Fire Service on a US Elevator. Very glitchy and unsafe by today's standards.
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- (11-29-2009) This is a fire service demonstration on a 1984 US elevator. Fire service on these older elevators is a lot different and arguable a lot less safer. First of all no call cancel except at the recall floor. Second: the elevator can be run from another floor while in fire service with no fire key which could in theory strand the fire fighters. Also when you are not at the recall floor and register a call, it will go to the first call you registered which could be lethal in the wrong situation. Anyway I am so happy that fire service has been standardized on newer elevators. It is a lot safer for the fire fighters that would need to use the elevator as a tool during an evacuation.
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"Smoke free facility, I wonder if that applies if the building is on fire"... classic Andrew quote
I've been waiting to see this for years! I remember reading the description of the called to work video and was wondering where the re-take was. Glad I finally get to see it tonight.
I have always wanted to see a better take of this in Fire Service! :D
Huge fan, new elevator photographer in town
Welcome to the elevator community! Andrew a.k.a. Dieselducy was a huge inspiration for me to start my own RUclips channel eight years ago in 2013.
@@JordanLoweElevaToursCanada my inspiration was in 2017-18
Can’t wait to watch a classic from you ;)
Their camera is best quality than security camera.
Even though this would be unsafe, I still would kill for a ride on a US Elevator of this model. They are truly one of a kind.
john elevator fan you're right
This is a very interesting set up on how this elevator worked with the fire service feature on this elevator before ThyssenKrupp modernized it
Oh my! I remember this video from a long long time ago! That's when I realized that my AEP Power Co. lock has the same Y1 key.
Never thought that I would be waiting for a service elevator
At the rivercenter Marriott I was waiting for a service elevator for 5 minutes on the 38th floor
@@Txdcblues y
00:00:57 loved how you called the lantern the “dinger thing”
This elevator has since been modernized
Yes and at this rate, I feel like we should be glad for the mod
I once worked in an office building where random office keys would work in the fire call key switch. A few people took advantage of that while others wondered why the elevator would shoot down to the lobby. Was that way ‘til they modernized them.
It’s funny how elevators and fire alarm keys have these funny letter/number names (like the Simplex B key)
This video is sure a DieselDucy Classic. Really like it!
imagine a firefigher trying to rescue someone, using a lift w/ fire service enabled and getting stuck in there.
This is very unsafe, especially for a fire fighter
There’s another video of this elevator in for fire service to!
Here's another dangerous aspect: when you turn the key off, It should send the car automatically to the recall floor, but it doesn't.
I guess it’s a good thing it got a mod at this rate
Where i live, call cancel buttons are non existent (however, in fire service, selecting a different floor will cancel the previous call)
Interesting.
@@DieselDucyYes, there's no call cancel button and also no phase 2 in Europe and the UK.
We have a classic lift (elevator) at work you have to open 2 sliding doors to get in and out
It was at the Elmwood parking garage
I find that U.S. elevators are always weird (and a bit cheap)... That fire service demo has got to be one of the more interesting ones out there, that's for sure!
For you dieselducy, make a trip down to Tampa FL sometime. Lot's of places to check out especially at the JW Marriott newly built with Florida's first Mitsubishi lifts. Stop by the Columbia restaurant in Ybor City when or if you are there! 😊😊
Even though fire service isn’t really necessary here, I can see this being a reason the elevator got modded.
You see that red button that does not do anything when you press it? That is supposed to be the call cancel button, and it is broken completely.
Yep
That's a nice 1984 US Scenic. Garage is in good shape for its age too.
It is modded now
@@DieselDucyAnd since it was modernized, it has been neglected by the City of Roanoke.
Good thing that they moded it
I can see that you are trained to do all of this with the fire service mode on the elevator.
Nice US Elevator but they modernized by thyssenkrupp in 2015 at the Elmwood Parking garage
yep
“Smoke free facility, I wonder if that applies if the building is on fire” Needless to say I don’t think it applies if the building is on fire.
Guess this is unreleased where he get interrupted by office calls.
1:03 “That button does nothing.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
lol
Im a huge fan!!! Hope to be in a vid someday!
Come to Roanoke sometime :)
@@DieselDucy same with me I’m a huge fan of you
@@DieselDucy will do! Only live bout 30 miles from the area 😂
I hope to make videos with you someday
@@DieselDucy so fire service works like indipendent
Well, the in car signage may be wrong regarding “call canceling”. But the arrival lantern doesn’t “ring” when on Fire Recall. That red button “that does nothing”, isn’t a button. Read the writing on the button cap. This “non button” lights up during the recall itself. It illuminates during the recall function. This U.S. Elevator is early 1980’s vintage, like 1984 or thereabouts. Fire Service, apart from you believing it should or shouldn’t behave in a certain way, seemed to operate under the code that was in force 30 some years ago. Until the elevator is brought down to the main fire floor while on phase two (in the car), you can indeed turn phase two off inside the car and it will still run on phase two until it’s brought to the main fire floor, “1” in this case and the doors open fully and remain open. Then phase two is dropped out of the control circuitry. Then phase one can be turned off to return the car to automatic service, then the lantern will ding. It’s not unsafe as some understood your description to be.
it could potentially put firefighters at risk.
@@DieselDucy everything is “potentially” dangerous. But like I said, other than the improper signage, it does seem to work according to 30 year old code requirements. “In theory, ANYONE could come and do this”. Sure if they had the fire recall key to begin with, and I’m sure their aren’t to many people walking about with an old US 35 recall key.
And actually this is one of the reasons Id say newer elevators are better because this doesnt have any of the fancy bells and whistles you would see nowadays
Yep
Probably a good thing they modernized this
It is not much better
@@DieselDucy I mean the old one seemed better
Im assuming thats why it was modernized because it was breaking alot of fire service safety standards
Yep
See, that thing at 3:30 where you didn't know where it was going, would be very unsafe in a real fire. Most elevators give you COMPLETE control, but this one seems to still do some *important* things on it's own. Not having a call cancel? Yeah. That could be deadly if you accidentally hit the button and can't get off.
This is off topic but I tried finding the interlock on my washer. I believe it is inside the hinge. Most of them are behind the lid but I can't find any interlock on the outside of the washer. Also that is my issue with this fire service. No way to cancel calls from upstairs. VERY dangerous for the fire fighters.
This is a REALLY late reply, but I looked at some videos of washers like yours and similar. Unlike the older style of those machines which just have it under the lid, it looks like yours is mounted either under the control panel, or in the actual cabinet unfortunately. Which means that you would have to take either the control panel or the cabinet off (or both) to get to it. And yeah. This elevator would have been a liability during an actual fire. Although I would think that since it's a parking garage, they wouldn't have used it anyway.
I agree
Hello im huge fan of u
I love Elevators. do you?
Ask if you can do it on the modded elevator now?
How did you get your older US keys? For collective purposes I want them, but can't seem to find them anywhere accessible to me.
I forgot where but I got the codes and had a locksmith cut them.
Ahh ok. Thank you
Is this one of the reasons why the elevator got modernized
Remember when you did this and you got called into work?
2:13 uh see flames
1:04 what is that button suppose to be for?
I think its supposed to be a light
(the wording on it suggests it is intended to alert whoever is in the elevator car that they should return to the lobby)
What happened to that one scooter you had at the time this videos was taken?
still have it, needs an engine rebuild
What’s the outro music called.
What would happen if you switched it right to off when taking out of phase 1?
On this elevator it might just go back into normal service, but on newer elevators, it will remain in fire service until the key is turned to bypass/reset
I made a video to see if you would comment on it.
The first thing you do is the first elevator
why this is on fire service
Cuz it a fire service vid
@@Petmaster_100 ok
How could you hold storage with videos from many years ago and videos from this year?
I have a TON of videos to post.
Can you do it on the modern elevator in the elmwood parking garage
Not with out permission now.
Oh
2020/2022
2022 now.
yes i love us
This never never will be a U.S. Elevator ever again
Don't know why the elevator is in fire service I don't like it
This was CLEARLY a demonstration
Ein
This never never will be a U.S. elevator ever again!
Happy May Day
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No
Did you somehow get permission to put the elevator into fire mode?
I don’t know why you even put a fire service mode on this, how can a building made of bricks and asphalt catch on fire?
this was done a long time ago. I guess a car could catch on fire there.
I don’t like that
Ok.
we
Us
I wonder if my DNA is still on those buttons after me visiting it in 2015
Maybe it is :)
Definitely not very safe.
It is not dangerous. Just annoying
Ohhh U.S. Elevator, so sad they made trash stuff for most if their existence
US elevator fire service is very much less than desirable for fire fighters.
@@DieselDucy U.S. Elevators are very much less than desirable elevators in general lol
1:56 what the heck!?!?!? I see a pedestrian signal
Yep
To bad this is a primere
This is a very interesting set up on how this elevator worked with the fire service feature on this elevator before ThyssenKrupp modernized it