I am made about that to and now i am spaming the comment section with my comment about that 😁 First of all: The e-tron is 4,90 meter long and 1,94 m wide, the mach-e is 4,71 m long and 1,88 m wide. They are NOT in the same class. Also if you compare the e-tron with the mach-e 4x you have to choose the 55. That car costs 79.000 Euro in germany, the mach-e 63.000 Euro. And if you want the same specs like the mach-e the e-tron costs about 90.000 Euro! Then the interiour. The e-tron 50 is much cheaper inside then the mach-e. You have to order the premium trim if you want nice matirial. About the ride for now i cannot say anything. I have not driven the mach-e. But this is the only jounalist on youtube, that thinks the ride of the mach-e ist bad...... i am looking forward to drive a mach-e to see if he is the one who is right 🙄
Yes i see what your saying and your right, if you can afford 60k on a ford 80k on an audi is always going to be a better deal, and if you can afford 60k on a car why buy a ford?
AWD and bigger battery is £57k on Ford's website with 335 miles range. Cheapest Audi e-Tron is £61.5k and has 249 mile range. Cheapest BMW 1X3 is £62k and has 285 mile range. I'm sorry but I don't see how you can credibly compare the three cars - unless you're only interested in the badge.
This video is clearly not well researched. He kept comparing those vehicles to this one like they were equal in price. He also quoted the 0-60 time of the Mach-E as 5.8 seconds when its really 4.8.
I've just sat in one at a roadshow in Cambridge. Internally, it felt excellent. It's not an i-pace (which I like better) but Extended Range comes in at a significantly lower price. If I had the money for an AWD ER I'd push myself for an i-pace but I don't - so I think this is the best compromise (and anyway has a better range). The door handles wouldn't be my choice but I'm sure I could get used to them. Glad you had an Infinite Blue - which I have not yet seen in person. I'm very tempted.
Why does he constantly only compare the Mach E to the Jaguar, BMW, and Audi when it's most direct competitor is the Model Y which it does a terrific job matching/approaching specs and pricing with? Probably the only person with a negative review of this car I've seen. It looks like a terrific EV.
Slightly biased review ain't it So you're comparing electric cars by its price... when the biggest cost is the electrical group+Batteries. So it isn't as fancy/plush as the Bimmer or the Audi... but it lasts twice at the same cost So try the opposite. Put the same electrical system+batteries on the BMW or the Audi and compare its costs! audi/BM became how much? 80K? 90K? 100K? Why didn't you compare it with the real competitor... Tesla model X (or Y if you wan't to keep it biased) P.S. - I'm a Bimmer fan and owner
Thanks for that comment. And how does he now what the iX3 will be like? Did he drive it then? I am ab Bimmer fan too, but that is bad journalism. So i spam the comment section with this comment 😁 First of all: The e-tron is 4,90 meter long and 1,94 m wide, the mach-e is 4,71 m long and 1,88 m wide. They are NOT in the same class. Also if you compare the e-tron with the mach-e 4x you have to choose the 55. That car costs 79.000 Euro in germany, the mach-e 63.000 Euro. And if you want the same specs like the mach-e the e-tron costs about 90.000 Euro! Then the interiour. The e-tron 50 is much cheaper inside then the mach-e. You have to order the premium trim if you want nice matirial. About the ride for now i cannot say anything. I have not driven the mach-e. But this is the only jounalist on youtube, that thinks the ride of the mach-e ist bad...... i am looking forward to drive a mach-e to see if he is the one who is right 🙄
So, you make several references to the BMW iX3 regarding right quality. But i can‘t find a testdrive of the BMW in your account!? Is it just the general perception of US cars in europe. The US and candian Testers are more lucky with the MMEs ridequality.
exactly. And there are other comparisons i dont understand: First of all: The e-tron is 4,90 meter long and 1,94 m wide, the mach-e is 4,71 m long and 1,88 m wide. They are NOT in the same class. Also if you compare the e-tron with the mach-e 4x you have to choose the 55. That car costs 79.000 Euro in germany, the mach-e 63.000 Euro. And if you want the same specs like the mach-e the e-tron costs about 90.000 Euro! Then the interiour. The e-tron 50 is much cheaper inside then the mach-e. You have to order the premium trim if you want nice matirial. About the ride for now i cannot say anything. I have not driven the mach-e. But this is the only jounalist on youtube, that thinks the ride of the mach-e ist bad...... i am looking forward to drive a mach-e to see if he is the one who is right 🙄
Every comment is prefaced with a negative, biased in almost every single feature you point out to highlight. Reviewers are always the same with Ford's, then Ford will go out sell every other car in the same segment
Thanks for mention that. But this is not the only think i cannot understand: First of all: The e-tron is 4,90 meter long and 1,94 m wide, the mach-e is 4,71 m long and 1,88 m wide. They are NOT in the same class. Also if you compare the e-tron with the mach-e 4x you have to choose the 55. That car costs 79.000 Euro in germany, the mach-e 63.000 Euro. And if you want the same specs like the mach-e the e-tron costs about 90.000 Euro! Then the interiour. The e-tron 50 is much cheaper inside then the mach-e. You have to order the premium trim if you want nice material. About the ride for now i cannot say anything. I have not driven the mach-e. But this is the only jounalist on youtube, that thinks the ride of the mach-e ist bad...... i am looking forward to drive a mach-e to see if he is the one who is right 🙄
@@MichaelSchmittBEN well I have not driven the etron but I have driven the Mach e and it rides just awesome, and it has a very sporty feeling. Takes the corner in a way which is hard to believe considering its weight (around 2 tons). I was not expecting that and surprised me a lot. It surprised to me and to all of the journalists I have watched. This bloke is a hater, really.
@@AlbertArrabal Dont get me wrong. I drove the e-tron 50 over 3.000 Kilometer in 2 days. It is a really good car. But it cost a lot more, is much bigger and has al much lower fange. So i dont get how someone can talk the Mach-E down like in this video. Thanks for your impressions of the mach-e. Cant wait to get one for a testride. Doug DeMuro was very impressed how the Mach-E drives!
@@MichaelSchmittBEN Yes I can imagine the etron is a very good car too! But it is not the rival for the mach e... Have a look at the review from the guys of Car Throttle ;)
Totally agree. I think ive seen almost every youtube video on this car and everyone seems to like it, especially handling and driving - what used to be and still is - Fords strength.
You didn't mention that the rear doors open slightly to wedge your hand in when opening, HOWEVER; Ford designed them so that once they've opened them slightly, you can't close them unless you open the door fully. This is to prevent having your hand crushed while reaching in to open the door. I just bought this car and it is incredible!!! The build quality alone makes the tesla look like a moving toilet. With regards to the plushness of the interior, go ahead and enjoy the BMW and Audi... I'll wave as I pass by.
Its a good looking car, had the boot been a bit larger I would have been tempted to put in an order. Model S goes further with wltp of over 400. The model 3 will go further at motorway speeds as it has a smaller front end and better aerodynamics with a similar range. All reports have said that the range isn't as good as the numbers on the Mach E but it is a blast to drive. This review says the opposite! Either way the range hit and price increase for the 4wd is massive so might as well order one of the rear wheel drives. Sadly the standard range is quite spartan and misses out on: Full panoramic Roof, - B&O 10 Speaker Sound System, - Hands free tailgate, - Advanced Active Park Assist with 360˚ camera, - 8 Way Power Memory front seats, - Power foldable door mirrors. IF you can live without this tech then save £10,000 and buy the RWD standard range.
Official range of the Tesla Model S is over 400 miles - further than the Mustang. I like the looks of the Mustang given that it is an SUV and way too big for my needs. The base model is better value but still has the usual EV problem of costing way more than a traditional car (I know running costs are lower but the depreciation will still cost way more than the cost of running a five to ten year old car as most people do). I might be interested in a used one when it is five years old and a lot cheaper to buy (the only problem is by then batteries may be lighter making this feel cumbersome).
Rear headroom is compromised by an opening sunroof but is not by merely a glass ceiling. Why is it even suggested to keep the charge lead under the floor. Surely it's fairly rarely used, and if required it's likely to be on a journey with a boot full of luggage. The pick of the range you mentioned - how much?
I don't know why you avoided mentioning the Model Y. Seeing as this is almost identical in price and size with similar performance. IMO the Mach-e wins on looks, meets the specs of the Y on performance specs (although bigger battery for less range is not ideal), and loses on tech/infotainment. Based on my use case I'd put Ford slightly higher on my list than the Tesla but it really is very close.
Their all going in the shifter as soon as Berlin opens up and produces the model Y with the 4680 cells, not to mention the smaller cars the set to manufacture.
@@robintaylor1490 the model Y is too big to sell in huge numbers in Europe. It might be aspirational, but smaller cheaper cars will top the sales figures. If Tesla release one of those then yes, the very obvious advantage of superchargers alone should do the trick. Let's face it,other networks are patchy on reliability at best.
@@TheAegisClaw a few months ago on battery day Elon Musk released that they will be manufacturing a smaller car different variants out of the Berlin gigafactory. With the 4680 cells and full self-driving.
First of all: The e-tron is 4,90 meter long and 1,94 m wide, the mach-e is 4,71 m long and 1,88 m wide. They are NOT in the same class. Also if you compare the e-tron with the mach-e 4x you have to choose the 55. That car costs 79.000 Euro in germany, the mach-e 63.000 Euro. And if you want the same specs like the mach-e the e-tron costs about 90.000 Euro! Then the interiour. The e-tron 50 is much cheaper inside then the mach-e. You have to order the premium trim if you want nice matirial. About the ride for now i cannot say anything. I have not driven the mach-e. But this is the only jounalist on youtube, that thinks the ride of the mach-e ist bad...... i am looking forward to drive a mach-e to see if he is the one who is right 🙄 And did you drive the iX3? If not, how do you know about that car?
Specced a rear-wheel-drive vehicle with extended battery on the web site, it's £47k. This seems like a decent rival to a Tesla Model 3 given that the Model Y will not be available in the UK any time soon.
I’m not sure your prices are right, fords told me today the GT version will be around £60k or more and there’s 3 versions of this Mach e with prices ranging from £40k -£50k and can only be purchased online at the moment . Which is a bit bizarre if you ask me, I’d definitely want to see before I buy. Also dealerships at the moment are only getting to have a demo car for one day only . I can’t even get to view as no appointments in my area
@@xsforreal Tesla has the best software and actually overdeliver on performance (range and acceleration) and have by far the best supercharging network, which is a pretty big deal for pure EVs, especially ones that don't hit their range estimates and in cold European weather (the Mach E has no heat pump). They also have more reliable batteries (200+k miles) that don't degrade as much over time and way better resale...
In the EPA test the Mach-E RWD Extended range (98kWh battery) achieves 300 miles (combined cycle) that magically become 379 miles in the WLTP cycle. I don't know about you but i'm personally more inclined to believe the EPA range. I like the line but I don't like the whole line it feels more like a sedan on heels , in fact looking at the internal space it can't see how this would be an SUV. The battery in the extended range is 9*8*kWh gross (88 useable) and the 0-62 for the ER RWD is 7.0 (5.8 is for the AWD) and the highest range EV in Europe is the Model S (405 miles WLTP range, 402 EPA range)
@@AW-ff6jz if you google the colour it looks the same. Haven’t seen a blue one kicking around. All of the cars at the time the film was shot were grey or red
The car looks amazing, whilst Audi Etron might have the badge there is nothing inside the car which differentiates it and makes is look and feel like an electric vehicle. The mustang does look futuristic inside and the styling outside looks impressive. The range is the game changer for me and i am ordering one. The first time i am moving from a German car (Merc/BMW/Audi)and my current Italian Ghibli in years.
They won't. Having bought an EV from a legacy manufacturer and dealership. It is an good thing that they aren't selling them at normal dealerships. Most Legacy dealerships don't want to sell or deal with EV. I got lucky but it still wasn't an easy process.
No coverage of the (coming via software update) self-driving features? I think that's important to a lot of people (having had OpenPilot running in my '17 Chevy Volt for well over two years I will NEVER buy a car or truck that does not have at least Level 2 driving, or can’t have it added later). I think most will really like the using their cell phone for the key (that you skimmed over), and all the features the phone app offers that you didn't cover at all. Also almost no coverage of all the features of the car accessible through the center display. "150kw chargers are still pretty rare"??? Thats not the Mustang Mach-E's fault, and it's also a pretty moot point, as most people charge at home and will not even need big fast chargers (let alone 150kw!!) most of the time, and more and more big (even 150kw) fast chargers will appear over the next few years. “Here’s the problem for the Mach-E, you can have a choice of two batteries…” eeeee, that’s not a “problem” LOL, having choice is “great”!! Also no mention of the GT performance version. I think you seemed overly negative on the Mach-E, and did not even cover a lot of the cars best features!! I think the “USP” of the car is the incredible range + all the tech (most of which you didn’t even cover).
So this is a reworked Focus platform. And hasn't ford done a deal to use the VW MEB platform? I'm a bit confused as they're roughly the same size, but this Mach-e shows Ford doesn't need the MEB? Or have I missed something? If anyone can explain I'd be grateful
This is not using a reworked version of the Focus/Kuga/Escape platform. Its a completely different dedicated EV platform. You can find videos of Ford engineers giving interviews talking about that. Its just one of many factual errors in this poorly done video.
I don't know how Ford is going to sell a 250+ Mile range Electric when they won't even stand behind a 20 Mile range 2013 Ford CMAX Energi. My hybrid battery failed after 87K miles and 11 days out of warranty. My dealer wants $15,000 to replace it. Take a lesson from me. Ford will not stand behind their engineering and quality! That is why Tesla will eat their lunch in the Electric vehicles. My service guy says Ford is expecting the New Electric Mustang to drop 30% in value the first year-- because it's a Ford. I spent $38,000 on my Ford CMAX and Ford would only give me $2,000 as a trade in! That is $0.41/mile depreciation! Something is wrong with Ford!
He doesn't know that the inner rubber for opening the door is for, Ford has clearly indicated that with their studies, they found that people open the car always by grabbinng the inner , and it helps children and all heights to open and close.
But really only the model y is a competitor as the merc and etron and I pace have 100miles less than the best Mach-e The ix3 about 200 in the real world
Here in Canada, the Mustang in the long range AWD version is easily $20-30k (and often $40k) cheaper than the e-tron or i-pace. It's crazy that they're on par price-wise in the UK.
Really tempting price 40k -57k 😂is that ford trying to get people to buy them.if you're poor you'll be definitely paying that off for a. Couple of years
Just saw few US reviews and all editors were impressed about how it drives, handles. Only way to find out - give it a go when possible :)....and they claim up to 300 miles od range - WLTP once again - too much optimism !!:)
Price isn't that bad if you consider that the competition is around 10-15K more expensive at least. Plus, you only get an electric car for the tax benefits anyway.
@@stephans1990 you're right about the tax benefits but branding is the issue, guess that's why ford have tried to shift it to a mustang brand...not sure that'll work when up against Audi, Tesla, Jaguar etc
To be honest the Mach e gets bashed alot. But the funny part is the Mach e rwd long range real weakness is the slow charging speed and the heat pump but it still gives you more range during winter than ev6 and a Tesla y. Yeah sure the Mach e comes with smaller rims but in the summer it beats both MY and EV6. Etron comparison is a joke.
So far does seem pretty promising as far slightly over priced mainstream E-suv can be. Think it will do well for Ford. It may not be the best or worst, it seems to sit in the middle and Ford are probably counting on that. However can we please stop comparing any tablet style infotainment screen and minimalistic interior as influenced by Tesla, its not just Tesla that does these kinds of interiors, they all do tablet style touch screen and sadly no buttons ( bring back physical buttons!) They are probably more influenced by touch screen tablet and mobile phones that everyone and their granny has at home and is familiar with rather than Tesla.
@@RobbieFitzgerald No electric vehicle does under usual driving habits. But the rates range can be achieved under ideal weather conditions and no steep hill climbing, tame acceleration, etc.
1) Why are most of the views of the boot of these reviews so dark, just use spot metering! 2) The caption Speed ~150KW is not a speed, it's just a figure, you need time for a speed or rate.
Yeah, Mach-e can charge with 150kw. Tesla Model Y can charge with 250kw. Mach-E will get 58 miles of range in 10 minutes of charging. Tesla Model Y gets 150 MILES of range in 10 minutes of charging. Mach-E is very inefficient car !
it's ridiculously hard to put the cost down because of the battery. that's why Tesla will blow away competition because of their ability to keep the cost down while increasing the range. But this is a worthy competitor. Model Y starts at 50k u.s. and the base mach E starts at 45k.
@@joec.5009 yeah but that 45k mache isn’t available yet, is only rear drive and only gets like 200 miles of range. It is massively non competitive with the model y when priced the same or cheaper. Looks good though.
Don't know why you think it's not good to have a rear door handle grasp. Learn a new hand movement. Press button, door opens, hand in space and pull. So simple. Don't live in the past. Embrace new methods.
@@kevinn1158 Pass Manual is pointless on very powerful fast cars. Keep Manual for Light Weight sub 1200kg Petrol Cars. Maximum torque 300lb/ft. BEVs not doing that anytime soon. Entirely different ball game.
That is not an actual display that moves that is how the car tracks your eyes for the self driving system that has not been released yet. The display is stationary.
How can something that big stuck on the dashboard be safe, it's like having a supersized cellphone there, stupid 😔 Are we supposed to let the auto-braking feature to save us here and us I mean the other drivers, don't care about the person driving this "thing"😤
You can either spend 50+K on a Tesla and be considered cool by most people or you can spend 50+K on this and have everyone with the slightest bit of car sense laugh at you, because you drive a fake Mustang. Take your pick.
Who is LYING here, you, Ford or someone from Ford told you to say that ? Mach-E Long Range is using 88kw battery and will get 270 miles EPA range. Tesla Model Y gets 75kw battery with 326 miles of range. That's 15% less battery to be charged with 20% more range for Tesla Model Y. Mach-E charging with 150kw, which is terrible slow and BAD. Tesla Model Y charging with 250kw. Mach-E gets 58 MILES of range in 10 minutes of charging. Tesla Model Y gets 150 MILES of range in 10 minutes of charging. That means that Mach E is LESS efficient car than TESLA MODEL Y by MORE than 50% !! That's reality!
Cheapest E-tron is 70k and the one with the same range is about 80 so not really competitor to Mach E
Exactly! What’s he banging on about
I am made about that to and now i am spaming the comment section with my comment about that 😁
First of all: The e-tron is 4,90 meter long and 1,94 m wide, the mach-e is 4,71 m long and 1,88 m wide. They are NOT in the same class. Also if you compare the e-tron with the mach-e 4x you have to choose the 55. That car costs 79.000 Euro in germany, the mach-e 63.000 Euro. And if you want the same specs like the mach-e the e-tron costs about 90.000 Euro!
Then the interiour. The e-tron 50 is much cheaper inside then the mach-e. You have to order the premium trim if you want nice matirial.
About the ride for now i cannot say anything. I have not driven the mach-e. But this is the only jounalist on youtube, that thinks the ride of the mach-e ist bad...... i am looking forward to drive a mach-e to see if he is the one who is right 🙄
I've not heard any reviews praising the e-tron's handling?
Yes i see what your saying and your right, if you can afford 60k on a ford 80k on an audi is always going to be a better deal, and if you can afford 60k on a car why buy a ford?
E-Tron needs to get it together. To expensive and not enough range
AWD and bigger battery is £57k on Ford's website with 335 miles range.
Cheapest Audi e-Tron is £61.5k and has 249 mile range.
Cheapest BMW 1X3 is £62k and has 285 mile range.
I'm sorry but I don't see how you can credibly compare the three cars - unless you're only interested in the badge.
This video is clearly not well researched. He kept comparing those vehicles to this one like they were equal in price. He also quoted the 0-60 time of the Mach-E as 5.8 seconds when its really 4.8.
The volume dial is brilliant. BYD uses a rotating screen which would have been perfect for this. Love the car interior, I am shortlisting it.
Here in the States we get a $7500 credit for it.
I would actually argue that the volume adjustment is very important. If I had to have just one dial it would be the volume
I said the same thing to her 😎
@@goochigoochs3836 That's what he said.
There is volume adjustment on the steering wheel. Only reason for the knob is for the passenger.
I've just sat in one at a roadshow in Cambridge. Internally, it felt excellent. It's not an i-pace (which I like better) but Extended Range comes in at a significantly lower price. If I had the money for an AWD ER I'd push myself for an i-pace but I don't - so I think this is the best compromise (and anyway has a better range). The door handles wouldn't be my choice but I'm sure I could get used to them. Glad you had an Infinite Blue - which I have not yet seen in person. I'm very tempted.
WLTP is pants. Knock 20% off.
and as i realized over the years, WLTP x 0.85= real range, specially in the winters i calculate 0.8.
Depends on the aerodynamics a lot. Our e-208 does about 130/140 miles at 65/70mph in winter. WLTP is 211.
@@TheRichardHonor try shitty tarmac in Sweden along with cold temperatures 😂
@roadking080161 it's too bad the MG isn't offered in Sweden, i think it would shake things up since most families love estates here.
Why does he constantly only compare the Mach E to the Jaguar, BMW, and Audi when it's most direct competitor is the Model Y which it does a terrific job matching/approaching specs and pricing with? Probably the only person with a negative review of this car I've seen. It looks like a terrific EV.
As he said at the beginning, at the time the Model Y hadn't released yet
Want to see real on the road mileage think fords are on the up....it looks good
Slightly biased review ain't it
So you're comparing electric cars by its price... when the biggest cost is the electrical group+Batteries.
So it isn't as fancy/plush as the Bimmer or the Audi... but it lasts twice at the same cost
So try the opposite. Put the same electrical system+batteries on the BMW or the Audi and compare its costs! audi/BM became how much? 80K? 90K? 100K?
Why didn't you compare it with the real competitor... Tesla model X (or Y if you wan't to keep it biased)
P.S. - I'm a Bimmer fan and owner
Thanks for that comment. And how does he now what the iX3 will be like? Did he drive it then? I am ab Bimmer fan too, but that is bad journalism. So i spam the comment section with this comment 😁
First of all: The e-tron is 4,90 meter long and 1,94 m wide, the mach-e is 4,71 m long and 1,88 m wide. They are NOT in the same class. Also if you compare the e-tron with the mach-e 4x you have to choose the 55. That car costs 79.000 Euro in germany, the mach-e 63.000 Euro. And if you want the same specs like the mach-e the e-tron costs about 90.000 Euro!
Then the interiour. The e-tron 50 is much cheaper inside then the mach-e. You have to order the premium trim if you want nice matirial.
About the ride for now i cannot say anything. I have not driven the mach-e. But this is the only jounalist on youtube, that thinks the ride of the mach-e ist bad...... i am looking forward to drive a mach-e to see if he is the one who is right 🙄
So, you make several references to the BMW iX3 regarding right quality. But i can‘t find a testdrive of the BMW in your account!?
Is it just the general perception of US cars in europe. The US and candian Testers are more lucky with the MMEs ridequality.
exactly. And there are other comparisons i dont understand: First of all: The e-tron is 4,90 meter long and 1,94 m wide, the mach-e is 4,71 m long and 1,88 m wide. They are NOT in the same class. Also if you compare the e-tron with the mach-e 4x you have to choose the 55. That car costs 79.000 Euro in germany, the mach-e 63.000 Euro. And if you want the same specs like the mach-e the e-tron costs about 90.000 Euro!
Then the interiour. The e-tron 50 is much cheaper inside then the mach-e. You have to order the premium trim if you want nice matirial.
About the ride for now i cannot say anything. I have not driven the mach-e. But this is the only jounalist on youtube, that thinks the ride of the mach-e ist bad...... i am looking forward to drive a mach-e to see if he is the one who is right 🙄
Every comment is prefaced with a negative, biased in almost every single feature you point out to highlight. Reviewers are always the same with Ford's, then Ford will go out sell every other car in the same segment
An excellent comment.
This must be the very only journalist who doesn't like this car...
Thanks for mention that. But this is not the only think i cannot understand: First of all: The e-tron is 4,90 meter long and 1,94 m wide, the mach-e is 4,71 m long and 1,88 m wide. They are NOT in the same class. Also if you compare the e-tron with the mach-e 4x you have to choose the 55. That car costs 79.000 Euro in germany, the mach-e 63.000 Euro. And if you want the same specs like the mach-e the e-tron costs about 90.000 Euro!
Then the interiour. The e-tron 50 is much cheaper inside then the mach-e. You have to order the premium trim if you want nice material.
About the ride for now i cannot say anything. I have not driven the mach-e. But this is the only jounalist on youtube, that thinks the ride of the mach-e ist bad...... i am looking forward to drive a mach-e to see if he is the one who is right 🙄
@@MichaelSchmittBEN well I have not driven the etron but I have driven the Mach e and it rides just awesome, and it has a very sporty feeling. Takes the corner in a way which is hard to believe considering its weight (around 2 tons). I was not expecting that and surprised me a lot. It surprised to me and to all of the journalists I have watched. This bloke is a hater, really.
@@AlbertArrabal Dont get me wrong. I drove the e-tron 50 over 3.000 Kilometer in 2 days. It is a really good car. But it cost a lot more, is much bigger and has al much lower fange. So i dont get how someone can talk the Mach-E down like in this video.
Thanks for your impressions of the mach-e. Cant wait to get one for a testride. Doug DeMuro was very impressed how the Mach-E drives!
@@MichaelSchmittBEN Yes I can imagine the etron is a very good car too! But it is not the rival for the mach e... Have a look at the review from the guys of Car Throttle ;)
Totally agree. I think ive seen almost every youtube video on this car and everyone seems to like it, especially handling and driving - what used to be and still is - Fords strength.
The 379 mile range is only available on the 2WD extended range models, which cost from £47k for a low spec and slow performance model 🤔🤯
You didn't mention that the rear doors open slightly to wedge your hand in when opening, HOWEVER; Ford designed them so that once they've opened them slightly, you can't close them unless you open the door fully. This is to prevent having your hand crushed while reaching in to open the door. I just bought this car and it is incredible!!! The build quality alone makes the tesla look like a moving toilet. With regards to the plushness of the interior, go ahead and enjoy the BMW and Audi... I'll wave as I pass by.
Cheaper version is where the money is on this one (40K). If you don't need SUV get the Model 3 SR+, if you need an SUV get this.
Still can't get over the fact that cars cost 40-50k new and the interior quality is that dreadful. It's not on.
Watched 5 reviews on this car from all over the world. You are the only one that doesn't really like it? Everyone else thinks its a great car.
Its a good looking car, had the boot been a bit larger I would have been tempted to put in an order. Model S goes further with wltp of over 400. The model 3 will go further at motorway speeds as it has a smaller front end and better aerodynamics with a similar range. All reports have said that the range isn't as good as the numbers on the Mach E but it is a blast to drive. This review says the opposite! Either way the range hit and price increase for the 4wd is massive so might as well order one of the rear wheel drives. Sadly the standard range is quite spartan and misses out on: Full panoramic Roof, - B&O 10 Speaker Sound System, - Hands free tailgate, - Advanced Active Park Assist with 360˚ camera, - 8 Way Power Memory front seats, - Power foldable door mirrors.
IF you can live without this tech then save £10,000 and buy the RWD standard range.
Looks a great car , but if only available to order on line and Ford dealerships not having it , how can you test drive before you buy?
You have to cholse a Dealer during ordering online. So you can also testdrive a MME at the dealer.
Official range of the Tesla Model S is over 400 miles - further than the Mustang. I like the looks of the Mustang given that it is an SUV and way too big for my needs. The base model is better value but still has the usual EV problem of costing way more than a traditional car (I know running costs are lower but the depreciation will still cost way more than the cost of running a five to ten year old car as most people do). I might be interested in a used one when it is five years old and a lot cheaper to buy (the only problem is by then batteries may be lighter making this feel cumbersome).
Rear headroom is compromised by an opening sunroof but is not by merely a glass ceiling. Why is it even suggested to keep the charge lead under the floor. Surely it's fairly rarely used, and if required it's likely to be on a journey with a boot full of luggage. The pick of the range you mentioned - how much?
I don't know why you avoided mentioning the Model Y. Seeing as this is almost identical in price and size with similar performance. IMO the Mach-e wins on looks, meets the specs of the Y on performance specs (although bigger battery for less range is not ideal), and loses on tech/infotainment. Based on my use case I'd put Ford slightly higher on my list than the Tesla but it really is very close.
Because Model Y doesn't exist in the UK yet.
Their all going in the shifter as soon as Berlin opens up and produces the model Y with the 4680 cells, not to mention the smaller cars the set to manufacture.
@@robintaylor1490 the model Y is too big to sell in huge numbers in Europe. It might be aspirational, but smaller cheaper cars will top the sales figures. If Tesla release one of those then yes, the very obvious advantage of superchargers alone should do the trick. Let's face it,other networks are patchy on reliability at best.
@@TheAegisClaw a few months ago on battery day Elon Musk released that they will be manufacturing a smaller car different variants out of the Berlin gigafactory. With the 4680 cells and full self-driving.
@@robintaylor1490 yes, but that's years and years away.
Could’ve done without the poop smudged on the door sill
First of all: The e-tron is 4,90 meter long and 1,94 m wide, the mach-e is 4,71 m long and 1,88 m wide. They are NOT in the same class. Also if you compare the e-tron with the mach-e 4x you have to choose the 55. That car costs 79.000 Euro in germany, the mach-e 63.000 Euro. And if you want the same specs like the mach-e the e-tron costs about 90.000 Euro!
Then the interiour. The e-tron 50 is much cheaper inside then the mach-e. You have to order the premium trim if you want nice matirial.
About the ride for now i cannot say anything. I have not driven the mach-e. But this is the only jounalist on youtube, that thinks the ride of the mach-e ist bad...... i am looking forward to drive a mach-e to see if he is the one who is right 🙄
And did you drive the iX3? If not, how do you know about that car?
Specced a rear-wheel-drive vehicle with extended battery on the web site, it's £47k.
This seems like a decent rival to a Tesla Model 3 given that the Model Y will not be available in the UK any time soon.
Model Y will be available in 2021 with the 4680 cells and fsd.
Push the volume knob twice and you get a Calm Screen...That's why it's a little loose..
Ford please please bring the light interior option to Europe and the U.K., it looks so much better than the black/red combination
I’m not sure your prices are right, fords told me today the GT version will be around £60k or more and there’s 3 versions of this Mach e with prices ranging from £40k -£50k and can only be purchased online at the moment . Which is a bit bizarre if you ask me, I’d definitely want to see before I buy. Also dealerships at the moment are only getting to have a demo car for one day only . I can’t even get to view as no appointments in my area
Seems like a good car overall, just not premium enough for the high prices
That’s the problem with electric cars at the moment. About 15-20% too much. But that will change in a few years
Tesla also isn't really that premium, yet people still like those. This car will do fine. They styling is better imo
@@xsforreal Tesla has the best software and actually overdeliver on performance (range and acceleration) and have by far the best supercharging network, which is a pretty big deal for pure EVs, especially ones that don't hit their range estimates and in cold European weather (the Mach E has no heat pump). They also have more reliable batteries (200+k miles) that don't degrade as much over time and way better resale...
Thanks for a good, through evaluation. I learned quite a bit about the car and how to choose the best deal, well done and thank you.
Oh, got it. This video was shot back in the day, ford just didn't allow to release it until now.
Upcoming model Y threw me off guard a little bit.
Nah he's a UK reviewer, where the Model Y is still unavailable
In the EPA test the Mach-E RWD Extended range (98kWh battery) achieves 300 miles (combined cycle) that magically become 379 miles in the WLTP cycle. I don't know about you but i'm personally more inclined to believe the EPA range.
I like the line but I don't like the whole line it feels more like a sedan on heels , in fact looking at the internal space it can't see how this would be an SUV.
The battery in the extended range is 9*8*kWh gross (88 useable) and the 0-62 for the ER RWD is 7.0 (5.8 is for the AWD) and the highest range EV in Europe is the Model S (405 miles WLTP range, 402 EPA range)
But the AWD I Pace with 100 miles less range is £66k!!!
Meanwhile over at J.D. Power's HQ...
- Who won the Best Door Handle Design award last year?
- Sir, we don't have that award yet.
- Hold my 🍺!
Your numbers are incorrect. The Mach-E can do 0-60 in 4.8 seconds.
building a car without door handles, given that the doors do not operate independently, is like going back in the evolution..
Is this car color the Infinite blue metallic or the carbonized grey?
Carbonised grey
@@timothydeer1067
Hmmm. Was thinking it was the Infinite Blue.
@@AW-ff6jz if you google the colour it looks the same. Haven’t seen a blue one kicking around. All of the cars at the time the film was shot were grey or red
The car looks amazing, whilst Audi Etron might have the badge there is nothing inside the car which differentiates it and makes is look and feel like an electric vehicle. The mustang does look futuristic inside and the styling outside looks impressive. The range is the game changer for me and i am ordering one. The first time i am moving from a German car (Merc/BMW/Audi)and my current Italian Ghibli in years.
very nice 👌, let's see how ford dealers and funders push the mach-e
They won't. Having bought an EV from a legacy manufacturer and dealership. It is an good thing that they aren't selling them at normal dealerships. Most Legacy dealerships don't want to sell or deal with EV. I got lucky but it still wasn't an easy process.
Very nice ? That's terribly bad on every spec !
How do you open the front trunk?
No coverage of the (coming via software update) self-driving features? I think that's important to a lot of people (having had OpenPilot running in my '17 Chevy Volt for well over two years I will NEVER buy a car or truck that does not have at least Level 2 driving, or can’t have it added later). I think most will really like the using their cell phone for the key (that you skimmed over), and all the features the phone app offers that you didn't cover at all. Also almost no coverage of all the features of the car accessible through the center display. "150kw chargers are still pretty rare"??? Thats not the Mustang Mach-E's fault, and it's also a pretty moot point, as most people charge at home and will not even need big fast chargers (let alone 150kw!!) most of the time, and more and more big (even 150kw) fast chargers will appear over the next few years. “Here’s the problem for the Mach-E, you can have a choice of two batteries…” eeeee, that’s not a “problem” LOL, having choice is “great”!! Also no mention of the GT performance version. I think you seemed overly negative on the Mach-E, and did not even cover a lot of the cars best features!! I think the “USP” of the car is the incredible range + all the tech (most of which you didn’t even cover).
What is the color of this particular Mustang Mach-Ethat you are reviewing?
I was wondering myself. My best guess is it’s the carbonised grey but if someone can confirm?
Carbonised grey
What is WLTP? Is is better than EPA?
So this is a reworked Focus platform. And hasn't ford done a deal to use the VW MEB platform? I'm a bit confused as they're roughly the same size, but this Mach-e shows Ford doesn't need the MEB? Or have I missed something? If anyone can explain I'd be grateful
This is not using a reworked version of the Focus/Kuga/Escape platform. Its a completely different dedicated EV platform. You can find videos of Ford engineers giving interviews talking about that. Its just one of many factual errors in this poorly done video.
where are we getting 379? as the site says 326 or is the longer range non-US?
I think they are using the WLPT results for this video
What color is it? Thanks. God Bless.
The 2 grey colour options for the Mustang Mach E will be Iconic Silver (light grey) and Carbonized Grey (dark grey) - this is the dark one.
3:43 range at 100 % calculates to 211 miles or 340 km. 🤔
What's the range with heater turned on full blast driving like normal person and not 90 year old and doing 80mph on highway
340km is kind of disappointing for a 88kwh battery. I'd hate if we were on etron consumption levels.
I thought the 68kwh battery had 345km of range
@@Scrap-press batteries are shit and only get worse with age
Almost £60k and you don't get a heat pump? Even our little e-208 has one...
You say it has the longest WLTP range like the Model S doesn't exist with a 379 WLTP range as well... or the refresh with 405 miles WLTP range
I don't know how Ford is going to sell a 250+ Mile range Electric when they won't even stand behind a 20 Mile range 2013 Ford CMAX Energi. My hybrid battery failed after 87K miles and 11 days out of warranty. My dealer wants $15,000 to replace it. Take a lesson from me. Ford will not stand behind their engineering and quality! That is why Tesla will eat their lunch in the Electric vehicles. My service guy says Ford is expecting the New Electric Mustang to drop 30% in value the first year-- because it's a Ford. I spent $38,000 on my Ford CMAX and Ford would only give me $2,000 as a trade in! That is $0.41/mile depreciation! Something is wrong with Ford!
He doesn't know that the inner rubber for opening the door is for, Ford has clearly indicated that with their studies, they found that people open the car always by grabbinng the inner , and it helps children and all heights to open and close.
But really only the model y is a competitor as the merc and etron and I pace have 100miles less than the best Mach-e
The ix3 about 200 in the real world
Here in Canada, the Mustang in the long range AWD version is easily $20-30k (and often $40k) cheaper than the e-tron or i-pace. It's crazy that they're on par price-wise in the UK.
They aren’t though. I don’t understand the point of comparing them.
The reviewer was totally incorrect on pricing. The cheapest I Pace with a lot less range is £9k more than the Mach E. Poor fact checking, sadly.
Remember that pricing includes transport. Their cares cost more here ours more there.
Topgear review is better imo
Wondering how your video said it's range is 300+ miles where everywhere else it's 300 tops?
WLTP Vs EPA
Here in the U.S. I can fully charge TESLA model Y for about $12. Mach-E would cost me $26 to be fully charge at much much slower speed !!
def the best looking
Steering wheel adjustment: what else is it for if not viewing the instruments?
Comfort?
It'd drive me nuts being in a left-hand car in a left side country. Is Ford going to make right-hand versions?
Really tempting price 40k -57k 😂is that ford trying to get people to buy them.if you're poor you'll be definitely paying that off for a. Couple of years
That's not completely true about being able to only buy it online. My dealership has ordered 3 and 2 of those 3 are already sold.
Looks fab, what a fantastic range too.
Can't wait for these stupid touchscreens to go away. Track up/down and volume should be buttons along with heating controls.
The Mach E seemed to have some button controls on the steering wheel, but was not mentioned in this review
That volume dial just looks awful and so cheap. So many touch interfaces seem so far behind current phones as well, horrible.
Except they aren't going away.
Ford said that the back door is that way because kids tend to just grab the door anyways.
Just saw few US reviews and all editors were impressed about how it drives, handles. Only way to find out - give it a go when possible :)....and they claim up to 300 miles od range - WLTP once again - too much optimism !!:)
Realistically 280m for long range, so a 210 mile charge takes 40 mins at best. Tesla does it in 20-25mins. Game over
Bang and olef. Sound system... impressive!
Review of EV without charging test is a joke
Why?
HE TOLD YOU THE TIME IT TAKES. IT NOT A LIVING WITH THE CAR REVIEW.
Seemed really good, until I heard the price..what a shame
Price isn't that bad if you consider that the competition is around 10-15K more expensive at least. Plus, you only get an electric car for the tax benefits anyway.
@@stephans1990 you're right about the tax benefits but branding is the issue, guess that's why ford have tried to shift it to a mustang brand...not sure that'll work when up against Audi, Tesla, Jaguar etc
To be honest the Mach e gets bashed alot. But the funny part is the Mach e rwd long range real weakness is the slow charging speed and the heat pump but it still gives you more range during winter than ev6 and a Tesla y. Yeah sure the Mach e comes with smaller rims but in the summer it beats both MY and EV6. Etron comparison is a joke.
the "upcoming" Tesla Model Y? we've had one since March
Maybe not in Europe yet .
But it’s definitely out in North America , so I found his statement weird too :)
Maybe he meant widely available worldwide
English channel (UK)..No sign of model Y here.
Does it have a heat pump?
No.
Ugh..dog Shyte on the door cill.. thanks
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ok that is the only thing I liked about this "Mock E" imo
Nice job on the video!
This is cool
No it's not
So far does seem pretty promising as far slightly over priced mainstream E-suv can be. Think it will do well for Ford. It may not be the best or worst, it seems to sit in the middle and Ford are probably counting on that. However can we please stop comparing any tablet style infotainment screen and minimalistic interior as influenced by Tesla, its not just Tesla that does these kinds of interiors, they all do tablet style touch screen and sadly no buttons ( bring back physical buttons!) They are probably more influenced by touch screen tablet and mobile phones that everyone and their granny has at home and is familiar with rather than Tesla.
It's not an SUV. It's just an electric car with extra ground clearance.
The term SUV has broadened. It's usage now encompasses these vehicles.
Ford say it won't be available at dealers.. but they said that about Vignale cars..
The Model S has better range at >400 miles on a full charge.
I keep hearing that Tesla is unable to reach their claimed range.
@@RobbieFitzgerald No electric vehicle does under usual driving habits. But the rates range can be achieved under ideal weather conditions and no steep hill climbing, tame acceleration, etc.
I wonder why Ford is offering a larger battery pack in the UK (99 kwh) versus the US (88kwh)?
99kwh total but only 88 kwh usable. Same thing
@@francisdufresne4116 Thanks for the clarification
1) Why are most of the views of the boot of these reviews so dark, just use spot metering!
2) The caption Speed ~150KW is not a speed, it's just a figure, you need time for a speed or rate.
Yeah, Mach-e can charge with 150kw.
Tesla Model Y can charge with 250kw.
Mach-E will get 58 miles of range in 10 minutes of charging.
Tesla Model Y gets 150 MILES of range in 10 minutes of charging.
Mach-E is very inefficient car !
Good informative review - well done. Have been looking at the Mach-E as potentially my next car so a useful review
57k? They must be smoking something.
it's ridiculously hard to put the cost down because of the battery. that's why Tesla will blow away competition because of their ability to keep the cost down while increasing the range. But this is a worthy competitor. Model Y starts at 50k u.s. and the base mach E starts at 45k.
@@joec.5009 Tesla definitely still has a technical and cost advantage. That's pretty clear now and that's on their "old" batteries.
@@joec.5009 yeah but that 45k mache isn’t available yet, is only rear drive and only gets like 200 miles of range. It is massively non competitive with the model y when priced the same or cheaper. Looks good though.
Don't know why you think it's not good to have a rear door handle grasp. Learn a new hand movement. Press button, door opens, hand in space and pull. So simple. Don't live in the past. Embrace new methods.
I wish manufacturers would stop ruining interiors by fitting huge screens to the centre of the dash. It's a horrible trend that I wish would die.
This is the ONLY negative review I've seen so far for this car.
European reviewers against American cars for you.
@@modlerjeancharles3287 Nonsense. That is false.
Yep and I drove this car. It's superb.
No other ev beats Tesla in range not even close
I want my car to sound like a Mclaren F1 car from 1988. Yah. I want a Ford to sound like a Honda.
Ehh V10 Era from the early 2000s sounds better.
@@Neojhun I want my EV to still have a manual transmission. So if I had to choose another sound I'd choose Gilles' Ferrari.
@@kevinn1158 Pass Manual is pointless on very powerful fast cars. Keep Manual for Light Weight sub 1200kg Petrol Cars. Maximum torque 300lb/ft. BEVs not doing that anytime soon. Entirely different ball game.
@@Neojhun bro, we are talking about sound effects....
Can't wait till that button gets frozen over, LOL☺️
It’s heated
@@anothertesla7284 👍
Of course, pop-out handles never freeze ... oh, hang on ....😳🤔
How many cars have a display that moves when you adjust the steering wheel? Crass comment. Stopped watching at that point ☹️
Yeah, I noticed that too. Got the feeling that this guy is biased.
That is not an actual display that moves that is how the car tracks your eyes for the self driving system that has not been released yet. The display is stationary.
@@misterliquidcity u are talking about something else other than what S J is pointing. Re-read his post again. Peace!
@@misterliquidcity 03:33
LOT'S OF CARS HAVE MOVEABLE IP PANELS. ALL YOU GUYS WHINING DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT CARS.
How can something that big stuck on the dashboard be safe, it's like having a supersized cellphone there, stupid 😔 Are we supposed to let the auto-braking feature to save us here and us I mean the other drivers, don't care about the person driving this "thing"😤
Almost all the ev's have that massive screen stuck to the dash
@@themeach011 a massive distraction, all talk when it comes to people's lives!
It's not going anywhere and nobody sits in front of it.
@@klasseact6663 If you are distracted by Nav/Ent screens maybe you shouldn't drive since they are all moving that direction.
@@DrewHaughton missed the point entirely🤔
The only electric vehicle ide consider
You can either spend 50+K on a Tesla and be considered cool by most people or you can spend 50+K on this and have everyone with the slightest bit of car sense laugh at you, because you drive a fake Mustang. Take your pick.
Will they make it RHD?
ID.3 for me
Or vw id4 thats cool
Mach E does 250 miles in real world conditions, way behind the industry leader.
But Tesla is not even mentioned.
@@samovog Because the Tesla Model Y, with which it competes, is not yet available in the UK or Europe
@@wk9205 Yeapp. What car is payed to advertise the cars that are in fact for sale in UK. They are not journalists, who care about truths.
Best review I have seen on it. Great job.
Who is LYING here, you, Ford or someone from Ford told you to say that ?
Mach-E Long Range is using 88kw battery
and will get 270 miles EPA range.
Tesla Model Y gets 75kw battery with 326 miles of range. That's 15% less battery to be charged with 20% more range for Tesla Model Y.
Mach-E charging with 150kw, which is terrible slow and BAD.
Tesla Model Y charging with 250kw.
Mach-E gets 58 MILES of range in 10 minutes of charging.
Tesla Model Y gets 150 MILES of range in 10 minutes of charging.
That means that Mach E is LESS efficient car than TESLA MODEL Y by MORE than 50% !! That's reality!