"White Immunity": Working through the pitfalls of "privilege" discourse | Nolan Cabrera | TEDxUofA
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2018
- White immunity builds off White privilege, and explores how Whiteness creates a type of social inoculation from racism for White people. Dr. Cabrera links the historical formation of Whiteness in the U.S. to contemporary times, ultimately calling for White people to develop greater racial empathy and responsibility. Nolan Cabrera is scholar of race and racism, specifically focusing on Whiteness in higher education. He has also been deeply involved in the Mexican American Studies controversy in Tucson Unified, recently serving as an expert statistician for the plaintiffs in the federal case. He was the only academic featured in the MTV documentary "White People." This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
I see two aspects to privilege: 1. I will be rewarded for my efforts, and will always be able to get ahead. 2. No matter how I screw up, I will always have choices and I can always get ahead.
Some people are trapped in lives where they will never be paid equally, they can have everything taken away at random at any time, and there is no way up.
It’s important to note that privilege does not guarantee good outcomes for the privileged group or bad outcomes for everyone else. A white person, for example, can work hard and have little to show for it, can be mistreated by the police without cause, be denied a job they’re qualified for. What privilege does is load the odds one way or the other so that the chance of bad things happening to white people as a category of people is much lower than for everyone else, and the chance of good things happening is much higher. Privilege is not something a person can have, like a possession, as in “Where’s mine?” Instead, it is a characteristic of the social system-like a rule in a game-in which everyone participates.
Spot on!
"It's a very strange area to study because it seems everybody has an opinion about it and no one actually knows what they are talking about. And sometimes the people who have the strongest opinions actually know the least about what they are talking about."
Nothing strange about that. Most areas of study are like that.
Would you say that having the very strongest opinion would activate someone to independently stage a TedX talk? LOL
Let’s get the best minds of the proud boys to talk about this topic on tedx😂
Often referred to as the Dunning-Kruger effect...
Have you studied anything?
You are correct, since, you are obviously very well educated and exceedingly knowledgeable.
It is about who has resources to get what they need. When you have extra resources you get what you want.
He is speaking a lot of truth although he does come across as playing a blame game at first but if you hear him through. He is speaking in honest laymen terms that a lot of privileged people don’t want to hear.
I guess if you look hard enough you'll always find skidmarks in everybody's drawers huh. Damn. I swear. Can't win for loosing.
However colour classism has always existed. But please do not disregard cultures who believe the darker the more beautiful?!?! In the eye of the beholder.
Did he hit a nerve??
People are afraid of certain neighborhoods because of the astronomically different levels of street crime. That goes with social class and the disintegration of the lower and working classes, economically, culturally, and socially. Without controlling for factors of class, you can't begin to talk about a separate impact of "racism". It's not white guilt - it's upper-class guilt.
Do poorer whites avoid non-white neighborhoods for the same reason that wealthier whites do? Yes!
@Preston Parks Who exactly uses that term in there real world, outside of academia or left activist echo chambers?
If we don’t educate ourselves and challenge our work view nothing changes.
I strongly disagree. Respectfully IF you are truly interested in a better understanding or more perspective you can re-educate yourself
@@joycesmith771 So, only if I agree with you and your ideology do I wish to understand better and desire to improve myself by education. I can say the same to you.
If the racism problem got fixed all problems would be corrected….we would have low crime , less poverty… the whole deal. It’s like believeing in certain people being better than others is the reason most problems exist in this world….especially here in the United States
I find it absolutely ridiculous when I don't know one of the co-hosts of the majority report from Milwaukee spews vapid propaganda to college campuses across this country.
The transatlantic trade started with sassafras.
Neo pagan was already in the lexicon by 1675.
King Philips war wasn't just about taking natives land it was about inserting an artificial layer that humans huberously think his creation over what already exists.
Wasn't an accident that the guy from Boston that came over to California with the first water wheel put it next to the reservation boarding school and eugenics soon sprung out of there
So long as believe in the notion of concept of forward time an progress
You're just reiterating and rehashing a new set of musical chairs in the same game.
Check out the UN 18 points sustainability agenda that's where we're going and none of you are going to like it
We would still have crime but the biggest crime is the elite.who has control over how the laws and order of who's bad or good.Its a power thing and greed.we have seen people in position do a crime and get 30 days in jail and the poor mainly people of color get years for the same crime.(GREED). example.all these guys up in the white house in the past administration do stuff and get pardon for crimes right in front of our faces .and yes it's not just Trump boys it's like that on both side even police officers get away on paid
@@rebornkingofthule7067 please read a history book and maybe some things about confirmation bias.
You can choose to be a better person
We would be a long way closer to following The Golden Rule: Do Un To Others...
As long as we go home, at the end of the working day, to separate parts of town. We'll have a tough time seeing ourselves as one race, the human race... even if we want to.
Individuality is definitely part of the problem.
Dr. Cabrera
Thank you. Respect!
Keep Speaking 🗣️ Truth To Power
“I study racism” Yea biscuit. It’s called Marxism.
One of the best discussions I've heard on this subject.
If everyone in the world had a terminal disease, we would see life a lot differently.
An American once told me within minutes of meeting them "Never hang around on any Martin Luther King Jr Drive.."... 😬
We know how it started ,but the question is how to change it??????
The WP was the fact that he was painting a HOUSE - not where blacks were placed in projects.
James Williams -- CORRECT. | The FACT that he had a job BECAUSE of whiteness escaped him.
Really trying to understand this whole concept.
It's akin to grasping for a wet fish... Just seems to slip further away the harder I think about it.
It’s like Catholicism with its concept of original sin. It’s not there for you to grasp, it’s there for people to be able to guilt you with it.
@@murdoch3396 Christians believe Jesus died for their sins, so they don't walk around guilty.
@@murdoch3396 weird.
Because I grasp it, yet I feel no guilt.
No one has ever tried to make me feel guilt for it. But I also like to learn, so I seek information beyond a couple Tedtalks.
I accept the facts for what they are, and tried to contextualize today's issues as best I can.
After learning a lot of (incredibly important) pieces of our racial history over the years, I realized the way we are taught about race in school is so whitewashed and abbreviated as to be nearly deceptive.
I want to make this country a safer, happier, more prosperous place for everyone to live. I personally feel that knowing important and harsh truths about our past, can be a real asset to working toward progress today.
@@MizterMissile I'd say the country is more prosperous now than it needs to be. The problem is that prosperity is not more equitably distributed. That's now new. It's the reality everywhere in the world, but in the US that unequal distribution is strongly based on ethnicity.
It's simple. Just as race is purely a social construct, racism is a social construct. They were constructed very intentionally for very specific reasons and working as intended. That said, capitalism cannot persist without the social constructs of race and racism.
WRONG !! RACISM COMES TROM TRIBALISM. ITS IN OUR DNA !!
Poor people of the world need to ally QUICKLY
I agree with everything he is saying. Unfortunately his message is muddled a bit because he isn’t a strong public speaker.
Most people Aren’t however. It’s brave to stand up there regardless of the fear. I hope he has kept with it 🥰
I thought he was an effective speaker.
Anyone here feeling angry our triggered... You're the subject of this topic.
Thanks Nolan, So what's your point?
The constitution does say that but you left out the most crucial element. Here's the full version. " "Nothing is more certainly
written in the book of fate than that these people [Negroes] are to be free.", "Nor is it less certain that the two races,
equally free, cannot live in the same government." -Thomas Jefferson
No one is free until all are free
We’ll said…
he makes a some good points but certain things he said will just further divide us
WHAT GOOD POINTS?
"As much as you have heard the south side is dangerous how many of you have actually looked up the crime statistics?"
This made me pretty curious, so I did. The south side actually does have a higher crime rate. Perhaps people consider that area of town more dangerous not because they are racists but because it is statistically proven to be more dangerous.
So then by extension you would agree that people of color are more "prone" to criminal behavior. Or you can open your eyes and see the institutional racism in the "justice" system, which is designed to criminalize and incarcerate people of color at very high rates.
The criminal justice system is not biased against POC. You do the crime, you do the time.
Let's say a such a system to criminalize and incarcerate POC at very high rates exist.
Why would you as a POC rob a convenience store with security camera's at gunpoint when you know what the results will be in said system?
@@juliocammarota962 People are not arrested because they aren't doing criminal behavior, it's because they are. Do you think the police are constantly patrolling minority areas snatching up poor POC's that are just coming home from choir practice? That the police ignore white people out selling drugs and holding up gas stations? There is no system that "criminalizes" POCs. It's easy to stay out of the justice system. Don't commit crimes and obey the orders of police officers. It's not that difficult.
@@juliocammarota962 Aww, come on! I guess all your folks been locked up by dem mean ol' cops for jaywalking and whistling at white girls?Also,any drive-bys shown on the nightly news are faked with CGI, huh?
Are you kidding yourself? The people living in "bad parts of town" don't want to be around those felons either and they leave as soon as they get some money!
PEOPLE ARE CRAZY THIS PROVES IT !
@11:48 that was deep and true
yes. Being in prison sucks.
Send me an angel... right now
While I do agree that certain topics can be generally misunderstood by large numbers of people, or not understood at all.
But that is the purpose of an argument. To structure a discussion in a way that that makes sense. If the argument doesn't make sense, it is usually because the person making it has done a bad job, or the argument is false.
Or it hits too close to home and caused a gut reaction, making you uncomfortable so therefore you dismissed it.
Sometimes an argument is not persuasive because the situation being described is different for your own experiences.
I have to make an effort to see racism because I get along well with minority co-workers. I don't feel like I see them any differently and don't feel that I would or have discriminated in an interview etc.
But I do believe in subtle effects at play. People partly judge competence by a person's confidence and the words that they use to communicate which can lead us to undervaluate some people. We also unconsciously judge if someone would be a good fit for a job in part based off how similar they are to the existing group or how similar they are to ourselves.
I don't think that this should be called racism, but I can see how it systematically works against people 'outside the system' and needs to be understood and countered, if possible.
@@AdDeRidder I don't know how I feel about the first sentance, which I know is not and argument LOL so I will try to unpack my thoughts.
I suppose it could be the case that an argument isn't persuasive because the topic is different from our own experiences, but our own experiences are subjective and arguments aren't subjective in nature. Thats not to say the subjective experiences aren't real, but the purpose of the argument is determine whether the experience (or rather the perception of the experience) is accurate based on the objective facts.
Human emotions really are an incredible thing. They are triggered automatically, based on varying amounts of information, and those emotions are absolutely real and a very important part of being a human. With that said, we need to understand their purpose. They exist as a survival mechanism. Humans are a thinking species but throughout history we have found ourselves in situations where taking the time to think could be the difference between life and death, so we have evolved in a way where the body creates very unpleasant physiological sensations that compel us to act immediately in order to avoid harm.
Thats a very important thing to understand about ourselves because everyone is different and every human body interprets information about their immediate environment differently. The emotional responses we have are absolutely real, and usualy very intense, but they are not always valid. Thats where the arguments come in. Its usually not up to our conscious selves, in the moment, to determine when we will and will not feel threatened. Thats is done automatically and the body will respond accordingly.
Although we may not be able to control our physiolocal responses in the moment, we can revisit the situation later, after the perceived threat is gone in order to discuss the objective facts of the circumstances and we can get to a place where we recognize that it was not actually a threatening situation.
Perception can be formed in an instant, with little to no information and trigger negative emotional responses that are real, but that doesn't mean they are valid or justified. It is up to us as individuals to put in the work to determine whether our perception is accurate or not, and be willing to admit if its not. It seems to generally be the case that when arguments such as this one fail to persuade, its because one side is presenting subjective experiences while the other side is presenting objective facts or perhaps different subjective experiences. No disagreements will ever be resolved under those circumstances. The only way to truly resolve disagreement is for all parties to stick to objective facts when presenting an argument.
As for the second part of your reply, I agree with everything you said. I'm sure there are people in the world who make decisions based soley on the color of people's skin, but I can't imagine that there is more than a handful of those kinds of people left in this world. In fact, I can't stand it when I hear "people that look like me". I think its far more likely to be the case that we have a preference for "people who act like me" or "people who think like me" or "people who have similar interests as me" rather than "people who look like me".
I don't think its irrational at all to prefer to be around other people who share things in common with us. Thats what makes us the most comfortable. I also understand that adding more people we feel comfortable around to a team could be the worst thing. Sometimes we need to add someone, often a leader, who will disrupt the comfort because that comfort has resulted in reduced productivity.
Thats why I firmly believe, especially in the work place, the only factor that ought to determine who gets a job is the person best suited for the position. Period. Hiring someone for any other reason will almost always degrade the team. Its possible they will get lucky and it will work out, but its not something that should be logically assumed in any way.
Finally, I agree 100% that if there are instances of racism encountered around us, we absolutely have a duty to push back. With that said, that is a very serious accusation and ought not be made without sufficient, objective, evidence.
At the end of the day, it should be the goal of all of us to surround ourselves with good, hard working people who add value and positive experiences to our lives. I have come to the conclusion that there are a whole lot less people in this world who fit that description than I previously believed, and I know with numbers like that, none of us can afford to further limit the pool of people we can have in our life by something silly like skin color.
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Long read, but certainly worth the time. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Very insightful.
@@AdDeRidder thank you so much for reading it all. Means a lot. Its just impossible to articulate a meangful thought in 120 characters or less so I appreciate anyone who reciprocates the effort to read as I put into writing.
Wither people do the correct or incorrect thing they are granteed to get the consequences Individually and you can't hide behind ignorance or arrogance
WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? PUT ALL PEOPLE OF THE SAME COLOR IN ONE GROUP?
How are so many people having trouble understanding this? He's only pointing out the truth. Makes me wonder if we even are at the 101 level when it comes to racism.
pure racism or a lack for people to listen. That is exactly why some people in the comments section are extremely defensive like one comment I'm reading.
Becomes it's bs. Skin color dissent determine net outcomes.
Whites have a highly supported denial system and mechanism. They will never voluntarily dismantle an unjust system that benefits them. We have to do it.
I believe its true. White culture isnt at the 101 level or even really listening
This ought to be good
Notice the change in definitions, racism is no longer a prejudice and or discrimination based on a belief that one race is superior because the other all has one or more traits that every one of them has. Instead racism is defined as being based in power, using the word systemic, automatically putting it as because of the intangible concept of 'the system'. Inherently this changes the entire conversation.
It also creates an environment that has an air of impossibility, making it seem like it can't change, so the whities have to feel bad and try and give up their rights in order to serve real people (read non-white). Rather then letting each person be a person who can do things on their own. Rather then reconize how society has begun, because of individuals, to reverse the problems racism started. Instead we take the power to change things away by acting as if no whities could ever change anything.
Beyond that we ignore that class provides much more privilege then race does, and that privilege doesn't live in a vacume, a white disabled poor person will have a harder life and less privilege then a wealthy able non-white person.
Also, by acting as if white people can't be in a position that they have no privilege, acting as if there could never be prejudice and even racism against a white person, you segregate by race. By saying those things you are saying the races are inherently different, the same thing that started racism. It shouldn't be a fight where we act like someone is on the top of the mountain and needs to pull the others up, but a fight where we help either climb up realizing that everyone is on different parts of the mountain and there's no white half of the mountain.
Please give an example of racism against white people?
@@juliocammarota962 oh how about being a white guy who is poor and and lives in a trailer park filled with meth heads and being pulled over and searched and detained purely because of where I live and the fact that I'm poor. purely because I'm poor and live in a meth "hood" I'm views by the police as a meth head even though I have nothing to do with that world. I'm just a poor white guy who can only afford to live in this place. And yet I'm branded as a drug dealer
Is that racism or classism?
Julio Cammarota, that is not relevant to the argument, because I do not engage in either one, and I am of mixed "race", which in and of itself is absurd. Humans are the only self-aware genus that exists. What is being addressed here is ethnicity which is the evolution, of different members, of the one genetic group adapting to the environment their ancestors lived in over thousands or millions of years.
@Julio Cammarota
Reverse racism is just racism.
Treating any race like they're inherently better than another is classic racism no matter who is involved.
Thank you my white brother
Ok, let me just make sure I understand this right......
1. I am X, or I am at least a part of X
2. If I deny that I am X, or that I am at least a part of X, then that is in and of itself inherently proof that I am X, or that I am at least a part of X.
3. If the argument does not make sense to me as to why I am X, or at least a part of X, it's only because I am X, or at least a part of X.
Can anyone give me an example of what X could be, other than this one, where this argument is accepted as legitimate by a reasonable person? Because I can't think of anything.
Denial
You are describing a Kafka-trap and that is a logical fallacy. It was used in witch burning trails, which hints that this line of thinking isnt very sound.
@@fana9863 of course. It's not even accurate to call it fallacious. Surely they don't actually believe this to be the case, they are just using it to punish people and manipulate to get what they want.
Reptilians, bro! They're running the show and they've brainwashed us all to think they don't exist! The reptilians have even used Monarch techniques to make some people claim it's all a conspiracy theory! :)
N my dreams: my life collapsed. Nothing major resolved just party people satisfaction.
Sublime and Janis Joplin references thrown in was amazing 👏
You are teaching this immunity thing Sir.
No he's not. He's pointing it out. It's been taught since the inception of this damned country. Pointing it out is not the same thing as teaching it or practicing it.
@@notorioushebrew4793 HE IS BATSHIT CRAZY !!!
0:25. Just like politics.
im canadian and i m really glad he tied in Chritianity to whiteness, just in this particular context. Christianity has done irreperable damage in Canada not just the Catholic Church...many churches paricipated in The Residential Schools.
TRUE CHRISTIANS ONLY LOVE .
The speaker redefines racism and several other terms which make his argument valid. It's easy to prove any point when you redefine the terms. He also acts like nothing has changed since the founding of our country.
It hasn't.Your in denial
Depends on who you ask.
Exactly, it used to be the Native American country, then it became somebody else's country because they said so because bullies with guns have more power than arrows. Same old same old. Ya, that sums it up. So, thats how people are able to say ours, but exclude them. All in the words.
Well how will you define racism then go ahead
SCS - Entirely. He undercuts his point by trying to make it stronger.
DanielC - Think, man. Slavery? Gone. White water fountains. Gone. Things have definitely changed.
This guy's "intellectual journey" went about five feet and then crapped its diapers.
It really does look as if he's wearing diapers
Bigot
Such a succinct yet accurate description.
He tossed the ball, moved the goalposts around some, bounced the ball, moved the goalposts around more, then said, "usually, someone who moves the goalposts this much would win but I'm going to lose and be very uncomfortable with that, and that's ok!"
Y’all should do something for yourselves 😊
Go down and take a few classes at your Community college. (They’ll even help you get your GED if you can’t get into a CR)
Give yourself the gift of knowing Reality!
History, Sociology, Anthropology, and maybe a bit of Psych 101 if your really get into it.
I would pay for your credits.
And I’m poor.
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It time to start thinking these people are and will seperate the country on bullcrap lies.
You ask the American Indian about racism???? And see what answer you get?????
MANY PEOPLE LIKE AMERICANS NATIVES !!
This just seems like the original sin of a budding secular religion. It’s like they Catholics with their control mechanism of guilt, just shrouded in academic elitism.
Yeah, except Christians believe Jesus died for their sins, so they don't walk around guilty. These guys don't get a savior, they just get told to flog themselves and "sit in their discomfort"!
@@mediabiassucks1803 Well at least until they make up there savior for when something happens so beyond the pale that even they realize 'oy are we the baddies'. The whole they died for my sins thing has always been a cope to remove responsibility from the individuals involved.
@@117Haseo Yeah, lots of people are like, "only God can judge me," denying any wrongdoing and they don't seem to get the whole confess and MAKE AMENDS thing. You have to own up to what you did and try to make things right.
Another Rce Hustler.
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normally i find ted talks fair and balanced but this guy gets into his opinion immediately and opinions are like, well anyway i dont care for Bill O either. screw your opinion and get to the facts. we should all be wanting fair treatment for all. the fragility of the woke will destroy this world if we dont just say no and no and no
Jane Elliott Told The History. She is Irish
THEY ARE ALL RACISTS !!
There is no Ian's at the end of white-ian
Tim Wise Spoke On This Subject
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I disagree with thinking you will be able to talk racism away.
The painters and carpenters this cartel want the whole gamut. 21st century means get all you can. Kissed.tragically.
Aaand end video prematurely.
me too.
p.s. Central and South. America showed up like trogens. What could be done but role over.
"when Europeans were coming over and stealing land and killing everybody, they weren't known as white they were known as their country of origin... Irish, and German etc" Oops you forgot Spanish, Cabrera. Ok let's resume the video...
River Lewis land was not stolen. It was concord. The spoils of war. The first inhabitants of this continent was constantly at war with each other for the possession of land or territory. Because they could not work together they where concord. The same way mankind have been doing all over the world for at least a half million years. By the way white people along with middle eastern people, Asians and Latinos all are referred to as country of origin. It's a thing of pride. To clarify there are only one race of humanoid left. We killed off the neanderthals and hominids thousands of years ago.
Good point, I forgot that all Spanish are dark skinned people and that they annihilraped all the indigenous out of the small Southern tail of the continents completely. you have good college.
X x your really smart too, good job on the us history and the point about doctrine of discovery was spot on!
Teeeell it like it iiiiiis.
@@erichuff6945 *conquered, bro! Concord is a kind of grape! :)
Also, we modern humans have Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA because we interbred.
This talk is the definition of toxic.
Tell me you're white without telling me you're white.
Good subject matter. But if your not strong enough to talk about it, don't. The nervous stutter.
This guy is selling crazy and no one is buying.
@Bug Squasher Priceless response
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All people hide behind privileges of race, status and gender. Regardless the color, creed or composition.
Speak on that religion mind wash
Bollox , he change the definition of racism so its suits his idea ;) He talk abaut white sistem and yet forgot to tell us some examples ;) The whit quilt is strong in this one ;p
He tossed the ball, moved the goalposts around some, bounced the ball, moved the goalposts around more, then said, "usually, someone who moves the goalposts this much would win but I'm going to lose and be very uncomfortable with that, and that's ok!"
Recenter whiteness
Absolutely nothing is going to change untill all white people Repent and ask for forgiveness for what they and their Ancestors have done to other melanated people. and if they need a colour, then "pink" because that is how they look.
YOU SOUND BATSHIT CRAZY //
You are owed nothing and you depend on white people.
Racism is like jello. There’s always room for it.
What's up haters? How's life in Haterville? Haha!
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The only true race and culture from God is those from Israel 🇮🇱! God claims them as his children! His laws were given to and through them! All others are gentiles! And gentiles must learn and study the laws from God! They must help future generations by prayer and worship of the one true God!
The only religion that has any legitimacy at all remaining is gnosticism exactly because there is no orthodox
Amargi
Example of them blasphemizing their own book
Midrash underarum
You simply shouldn't be able to delete comments at all End of discussion
Says you!! But something is seriously wrong with that narrative when it does not connect to the dot that defines those words. As in WW2. you can't mix politics and religion. It don't fit the reality.
A man made religion created by desert dwellers needing a hook to feel better than the others around them. They create a god that turns around and creates them then " chooses" them to be his "chosen" people. Now when other's who are without self esteem, create their own god who chooses them as being "special" this first group of scared desert dwellers ridicule the second scared group calling them heathens and all gods children have found common ground, their mutual fear and hate for each other.
Can they all be right? Of course not, but can they all be wrong? Yes. Of course they can
My god, my tribe, my country, my religion, my culture, my way of life, my flag, my country, m God!
Why does nobody talk about jewish privilege?
they don't want to get cancelled
If you close your eyes and listen, Nolan Cabrera sounds like a white man. Go Nolan. You have appropriated your whiteness inoculation very well. Jump on the band wagon. Enrich yourself. Self actualize yourself. Get some.
LMAO !!! THIS GUY IS BATSHIT CRAZY !!
@@salamjihad3449 Yes. Nolan Cabrera drank the cool-aide.