How This Drum Beat Changed Dance Music Forever
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
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From Charli XCX's Brat to Beyonce's Renaissance and even Donna Summer, you can't listen to dance music without hearing the "four-on-the-floor" beat. Dive into the beat that changed dance music forever with hosts Jojo Lorenzo and Linda Diaz as they explore this iconic rhythm and its impact on genres like disco, house, and pop.
From disco's golden era to its resurgence in modern pop, Jojo and Linda trace the four-on-the-floor pattern's journey through rock, funk, and beyond. They uncover how a beat popularized by drummer Earl Young set the stage for disco and its transformation through electronic instruments in house and techno. They also explore the rhythm's revival in nu-disco and its influence on contemporary pop music, examples from Beyoncé and Donna Summer highlight the beat's enduring legacy.
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I've been producing Sound Field for 5 years so it was really fun to step in front of the camera with Linda for the first time and talk about my favorite style of music: DANCE MUSIC! Thx for watching
Great video!
Hey Jojo, I met you in LA the Thursday before you played at Coachella. I was wondering why you knew your music so well and how you managed to blend tracks from different eras the way you do. You introduced me to your manager that night. Can't wait to have you come out and play for a show sometime! I'll try to catch you at the Fonda!
That's so far out that you worked with this channel! If you or Tinzo start making original house tracks maybe we can hope to get some keys from Nahre or bass from Adam ... 😊
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As a fellow producer great job ! You brought out the facts no bias and that is the most important part keeping the FACTS!
"and gave it platform shoes to rise above" - Admit it. Y'all loved writing that. 😂
Roland really deserves a ton of credit for their drum machines. The TR-808 and TR-909 are legendary, and helped make dance music and hip hop what it is today.
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Thanks for this. Fun to hear. I worked as a teenager in a discotheque in 1979. Next month I'm doing a mountain ultramarathon and have compiled a playlist of modern dance music slowed down to 116 bpm to help me power hike up the >20% inclines for hours. They all have this four-on-the-floor rhythm and I see now that is the magic ingredient.
Big props for mentioning Walter Gibbons!!! He's a very undersung tragic hero in dance music and pioneered so many things we take for granted.
One of my good friends was interviewed for the documentary that was mentioned at the end so I watched it months ago and yes it's one of the best documentaries about the real disco.
Now do one on the Amen Break
honestly there is already no sample in dance music that has been dissected and editorialized more than the amen break. the first short film documentary about it came out some time in the early 00s. thats not to say Sound Field can't present it in a unique way, but there are a BUNCH of other rocks to lift up and look underneath on this treasure hunt.
@@sweeterthananythingamen, brother
I have always loved the four on the floor beat. My particular branch has been the harder-edged, darker world of electronic industrial and EBM of the '90s and 2000s. It's largely a dead genre now but, I still love doing covers and remixes in that style.
Why is post-disco/garage always skipped over in docus like these? Technically, garage came before house, then the UK revolutionized it with the break beat and heavy swing. Also, almost none of these examples included an open 909 hi hat on the off beat, which is quite possibly the most recognized sound from house music. Fun video beyond that... just feels like a college mini presentation to experts on the subject, tho.
Garage before house? Never heard that one
@bruceswinford4901 it blew me away, too when I found out.
@@bruceswinford4901US Garage predated and heavily influenced what we now know as house music
Thanks for this primer for those interested. As a person who works primarily in the EDM/Electro-Weird genres, it's always great for some compassion.
Thanks for showcasing the four on the floor beat! One of my favorite drum beats that made me love dance music.
I wish you had connected this to Native American drumming, the original four on the floor
AH - HAH!!!
Techno, didn't.
Whole genre, called Tribal, dedicated 2 all da different typez of drumming & percussion, n different Tribez, around da world.
"Your Love" is a song by Jamie Principle... NOT Frankie Knuckles, although the later, was involved in the production.
Y'all gotta add some swing to your drums. House lives in the pocket
My favorite modern dance music genre is 90s Eurodance which is sometimes called Eurodisco in Europe itself. I produce my own dance music these days in my DAW, Cubase Pro.
I love 90s Eurodance too, it's so good
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I’ve been a professional classical musician (opera) for more than 30 years. I’ve studied a ton of theory. I have no earthly idea what the difference between "four to the floor" and "four on the floor" is. I wish you had included examples of what made the two things so different.
Jazz/funk/pop keys here. I've never heard the expression either, but I think he's distinguishing one of them as emphasizing one, the other keeps the volumes equal, like disco.
"Four on the floor" is used primarily within electronic dance music circles referring to the beat generally associated with disco, and more recently house.
I've heard this other phrase "four to the floor" but I don't know it's general usage. Obviously here they are indeed just distinguishing it from the beat with a kick on every quarter, but I have no idea how common this terminology is.
@@JeiElRaiyep 4/4 time signature with a kick on every beat.
Please release your track on RUclips or spotify! Its a banger!
Brat already iconic
I wish you guys would put the songs in the background in a list in the description.
Do you mean the songs we mention or the library music that plays in the background?
@@SoundFieldPBSsongs mentioned, like Frankie Knuckles.
@@SoundFieldPBS Both ideally.
idk why the year of the songs played are never mentioned or even added in post in these videos. Context and history are incredibly important!
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What a fun channel! 👏
@Diego Olivas, well written sir. @Linda and JoJo, well delivered. Thanks all.
A couple years ago a friend of mine asked me to remix one of his noise albums.
Couldn't resist a four on the floor for the title track.
IS THERE ANYTHING JOJO CANT DO????
Sandwiches?
BCR represent!
JOJO! Hell yeah
I'm into producing Goa Trance and Psychedelic Trance music, the classic four on the floor kick drum pattern is used a lot in those two genres.
Whoa I haven’t heard Jojo speak before! Love BCR
You guys should research bass drum "feathering". Four on the floor had been going on in jazz for ages.
Not 2 mention, da Circus nfluence, n much of Techno & Trance.
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Good info; it’s obscure, but I wish they had mentioned early 80s post disco that was centered in New York City. House, electro, techno, rap, hip-hop all developed there in the New York City area incubator, including Jersey, then spread to Chicago and Detroit. It was so underground that most miss this. Frankie knuckles for example, was actually a seasoned New York City DJ who brought the vibe to Chicago.
Oh my goodness. In the first few seconds of the video the question posed in the title is answered.
I think I should buy lottery tickets and stay indoors because I think this is a once in a lifetime experience
If you want to know more look up The Chosen Few DJ's
I can’t Belive you forget kraftwerk group
Four to the floor
Kindly demanding that you put that track at the end on soundcloud or Spotify pls 🤲🏽
The PBS video link seems not work or not to work in Europe. Shame. Good video, though.
I'd love to hear them cover Robert Wyatt.
Big band drummers played 4 on the floor during the Swing era
Hello fellow Ableton user.
Jojo!!
I'd love to see them cover motorik beat.
What's the track at 8:06?
Can you do a video on Gangsta Rap next?
What about the European parts in all this invention and music? It wasn't only these guys these years in the US.
Keep watching
I watched the whole video. @@SoundFieldPBS
I watched the whole video though?@@SoundFieldPBS
my question is where did the vocal sample come from ? is it AI? it sounds great at the beginning when Linda is singing it.
It's a vocal sample from Splice, not AI.
I might not have been paying enough attention, or maybe I was distracted by the high hats and such, but I couldn't hear the differences in beats. I found this more confusing than most.
Most of the music here focuses on how they all have the same 4 on the floor beat so they won't sound that different, which is the point they are making.
In this video if you want to compare to what is NOT 4 on the floor, listen to the background music at 0:54 specifically the kick drum. Isn't not on every beat (count to 4 and see the kick drum doesn't match up).
Compared to 3:46 where you see the kick drum hit every beat. If you count to 4, the kick drum hits everytime you say a number. 1,2,3,4 1,2,3,4
There were no “Grooveboxes” in the late 70s. The first Groovebox was the Roland MC-303 released in 1996. Unless you really stretch the definition to include the MC-202 from 1983.
The devices you pictured are not Grooveboxes. The Roland 303 and mini Moog are monophonic analog synthesizers, similar to what had existed since the 1960s. The tr-808 is a drum machine.
For something to be considered a Groovebox, it should be capable of producing a beat and melodic voice from the same machine
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I'm so sick of going to clubs and only hearing four on the floor. It works to get an audience dancing, but DJs and music producers have become so neurotic about avoiding a dead dance floor that they don't dare change things up so we have to hear it all night every night. Four on the floor will always have a place in American music, but there are so many other funky cool beats to explore.
Amen to that!
That's why we have drum and bass.
@@soaribb32 We need jungle I'm afraid
@@SoundFieldPBS YES! Mid to late 90s drum&bass was the peak of interesting, syncopated beats.
@@soaribb32 Drum and bass, etc. are just genres among the huge family of break beat genres. But also, we can dance on beats that are not breakbeats AND not four on the flour either.
Latinos changed american dance music through latin jazz 💃🏾
True
You really need to do an episode on the modern influence of polyrhythms and Meshuggah. Hit up Yogev Gabay from Time Consuming for insight. His channel is great!
I almost never use a true 4 on the floor beat
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Is Jojo doing OK?
There are way more unsung pioneers of 4 on the floor, this covers the mainstream- but it was more underground than this.
And “four to the floor” term does not exist in Google at least
Not mentioning Kraftwerk is just criminal.
Not many of Kraftwerk's early beats were 4-to-the-floor. They were more breakbeat and funk oriented.
At least CAN got a shout-out
They heavily nfluenced Juan Atkinz, da father of Techno. TECHNICOLOR without NUMBERZ, or TRANS EUROPE EXPRESS? I doubt it.
@@Einnor084 Yeah, (Detroit) Techno and Deep House is a fusion of Kraftwerk and Disco.
The first synthesizer dates back to the 1890's so one could technically say that electronic music started then. The Hammond organ was inspired by the Telharmonium invented by Thaddeus Cahill in 1897. Then Leon Theremin invented the Theremin in the 30's in the 40's in France there was musique concrete, in the 50's KarlheInz Stockhausen in Germany and in England came the BBC Radiophonic workshop most notably with Daphne Oram and Delia Derbyshire, in the 60's Don Buchla on the west coast and Bob Moog on the east coast with much assistance from Wendy Carlos at pretty much the same time developed the first truly intentionally designed musical instruments that generated tones via electric impulses with the ability to sculpt the sound with amp envelopes and filters. Keith Emerson was pretty much the first person to buy one from Bob Moog outside of the movie industry. In the 70's we get Roland, and between jazz funk, classic rock, funk, soul and disco every genre was using synthesis in their music.
Sorry but Little Richard’s Rock n Roll had bass drum every other beat and it’s a VERY important for the history
Revolutionary? Four-on-the-Floor was the basis of dance music in 1900-1950 (approx) Big bands relied on it, it wasn't until bebop threw off the steady pulse that pop music changed up. (Granted, the REST of the kit plays entirely differently today, but the heartbeat remains.)
It was revolutionary in the way it was done in Disco. I am glad to see another person see a connection with Disco and the Dance Band music earlier in the century.
You keep repeating the same information
The influence of Roland's 404 drum machine is also not unimportant, as it was the one that introduced the "heavier than reality" bass drum sound that is copied into almost all later synths.
You guys have a really refined and astute way of presenting this short and brief, although there is more to it when music was changed from 432 MHz to 440 MHz to mess the with the natural hear-beat of human life-forms, you know.
Anyhow. - Much appreciation for sharing your findings.
Beyonce couldn’t lift Donna Summer’s jacket.
I had a feeling IDM was a term more related to drum&bass and jungle music, not EDM.
I find it really funny that it takes tutorials for people to learn how to write a house beat. It's literally just a kick on every beat and a snare on every second... The best way to study how to write a good house beat is to go dancing
Your Info is ALL Wrong-when it come 2 "Your Love" which is by Jamie Principle Who Performed, Played All the Instruments ,Wrote & Co-Produced.(No Drum Machine Was Used!!!)
Wow what a horrible documentary, not a single mention about the Kraftwerk and New Order. The 2 band that had a very big contribution to the dance music. There were so many UK/European bands that helped the dance music. Please next time do some real research.
The day the music died.
Four on the floor, the big band swing rhythm that revolutionized dance music... a hundred years ago. This is a silly and inaccurate video
Can we please stop using the term IDM? It's 2024.
Why? If you're talking about baroque in 2024, do you not say "baroque"?
If anything, EBM was left out of the discussion.
Yeah, I get you, but the alternative takes much longer to say. Me in conversations: "Music like Aphex Twin or Autechre is what you'd call 'IDM' or 'Braindance' or 'experimental electronic dance music' or whatever else you want to call it."
American Dance Music...ok...
This is so poor. What a lack of history. Gen Z 😂
This whole presentation is hella disrespectful to House music! You can't convince me that this is not completely intentional! Just trying to figure out what the angle is here...Post-Disco?!?! FOH!
How do you mention Techno and then TRANCE before the Chicago House Music movement!!!??? And then skip straight to Beyonce. I'm not going to say what I really feel but DO BETTER!!!
We don’t, we talked about Chicago house before mentioning techno and trance.
Simple: to keep it short.
while the 70s introduced and then oversaturated the music scene ... the mid 80s to early 90s was where synth/dance disco put its stamp on music ... So how did you skip the most important segment with artists like Sylvester and then highlight of all people Beyonce for a disco track that meant nothing to true disco heads! Thats like saying the evolution of country ended with the creation of Beyonce's Texas Hold em song.
And why you had to plug this gender propaganda in the end? Is it related to Disco?
Using $8K of DJ gear to demonstrate a beat by manually triggering a kick with a hot cue is a bizarre choice. It's just funny, because the video has high production quality in most ways. It's a lovely mini-documentary full of historic music references. But the video has a clickbait title, and they don't even put any effort into showing the BEAT THAT CHANGED DANCE MUSIC FOREVER that they baited people with.
I assume they didn't want to show the screen because they didn't want to show that it was just some random track with a kick. But the screen on a CDJ-3000 looks pretty awesome. It would be the simplest Ableton project ever to make a 4-on-the-floor kick beat. Then you could show the kick waveform on the CDJ. Or show it in a DAW, or a drum machine (or VST), or show some drum notation sheet music. Whatever. But it's weird to avoid showing the screen when you demo the thing.
It's extra funny that the thumbnail shows the kick waveform but that's not actually in the video.
Absolute nonsense
Umm …four on the floor goes back to early days of jazz (the original dance music) and it’s probably the first swing beat you learn when you start learning that style but other than that great vid
I'm into producing Goa Trance and Psychedelic Trance music, the classic four on the floor kick drum pattern is used a lot in those two genres.
You guys have a really refined and astute way of presenting this short and brief, although there is more to it when music was changed from 432 MHz to 440 MHz to mess the with the natural hear-beat of human life-forms, you know.
Anyhow. - Much appreciation for sharing your findings.
Purely wrong.
@@Gazeld - what is? Can you get more specific? Are you talking about their presentation or are you doubting the change in speed of music in ref. to the MHz?