when I was young and dumb and was playing AOE2 for the first time I somehow confused a bunch of teutonic knights my opponent left lying arond disorganized for villagers and attacked them with some light cav It did not go well
Ofcourse not, AoE 2 had some great voice acting and I guess we heard it several (hundred) times, while playing them through... - Tripoli Guards : Chaaaarge! - Bonjour Joan, my colleague and I will escort you to the Dauphin, or else we will die trying...
Nice video to point out the importance of micro management, it can ve very frustrating to lose a battle against enemy which has 5 times less units than you
I remember when I was like ten or so I'd just put the AI on easy and do nothing but make armies of unique units because I honestly thought they were the best unit for each nation
Its actually why we banned the mamelukes for our friend when playing with him - he is a top 2 % starcraft 2 player... and we cant do anything against his mameluks - nothing can beat the combination of mobility and dmg those guys do - the thing that went best til today is building onagers - but they are so damn expensive that you still will lose the war
As a main Teutonic player of nearly 20 years, I just couldn't stop laughing....Not only because of the general badassery that is a fully upgraded Elite Teutonic Knight, but how fucking slow they are!! It's like, "Come back here! Your doom awaits you!!" Any battle involving the Teutons is a commitment and takes awhile....AHAHA!!
Mameluks, my favorite unit in AoE 2. I remember those good games I had. With a band of 20-30 mameluks I could kill pretty much any army, with minimal losses. And I actually fought real players.
Mameluke and monk is key for saladin last mission, if you play defensive. Only need 30 mameluke + 4 monk as healer to clean all lion hearted, franks and templar attacker untill their army turn into massive villager looking for wood
Doesn't matter that much. Elite Mameluke with full upgrade deals (10+4) Melee damage while Elite Teutonic Knights fully upgraded has (10+3) Melee armour --> 1 damage per hit. True, with armour, hp, and speed upgrade, it would be better, but this is the example of bad unit choice. The best unit from Saracen to counter this is actually their excellent Heavy Cavalry Archer, or even Hand Cannoneer if massed enough.
If you have full upgraded mamluks, 70 or 80 mamluks can get this. I meant ' owned ' all TT knts. This is not ' much better ' This is ultra different than 200 counted mamluks can't get this.
Again, if you have full upgrade on Elite Mameluke, you still need 100 hit to kill a single FU Elite Teutonic Knight. And you need to micro and will be pushed back intensely. In a real game, this is costly, as you may need to pay attention else where, or cannot afford to be pushed back. Better to always mix in half Heavy Cavalry Archers, and now your combo not only immune to enemy Heavy Cavalry, and these tanky Teutonic Knights, but also won't die too fast if loads of Halbs happen to get close to you.
Para mi, los caballeros de la orden teutonica son la mejor unidad del juego, practicamente no tienen debilidades, mientras que otras unidades que vencen a los mismos caballeros si las tienen, ya que la mayoria son caballería xd
It's actually funny if you read history of Mongol invasions and read about the Europe campaign: how Mongol horse-mounted archers laid waste to several European armies composed of mainly those heavy, slow knights. And the Mongols did all that with only half of their force, with the other half being in Vietnam after the Sung dynasty.
I think that's because of two things. First, europeans were just not used to dealing with cavalry archers, especially those with tactics such as the mongols. And secondly... the mongols knew to stay away from swords when they were using bows. The AI just isn't great at keeping ranged units alive.
"Composed of mainly those heavy, slow knights" No, not all, during the XIIIth century european armies consisted mainly of light troops on foot wielding bardiches, crossbows and stuff like that. The knights were not that slow but weren't numerous. During the mongol invasions of Hungary a battle between Hungarians and Mongols viewed the victory of the latters but the mounted knights clad in iron, men and horse, were nearly impervious to arrows. In attempt to prevent a nigtmarish second invasion of Hungary the king insisted that his nobility should be more equipped like this and built many stone castles at the same time, and it worked. The Mongols were superior tactically to most of their foes while being outnumbered most of the time, against people as diverse as Chinese, Persians, Arabs, Slavs, Polish, Germans ... Sometimes numbers aren't a matter; Alexander the Great vanquished the mighty achemenid empire with far fewer men after all.
also,you'd be microing for...8000 seconds.if you synch your shots perfectly with their RoF,thats is also,the beauty of TK's is their ability to protect siege,anything that isnt called catapract will not bite the bullet that is TK's+siege.Theyre only as strong as their backup
Yeah, 500 elefants lose to a cavalry archer, how many hours u have to spend?? No player would fight melee agaisnt tks and no player would leave their tks chasing enemies like that, how u love sayin bs we all know
video: the AI sucks at managing things to the point where 40 elite teutonic nights can beat 5 times as many mamelukes the comments section: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DEUS VULT IS RACIST REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Elite Teutonic Knights are extremely strong, but they can only defend, could not attack. If you are only defending your VERY long ranged castle from Paladins or Elite Huskarls, then Teutonic Knights would be effective.
Mamelukes are hit-n-run strategy, you can't use them in melee fights like this, anybody can use a single Mameluke to kill those 40 knights using hit-n-run but it will take like 40 hours xD
Now next video how about you take 40 mamelukes and absolutely slaughter 200 elite teutonic knights because whichever army you micro is going to win in this type of "experiment"
In reality if you try to have Mamelukes fight Teutonic Knights, that is a really bad fight to take. ETK can 1 v 1 a fully upgraded paladin, but they're really slow. Sure the Mamelukes could have kited them away, but still that is a really bad fight to take. Really the only infantry units that match up well are the Jaguar Warrior and the Samurai. However, Mameluke bonus vs cavalry and their speed make them much more useful overall.
Well... Elite vs non elite. Mamelukes won't attack before they are being attacked, could do a lot of dmg before they (Teutonic knights) are even close :D
when I was young and dumb and was playing AOE2 for the first time I somehow confused a bunch of teutonic knights my opponent left lying arond disorganized for villagers and attacked them with some light cav
It did not go well
;")
Heeheeheehee!
Lmao lmfao. I'm an actual ancestor of the Teutonic knights. So a teuton playing as the teutons. Paradoxical no?
@@aliencatcrew3336 you mean descendant, right?
@@hikariyami07 i guess but my family crest and bloodline goes back to them and before them how about ancestor that descended from them. Lol.
They left one alive to tell the tale
Gooba Jungle Boy - The Teutonic Knights send their regards.
OMG! an abandoned house ? no a Saracens ambush
Nostalgia attack!
It’s not no it’s nuuu
I've thought I am the only one who remembers that.
Ofcourse not, AoE 2 had some great voice acting and I guess we heard it several (hundred) times, while playing them through...
- Tripoli Guards : Chaaaarge!
- Bonjour Joan, my colleague and I will escort you to the Dauphin, or else we will die trying...
I am Jean de Metz, and I will protect you with my life.
Nice video to point out the importance of micro management, it can ve very frustrating to lose a battle against enemy which has 5 times less units than you
ünlü oldun el salla
yeah you re fcking right about that mate
yup they could have circled them
they wouldn't have won
but they would have done more damage
Micro are for pussys. Real pros stay and die.
thass fuckin right
SALADIN WHERE ARE YOU GOING WITH THAT LARGE ARMEEEEHHHH
Great army*
Azariah Kyras he clearly never played a campaign
Azariah Kyras my favorite are goths, go halbs!
exoriente lux wtf is that supposed to mean
exoriente lux wololo
Now try 40 cpu knights against 1 mameluke controlled by an actual player...
That would be like an hour long video.
Pff, wtf, u can try 500 war elefants agaisnt a mameluke or cavalry archer and u would still win
Try this: 1 berserk vs 40 teutonic knights
kite to heal up while avoid getting blocked
Thats dumb af
or a viper car against knights
I remember when I was like ten or so I'd just put the AI on easy and do nothing but make armies of unique units because I honestly thought they were the best unit for each nation
You can beat any number of Teutonic knights with 30 Mamelukes by micro combats
true
Not if you're surrounded
That's still not much of a problem, since in that case the enemy would profit from your wasted time and focus (for a very long time).
Its actually why we banned the mamelukes for our friend when playing with him - he is a top 2 % starcraft 2 player... and we cant do anything against his mameluks - nothing can beat the combination of mobility and dmg those guys do - the thing that went best til today is building onagers - but they are so damn expensive that you still will lose the war
Couldn't foot archers, especially long range ones, make short work of Mameluks? Those and hand cannoners should be their absolute counter.
As a main Teutonic player of nearly 20 years, I just couldn't stop laughing....Not only because of the general badassery that is a fully upgraded Elite Teutonic Knight, but how fucking slow they are!! It's like, "Come back here! Your doom awaits you!!" Any battle involving the Teutons is a commitment and takes awhile....AHAHA!!
shhhhhaahahahahh
Teutons are literally a slow moving wall that crushes anything in it's path.
Xdd the last mameluke was like: Nope! And escaped xd
Always leave one to tell the story.
Looks more like the AI thought "Oh, there's some unexplored territory!"
AI always explores with one unit
He’s like bitch im out xD
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when catholicism get anger
I think a more accurate comment would be "With Catholics get exposed to gamma radiation"
With Chuck Norris acceding to be catholic
It's like antibiotics fighting an infection.
Islamfection :V with Allantibiotics
andresaureo fuck you
SuperMrBentley fuck you. islamphobe
Iron Mocker you are not edgy or clever, you are just a shit stain islamphobe
Karl Wytoldus Janis de Voorsbergh not using it as an insult, just an observation of you and your edgelord friendemies and your terrible racist bs
Mameluks, my favorite unit in AoE 2. I remember those good games I had. With a band of 20-30 mameluks I could kill pretty much any army, with minimal losses. And I actually fought real players.
Mangudais have the range advantage over mamelukes.
If you had just attacked moved the mamelukes forward, they would have won
DEUS VULT!!
Ye ?
Deus Vult You have arrived! Go forth and teach those Mamelukes a lesson!
No nobis DOMINE !
AVE MARIA
INFADEL
The english could attack at anytime ! you have some walls already but you should complete them as soon as u have enough stone..
meh if controlling those mameluke would be
Mameluke : 200
Teutonic knight : 0
Mameluke and monk is key for saladin last mission, if you play defensive. Only need 30 mameluke + 4 monk as healer to clean all lion hearted, franks and templar attacker untill their army turn into massive villager looking for wood
Like the Riders of Rohan lol. Just dived straight in.
SPARTANS! WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION?
But... 40 ELITE Teutonic Knight vs 200 NON-ELITE Mamelukes
plus, without any upgrades for mamelukes
Doesn't matter that much. Elite Mameluke with full upgrade deals (10+4) Melee damage while Elite Teutonic Knights fully upgraded has (10+3) Melee armour --> 1 damage per hit. True, with armour, hp, and speed upgrade, it would be better, but this is the example of bad unit choice. The best unit from Saracen to counter this is actually their excellent Heavy Cavalry Archer, or even Hand Cannoneer if massed enough.
Fimpny no elit and no up blacksmith
If you have full upgraded mamluks, 70 or 80 mamluks can get this. I meant ' owned ' all TT knts. This is not ' much better ' This is ultra different than 200 counted mamluks can't get this.
Again, if you have full upgrade on Elite Mameluke, you still need 100 hit to kill a single FU Elite Teutonic Knight. And you need to micro and will be pushed back intensely. In a real game, this is costly, as you may need to pay attention else where, or cannot afford to be pushed back. Better to always mix in half Heavy Cavalry Archers, and now your combo not only immune to enemy Heavy Cavalry, and these tanky Teutonic Knights, but also won't die too fast if loads of Halbs happen to get close to you.
The medieval II teutonic music emmediatly hypes me up
you are disgusting,
Silly Billy Explain why
Your islamphobic username, thats why.
Silly Billy A phobia is when you are afraid of something, which isn't a threat, Islam is a thread, to our western values.
Islam is not a threat to our society, matter of fact, it is a part of our society and islam belongs in western societies
Se ve que estos caballeros teutónicos entrenaron bien
Slow March of death
But that was ELITE vs. non-Elite? What were the upgrades?
The smart Mameluke tried to flee towards the end of the clip.
We need Teutonic Knights back in Europe.
no we do not.
PyroMSX fuck you, you disgusting racist little shit.
PyroMSX yeah. U need to get to know them.
Don't engage with genocidal trolls.
Daniel Montoya i cant let them get away with speaking their vile hatred
Those Teutonic knights were hardcore man
Everybody is a gangsta until teutonic knight finally catches you
I've always imagined the Teutonique Knight as a Darth Vader slow but deadly
Elite teutonic knights=medieval chuck noris
I once stole a relic from a walled camp with 10 Elite knights a priest and one Ram. The area was being guarded by 20+ units and towers
EXCELLENT choice of music, from Medieval 2 Tota War Kingdoms
This is why i love the slow, yet powerful teutonic knight!
Accurate reenacting of the battle of Montgisard, involving the Templars and the Kingdom of Jerusalem against the forces of Saladin, in 1177.
Half of the Mamelukes did not fight at the beginning ;(
Yes but if it was controlled properly 1 mameluke could take out 200 teutonic knights. It would just take a very, very long time.
Post imperial elite teutons vs feudal age non-elite mamelukes.
Still impressive
Saladin, Where are you going with that large arm...
oh fuck...
They mowed down the heathens! Deus Vult!!!
I like how you used the medieval 2 total war Teutonic campaign music
Mamelukes deal melee damage, hard to do against Teutonic knights who have 10-13 melee armor
Oh the Tuetonic Campaign flashbacks this song brings lol
In AoE 1, this is Centurions vs Camels
They stabbed out the eyes of the last one and set him free to let the story live on. Deus vult
I wish I could dominate this hard with my Teutons but Teutonic Knights are slow and onagers make me cry.
In the mamalukes defence you didn't pick up blacksmith upgrades
Mamelukes: Get on the horse and try again!
What's for dinner tonight?? Mamuluke stew, fry and chops
I guess Mamelukes didn't want to attack all at once because they were afraid.
Awesome! Teutonic! Yayeh!
Elite teutonic knight = Medieval Chuck Norris
Para mi, los caballeros de la orden teutonica son la mejor unidad del juego, practicamente no tienen debilidades, mientras que otras unidades que vencen a los mismos caballeros si las tienen, ya que la mayoria son caballería xd
Se vencen con flechas
It's actually funny if you read history of Mongol invasions and read about the Europe campaign: how Mongol horse-mounted archers laid waste to several European armies composed of mainly those heavy, slow knights. And the Mongols did all that with only half of their force, with the other half being in Vietnam after the Sung dynasty.
I think that's because of two things. First, europeans were just not used to dealing with cavalry archers, especially those with tactics such as the mongols. And secondly... the mongols knew to stay away from swords when they were using bows. The AI just isn't great at keeping ranged units alive.
"Composed of mainly those heavy, slow knights" No, not all, during the XIIIth century european armies consisted mainly of light troops on foot wielding bardiches, crossbows and stuff like that. The knights were not that slow but weren't numerous. During the mongol invasions of Hungary a battle between Hungarians and Mongols viewed the victory of the latters but the mounted knights clad in iron, men and horse, were nearly impervious to arrows. In attempt to prevent a nigtmarish second invasion of Hungary the king insisted that his nobility should be more equipped like this and built many stone castles at the same time, and it worked.
The Mongols were superior tactically to most of their foes while being outnumbered most of the time, against people as diverse as Chinese, Persians, Arabs, Slavs, Polish, Germans ... Sometimes numbers aren't a matter; Alexander the Great vanquished the mighty achemenid empire with far fewer men after all.
if I was playing as Mamulukes, those knights were no problem
No animals were harmed during the making of this video.
In AoE1 40 centurion may be killed around 500 horse archers, if here do not use hit and run tactics.
This Teutonic unit was Dismouted Teutonic Heavy Infantry
Ahh, so this means fervorous knights can easily vanquish a horde of infidels despite having 30+ scimitars stuck in their torsos.
Nice nice.
Help! the crusader is attacking our trade route!
i still find mamelukes most troublesome units in the game
The mameluke must walk too. So this battle will fair
40 Tks lose to a single Mameluke. Even 200 TKs do.
probably not. for sure not on this map. youll be able to corner the mameluke eventually
also,you'd be microing for...8000 seconds.if you synch your shots perfectly with their RoF,thats is
also,the beauty of TK's is their ability to protect siege,anything that isnt called catapract will not bite the bullet that is TK's+siege.Theyre only as strong as their backup
Yeah, 500 elefants lose to a cavalry archer, how many hours u have to spend??
No player would fight melee agaisnt tks and no player would leave their tks chasing enemies like that, how u love sayin bs we all know
Teutonic Knights are just living tanks in this game, especialy fully ubgraded ones. My favorite units.
video: the AI sucks at managing things to the point where 40 elite teutonic nights can beat 5 times as many mamelukes
the comments section: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DEUS VULT IS RACIST REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I just wanted the name of the music
Woololo!
Wait,you may need a few archers on the road aheeaaaaaddd
Elite Teutonic Knights are extremely strong, but they can only defend, could not attack.
If you are only defending your VERY long ranged castle from Paladins or Elite Huskarls, then Teutonic Knights would be effective.
when one unupgraded mameluke would actually be enough to micro down the fully upgraded teutonic knights...in about 100 years maybe kekekekek
This Is what I like to see. Lol. What's funny is if you had 250 mamelukes you would only need 10 or 12 more teutonic knights lol
It is just happening in video games in fact sometimes low armor unit can be effective more than huge irony guy
Help! Crusaders are attacking our trade routes!
last one was triggered? :P
Are the mamelukes on defensive or stand ground stance?
this shows that even with micromanagment you will lost too much time to beat just some Teutonic knights with mamelukes
however was they upgraded ?
Help! Crusaders are attacking our trade routes!!
hopefully a true simulation for the future of Europe
Mamelukes are hit-n-run strategy, you can't use them in melee fights like this, anybody can use a single Mameluke to kill those 40 knights using hit-n-run but it will take like 40 hours xD
Do that with 1 scorpion and see those knights fall, unless you have to protect something
You mean 40 elite Teutonic Knights vs one Mameluke
What is the name of the game/software...? O.o
accurate operation barbarossa
circa 1941
colourized
he will tell the tale
How about fully upgraded elite Conquistador vs fully upgraded elite mameluk
That's a lot of dead camels.
Now next video how about you take 40 mamelukes and absolutely slaughter 200 elite teutonic knights because whichever army you micro is going to win in this type of "experiment"
In reality if you try to have Mamelukes fight Teutonic Knights, that is a really bad fight to take. ETK can 1 v 1 a fully upgraded paladin, but they're really slow. Sure the Mamelukes could have kited them away, but still that is a really bad fight to take. Really the only infantry units that match up well are the Jaguar Warrior and the Samurai. However, Mameluke bonus vs cavalry and their speed make them much more useful overall.
Un des meilleurs jeu de PS2
This scenario is not possible. 0 upgrade vs full upgrade and not commanding needed.
Poor mamelukes with their melee damage going up against the knights.
Well... Elite vs non elite. Mamelukes won't attack before they are being attacked, could do a lot of dmg before they (Teutonic knights) are even close :D
please do 200 drones vs 5 wisp !!
Y yo pensaba que los tritones eran los más débiles y que todas las civs eran counter xd
Micro? THE FUCK IS THAT?!
Throwing scimitars at knights in heavy armor not such a good idea. Maybe they should try actually slashing/stabbing them with em instead!
40 Elite Huskarls VS 200 Elite Skirmishers
A stand in ground would be more realistic.
Why was that so satisfying to watch?
Not true
dude half of the mamelukes did not fight