I'm not German, but I wonder what's keeping the British in the dark about Google Translate and such. It wouldn't take more than 15 seconds to check the pronunciation.
Kreissäge = Circular saw. It’s pronounced Krice(like ice) zege. That’s pretty close anyhow. Notice the illustration of the cat with the saw blade? He could have tried a little harder to pronounce it better/correctly. After all it’s a German brand, should have been his first clue.
The power of actually hiring designers that don't have awful taste in color. Most bike companies have the nastiest colors/designs outside of their 12k bikes.
Currently selling one of these because im switching to gravel. Its really hard to compare this bike to anything else really. The main selling point for me was the aesthetic. Standert is the ONLY brand in europe that consistently puts out the most gorgeous bike colors. Most of us arent racers so having a bike thats beautiful with very nice decals is in my eyes better than having an ugly bike thats faster. Its sort of like having a restomod Porsche: overpriced, kinda slow but at the same time you love to ride it because the beauty of it motivates you to ride it more. Lovely bike, if i have enough money down the line to own two bikes, I would happily buy another Kreissage just because it isnt always about having the best spec or fastest bike, sometimes you just want to own something beautiful.
This has to be a Gen Z bike because they're not old enough to remember when companies like Voodoo and Niner stopped selling Scandium frames because they all cracked under warranty.
I had a Scatante frame back around 2005. it was SOOOOO cheap (like $200 maybe?) and I guess it was good for the money but obviously that's not saying much.
@@Shadowboostcaad is definitely better, I also got a used caad12 with full ultegra for just $1000, super happy with it. I’m actually in the process of repainting it and using standert as a reference
@@lazypanda1493 I've gotten Supersix Evo HMs for 500 and 680 dollars respectively with full Dura Ace 9000. I just can't fathom how this is anything special
I have a "scandium frame " Kona Major Jake from way back in 2008 . Still ride it but l believe "scandium " was more of a marketing ploy than anything else re. ride quality , frame strength etc. Scandium is extremely expensive . The Kona is essentially an aluminum frame with a very small amount of scandium "magic powder " tossed in the mix . I would guess the bike reviewed is likewise an aluminum frame bike with a tiny percentage of scandium in the alloy to justify the very expensive frame price . Price aside though ,very sweet looking bike !!
The thing with all these "boutique" companies selling off the shelf metal frames for me is: Why would I pay that kind of money when I could literally have a custom frame built to my personal specs made from the same material for the same money or less? At least in my area there's plenty of framebuilders. And you get a custom paintjob in literally any color. If you want a Dedacciai aluminium frame, there's also loads of guys in Italy who happily build one for you. But I guess some people just want the brand and image. Don't get me wrong, though. I like what Standert are doing.
Nice and honest review. Given that you also have an Allez Sprint, would you mind giving us a depth comparison and conclusion which one would you choose? I am honestly waiting for that comparison since I am deciding between those two. Thanks.
I have one and love it. Not the discy one - rim brake. Weighs 8kg exact with pedals & 50mm carbon wheels alu bars, stem, post & 10 speed mechanical ( which i had spare from years back) it cost 3000 euro total ( but the gruppo was no cost). I look at frame price as build to my spec. Allez sprint frames are more expensive. And disc only. So the kreissäge ( however it is pronounced) is a great option for those of us who still like mechanical rim brake bikes and also want an alu frame
Why not most get a CAAD10? 200 dollars gets you a full bike with SRAM Force. Changing bar, stem, and seatpost and the wheelset and it's sub 8 kg for under 700 dollars
This will be interesting to watch. Almost every person I have talked to who has owned one of these have GOTTEN RIDE OF THE BIKE QUICKLY and said that it felt dull, dead, sluggish - AND really stiff... - not the way you'd hope a good aluminum frame will feel.
@@mindsmartie8975 specialized and trek are overpriced, for sure, but they make bikes that any pro will want to ride. They perform. Standert is selling inferior stuff. Show me one pro who would want to race an aluminium vibe bike like that. Performance does matter.
Funny video - I just have learnt I don't have to memorize these words - they will all be cheugy next year... ThnX! The bike looks great - with a noticeable exception of a bit quirky head tube-integrated cockpit profile.
Repeat after me: Kreis-Sä-Ge. Kreis like the Chrys of Chrysler, Sä like in the american pronounciation of sabotage, g like a g in the beginning of a word, such as going.
nah, dont let yourself get lied to. they make it only electronic shifting to save money, but they dont even make the welding areas with a clean transition. they are selling you an overpriced frame. Made in Germany does not necesarily means good quality if the company has people who works per hour and just want to do the least just to go home. I work in Germany and the work culture is not specially amazing at the moment.
Very interesting, because I have been very interested in it, till i habe been at the store and wrote one in Berlin. It is still an amazing looking bike but what i recognized immediately it is so stiff and then if i think about money and weight. 3 points i said i will go for something else but it is the hottest girl in the club…
Standert bikes are so much more expensive than their counterparts. Perhaps Insta/Gen Z is their target audience, but what a missed opportunity to scale by offering genuine value for money and taking on Trek, Specialized, and Giant.
I would relook at the geometry if I were you.. It's more aggressive than 99.9% of the racing bikes the market. The angles are steeper than the Allez Sprint, Cannondale CAAD12, 13, Factor Ostro VAM, Tarmac SL8, Colnago V4Rs... The Chainstain and wheelbase are equal or shorter...
Like the colorways of standert bikes, but those chunky non tapered headtubes are ruining every bike from them, hidden calbes are nice but with that big upper part of the headtube, its way to big for all the other tubes in comparisson.
Dont bully the berlin hippsters so much. Personally i dont understand why anyone would pay for this when there is a boatload of older frames out there that have often similar or superior craftmanship.
Not really sure what most of those words mean as I pride myself on being properly educated. As an older rider in my 50’s I like the looks a lot with the exception of that cat decal.
The 'funny' bits were painful and it compelled me to stop watching a review I was kind of interested in. Humour is a spice that when applied too liberally, wastes the meal. And in this case any meals near it, or in the same building.
Overpriced overhyped. Not even THAT light. WTF. For that price you can get a fully custom hand-made Steel frame by an artisan. With a unique paintjob. Or get an absolute top-notch Chinese brand carbon superbike (Seka, Winspace) that will vastly outperform this. And will weigh 1,5kgs less.
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As a German I flinched everytime he said "Kreissäge" - no cap.
Any proof you're German? As there's far too many youtube comments start with "As a"
Yeap….another German here….or “enasor jerman”
I'm not German, but I wonder what's keeping the British in the dark about Google Translate and such. It wouldn't take more than 15 seconds to check the pronunciation.
like nails on a chalkboard
Kreissäge = Circular saw. It’s pronounced Krice(like ice) zege. That’s pretty close anyhow. Notice the illustration of the cat with the saw blade?
He could have tried a little harder to pronounce it better/correctly. After all it’s a German brand, should have been his first clue.
This video is a hit, assuming the cringe was on purpose
I never heard Kreissäge being pronounced that lovely. You made my day ❤️
my ears are bleeding :D
@@thomaspfaff1209 Come on it’s. Great way to say the word 😊
turned it into french :P
croissant
That bike is straight fire on god fr. If only i wasnt broke ahh i would buy one asap. Cleanest whip in the bunch for sure. No cap
Price is wild. When you’re 1500 quid more than an equivalent specialized, you know you’re really taking the piss.
The frameset is also only 1500 quid
Made in Italy though, and using better quali Alu
The power of actually hiring designers that don't have awful taste in color.
Most bike companies have the nastiest colors/designs outside of their 12k bikes.
trek? lol, except for project one, trek are too lazy to explore color line.
@@Bukangamershould we talk about Canyon then?
The way you slaughter the name Kreissäge is astonishing. 😁 Just repeat, Grice-Say-Gey, haha.
You mean they don't speak French in Berlin???
Cry-Sauge !!! :-D
Currently selling one of these because im switching to gravel. Its really hard to compare this bike to anything else really. The main selling point for me was the aesthetic. Standert is the ONLY brand in europe that consistently puts out the most gorgeous bike colors. Most of us arent racers so having a bike thats beautiful with very nice decals is in my eyes better than having an ugly bike thats faster. Its sort of like having a restomod Porsche: overpriced, kinda slow but at the same time you love to ride it because the beauty of it motivates you to ride it more. Lovely bike, if i have enough money down the line to own two bikes, I would happily buy another Kreissage just because it isnt always about having the best spec or fastest bike, sometimes you just want to own something beautiful.
This has to be a Gen Z bike because they're not old enough to remember when companies like Voodoo and Niner stopped selling Scandium frames because they all cracked under warranty.
Let the Zs experience it. Some of them aren’t good listeners 😂
I had a Scatante frame back around 2005. it was SOOOOO cheap (like $200 maybe?) and I guess it was good for the money but obviously that's not saying much.
Times have changed with Scandium, people have developed it more and aren't making it the same as they used too.
If Cannondale has paint jobs like these for the caad series, they are going to be the most popular bike in the world
I don't understand how this is any better than a CAAD10. Hell, I bought my second one for 200 dollars this year
@@Shadowboostcaad is definitely better, I also got a used caad12 with full ultegra for just $1000, super happy with it. I’m actually in the process of repainting it and using standert as a reference
@@lazypanda1493 I've gotten Supersix Evo HMs for 500 and 680 dollars respectively with full Dura Ace 9000. I just can't fathom how this is anything special
@@Shadowboost mostly the look I reckon
I’m taking notes on the lingo to embarrass my kids with
I have a "scandium frame " Kona Major Jake from way back in 2008 . Still ride it but l believe "scandium " was more of a marketing ploy than anything else re. ride quality , frame strength etc. Scandium is extremely expensive . The Kona is essentially an aluminum frame with a very small amount of scandium "magic powder " tossed in the mix . I would guess the bike reviewed is likewise an aluminum frame bike with a tiny percentage of scandium in the alloy to justify the very expensive frame price . Price aside though ,very sweet looking bike !!
scamdium
One of the best reviews on the internet! not just in the cycling world ;)
Bike is bangin' but the price is well sketch.
Haha! Touché
The thing with all these "boutique" companies selling off the shelf metal frames for me is: Why would I pay that kind of money when I could literally have a custom frame built to my personal specs made from the same material for the same money or less? At least in my area there's plenty of framebuilders. And you get a custom paintjob in literally any color. If you want a Dedacciai aluminium frame, there's also loads of guys in Italy who happily build one for you. But I guess some people just want the brand and image. Don't get me wrong, though. I like what Standert are doing.
can you give any examples on such brands?
Credibility? They need to pass iso standards etc with their bikes.
The Kreissäge is made in Italy by those italian frame builders you speak of, in close colaboration with Dedaccai.
This is the only bike with disc brakes I find interesting. Saw couple of them on Stelvio last year. The colours on these are lovely.
Would you recommend the Condor Italia RC over the standert?
Great vid. Really enjoyed the vibe check
I want that Allez sprint
Or caad will do the job
Nice and honest review.
Given that you also have an Allez Sprint, would you mind giving us a depth comparison and conclusion which one would you choose?
I am honestly waiting for that comparison since I am deciding between those two.
Thanks.
I have one and love it. Not the discy one - rim brake. Weighs 8kg exact with pedals & 50mm carbon wheels alu bars, stem, post & 10 speed mechanical ( which i had spare from years back) it cost 3000 euro total ( but the gruppo was no cost). I look at frame price as build to my spec. Allez sprint frames are more expensive. And disc only. So the kreissäge ( however it is pronounced) is a great option for those of us who still like mechanical rim brake bikes and also want an alu frame
Why not most get a CAAD10? 200 dollars gets you a full bike with SRAM Force. Changing bar, stem, and seatpost and the wheelset and it's sub 8 kg for under 700 dollars
thats too much money for an aluminium bike and 8,3kg...
Great video, very entertaining to watch
Dat whip is bangin - propa mint blud!
This will be interesting to watch. Almost every person I have talked to who has owned one of these have GOTTEN RIDE OF THE BIKE QUICKLY and said that it felt dull, dead, sluggish - AND really stiff... - not the way you'd hope a good aluminum frame will feel.
❤ yes very educational, i always wanna one like my next bike but now i think twice now - i thought its TITANIUm
Could this be the same frame set as a Condor Italia but with a different badge?
How to make an inferior product, bet it all on marketing, and sell it for a fortune. It's so intellectually insulting, it's almost beautiful. Almost.
It’s a cool bike, unfortunately, like many overpriced products, eg Specialized, Trek, whatever.
@@mindsmartie8975 specialized and trek are overpriced, for sure, but they make bikes that any pro will want to ride. They perform. Standert is selling inferior stuff. Show me one pro who would want to race an aluminium vibe bike like that. Performance does matter.
This bike is so slay.. love me an alloy frame. I have the Edmonda ALR and chose it over carbon
Now I finally know! Could you review the Rose X-Lite 06?
We would love to but unfortunately they no longer ship to the UK so going to tricky to get our hands on one
Let’s all get White socks and White Helmets, who gives a frag ?
Presumably it would be quite comfortable with 32mm tyres at 60psi?
I love the look and I’m seriously weighing one up but it’s hard to ignore options from winspace
Funny video - I just have learnt I don't have to memorize these words - they will all be cheugy next year... ThnX!
The bike looks great - with a noticeable exception of a bit quirky head tube-integrated cockpit profile.
The frame is also made in Italy, which is why it's more expensive than its competition ;)
I know a couple of people who have these, they are very nice.
Great video!!! Great bike
I wonder if this is the same frame set as the Condor Italia with a different badge..
Perfect bike for fashion victims.
Nice bikes. Can't wait to buy a Canyon.
Buying an aluminium bike for this price ist just delusional. youre getting at least the same specs for the same price with a carbon frame!
Repeat after me: Kreis-Sä-Ge. Kreis like the Chrys of Chrysler, Sä like in the american pronounciation of sabotage, g like a g in the beginning of a word, such as going.
Cry-Sag ?
cries-za-guh
thats a posh caad 10
Can likely get a custom Walty built Ti bike with the exact same geometry for half the price.
as a german, i want to apologize for the lame ass comments from other germans
What about.... that other thing..? (I'm joking around)
Really cool bike.
I keeping with this review, press F for those white shoes.
F
You can get the exact same frameset that spruced by Deda at competitor 8bar in berlin for almost half the money lol
8bar is the cube of the boutique genZ painted over alloy frame brands.
Oh, those "dreggy" shoes give me the "ick"
nah, dont let yourself get lied to. they make it only electronic shifting to save money, but they dont even make the welding areas with a clean transition. they are selling you an overpriced frame. Made in Germany does not necesarily means good quality if the company has people who works per hour and just want to do the least just to go home. I work in Germany and the work culture is not specially amazing at the moment.
Very interesting, because I have been very interested in it, till i habe been at the store and wrote one in Berlin. It is still an amazing looking bike but what i recognized immediately it is so stiff and then if i think about money and weight. 3 points i said i will go for something else but it is the hottest girl in the club…
Do I need to wear white socks over the leg warmers when riding a Standert??
Pretty sure that's a rule
I'd buy a Standert track bike before their road bike.
Scott were making scandium frames in 2003
For that price... Thats a NOPE.. alloy and overpriced. Just get a SL7 at this point. Lmao
No way I’d pay that much for an alloy frame…
Now in the UK For 4k you can have tarmac sl8😮 on rival with carbon wheels
Standert bikes are so much more expensive than their counterparts. Perhaps Insta/Gen Z is their target audience, but what a missed opportunity to scale by offering genuine value for money and taking on Trek, Specialized, and Giant.
I wonder if the presenter knows what a Kreissäge is 😂
The bike looks great, but for the price, I wouldn't consider alloy frame.
I would relook at the geometry if I were you.. It's more aggressive than 99.9% of the racing bikes the market. The angles are steeper than the Allez Sprint, Cannondale CAAD12, 13, Factor Ostro VAM, Tarmac SL8, Colnago V4Rs... The Chainstain and wheelbase are equal or shorter...
Like the colorways of standert bikes, but those chunky non tapered headtubes are ruining every bike from them, hidden calbes are nice but with that big upper part of the headtube, its way to big for all the other tubes in comparisson.
27.2mm seatpost, less faff headset, what’s not to love!?
The price
For the college kid that races and would’ve bought an Allez Sprint, but has a trust fund.
I have a golden steal version….+500 aura 😂
Dont bully the berlin hippsters so much.
Personally i dont understand why anyone would pay for this when there is a boatload of older frames out there that have often similar or superior craftmanship.
Its because you only get +500 Aura by stopping by a café in Berlin in your PNS with your Standert paying 8€ for a coffee with oatmilk.
Not really sure what most of those words mean as I pride myself on being properly educated. As an older rider in my 50’s I like the looks a lot with the exception of that cat decal.
Kai (as in sky) - sega (as in sega)
0:18 Jamie, trust me, you can go faster. Just clean your shoes!
To be fair, I've had a rim-brake Kreissäge for about 4 years now and it slaps. Haven't seen another in the SW either so it turns heads too.
Krysarge😂
5000 €€ for a steel bike ?? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
all their money went into marketing
road cc brainrot before gta 6😭
It's nice but I think a Mason or Fairlight are better value for money.........
Agreed
0:53 Eh! Jamie, EVERYTHING ends up in the Oxford English Dictionary . . . the world's BEST!
Gen Z refer TO OED for their own education!
cringe or not I thought this was unironically hilarious
Oh no, the road cc kiss of death. Fun video though lol. Although you're a bit too young for the boomer jokes about Gen Z to really land lol.
The 'funny' bits were painful and it compelled me to stop watching a review I was kind of interested in.
Humour is a spice that when applied too liberally, wastes the meal. And in this case any meals near it, or in the same building.
Standert was cool 5 years ago. Now they be cashing out the genZ noobs.
Tough watch
"Kreissäge" is circular saw.
Litty
Looks like a Cannondale or Klein
Overpriced overhyped. Not even THAT light. WTF. For that price you can get a fully custom hand-made Steel frame by an artisan. With a unique paintjob. Or get an absolute top-notch Chinese brand carbon superbike (Seka, Winspace) that will vastly outperform this. And will weigh 1,5kgs less.
A Seka or winspace 😂
Pretty sure those are 50s not 52s
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Craisage hahaha in german it‘s pronounced KREISSÄGE! It means round blade saw 🪚
Circular saw
no one use cheugy btw
Darn, that one was our favourite!
Is this bike fr fr ?
FR!
Squeeky breaks ffs.
my custom built true temper fane is lighter and cheaper and more customer than this at 8kg and it is cable-disc. so nah
That bike is no diggity
Zed! 🤨
No Caps renders just facts redundant....rather verbose....nahmean
At least their welds aren’t as dog shite as the ones on Allez Sprint
Well well , alloy bikes are fantastic ❤
Is it pronounced as "Christ, A Gay?"
"Crice-saash" 🤣 lol
ˈkʁaɪ̯sˌzɛːɡə