the using Arale is still reasonable, it's just some are still trying to wrap their minds on how broken the dr slump cosmology is, many don't even know about dr slump.
So using the high ends, Goku would most likely win, due to heroes cosmology being more impressive than that of the doomverse, due to the fact that each universe in main line dragon ball super has super dimensions and they are infinite numbers of super dimensions due to infinite number of timelines and multiverse and meta fictional trancendance, demigra had to trancendend dimensions to acess beats world meaning a considerable amount of higher geometrical dimensions.
Doomsayer claps one shots blitzes regardless
Hes a krillin victim
Definitely one HELL of a fight😂😂😂
Next video: why master chief vs doomslayer oiled up twerk off isnt even close
Goku vs the antithesis of a god.
Consider trying megami tensei scaling. Those guys are nuts
Another awesome upload. Thanks for something to help pass some time at work. Haven't been able to stay in the live streams last few times (had a few life issues come up) but hope to chill with everyone this weekend. Thanks again Chuck have a great day man.
Thanks for the visit
A NEAT IDEA FOR A VIDEO WOULD BE TO SCALE MASTER WU AND THE GOLDEN WEAPONS!!!!!!!!!!!
Goku would probably get tired fighting the Slayer. It’s a guy with infinite stamina vs a guy with impressive stamina. Slayer’s durability will definitely also play into it
Yeah, the stamina is a difficult thing to overcome in this battle, but I think Goku has it with his hacks/abilities.
@@Chuck great battle tho!!!
Bro goku got that stamina too tho, unless he gets critically injured he stays fighting
@@jearbear750 his stamina is nowhere near the slayer my guy. This man fought for millions of years nonstop without getting tired. Goku gets exhausted fighting for more than a few days. Goku had to eat, Slayer does not. Goku still has mortal weaknesses, Slayer is literally a reincarnation of the guy who created his multiverse.
One does not simply defeat the slayer
this video is a goku fan magnet
give them a day and they'll start to flood in
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@@c.5978 how
Hey Chuck I would stay away from Meta outerversal scaling interpretations which have to objective foundation nor any proof behind them. They often take things out of context and use logic fallacies to infuse these false paradigms about a character and his verse. It has been extremely bad and prevalent across the powerscaling community for too many years now influencing people with false teachings. I would reject that stuff for sake of integrity and accuracy.
well id say goku wins very easily because since we are adding feats from heroes and xeno verse he has essientially a lot of broken hax like resisistance to plot manuipulation among a lot of other broken abilities..plus i saw something that he has Auto win...were he can straight up beat any opponenet regardless of power and hax
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Heya Chuck, consider scaling the megami tensei verse. They're some of my favorites and insanely powerful, should make for interesting videos and honestly should be able to pit them vs insanely broken characters like lucifer Morningstar for example.
Maybe a powerscaling video on TES would be interesting.
People sleep on that verse's power or either wank it too much with dubious information that is pretty much headcanon.
You think goku would tank a point blank BFG shot in the face ? Naw
In the novelization of the dbs broly movie when gogeta and broly were fighting they went to a super dimensional realm and shattered it. So Super Dimensional = Super Dimensions =Beyond The Order Of Dimensions = Beyond Higher Dimensionality = Beyond The Totality Of Higher Dimensions That's what we get.
Lmao
yo chuck what is the song at the end of the video? it sounds like playboi cart magnolia mixed with something else......
Metal Cooler by Multirex
@@Chuck appreciate that bro! i enjoy your vids.
Please make a video on how much powerful Legion is from Marvel Comics.
SCP 3812 VS the Scarlet King next? please?
Doom looks cooler than I thought it was. I didn't know there were other armor wearing maniacs in the verse
I guess we will never truly know who is first, huh...
Can you do a video of The Doom Slayer vs Doomsday The King of Hell(DC)
I think doom slayer nearly imploded a multiverse from battling
Doomslayer defeated davoth and after he beat em he wasnt even tired in anyway
6:54 Are there really infinite timelines of there are finite time rings?
Time rings represent altered/irregular changes in time, not all the timelines that exist in general.
The Khan's and demons can fly to, so can't use flight really as an advantage. And doom slayer has been fighting for eons, so idk who would have more battle iq
You should do dante vs doomslayer
Good vid
Thanks g
9D Dante vs 6D+ DOOMSLAYER is a sad DOOMSLAYER L.
@@weskintime4177 Dante doesnt scale anywhere close to outer goofy, Slayer stomps
@weskintime4177 stfu no he doesn't
@@weskintime4177 fake 9D scan
Goku in heros is crazy
As someone who isn't that into power scaling, can someone tell me what 4D and 5D are and how that can actually be measured in a fight.
How about Doomslayer VS Khorne?
LETS GO
Ngl, the gameverse solos the animeverse (gameverse got the motivational chair.)
Sukuna's Domain vs the Backyardigans.
It's basically like all characters vs. DBZ characters. If you take them at face value without any lore implications, they'll probably win unless its against someone who is extremely ridiculous.
Doomslayer armor is litterally impenetrable not only that but he is manipulating fate by simply existing. Doomslayer wins, multipliers doesn't mean goku wins. And before you ask Doomslayer does have a way to get damage on goku as he also has durability nullification. DOOMSLAYER IS IMMORTAL! and i hate to say it but goku is a one trick pony all he can really do is punch doomslayer and use Kamehameha on him but that wouldn't even work with doomslayers armor, i respect the effort of the scale but jut because goku has multipliers doesn't mean he wins as at the end of the day Doomslayer has shit in his arsenal that goku simply can't deal with.
Yeah chuck is gonna get debunked real fast.
Bro you know nothing about Goku.
How abot Doomslyer vs Godzilla in Hell? They might team up but like who will win in a fight?
Goku's one of the weirdest characters to scale. He has the power to delete planets and can shake universes and even the Multiverse, yet he can't breathe in space and would die in the vacuum if he accidently blows up the planet he's on. Like come on Torriyama! Make it make sense😂
he's drunk half of the time + now he's just getting to old.
@@rickydiscord7671 and he's gone
Rip Toriyama. Thank you for all this power through a low class warrior ❤
I remember someone said in one of the heroes games that goku at one point absorbed tori bots authors command powers and basically gains authority over his own story but i cant find the source for it. If its true how far do you think it scales him since it would put him above arale which tori bot wrote?
There are literal statements of hell is above the concept of dimensionality not just "boundaries" so yeah , Doomslayer is safely low outer, there are MWI, implicate order, fractal patterns and more evidence as well to put him in that tier.
He Destroys Goku