Bro I can't wait anymore the ending isn't anywhere close. Someone please bring the magic crystal and show me the future I really wanna see how this ends😭😭
When the whole hybe/ Mhj lawsuit started (we armys ) didn’t care at all! Like we didn’t care! Bc we are here to support our group! But when Mhj started mentioning bts in her text “wanting to end bts” and “send them to military soon” that’s when our claws came out. The whole kpop community united to blame bts in this situation even when bts has nothing to do with this. Then ppl protested in front of hybe with the middle finger up with pictures of bts . I was like ugh? Nj was marketed as bts sisters and then we find out that Nj doesn’t feel that way. It was all a lie. That is why we don’t support Nj. Also Nj has been completely silent to defend the other groups.
Because since BTS won award, other fandom started to hate them. How can group from small company won against the BIG 3 (SM, JYP, YG)? When BTS got success, they did not use mainstream South Korea media, so mainstream South Korea media also hate them. When someone attack BTS, most kpop fans and mainstream South Korea media will support the attacking.
It must be hard to stay in the middle and not take sides. I do respect that. It's not where I am because I see the damage that MHJ and New Jeans are doing to K pop and I don't like the hate train that most Bunnies seem to be on. I felt sorry for the girls at first and felt they had been groomed and manipulated. While that may be true, I think at some point they need to be responsible for their actions. After watching their lives, the disrespect they have shown to other groups, people and how they throw shade to others I just can't support them. I don't wish them ill. I am just tired of them and wish this whole thing was over.
I'm not trying to be rude but genuinely asking which group did they ever shade? I've only seen mhj do that to illit and indirectly lsf but never seen nj ever throw shade at any group
@@lindas5511 Bro sameee, I also felt sorry for them. I was even rooting for them after JK posted on insta about them. But after seeing the whole national assembly bit and their livestream where Minji was praising Hanni for creating drama, I'm done. And I don't understand how they want to leave ador without paying anything, while Hanni is literally still using ADOR's contract to justify her stay in Korea. Basically, it's a huge disappointment how they've handled this situation
@@lindas5511 Staying in the middle is and should be the most logical thing to do, why take sides? Isn't Kpop music? Doesn't people listen to music and artists based on how it sounds to them? So why should anyone's feelings change towards them or care what's happening outside of the music? Nobody knows them personally, nobody actually knows the entire situation from either side. I think it's weird people choose sides. Either you enjoy their music or you don't... Period
@@BTS2012-t2n That's where they went wrong and that is called manipulation. They're definitely not cruel, those girls adore lsf so much they would never throw shade at them and idk abt illit but i'm pretty sure if illit's ceo wasn't such a pervert and mhj wasn't such a narcissist they would hv been close. Yes, they support her but if u think abt it to them she is the one who brought them so far, who helped them hv a sucessful debut even though they were just kids(idk why she chose all minors the paedo allegations might be true but that's another reason why they're close to her). She used to give them a lot of freedom when she was incharge that idols normally don't get so now that woman takes advantage of that and has managed to convince them that they would be nowhere without her. It's sad but they truly believe that they can't do much without her, they don't trust themselves
For me the whole thing took a very serious turn when NJs unilaterally declared their contract void. Without letting the court decide. This is such a serious issue that I cannot support them from that point on. NJs must make their case in court if they want to terminate their contract. Repeatedly violating their contract on the way to court is NOT the way to go. Prove your case.
There is a 4th side if you will: those who are fed up with Hybe industry plants, mediocre trainees debuting with brand deals and gigs already secured. New Jeans being one of them, and the best example of why you don’t buy your rookies the way into stardom. Hybe got 18 year old Minji to be a Chanel ambassador within a few months, only one comeback and no previous appearance wearing anything remotely similar to Chanel. What they got in return is her going live with a tacky MHJ T-shirt. They got them on lollapalooza with less than 10 songs in their whole discography, and now they think they can do the same thing on their own. Spoiled brats are made
Sure… but I still listen to their music. That is what makes you famous. Good songs and good dancing. I need something to listen to when I workout. I don’t care too much about how they sing live. As long as I am entertained. Sadly this is the truth. You can be the best singer in the world but if you don’t catch the publics interest, your too boring and if you don’t have a great song to back you up, then you won’t be popular. Hybe is picking people who just have that star potential. They are interesting. They can improve later. They have a cute vibe that turns into hot vibe.
@@SAnn1747 I get your point, and I agree. But I ask you this: are they interesting? Do they have star potential? What you said is exactly my point, they have catchy music, but that's on the song producers, not them. If they leave the songwriters behind, which they did, what do they have left on the table for you to keep listening? Wouldn't you be more likely to still listen to the work of same songwriters but executed by another Hybe group? Like, if you are in for the music, would you mind ILLIT singing Ditto? Looking at AI covers, they'd sound pretty good and similar. Compare it to someone who has star potential and has cultivated a persona over time, like Wonyoung, or the BP girls, or with talent, like RedVelvet, they can stand on their own despite a different agency/producer/songwriter.
you can definitely attach blame to the company for not allowing groups to "earn" their endorsements or opportunities but it doesn't really work when it comes to NewJeans (and many other groups just using newjeans bc they're the subject matter) NewJeans before all this drama were one of the latest groups to debut of their gen and the most popular group. They definitely made up for hybe giving them opportunities so early on without "earning" them. And if all the information being thrown around about there being "preferred" ggs within hybe I think if hybe is buying rookie success it would have started with le sserafim. What the girls of NJ have turned into now does not define how actually insane their popularity was/is and endorsements and concerts are not the way you get people to listen to groups at that scale. Example: Aespa had a set at Coachella in 2022 but that performance is not what made them what they are now, Wongyoung is the poster child for Korean brands, but that doesn't make me listen to IVE
You are the third category: HATERS. Fed by delusions about how the world should be instead of the world is. You should be fed up with the whole kpop industry and global music industry based on what you said. But yet, HYBE is the only company you mentioned. Isn’t that interesting. So no. No need for 4th category becuase people like you certainly are the 3rd category. The haters.
I did support NJ because, let’s be honest, all entertainment companies are money driven and trash. But I stopped supporting them when they got involved into this drama and were mentioning MHJ in every public appearance they made. Recent events also made me lose my sympathy for them. Go to the court, prove your case and then make public statements. I think highly of them as musicians, performers. They have great music. But their image is ruined for me. But I wish it was different.
They should've focus on making music. Mhj is not god or prophet. Show your fans you can survive without her or under bad workplace environment. Billions of adults out there suffering bad workplace, but they bear with it and survive. They are idols, but they are also just an employee. Not boss. Kids who supporting them blindly don't even understand the seriousness of their actions.
I get you with the media play thing, but what would you call it when instead of going through the legal system or meeting with the company, you do You Tube videos, press conferencess, and press releases ahead of anything anyone else puts out? Or when HYBE made the dumb decision of trusting Dispatch at the beginning of the MHJ saga? Both sides did it or are doing it. NJs continue to call MHJ their CEO, which is troubling for me. With every action they take, I keep losing hope they will see the light and make decicion that will benefit themselves and not some adult woman who calls herself their mother, cares only about herself and is using them as a shield. They are making it hard to stay neutral or on their side.
Here is the idiot I was talking about in this video this is all you know what to say because your brain can't comprehen more complex constructive comments lol
Yes! This is a recurring drama; there is always new stuff about New Jeans. Everyone is talking about them. And if you're tired of this content, you wouldn't have clicked, watched the video, and commented. It means you care a lot about what the creator said.
if this is your first time discovering how the internet works here's some basic info: 1. News channels cover videos on NEW news 2. RUclips channels post content that will get views 3. You don't have to watch content that you don't want to or that you know isn't for you
You have a right to do bad or good things. But whatever you do have consequences. And all human have free choice.... except you admit that you are not human.
Bro I can't wait anymore the ending isn't anywhere close. Someone please bring the magic crystal and show me the future I really wanna see how this ends😭😭
😅😅😅😅Same i really want to know how this end
When the whole hybe/ Mhj lawsuit started (we armys ) didn’t care at all! Like we didn’t care! Bc we are here to support our group! But when Mhj started mentioning bts in her text “wanting to end bts” and “send them to military soon” that’s when our claws came out. The whole kpop community united to blame bts in this situation even when bts has nothing to do with this. Then ppl protested in front of hybe with the middle finger up with pictures of bts . I was like ugh?
Nj was marketed as bts sisters and then we find out that Nj doesn’t feel that way. It was all a lie. That is why we don’t support Nj.
Also Nj has been completely silent to defend the other groups.
Because since BTS won award, other fandom started to hate them. How can group from small company won against the BIG 3 (SM, JYP, YG)? When BTS got success, they did not use mainstream South Korea media, so mainstream South Korea media also hate them. When someone attack BTS, most kpop fans and mainstream South Korea media will support the attacking.
It must be hard to stay in the middle and not take sides. I do respect that. It's not where I am because I see the damage that MHJ and New Jeans are doing to K pop and I don't like the hate train that most Bunnies seem to be on. I felt sorry for the girls at first and felt they had been groomed and manipulated. While that may be true, I think at some point they need to be responsible for their actions. After watching their lives, the disrespect they have shown to other groups, people and how they throw shade to others I just can't support them. I don't wish them ill. I am just tired of them and wish this whole thing was over.
I'm not trying to be rude but genuinely asking which group did they ever shade? I've only seen mhj do that to illit and indirectly lsf but never seen nj ever throw shade at any group
@@kairalove5402 If you are supporting someone's wrong doing then isn't it supposed to mean that you think he or she us right and you support it?
@@lindas5511 Bro sameee, I also felt sorry for them. I was even rooting for them after JK posted on insta about them. But after seeing the whole national assembly bit and their livestream where Minji was praising Hanni for creating drama, I'm done. And I don't understand how they want to leave ador without paying anything, while Hanni is literally still using ADOR's contract to justify her stay in Korea. Basically, it's a huge disappointment how they've handled this situation
@@lindas5511 Staying in the middle is and should be the most logical thing to do, why take sides? Isn't Kpop music? Doesn't people listen to music and artists based on how it sounds to them? So why should anyone's feelings change towards them or care what's happening outside of the music? Nobody knows them personally, nobody actually knows the entire situation from either side. I think it's weird people choose sides. Either you enjoy their music or you don't... Period
@@BTS2012-t2n That's where they went wrong and that is called manipulation. They're definitely not cruel, those girls adore lsf so much they would never throw shade at them and idk abt illit but i'm pretty sure if illit's ceo wasn't such a pervert and mhj wasn't such a narcissist they would hv been close. Yes, they support her but if u think abt it to them she is the one who brought them so far, who helped them hv a sucessful debut even though they were just kids(idk why she chose all minors the paedo allegations might be true but that's another reason why they're close to her). She used to give them a lot of freedom when she was incharge that idols normally don't get so now that woman takes advantage of that and has managed to convince them that they would be nowhere without her. It's sad but they truly believe that they can't do much without her, they don't trust themselves
For me the whole thing took a very serious turn when NJs unilaterally declared their contract void. Without letting the court decide. This is such a serious issue that I cannot support them from that point on. NJs must make their case in court if they want to terminate their contract. Repeatedly violating their contract on the way to court is NOT the way to go. Prove your case.
There is a 4th side if you will: those who are fed up with Hybe industry plants, mediocre trainees debuting with brand deals and gigs already secured. New Jeans being one of them, and the best example of why you don’t buy your rookies the way into stardom. Hybe got 18 year old Minji to be a Chanel ambassador within a few months, only one comeback and no previous appearance wearing anything remotely similar to Chanel. What they got in return is her going live with a tacky MHJ T-shirt. They got them on lollapalooza with less than 10 songs in their whole discography, and now they think they can do the same thing on their own. Spoiled brats are made
Sure… but I still listen to their music. That is what makes you famous. Good songs and good dancing. I need something to listen to when I workout. I don’t care too much about how they sing live. As long as I am entertained. Sadly this is the truth. You can be the best singer in the world but if you don’t catch the publics interest, your too boring and if you don’t have a great song to back you up, then you won’t be popular. Hybe is picking people who just have that star potential. They are interesting. They can improve later. They have a cute vibe that turns into hot vibe.
@@SAnn1747 I get your point, and I agree. But I ask you this: are they interesting? Do they have star potential? What you said is exactly my point, they have catchy music, but that's on the song producers, not them. If they leave the songwriters behind, which they did, what do they have left on the table for you to keep listening? Wouldn't you be more likely to still listen to the work of same songwriters but executed by another Hybe group? Like, if you are in for the music, would you mind ILLIT singing Ditto? Looking at AI covers, they'd sound pretty good and similar.
Compare it to someone who has star potential and has cultivated a persona over time, like Wonyoung, or the BP girls, or with talent, like RedVelvet, they can stand on their own despite a different agency/producer/songwriter.
you can definitely attach blame to the company for not allowing groups to "earn" their endorsements or opportunities but it doesn't really work when it comes to NewJeans (and many other groups just using newjeans bc they're the subject matter) NewJeans before all this drama were one of the latest groups to debut of their gen and the most popular group. They definitely made up for hybe giving them opportunities so early on without "earning" them. And if all the information being thrown around about there being "preferred" ggs within hybe I think if hybe is buying rookie success it would have started with le sserafim.
What the girls of NJ have turned into now does not define how actually insane their popularity was/is and endorsements and concerts are not the way you get people to listen to groups at that scale.
Example: Aespa had a set at Coachella in 2022 but that performance is not what made them what they are now, Wongyoung is the poster child for Korean brands, but that doesn't make me listen to IVE
You are the third category: HATERS. Fed by delusions about how the world should be instead of the world is. You should be fed up with the whole kpop industry and global music industry based on what you said. But yet, HYBE is the only company you mentioned. Isn’t that interesting. So no. No need for 4th category becuase people like you certainly are the 3rd category. The haters.
@ yeah, I do hate industry plants getting ahead of deserving trainees
I was behind New Jeans but the more drama that is happening, and they keep MHJ their savior, the more I am turning against them for being too naive.
You are missing another group…the fandoms of the other idols that MHJ besmirched.
There is a 4th faction... fans of new jeans who are frustrated with Min Hee Jin influence over these girls who don't care albout them.
I did support NJ because, let’s be honest, all entertainment companies are money driven and trash. But I stopped supporting them when they got involved into this drama and were mentioning MHJ in every public appearance they made. Recent events also made me lose my sympathy for them. Go to the court, prove your case and then make public statements. I think highly of them as musicians, performers. They have great music. But their image is ruined for me. But I wish it was different.
They should've focus on making music. Mhj is not god or prophet. Show your fans you can survive without her or under bad workplace environment. Billions of adults out there suffering bad workplace, but they bear with it and survive. They are idols, but they are also just an employee. Not boss. Kids who supporting them blindly don't even understand the seriousness of their actions.
I get you with the media play thing, but what would you call it when instead of going through the legal system or meeting with the company, you do You Tube videos, press conferencess, and press releases ahead of anything anyone else puts out? Or when HYBE made the dumb decision of trusting Dispatch at the beginning of the MHJ saga? Both sides did it or are doing it.
NJs continue to call MHJ their CEO, which is troubling for me. With every action they take, I keep losing hope they will see the light and make decicion that will benefit themselves and not some adult woman who calls herself their mother, cares only about herself and is using them as a shield. They are making it hard to stay neutral or on their side.
Im just here for the drama while waiting for BTS to comeback
@@Everythingz127 🤣🤣🤣
There is a 4th group...the ones who see good and bad on both sides...Thats where I stand
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I'm with the idols
Oh here go again...another NJ video. This is all you know how to do.
Here is the idiot I was talking about in this video this is all you know what to say because your brain can't comprehen more complex constructive comments lol
Yes! This is a recurring drama; there is always new stuff about New Jeans. Everyone is talking about them. And if you're tired of this content, you wouldn't have clicked, watched the video, and commented. It means you care a lot about what the creator said.
Oh here we go again... Watching another NJ video you are already fed up with! 😂
if this is your first time discovering how the internet works here's some basic info:
1. News channels cover videos on NEW news
2. RUclips channels post content that will get views
3. You don't have to watch content that you don't want to or that you know isn't for you
Give me my 3 mins back.
@@flameout12345 3 min back, did you get it ?
Why? I mean I think you could've tell that a few seconds in it was HER OPINION, supported with facts. Not the other way around.
@ lol I love how people make up arguments in their head. F’ing hilarious.
That's what you doing here lol 😆 so why come back? I thought i gave your 3 min back but you wasting it again ,
@ I didn’t come for you. I came back for delusional comment. Did you think I came back for you? Really? SMH 🤦🏻♂️
what if im hater/tea sipper
Free speech, just don't curse and lie
You have a right to do bad or good things. But whatever you do have consequences. And all human have free choice.... except you admit that you are not human.