These caps are amazing, I showed them powering the monster JBL A6000gti in one of my previous videos. I only wish I had the 3V 3000F ones, not the 2.5V 2600F ones as I need 6 to get 15 volts and the capacity drops with another cap in series. Still, supercaps incredible, especially for music playback in a car as they can recharge very quickly.
I have a question and I thought I'd go to the goat for answers. If I'm running 3 AGM Kinetik batteries in the rear, a Duracell Platinum AGM in the front with a Singer 320 amp alternator, would this be a good combo? Also, I have a buddy with a stock alt and a 3k amp. He has only an AGM up front. What would be the best for his setup?
I added 2 banks of 6, 2.7v 3000f maxwell boostcaps to my electrical and it was the best upgrade per $ that I done to my electrical system! It helped me tremendously, I could not believe the improvement that I seen!
Ps, I run a 250 amp alternator with 4 crescendo 110 ah batteries in the back an xs under the hood and its all on 2 4k's strapped on 2 zv5 18's. And the boostcaps help me sooooo much!
Not bad I'm honestly more interested in the XS power Lithium battery myself. Does and how well will one of the mid level battery holds up with an AGM mix
How does a single bank compare to the group 31 sized cap bank you guys sell? I have a 250 amp alternator and a kinetic hc3800 as a battery after my starting batt. Im Looking to run 5k rms and possibly adding one of your cap banks or cap battery. So what I'd like to know is with a charging source like mine and a little agm help how would voltage hold up with the caps added?
Depends on the situation. If your subs show low impedance at 20 hz and you play a full volume test tone with 5kw rms running into the sub at 20hz then your amp is gonna draw really high and really low current 40 times a second. More current than even 2 hc3800s would be able to support. And this alternating draw will mean that any slow reactions from your voltage regulator leave your voltage dropping alot. A super cap bank will help you get the fullest out of that alternator in situations like this because the voltage regulator and batteries will never have to react to sharp changes in draw. Because of this I would say you will get more bang for your buck from the cap bank first and another battery second. But yeah if you want rock solid voltage in all situations with that alternator and running that much power then ideally you have both the batteries to support it and a cap bank.
@@maxfmfdm Thanks for the info. I have been doing the debate between lithium and caps for a few months now and just didn't know enough about either to be honest. I'm going to try and conjure up some room to run both an agm and a cap bank. My voltage with 2.5 to 3k clamped is right in the low 13s so I'm hoping with the addition of a cap bank I can hold that same voltage with a little more juice.
Great video. I've always wondered what these super caps are capable of and just one bank of 5 can handle 3k watts. Awesome. Now to hook these up to a bank of LTO (lithium titanate cells) would be a great combo. It seem the yinglang 40ah lto cells are the most popular for the diy builds Right now. Be curious to see a video of a bank of 6 in series of these on the amp dyno.
I wonder what the voltage drop is on these if you charge it with a fairly stock alt, say 100 amps, and have it wired to 1 or 2 ~100ish ah agm batts. That'd be interesting. A lot of power though, damn.
You probably have upgraded to lithium by now :-), but I have 2 banks with stock alt and 2 AGM on a 8K If you watch the voltage in the morning, those caps will soak up so much power every morning (about 12 minutes) then you are pretty good on voltage if you give the AGMs a break once in a while
10,000 RMS watts!? >> This tells me that 1 bank of XS-Pwr caps (6 x 2.7v 3KF or 500f overall) in conjunction with a powerful battery (preferably XS-P Lithium) and H.O. alternator (390amp) will provide 10K+ RMS watts. Also that is what SPL Showtime aka Sparked Innovations YT vid suggests if I remember correctly. Here's the vid: ruclips.net/video/JTNivApnZyE/видео.html What experience do you guys have with combing a bank with 1 or more batteries?
nice test, but where is the control (the big battery bank) Even better test with one battery. Then add the caps. Most of us have a choice of adding a 2nd battery or a cap bank. They cost about the same. But they don't weight the same
Bill L they said them in the video and stated the second one was rated higher lol, higher farads higher the capacitance, aka holds more energy. Tests like this I would think they would use same rating caps so we can see which brand is best. The price and durability would also have been good to know. Also something about the second one being laser wielded or some shit, a test to see if this is better then regular bolt in buss bars from xs power would be a good to see.
The power for the amp dyno is plugged into the test bench battery bank since we normally use that as a power source for testing amplifiers. Since this test uses a different power source I made sure that there was a volt meter plugged directly into the superbank/amp inputs. That's clearly shown in the video.
you can't as the dyno uses the voltage shown on the dyno as part of the circuit analysis to calculate output power. The dyno has a volt meter and a current meter internally that it uses to calculate the wattage shown. So there is that.............
These caps are amazing, I showed them powering the monster JBL A6000gti in one of my previous videos. I only wish I had the 3V 3000F ones, not the 2.5V 2600F ones as I need 6 to get 15 volts and the capacity drops with another cap in series. Still, supercaps incredible, especially for music playback in a car as they can recharge very quickly.
I have a question and I thought I'd go to the goat for answers. If I'm running 3 AGM Kinetik batteries in the rear, a Duracell Platinum AGM in the front with a Singer 320 amp alternator, would this be a good combo?
Also, I have a buddy with a stock alt and a 3k amp. He has only an AGM up front. What would be the best for his setup?
@@thatunknownguy2680 here u go man, this video goes into detail which I think will b most helpful to u, ruclips.net/video/JTNivApnZyE/видео.html
Big D, Capacitance drops, but the power goes up.
I added 2 banks of 6, 2.7v 3000f maxwell boostcaps to my electrical and it was the best upgrade per $ that I done to my electrical system! It helped me tremendously, I could not believe the improvement that I seen!
Ps, I run a 250 amp alternator with 4 crescendo 110 ah batteries in the back an xs under the hood and its all on 2 4k's strapped on 2 zv5 18's. And the boostcaps help me sooooo much!
I'd like to see this revisited with a single AGM behind the super cap bank. Then I'd like to see it compared with a single bank of lithium behind it.
Not bad I'm honestly more interested in the XS power Lithium battery myself. Does and how well will one of the mid level battery holds up with an AGM mix
How does a single bank compare to the group 31 sized cap bank you guys sell? I have a 250 amp alternator and a kinetic hc3800 as a battery after my starting batt. Im Looking to run 5k rms and possibly adding one of your cap banks or cap battery. So what I'd like to know is with a charging source like mine and a little agm help how would voltage hold up with the caps added?
Depends on the situation. If your subs show low impedance at 20 hz and you play a full volume test tone with 5kw rms running into the sub at 20hz then your amp is gonna draw really high and really low current 40 times a second. More current than even 2 hc3800s would be able to support. And this alternating draw will mean that any slow reactions from your voltage regulator leave your voltage dropping alot. A super cap bank will help you get the fullest out of that alternator in situations like this because the voltage regulator and batteries will never have to react to sharp changes in draw. Because of this I would say you will get more bang for your buck from the cap bank first and another battery second. But yeah if you want rock solid voltage in all situations with that alternator and running that much power then ideally you have both the batteries to support it and a cap bank.
@@maxfmfdm Thanks for the info. I have been doing the debate between lithium and caps for a few months now and just didn't know enough about either to be honest. I'm going to try and conjure up some room to run both an agm and a cap bank. My voltage with 2.5 to 3k clamped is right in the low 13s so I'm hoping with the addition of a cap bank I can hold that same voltage with a little more juice.
What would I need for my Scv6000 it keeps clipping and I have to Optima batteries for that amp or why is it keep clipping
Where can we get the 2nd set of capacitors ??
Great video. I've always wondered what these super caps are capable of and just one bank of 5 can handle 3k watts. Awesome.
Now to hook these up to a bank of LTO (lithium titanate cells) would be a great combo. It seem the yinglang 40ah lto cells are the most popular for the diy builds Right now. Be curious to see a video of a bank of 6 in series of these on the amp dyno.
Awesome test demo!
Can you wire more caps in series for higher volts?
Yes you can, however due to how capacitors charge you lose capacity when you do so.
@@DaTwinkie405 nonsense. Total energy goes up when you add more in series. You do lose Capacitance, though.
@@bbcellular I like the way you simply say "nonsense"
@@rodneyrael3024 I said a lot more than that!
Great test. I know the gentlemen was from Fullthrottle, but how can a consumer get the cap banks in the second test?
They are made by Skeleton Technologies. I'd sell the bank for what I have in it.
@@winnah9000 is it still available for sale?
I wonder what the voltage drop is on these if you charge it with a fairly stock alt, say 100 amps, and have it wired to 1 or 2 ~100ish ah agm batts. That'd be interesting. A lot of power though, damn.
You probably have upgraded to lithium by now :-), but I have 2 banks with stock alt and 2 AGM on a 8K
If you watch the voltage in the morning, those caps will soak up so much power every morning (about 12 minutes) then you are pretty good on voltage if you give the AGMs a break once in a while
So these caps can be ran with my 2 batteries unlike the lithium battery that can't be ran with a battery?
I cant believe the low views and thumps up for this video. Great content, keep it up.
DAMN!!! I think I'm going to wait on more batteries and try adding some caps👍👍
10,000 RMS watts!? >> This tells me that 1 bank of XS-Pwr caps (6 x 2.7v 3KF or 500f overall) in conjunction with a powerful battery (preferably XS-P Lithium) and H.O. alternator (390amp) will provide 10K+ RMS watts. Also that is what SPL Showtime aka Sparked Innovations YT vid suggests if I remember correctly. Here's the vid: ruclips.net/video/JTNivApnZyE/видео.html What experience do you guys have with combing a bank with 1 or more batteries?
nice test, but where is the control (the big battery bank) Even better test with one battery. Then add the caps. Most of us have a choice of adding a 2nd battery or a cap bank. They cost about the same. But they don't weight the same
Dont need a control,this isn't a comparison test. It's a heres what they do take it or leave it test.
Hmmm
Examining the stress point of the caps** verrrrry nice
i am a big fan of the super caps, i like to mix it whith batterys
Where do you buy your caps from? No Brasil? No Paraguay?? Valeu.
Shouldn't it have been a bank of six xs power caps?
Nope there's 2 models a 2.7 volt which needs 6 cells for a bank and there's a 2.85 volt which needs 5 cells for a bank
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Looks like the second cap bank holds more juice
No shit, its rated for more.
@@4gbmeans4gb61 you say no shit like we knew the ratings for both stfu
Bill L they said them in the video and stated the second one was rated higher lol, higher farads higher the capacitance, aka holds more energy. Tests like this I would think they would use same rating caps so we can see which brand is best. The price and durability would also have been good to know.
Also something about the second one being laser wielded or some shit, a test to see if this is better then regular bolt in buss bars from xs power would be a good to see.
That's what a capacitor does. DUH.
5 caps at 15 volts.. wtf?!?!
And how can your "meter" be hooked to to another voltage source to measure the power of another?
The power for the amp dyno is plugged into the test bench battery bank since we normally use that as a power source for testing amplifiers. Since this test uses a different power source I made sure that there was a volt meter plugged directly into the superbank/amp inputs. That's clearly shown in the video.
you can't as the dyno uses the voltage shown on the dyno as part of the circuit analysis to calculate output power. The dyno has a volt meter and a current meter internally that it uses to calculate the wattage shown. So there is that.............
@@UnofficialAudio Yeah but you did not have an ammeter also.