Thanks Rose Anvil, I still think that a tac boot needs a true heel like the OG jungle boot. Like the logging White's heel help you go down hill, you would be falling all over the place if you needed to go down hill.
I could be wrong here but the diagram at 0:58 is incorrect. It looks like theyre reversed. the blake stitch is on the left and the goodyear on the right
Being in the army, I would love to see the standard army boots compared to standard issue ones. The AR 670-1 boots I see and hear about most offen are Belleville,Oakley, rocky, Nike, and a random walmart brand I can't remember. It would be interesting to see the differences more than the rumors about each one.
I took apart a pair of standard issue boots before, and there really isn't much to them. Fiberglass shank, cardboard heel and toe counter, canvas toe and heel cover and a fiberboard insole. The dual density foam layers past the footbed are neat, but its the vibram sieria sole that is the only really expensive part of the boot.
I think what gets discounted in this barefoot series is that once you are properly conditioned to barefoot boots, then the flexibility of a proper minimal boot is far more important to comfort than any padding could be. Basically if the boot completely moves with your foot, then it can’t rub and cause hot spots and nor should the counter cover wear out because there’s not the same friction on it. Then you also realise how much more stable you feel the closer to the ground you are, so all the stuff about foam adding stability is out the window once you have muscles in your feet and your feet have maximum contact with the terrain. But listen to the advice in these videos: you need to transition to barefoot shoes for any of this to hold true or you could get hurt.
It's true that ground feel enhances stability. It's also true that 'in the wild' rocks and roots will beat the hell out of the bottom of your foot if the sole is too flexible. Especially if you're carrying a pack. I say this having worn various barefoot shoes for >15 years and then making the mistake of trying to go barefoot on a two-week section hike of the Appalachian Trail, and coming home with foot injuries that took weeks to recover from. There's a middle ground. Also, I spent nearly thirty years in the Special Forces, a lot of that as a medic. I have tried a lot of standard-issue and nonstandard-issue footwear. And treated a lot of blisters, plantar fasciitis, ankle sprains and fractures. Love that ground feel but too much can be dangerous in the wrong environment. Oh, and one more thing. If you happen to do a lot of ladder climbing, for example, the wire rope assault ladder into a helicopter, you'll definitely want a heel on your boot.
I've hiked with a pack on up those knarly mountain trails in my Belleville barefoot boots, and they performed awesome. I have 1/4 inch wool felt in the bottom, and that was enough padding to prevent rocks from hurting, while still letting me move ninja over the terrain.
@@brimstone33 might be an age thing too, no offense. i mean, based on your experience, you're really old. your body is nowhere near as robust as it was years ago. nothing to be ashamed of. as one ages, people can get stronger, but they get more prone to injury and take longer to recover after exertion.
I love that you still call out companies on their bullshit. Marketing bullshit, cutting corners, cheap materials, ect. Companies need to stop lying to people about the quality of their products, especially the workforce. We need more people doing this with products.
I have been in the military since 1989. The worst boot was the old black leather. I loved the jungle boot. My favorite boot is this Rocky. Even though I have the steal toe version, they are very comfortable. It takes a day to break them in. I work in liquid fuels and water. I have put them through hell while deployed to the Middle East and I still wear them.
I was a paratrooper and a medic and my Rocky's being so thick saved my ankles more times than I can count. In fact, I can only remember having to treat two injuries with S2Vs compared to dozens of Nikes, Belleveilles, and Danners. Yeah, they were heavy as all hell during a long movement, but after a while you get used to them. In 8 years, I went through 3 pairs and the only pair that ever fell apart were my 3rd pair on my last week in the Army which I honestly thought was pretty fitting.
Stoked to see tactical boots being covered. I've owned both the Rocky and the Belleville boots. I was issued Rocky for my deployment and purchased the Belleville on my own. Despite the additional comforts of the Rockies, I loved the Belleville boots waaaaaaaay more (I still own and wear them). Even having been conditioned to minimalist footwear, the Bellevilles needed just a little bit of squish, so I bought the $3 foam insoles from the BX. Worked beautifully. I tried the Danners as well. Also great feeling boots. If you continue doing tactical boots, I would recommend doing the Corcoran Marauders. So many airmen wore them and they had such a killer reputation, but they royally destroyed my heels. They never broke in. I hated them and I need my bias confirmed lol.
I love my marauders, the only complaint I have is that the get so wet so easily. I've had the Rockies, and every pair I was ever issued squeaked. I have a pair of backup Bellevilles that sit at the very back of my closet and I hope I never have to lace up.
The Belleville mini mils are by far the most comfortable boots I've ever worn - my feet are very well adapted to barefoot though. If you sno-seal the roughout, the leather will last forever. It also takes leather die very well.
As has been mentioned, thicker isn't always better. I hike many hundreds of miles a year in rocky terrain. I used to be a boot hiker. My feet were weak. I transitioned to thin, zero lift trail running shoes. Now I love the feel of the ground and rocks under my feet. My stability and agility have improved. I haven't turned an ankle since I went low and thin. I now hate cushioning. I have climbed mountains in the Rockies, I have hiked the Grand Canyon rim to rim, 25 miles in one day. I never get blisters or have any foot trouble. Cushioning is way over rated. The only time I wear boots is during winter snow hiking in sub freezing and sub-zero weather.
I did all of my military conditioning hikes in Bates Lites or the Danner Reckonings, and the one time I ever injured my ankles was not even during training, and it was wearing the heavier McRaes. Lightweight is best weight.
As someone that wears tactical boots for a living, I really enjoy and appreciate this series. If you could include Salomon’s in one of the comparisons that would be great.
wore rocky s2v my whole infantryman career, including Afghanistan tour. absolutely fantastic boots. got out and still use an old pair on weekends in the woods, almost 10 years later. great great boot.
Have worn the Rocky’s s2v steel toe for the last 5 or so years on duty. Easily the most comfortable military boot I’ve ever worn. Usually get about 1-2 years out of them so I can justify the cost. Aircraft maintenance is hard on footwear.
I worked Air Transportation in the military. After almost wearing a hole in the steel-toe boots that were issued to me, I switched to Rockys and to this day I miss those boots. They're my Roman empire. They went through hell. They held up so well that my dad stole them from me when I separated and I never saw him or my boots again.
I wear the Rocky SV2 Predator and love them. They are super comfortable. I have had them for 8 months so far and have had no issues. My coworker just bought a pair too and he loves them.
Would be cool to see Salomon XA Forces GTX and Quest 4D GTX Forces boots being in the next one, along with Altama Maritime Assault shoes, and the Altama PRO-X Jungle boots as well.
salomons are ok, but wear much much faster than any boots i've worn. and the xa forces suck bc of the tongue. absolutely avoid at all costs. they constantly work their way to the outside of your pants and everything will fall into your boots.
Only issues I've had with the Altamas are the insoles (they're rubber which dries easily but is hard underfoot and eats through socks) and the ankle support. Changing out the insole is a good move with these but there's really no solution to the ankle support. The whole boot is a mesh material which is good for letting water out but not great for keeping you from rolling ankles on hikes. Other than that, they're built pretty solid. Had a pair for a few years and other than some fraying on the finger loop on the heel, they've held up.
@@Khan.WrathOf That’s actually a great result you’ve got out of your pair, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts about the Altama Maritime Assault shoes. Although I’d like to swap the insoles out for something else like the Ortholite insoles, I think I wouldn’t have to worry much about the ankle support as I’d treat them more of a lightweight pair of shoes since I wouldn’t be doing anything crazy with it, besides being a casual pair and for skateboarding/long boarding, and of course for Airsoft as well. And I think I wouldn’t worry much with them if they do get wet in the rain, since it’s what they’re mostly designed for, just to not hold onto water as much. Once again, thank you for your thoughts and tips, it’s very helpful! :)
Great video! I switched to minimalist shoes about a year ago and just got the Belleville’s at the start of the year. I wear them every day since I’m in the Army and gotta say they are great boots. If you’re looking for a true minimalist boot you can wear in uniform, they do really well.
I was cheesed to see you do the Rocky’s. With experience I can attest they are top for durability. I Got a pair 15 years ago, because let’s face it the standard issue I had until then terribly uncomfortable and I herd a lot of good things about the Rocky’s. For the next 9 years they served me well until my ETS and they still work wonderfully as my go to for yard work , hiking and whatever else outdoors I may do. Replaced the insoles once in this span of time. The insoles have so much squish and are so comfortable that have purchased additional insoles to swap in for my work boots (red wing king toe) and couldn’t be happier.
My first pair of Belleville Mini-Mil boots, the counter failed. Not the cover, but the actual counter. It crumbled into tiny pieces and caused hot spots and blisters, ended up tossing them. I'm on my second and third pairs now, so far no issues.
@@Megatonaxe Yes, and I don't recommend it. Hiking casually under no load is fine. But if you're currently serving with the intention to use them for rucks or school (air assault school, etc.) don't. Use a boot with some actual support. Garmont NFS is a really popular option.
Had a pair of Danner Tachyons for probably about 8 years that I beat the shit out of and I absolutely loved them. Small chunks of the midsole were missing and there was little a hole or two in the leather when I finally retired them because the soles were basically smooth. Replaced them with Nike SFBs which are fine but just not the same.
Best boots I ever had for light-infantry work were the Altama EXO-Speed 1. Those boots did parachuting, long patrols in the bush with 40kg-60kg and lasted years. Never got blisters or even a hotspot. The lateral ankle support was fantastic. As someone with flat feet, it's hard to find boots that won't cause pain and fatigue while doing that kind of work. The EXO-Speed 2 were nowhere near as long lasting. The Rocky SV2s had a decent sole, but no lateral support for the ankles. I'd love to see the EXO Speed 1s come back with Altama's OTB tread, so much grip!
I am not sure you can really rate a shoe for its minimalism until you have worn them long enough to be able to walk or run in them properly. I can tell you right now that the Bellevilles are the best minimal shoe in this line up and would be the easiest for a minimalist runner to run in.
Agreed - the minimils are the only boot in this lineup that could really be considered minimalist. That said they could definitely be improved, most notably by getting rid of the weird plastic heel counters that crumble as the boots break in. It's interesting/disappointing that he didn't get into that, but I actually removed the heel counters from my pair and it's a huge upgrade.
I agree. His argument is better leather better durable but wait till it rain outdoors and marching in wet leather boots. It's the worst. Without GTX, it's nightmare and it won't last long because of constant wetness
I'm really glad you're doing this one! Tactical boots are about all I wear. The Rocky S2V is my all time favorite. I would definitely pick the Rocky over 5.11 any day. The SV2 are really good. I've come to like Danner in last year or so but not this model boot. There's many more I'd like to try but being expensive, I tend to go with what I know is good. I appreciate you doing these videos because it helps a lot! I like knowing what's in them. 🤙🏼
For decades I've worn Belleville C320s, considering them the best combat boot since my issued Jungle Boots. But I was riding my bicycle and was hit by a SUV. Back broken at the L-1, my left femur shattered into eight pieces with a three inch gap where bone used to be, my left arm broken in three places, my left shoulder dislocated, a concussion, and plenty of road rash. The impact should have killed me. I was told that as a 60 year-old man I would never recover enough to walk without a walker or cane. But, after six months in a hospital bed, three reconstructive surgeries, over two years of supervised physical therapy, I was able to jog four miles cross-country in under an hour without any devices. And I did it in less than three years after the collision. During my recovery, my broken back made zero-drop footwear desirable. I bought the pair of Bellevilles in this video. There is a plastic-like reinforced cup around the heel keeping the boot from sagging as it breaks in. But it also cuts your Achilles Tendon on the forward swing of your foot. It's like wearing a bear trap around your ankle at every step. I had to go back to the Belleville C320, which is what I wear when I jog cross country.
I've either purchased or been issued all of these boots and the Rocky S2V is the best of the bunch. I've probably purchased 10 pairs over the years and worn them in garrison and deployed. They hold up well and dry fast. The rounded heel keeps you from rolling ankles as they don't snap over a sharp edge but roll more gently.
I am army infantry and hands down garmont t8 bifidas are the best ar670 boot for all around use, comfort and durability. The rockys are best for rucking and field exercises in rough terrain. For paved road ruck marches or long distance running i recommend the original belleville amrap. Oakley light assaults and the danners are the closest thing to civilian tennis shoe comfort you can get in uniform and are best for the office and motorpool.
the 511s lasted two years. the rocky’s lasted eight years. mine are older and were made in the us. also the rockys are the only boots that my feet don’t sweat in in hot weather because they have so much airflow. not so great in cold weather also due to the airflow. one nice feature is when they are soaked they dry in about three hours. the nice thing about that is you step in water for a few minutes and walk them dry and they come out like they were custom made for your foot.
5.11 / for the Traction. Top features that are real and work and the deciding factor for me is always traction. Where I am likely to be steep hills in the woods with loose surfaces traction with cliffs and large rocks the best traction gets things done and prevents injuries. Like a good knife the final factor is grip especially when wet.
Replaced my Rocky’s with a pair of Nicks Tactical Boots. Best decision I’ve made for boots. The Rocky’s were comfortable but never lasted more than a year.
This tactical boot series is excellent. I'm in the military and most guys will have multiple pairs of boots - your "garrison" boot for those 9-5 going to work on base days (where you see a lot of these minimalist cheaper boots) and than an exercise/operation boot. I rock the Danner Tachyons for Garrison and I'm eyeballing the Rocky's for a new exercise boot now that my standard issue Mark IV goretext boots have worn through. The goretex Tachyons are great because I don't have to put any extra mileage on my exercise boots during the winter and they feel like a slipper. The Rocky's and Lowas are by far the most popular for exercises - I even know of some guys who keep the insole from the Rocky's and put it in their Lowas. I personally think the Lowas are ugly as sin and look like a coyote tan power ranger would wear. But, to each their own. Dudes really swear by them. I think a couple brands to include for a follow up would be Altberg, Ultimas, and SWATs.
Belleville C320 is the best AR670-1 boot hands down. 1 pair lasted me all of Ranger School with 2 mountains. At the end the only thing that busted through was as the balls of your feet. Not the lightest but light enough you can sprint or ruck-run easily. Enough to support your ankles (I have good ankles though). They dry within an hour of walking if rain made them wet and within 4 hours if you stepped in a stream. The only thing I changed was adding in a hiking insole.
I was issued the Rocky’s when I deployed to Afghanistan, they were comfy but fell apart after 3 months, I had to use my good ole Belleville’s for the rest of it.
S2v is a truck. Right out of the box went on an 8 mi ruck, other boots were soaked. Figured i would have less damage from the new dry boots. Got back no issues, feet intact. Those boots feel like a warm blanket
Quality control on the Bellevilles is hit and miss. I have two pairs - the black leather version and and the sage green air force version. The black ones bow out so much at the sides due to the construction method that I feel ridiculous wearing them. The green version has a weird seam or collection of materials in the toe that causes a hotspot. Love these minimalist videos.
The last comment about making these videos so we don’t have to just guess really sums up my years and years of watching this channel. Absolutely FIRE, and relaxing, content my dude!
I wore the steel toe Rocky S2V for my last two years in the Air Force, working on the flight line. I loved them so much I wore them every day for the next three years as a civilian. They held up great and I only stopped wearing them when I replaced then with the Rocky S2V Jungle as water resistance was more important to me.
I rotated three different versions of Rocky over the course of almost 10 years in the Navy (the version you tested here, the steel toe version, and a Gortex winter version) and yeah, they're durable as hell and I thought they were all really comfy. Luckily, they issued me a lot of spares lol, so I still have a few NIB!
Non military here. But active in the outdoors and healthcare. Even within 1 brand there can be so much variety of quality-comfort-long lasting wear. I have 5.11 ATAC 2.0 S.Z. with (foot) mobility issues, light, comfy, but the inner liner wears out faster than the rest of the boot wich looks well. Just sharing thoughts. Thanks
I've worn 5.11s for ten years if various types everyday before graduating to Redwings and now Nick's. I will say for cheap boots, 5.11s usually lasted me 2 years of beating the absolute hell out of them on trails and light trades' work. As someone who is very flat-footed, they tended to help with that which is why I stuck with them. The only problem I had was when they failed, there was no saving them. I'm talking like as soon as the cemet holding the sole cracks off just a little or a tear developed, the boots had maybe a month left before they were completely toast.
Ive been rocking the rockies for years and they are the best. I took the plunge and it literally cannot go back to other boots, the rockies are head and shoulders above the rest
For the past 3 years, I've worn the Rocky's. I initially chose them due to the sole being stitched and not glued. I've had problems with all the glued boots breaking. The only worn part on the rocky I've experienced is the leather cracking right past the toes on the side. Other than that, I love them
When I started with the army reserve everyone was wearing rocky s2v boots, so as soon as I could dump the issued boots that's what I got myself and they were really amazing and served me well. Now almost everyone is wearing Lowas, and for good reason I think, the quality and comfort is just better. I Have a pair of Aku Pilgrims and A pair of Altbergs now as military boots and a pair of civilian lowa renegades and all of them are great. I think you should try cutting apart some altbergs, they seem to be made in a pretty old school way with a lot of care and consideration, and are very high quality.
I bought some "boot campaign boots" not sure what brand they were but they were done of the coolest lightest boots I've owned. Only got a year or of them on the farm though. Between the chemicals and things i do it takes a good boot to hold up. Thorogood flyway boots lasted 2 years. I'm 6 months in on my Nick's so far so good they are just heavy
@@georgiaboy2023 walnut builder pro. It's by far the most comfortable shoe I've worn. The break-in wasn't bad I put them on the day they came in the mail. I just wore them about the 3 day my feet hurt but i was standing and moving all day. After that it was fine
I wore the Belleville Mini-Mils for Anti-Poaching patrols in SA. 50km a day/night in the bush. Incredibly comfortable boot. Least protective of acute hazards, but your main hazards in that environment are chronic - and then they are the best boot IMHO. I wish they had a toe guard and a zip up the side. Otherwise, perfect.
I had the Rocky s2v's during my time. I walked, ran, and rucked so much in those that I wore a spot on the heels completely through so that the polyurethane foam midsole was showing on each boot. They never once gave me a blister and I never wore through the counter on the inside despite that being a weak spot on your video. Literally felt like I had pillows strapped to my feet the entire time. 10/10 best boot ever.
All boots talk aside, Thank you for your service everyone. I was also in the army and I remember my boots were too uncomfortable and I got Nike Combat boots in the end that was approved.
I just got done spending a month in the field with the Bellvilles, going assaulting 2 objectives a day on top of hills every day. The Bellville held up well, nothing got in, but you need to be used to wearing bearfoot shoes/boot I recommend getting fpinsoles like the kings that are 0 drop and wide toe box for rucking mainly on gravle, hardball and uneven terrain the sole that it came with was fine. That's if you need a AR670-1 boot if not the vivo trekkers are a much better boot. *Side note pair them with a pair of xero genesis bf sandals 1 that make a great shower shoe, 2 that weigh nothing and take up no space in a assault bag or ruck, which leads me to 3 they are great to wear at the ORP when your letting your boots and feet air out and dry.
I have 6 different pairs of the S2V's for scouting and hunting here in NW Wyoming. I have put thousands of miles on them in some of the roughest and most diverse terrain, not to mention weather, in the country. I've carried up to a 150# pack in them for miles! I have extremely wide feet. They have been hands down the most durable and comfortable boots I have ever worn.
Infantryman who uses the mini mils, my favorite boot. Great for timed rucks when you have the 12 mile in 3 hours. For heavy rucks, 50lbs+, I recommend something with a thicker sole like a Belleville c320. Mini mils are a all around decent boot, have yet to lose an eyelet and have worn them over a 100 miles of rucking. Something I’d like to point out about comfort, things like good heel counter , good insoles and light weight are the key too a good boot. Fiberglass shanks, heavy boots, bad heel counters will ruin boots as from heavy use shanks break, these boots aren’t meant for walking on a job site but rather running through any environment, usually the outdoors, but occasionally concrete with broken glass. In these boots you will have to swim ruck and also feel the environment you walk on. Especially at night knowing what you’re walking on can be extremely important. Mini mils in my opinion the best. But then I wear minimalist shoes regularly and have built up my calf muscles, so these benefits may not be true everyone. I definitely recommend switching out your insoles for some good ones that have excellent cushioning.
The earlier gen Belleville's were solid boots, and the 105's have a couple of upgrades. That said- they're NOT tactical boots, only styled that way for uniform compliance. They're more for training those calf and foot muscles while doing daily BS. They are pretty nice for a second light weight pair of boots rather than crocs or sandals.
i can confirm i have a pair of rocky standard issue hot weather boots that i was issued 2018 that i still wear to work everyday, they have infact lasted longer than most marriages
I’ve tried the Rockys twice. They DESTROY my heels. Like a cheese grater back there. I’ve tried many things including taping my heels. Too bad because I like them otherwise. But you can only come back from a hike with bloody heels so many times. I have insulated ones for winter and those work perfectly.
I actually ordered myself some Rocky Boots, pretty informative to watch this and quite happy that the sole is actually sewn on, I dont trust glued on soles too much wich is why I prefer my veeeeery old germany army boots since they are very durable (my dad used his 50 years for motorbike rides and only had to replace the glued heel once)
When I’m on my feet 12 to 14 hours a day, the most important thing is comfort. I would say a close second would be puncture protection on the bottom. The bottom of the boot generally does not last more than a year, after that, the tread nearly gone. I’ll normally purchase a new pair of boots every year. I would suggest for your next video you take a poll with your police officer followers to see what boots they wear. Some of the ones I have gone through are Bates, Oakley, Under Armor and New Balance.
I have worn the Rocky boots in the military for well over a decade now. I have owned 4 pairs in that time. No other boots. They are awesome!!! You chose well!
Bellevilles are the best work boots i have ever purchased. As a plumbing and heating mechanic, they have stood up better than any other brand ive purchased. Theyve outlasted keens, red wings, etc. I will never purchase another brand/style ever again.
Awesome video always love to see the specially being Air Force myself. If you have the time I would love to see go over Altima maritime assault boot, Solomon Quest 4D, Lowa Innox pro, Danner 20512 fullbore, Oakley light assault boot. hopefully the series isn’t becoming redundant for you. I really appreciate your attention to detail and breaking down the facts for us viewers. Thank you for your time.
Buddy let me tell you something I am so thankful you did this one. I’m a veteran, I believe I commented on your last couple videos about doing something like this one. Either way, thank you for letting me finally see this! But yes as some of the others have said we would love to see one based on the basic training boots! I thought rocky and garmont brand army boots was the best!
I have this 5.11 and I love them for long days of fishing, both walking through the forest to get to the lake and standing around just casting all day, they are also great when wet the don’t slip, but they are not waterproof so your feet will get wet they also don’t dry out fast which I don’t mind. I really love them.
18 months in Afghanistan wearing only ONE pair of boots. That boot is the Rocky. Couldn’t have used a boot harder. Zero tread left on them but they held up better then any boot I’ve owned by far.
I’ve been wearing S2Vs since 2007, ever since getting back from my first Iraq deployment. One pair usually lasts me about a year of daily wear, and it’s usually the outsole tread that wears out first.
So fun bit of trivia, L.L. Bean boots used to sell leather and shearling insoles with shanks in them, and the bottoms were molded shankless. Now they're molded with shanks inside, and the shearling and foam insoles are floppy.
I’m in the marine Corps. I would love to see standard issued boots get cut in half. USMC combat boots, Jungle boots, RAT boots. And for the most popular boot… the Danner Reckonings 😎I love your videos!
I have the bates shock. I had another pair of bates and reebok and sketchers and they all fell apart. The shocks have lasted me the longest. I'm on my feet 10-12 hours a day, these style shoes are light enough but meet my work standards.
Vet here. WIDTH in the toes is what matters for comfort. With that said, I'd take the Danner Tachyons or the (new) Reebok Nano Tactical boots (499 brown, not the black sneakers shown here).
After watching a project farm video i switched my work boots from some hermans to the Reebok rapid response 8in boot with comp toe. I treated tgem with huburts shoe greese and my god im not looking back. Theyre so comfy, light and DURABLE. Yes i said it, i work construction and we got a job renovating a bunch of 4 storie appartment buildings so my feet and my knees were getting murdered walking stairs with loaded tool bags and riding in a 80ft man lift. They have preformed so good i plan on staying with these for all boot needs. No punctures, great water resitance and no signs of wear on the outsole yet. Im heavy so ive worm boots flat fast before. I would love to see them torn down here.
Boots I've worn in the service: Concoran Marauders Altama , Jungle Assault boots (my favorite safety toe boot for warm weather) Rock Sv3s (fav safetey toe cold weather boots) Aku Pilgrims (all season best non safety toe boot, beat the piss out of them ruck marching and hiking off duty). Altama Maritime Assault boots (Vans on steroids basically)
In the Army, I used the Belleville One Xero Ultra Light Assault Boots. They were the cheapest compliant boots in the shop (besides the basic training boot) and are basically the same as the Mini Mil but with a more standard outsole. I broke them in on a 12 kilometer ruck march and got no blisters. I still have them. They've taken me through the heat, the cold, the humid, the dry, and even urine (don't ask). I swear by Belleville. So do Navy aviators and flight deck crews, though they'd use different, waterproof and melt-resistant models. Point is, if you want some modern production American military boots, get Bellevilles. They still make the Ultra Light Assault Boots I used a decade ago, just in a slightly darker color these days.
Too, for hard military use, almost any upper will be durable enough because the sole, which generally can't be replaced on the ones you get on base shops, will wear down before your roughout uppers even get stained. It's perfectly normal in all branches to go through a pair of boots every 1-2 years because the sole wears down from hard conditions. So if I am shopping for Army boots, I care that they dry out quickly, are breathable, and are comfortable. I'll be wearing them all day, but not all decade.
I used the 5.11 as my work boots in mountainous terrains and they lasted a week and a half. They were extremely comfortable, the upper was amazing and offer a lot of protection. I didn’t have issues with rocks falling on my feet or twisting ankles when stepping on rocks and uneven terrain while running. The flaw, and maybe I just got a defective pair, is by far the treading. The treads were absolutely destroyed after a week. Also I bought the display shoe and I didn’t realize it was missing the insole on one boot, which wasn’t 5.11’s fault but my own for not realizing. Calling customer service to see if anything can be done about the treads. If not it’s understandable, but moving forward I will definitely be buying different brands as I can not afford $165 on a biweekly basis.
Based on things people have said on the internet, the Rocky SV2 seemed to be the most highly regarded military boot. I'm not sure about the Danners and the Belleville boots featured in this vid but I believe the Rockys are used in actual military operations.
In the Navy I was issued Rocky S2V(not this barefoot version though), Belleville Sabre, Bellville 330STBelleville 880ST for the flight deck, and my boot amp boots were some crappy Bates. The 880 were nice for standing/being on your feet for long periods, but the Rocky’s were the most comfortable for moving around and working.
Should do an episode comparing popular Special Operations boots. Lowa Zephyrs, Lowa Z6, Salomon Forces Quest 4D, Salomon Forces XA Mid, Asolo Fugitives, Oboz Bridgers, Vasque Juxt, pretty much the civilian hiking shoes used by the highspeed guys
Out of all of these, Zephyrs rank the highest among my specops friends, the rest just don't compare. A close second for me is the salomon 4d with a replacement insole. Can't beat the foot stability and durability of the sole
@@vinceiopez3657 I’ve heard the Lowas are a favorite for all around and the Salomons are good for speed and light ops. I’m trying to get a pair of the non-goretex Zephyrs, a lot of the AFSOC dudes I went to Jump school with said it sucked for when the boots got muddy cause the membrane would get super crusty
@@DJ-fd4qk they're definitely good investments, I went through a portion of AFSOC myself and everyone prefers the non goretex ones. Though good luck finding lowas at a retail store outside of a military base. You'd have better luck buying them online. I prefer Solomons myself, I particularly like the 4DGTX and the Jungle forces for their breathability and lightness.
Used to be in Civil Air Patrol so my boots didn't get abused often. Had a pair of issue boots I hated. Bought a pair of Northwest Territory from KMart in '93. Just about wore the soles out between work and CAP, but they're still comfortable. Got Rocky's cheapest steel toed boots in 2001 for my regular work. Still look and feel good but they are heavy. Never wore them a lot and went back to Wolverines. Had to add a Dr Shoals insoles to the Rocky's to make them fit well after I wore them for a couple months and they stretched. Haven't seen any Northwest Territory boots since KMart folded, but I'd buy another pair if I needed some.
I'm 6'4" with size 13 feet. I can barely fit a few days' worth of clothes into a rollaboard. When I have to bring a uniform with me, the boots alone can take up half the bag. I bought the Belleville Mini-Mils as soon as they came out because they fold up smaller than a pair of sneakers, and I can fit my stuff in a carry on. I wouldn't wear them carrying a pack or outside the wire, but for walking around an office in cammies and boots - which is what most of us do when we're on official travel - they're just fine.
I got some Belleville all black leather boots from a military surplus store in Canada for $125 cad. They’re goretex lined and have been an amazing purchase so far. Crazy value.
Update: I've been waring the Bellville mini mils for several months now, and I think I've found my ideal boot. Idk what you're talking about they are the most comfortable footwear I own.
If you are here seeking information and a source to aid you in choosing a boot for field military use, use caution and be mindful that the MISSION dictates the boot. In Afghanistan I wore the Rocky S2V cold weather, I wore Ripple sole, I wore Asolo GTX, and I wore semi dress shoes. Every time I put on my kit the first thing I considered was the terrain. Several guys got the latest and greatest lightweight boots, mainly the Nike boots. By the end of long missions, 100MPH tape was the only thing holding the soles on, or the terrain would cause excessive soft tissue damage to the foot due to the fact that the sole material was excessively soft. Your ability to move starts with your feet, a soldier that cannot move is already a corpse. You would never go into combat with a weapon that doesn't work, so why start with boots that don't work. Rule #1; Make sure what boot you get matches the needs of the environment, a-l-w-a-y-s leather...no exceptions, tall heel boots to use the heel hook method for traversing in jungle climate, hard soles for rugged rocky terrain, boot design that will easily mate with crampons for icy terrain, loose fitting boots to allow for extra thick socks and still fit in a set of rubber duckies in extreme cold environments, well ventilated boots for wet terrain, well supported tall boots for PLF in airborne operations, etc. Rule #2; Always spend a significant amount of time wearing (breaking) in the boots properly there should never be any surprises when you wear boots. Rule# 3; Condition your feet, the boots are part of a system, the system also includes socks, laces, but starts with your feet. Toughen your feet up and you should never get a blister. Rule #4; Dry out your boots whenever you have a chance, moisture kills feet, it's called trench foot for a reason. Google it Take care and be safe you animals.
I was never able to tie my Rockies tight enough to make them tactical. The top hole was always too loose. My go to was always the Danner's in my 24 year military career.
If you do another tactical boot episode it might be worthwhile going into the actual (non-aesthetic) differences between a tactical boot and a work boot, sneaker, etc. (if there even is any at this point) and why those differences exist.
I'm on my second pair of the Bellevilles, before that I wore the 5.11 fast tac and the Danner tachyon. I have flat, wide feet, and these have saved my knees and back.
I wore the Rockys ...older model for over 2 years in Afghanistan and they were excellent. They started splitting from the sole eventually and all I did was drip a little super glue and they are still holding together. They are my lawn cutting boots now though LoL
Finally! Shoes that people actually use! Seriously, you got to start showing more stuff people want and do use. I wish you would have shown off a USA made Rocky boots instead. Missed opportunity to show that we still make shoes/boots in the USA and to see if the quality is any different. Also that Reebok "boot" felt like a wasted slot for a different boot. Nike probably had a better tactical boot than them. I own Rockys Code Blue 8in boots, they're supposed to be for law enforcement but i use them in construction. Very stiff and have to be broken in a bit, but they feel great and solid after. Also has a leather heel counter. Pretty durable so far after a year.
My boots always wear out in the inside of the heal first, and that can’t be repaired. I have thrown away otherwise perfectly good boots because I wore through the heal. For me, that leather in the heal of the Bellevilles is the most important part.
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Is a tactical boot basically the same as a hiking boot?
Thanks Rose Anvil, I still think that a tac boot needs a true heel like the OG jungle boot. Like the logging White's heel help you go down hill, you would be falling all over the place if you needed to go down hill.
Can you do an affordable work boots video? Alternatives to the traditional nubuck timberland pro work boots
I could be wrong here but the diagram at 0:58 is incorrect. It looks like theyre reversed. the blake stitch is on the left and the goodyear on the right
What about Garmont Tactical boots?
Being in the army, I would love to see the standard army boots compared to standard issue ones. The AR 670-1 boots I see and hear about most offen are Belleville,Oakley, rocky, Nike, and a random walmart brand I can't remember. It would be interesting to see the differences more than the rumors about each one.
I was issued the Belleville. They felt terrible. I now wear the Rocky C4T
I wore the Under Armour Jungle Rats when I was in and loved them.
Bummer that UA doesn't make them anymore.
You got to choose your boots?
I took apart a pair of standard issue boots before, and there really isn't much to them. Fiberglass shank, cardboard heel and toe counter, canvas toe and heel cover and a fiberboard insole. The dual density foam layers past the footbed are neat, but its the vibram sieria sole that is the only really expensive part of the boot.
I want to see him reviews from top-end magnums
I think what gets discounted in this barefoot series is that once you are properly conditioned to barefoot boots, then the flexibility of a proper minimal boot is far more important to comfort than any padding could be. Basically if the boot completely moves with your foot, then it can’t rub and cause hot spots and nor should the counter cover wear out because there’s not the same friction on it. Then you also realise how much more stable you feel the closer to the ground you are, so all the stuff about foam adding stability is out the window once you have muscles in your feet and your feet have maximum contact with the terrain. But listen to the advice in these videos: you need to transition to barefoot shoes for any of this to hold true or you could get hurt.
It's true that ground feel enhances stability. It's also true that 'in the wild' rocks and roots will beat the hell out of the bottom of your foot if the sole is too flexible. Especially if you're carrying a pack. I say this having worn various barefoot shoes for >15 years and then making the mistake of trying to go barefoot on a two-week section hike of the Appalachian Trail, and coming home with foot injuries that took weeks to recover from. There's a middle ground. Also, I spent nearly thirty years in the Special Forces, a lot of that as a medic. I have tried a lot of standard-issue and nonstandard-issue footwear. And treated a lot of blisters, plantar fasciitis, ankle sprains and fractures. Love that ground feel but too much can be dangerous in the wrong environment. Oh, and one more thing. If you happen to do a lot of ladder climbing, for example, the wire rope assault ladder into a helicopter, you'll definitely want a heel on your boot.
@@brimstone33 Agree with all of that. You have to have the right tool for the job.
I've hiked with a pack on up those knarly mountain trails in my Belleville barefoot boots, and they performed awesome. I have 1/4 inch wool felt in the bottom, and that was enough padding to prevent rocks from hurting, while still letting me move ninja over the terrain.
@@bigd7355great to hear, I'm most interested in the Bellville's
@@brimstone33 might be an age thing too, no offense. i mean, based on your experience, you're really old. your body is nowhere near as robust as it was years ago. nothing to be ashamed of. as one ages, people can get stronger, but they get more prone to injury and take longer to recover after exertion.
I love that you still call out companies on their bullshit. Marketing bullshit, cutting corners, cheap materials, ect. Companies need to stop lying to people about the quality of their products, especially the workforce. We need more people doing this with products.
I have been in the military since 1989. The worst boot was the old black leather. I loved the jungle boot. My favorite boot is this Rocky. Even though I have the steal toe version, they are very comfortable. It takes a day to break them in. I work in liquid fuels and water. I have put them through hell while deployed to the Middle East and I still wear them.
I was a paratrooper and a medic and my Rocky's being so thick saved my ankles more times than I can count. In fact, I can only remember having to treat two injuries with S2Vs compared to dozens of Nikes, Belleveilles, and Danners. Yeah, they were heavy as all hell during a long movement, but after a while you get used to them. In 8 years, I went through 3 pairs and the only pair that ever fell apart were my 3rd pair on my last week in the Army which I honestly thought was pretty fitting.
I wonder if it makes a difference between the S2V made in th US and the Predators that are made overseas.
@TheSlayer. The predators are more minimal in my opinion, the traditional s2v are built better I think
Stoked to see tactical boots being covered. I've owned both the Rocky and the Belleville boots. I was issued Rocky for my deployment and purchased the Belleville on my own. Despite the additional comforts of the Rockies, I loved the Belleville boots waaaaaaaay more (I still own and wear them). Even having been conditioned to minimalist footwear, the Bellevilles needed just a little bit of squish, so I bought the $3 foam insoles from the BX. Worked beautifully. I tried the Danners as well. Also great feeling boots.
If you continue doing tactical boots, I would recommend doing the Corcoran Marauders. So many airmen wore them and they had such a killer reputation, but they royally destroyed my heels. They never broke in. I hated them and I need my bias confirmed lol.
I love my marauders, the only complaint I have is that the get so wet so easily. I've had the Rockies, and every pair I was ever issued squeaked. I have a pair of backup Bellevilles that sit at the very back of my closet and I hope I never have to lace up.
The Rocky S2V are my favorite probably of all time. I have come to really like Danner as of late though.
The Belleville mini mils are by far the most comfortable boots I've ever worn - my feet are very well adapted to barefoot though. If you sno-seal the roughout, the leather will last forever. It also takes leather die very well.
As has been mentioned, thicker isn't always better.
I hike many hundreds of miles a year in rocky terrain. I used to be a boot hiker. My feet were weak. I transitioned to thin, zero lift trail running shoes. Now I love the feel of the ground and rocks under my feet. My stability and agility have improved. I haven't turned an ankle since I went low and thin. I now hate cushioning. I have climbed mountains in the Rockies, I have hiked the Grand Canyon rim to rim, 25 miles in one day. I never get blisters or have any foot trouble. Cushioning is way over rated.
The only time I wear boots is during winter snow hiking in sub freezing and sub-zero weather.
I did all of my military conditioning hikes in Bates Lites or the Danner Reckonings, and the one time I ever injured my ankles was not even during training, and it was wearing the heavier McRaes. Lightweight is best weight.
As someone that wears tactical boots for a living, I really enjoy and appreciate this series. If you could include Salomon’s in one of the comparisons that would be great.
wore rocky s2v my whole infantryman career, including Afghanistan tour. absolutely fantastic boots. got out and still use an old pair on weekends in the woods, almost 10 years later. great great boot.
Have worn the Rocky’s s2v steel toe for the last 5 or so years on duty. Easily the most comfortable military boot I’ve ever worn. Usually get about 1-2 years out of them so I can justify the cost. Aircraft maintenance is hard on footwear.
I rock the same ones and love them. Being on the flight line is rough on our boots and the Rocky’s have held up nice.
I worked Air Transportation in the military. After almost wearing a hole in the steel-toe boots that were issued to me, I switched to Rockys and to this day I miss those boots. They're my Roman empire. They went through hell. They held up so well that my dad stole them from me when I separated and I never saw him or my boots again.
I wear the Rocky SV2 Predator and love them. They are super comfortable. I have had them for 8 months so far and have had no issues. My coworker just bought a pair too and he loves them.
Would be cool to see Salomon XA Forces GTX and Quest 4D GTX Forces boots being in the next one, along with Altama Maritime Assault shoes, and the Altama PRO-X Jungle boots as well.
I would agree. i've been eyeing the solomons for when my Rocky's Wear out. Also the MAritime assaults are my daily shoe. Love them
@@ManBearPig781 Very cool, would love to get my hands on the Altama Maritimes someday.
salomons are ok, but wear much much faster than any boots i've worn. and the xa forces suck bc of the tongue. absolutely avoid at all costs. they constantly work their way to the outside of your pants and everything will fall into your boots.
Only issues I've had with the Altamas are the insoles (they're rubber which dries easily but is hard underfoot and eats through socks) and the ankle support. Changing out the insole is a good move with these but there's really no solution to the ankle support. The whole boot is a mesh material which is good for letting water out but not great for keeping you from rolling ankles on hikes.
Other than that, they're built pretty solid. Had a pair for a few years and other than some fraying on the finger loop on the heel, they've held up.
@@Khan.WrathOf That’s actually a great result you’ve got out of your pair, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts about the Altama Maritime Assault shoes. Although I’d like to swap the insoles out for something else like the Ortholite insoles, I think I wouldn’t have to worry much about the ankle support as I’d treat them more of a lightweight pair of shoes since I wouldn’t be doing anything crazy with it, besides being a casual pair and for skateboarding/long boarding, and of course for Airsoft as well. And I think I wouldn’t worry much with them if they do get wet in the rain, since it’s what they’re mostly designed for, just to not hold onto water as much.
Once again, thank you for your thoughts and tips, it’s very helpful! :)
I've had the 5.11 A/T for 2 years now and it's been one of the best boots I've worn. The removable shank does make a difference.
The atlas foot plate?
got 5.11 ATACs and I was surprised at how good they feel during hikes for $AUD 165
Great video! I switched to minimalist shoes about a year ago and just got the Belleville’s at the start of the year. I wear them every day since I’m in the Army and gotta say they are great boots. If you’re looking for a true minimalist boot you can wear in uniform, they do really well.
I was cheesed to see you do the Rocky’s. With experience I can attest they are top for durability. I Got a pair 15 years ago, because let’s face it the standard issue I had until then terribly uncomfortable and I herd a lot of good things about the Rocky’s. For the next 9 years they served me well until my ETS and they still work wonderfully as my go to for yard work , hiking and whatever else outdoors I may do. Replaced the insoles once in this span of time. The insoles have so much squish and are so comfortable that have purchased additional insoles to swap in for my work boots (red wing king toe) and couldn’t be happier.
My first pair of Belleville Mini-Mil boots, the counter failed. Not the cover, but the actual counter. It crumbled into tiny pieces and caused hot spots and blisters, ended up tossing them. I'm on my second and third pairs now, so far no issues.
Have you used them while carrying a heavy backpack or hiked?
@@Megatonaxe Yes, and I don't recommend it. Hiking casually under no load is fine. But if you're currently serving with the intention to use them for rucks or school (air assault school, etc.) don't. Use a boot with some actual support. Garmont NFS is a really popular option.
I've had my rocky s2v made in USA for ten years now. Used them for hunting, hiking, and backyard construction. Still going strong.
Had a pair of Danner Tachyons for probably about 8 years that I beat the shit out of and I absolutely loved them. Small chunks of the midsole were missing and there was little a hole or two in the leather when I finally retired them because the soles were basically smooth. Replaced them with Nike SFBs which are fine but just not the same.
Best boots I ever had for light-infantry work were the Altama EXO-Speed 1. Those boots did parachuting, long patrols in the bush with 40kg-60kg and lasted years. Never got blisters or even a hotspot. The lateral ankle support was fantastic. As someone with flat feet, it's hard to find boots that won't cause pain and fatigue while doing that kind of work.
The EXO-Speed 2 were nowhere near as long lasting. The Rocky SV2s had a decent sole, but no lateral support for the ankles. I'd love to see the EXO Speed 1s come back with Altama's OTB tread, so much grip!
I am not sure you can really rate a shoe for its minimalism until you have worn them long enough to be able to walk or run in them properly. I can tell you right now that the Bellevilles are the best minimal shoe in this line up and would be the easiest for a minimalist runner to run in.
Agreed - the minimils are the only boot in this lineup that could really be considered minimalist. That said they could definitely be improved, most notably by getting rid of the weird plastic heel counters that crumble as the boots break in. It's interesting/disappointing that he didn't get into that, but I actually removed the heel counters from my pair and it's a huge upgrade.
The break in period was surprisingly rough for me but I really like them. Just finished a 5 mile walk in them and will ruck with them this week.
I agree. His argument is better leather better durable but wait till it rain outdoors and marching in wet leather boots. It's the worst. Without GTX, it's nightmare and it won't last long because of constant wetness
I'm really glad you're doing this one! Tactical boots are about all I wear. The Rocky S2V is my all time favorite. I would definitely pick the Rocky over 5.11 any day. The SV2 are really good. I've come to like Danner in last year or so but not this model boot. There's many more I'd like to try but being expensive, I tend to go with what I know is good. I appreciate you doing these videos because it helps a lot! I like knowing what's in them. 🤙🏼
For decades I've worn Belleville C320s, considering them the best combat boot since my issued Jungle Boots. But I was riding my bicycle and was hit by a SUV. Back broken at the L-1, my left femur shattered into eight pieces with a three inch gap where bone used to be, my left arm broken in three places, my left shoulder dislocated, a concussion, and plenty of road rash. The impact should have killed me. I was told that as a 60 year-old man I would never recover enough to walk without a walker or cane. But, after six months in a hospital bed, three reconstructive surgeries, over two years of supervised physical therapy, I was able to jog four miles cross-country in under an hour without any devices. And I did it in less than three years after the collision. During my recovery, my broken back made zero-drop footwear desirable. I bought the pair of Bellevilles in this video. There is a plastic-like reinforced cup around the heel keeping the boot from sagging as it breaks in. But it also cuts your Achilles Tendon on the forward swing of your foot. It's like wearing a bear trap around your ankle at every step. I had to go back to the Belleville C320, which is what I wear when I jog cross country.
I hear there's a break in period for them but after that they are super comfortable.
I've either purchased or been issued all of these boots and the Rocky S2V is the best of the bunch. I've probably purchased 10 pairs over the years and worn them in garrison and deployed. They hold up well and dry fast. The rounded heel keeps you from rolling ankles as they don't snap over a sharp edge but roll more gently.
I am army infantry and hands down garmont t8 bifidas are the best ar670 boot for all around use, comfort and durability. The rockys are best for rucking and field exercises in rough terrain. For paved road ruck marches or long distance running i recommend the original belleville amrap. Oakley light assaults and the danners are the closest thing to civilian tennis shoe comfort you can get in uniform and are best for the office and motorpool.
the 511s lasted two years. the rocky’s lasted eight years. mine are older and were made in the us. also the rockys are the only boots that my feet don’t sweat in in hot weather because they have so much airflow. not so great in cold weather also due to the airflow. one nice feature is when they are soaked they dry in about three hours. the nice thing about that is you step in water for a few minutes and walk them dry and they come out like they were custom made for your foot.
5.11 / for the Traction. Top features that are real and work and the deciding factor for me is always traction. Where I am likely to be steep hills in the woods with loose surfaces traction with cliffs and large rocks the best traction gets things done and prevents injuries. Like a good knife the final factor is grip especially when wet.
Replaced my Rocky’s with a pair of Nicks Tactical Boots. Best decision I’ve made for boots. The Rocky’s were comfortable but never lasted more than a year.
This tactical boot series is excellent. I'm in the military and most guys will have multiple pairs of boots - your "garrison" boot for those 9-5 going to work on base days (where you see a lot of these minimalist cheaper boots) and than an exercise/operation boot. I rock the Danner Tachyons for Garrison and I'm eyeballing the Rocky's for a new exercise boot now that my standard issue Mark IV goretext boots have worn through. The goretex Tachyons are great because I don't have to put any extra mileage on my exercise boots during the winter and they feel like a slipper.
The Rocky's and Lowas are by far the most popular for exercises - I even know of some guys who keep the insole from the Rocky's and put it in their Lowas. I personally think the Lowas are ugly as sin and look like a coyote tan power ranger would wear. But, to each their own. Dudes really swear by them.
I think a couple brands to include for a follow up would be Altberg, Ultimas, and SWATs.
Belleville C320 is the best AR670-1 boot hands down. 1 pair lasted me all of Ranger School with 2 mountains. At the end the only thing that busted through was as the balls of your feet. Not the lightest but light enough you can sprint or ruck-run easily. Enough to support your ankles (I have good ankles though). They dry within an hour of walking if rain made them wet and within 4 hours if you stepped in a stream. The only thing I changed was adding in a hiking insole.
I was issued the Rocky’s when I deployed to Afghanistan, they were comfy but fell apart after 3 months, I had to use my good ole Belleville’s for the rest of it.
S2v is a truck. Right out of the box went on an 8 mi ruck, other boots were soaked. Figured i would have less damage from the new dry boots. Got back no issues, feet intact. Those boots feel like a warm blanket
Quality control on the Bellevilles is hit and miss. I have two pairs - the black leather version and and the sage green air force version. The black ones bow out so much at the sides due to the construction method that I feel ridiculous wearing them. The green version has a weird seam or collection of materials in the toe that causes a hotspot. Love these minimalist videos.
The last comment about making these videos so we don’t have to just guess really sums up my years and years of watching this channel. Absolutely FIRE, and relaxing, content my dude!
I wore the steel toe Rocky S2V for my last two years in the Air Force, working on the flight line. I loved them so much I wore them every day for the next three years as a civilian. They held up great and I only stopped wearing them when I replaced then with the Rocky S2V Jungle as water resistance was more important to me.
Never buy tactical boots with a zip. They can break. A torn ligament hurts. Ask me how i know.
I rotated three different versions of Rocky over the course of almost 10 years in the Navy (the version you tested here, the steel toe version, and a Gortex winter version) and yeah, they're durable as hell and I thought they were all really comfy. Luckily, they issued me a lot of spares lol, so I still have a few NIB!
Non military here. But active in the outdoors and healthcare. Even within 1 brand there can be so much variety of quality-comfort-long lasting wear.
I have 5.11 ATAC 2.0 S.Z. with (foot) mobility issues, light, comfy, but the inner liner wears out faster than the rest of the boot wich looks well. Just sharing thoughts. Thanks
I've worn 5.11s for ten years if various types everyday before graduating to Redwings and now Nick's. I will say for cheap boots, 5.11s usually lasted me 2 years of beating the absolute hell out of them on trails and light trades' work. As someone who is very flat-footed, they tended to help with that which is why I stuck with them. The only problem I had was when they failed, there was no saving them. I'm talking like as soon as the cemet holding the sole cracks off just a little or a tear developed, the boots had maybe a month left before they were completely toast.
i went from 5.11 to nicks as well!
Ive been rocking the rockies for years and they are the best. I took the plunge and it literally cannot go back to other boots, the rockies are head and shoulders above the rest
For the past 3 years, I've worn the Rocky's. I initially chose them due to the sole being stitched and not glued. I've had problems with all the glued boots breaking. The only worn part on the rocky I've experienced is the leather cracking right past the toes on the side. Other than that, I love them
When I started with the army reserve everyone was wearing rocky s2v boots, so as soon as I could dump the issued boots that's what I got myself and they were really amazing and served me well. Now almost everyone is wearing Lowas, and for good reason I think, the quality and comfort is just better. I Have a pair of Aku Pilgrims and A pair of Altbergs now as military boots and a pair of civilian lowa renegades and all of them are great. I think you should try cutting apart some altbergs, they seem to be made in a pretty old school way with a lot of care and consideration, and are very high quality.
I bought some "boot campaign boots" not sure what brand they were but they were done of the coolest lightest boots I've owned. Only got a year or of them on the farm though. Between the chemicals and things i do it takes a good boot to hold up. Thorogood flyway boots lasted 2 years. I'm 6 months in on my Nick's so far so good they are just heavy
Hey Alex!
What style of Nicks do you have?
@@georgiaboy2023 walnut builder pro. It's by far the most comfortable shoe I've worn. The break-in wasn't bad I put them on the day they came in the mail. I just wore them about the 3 day my feet hurt but i was standing and moving all day. After that it was fine
@@alexduke5402 amazing!
I wore the Belleville Mini-Mils for Anti-Poaching patrols in SA. 50km a day/night in the bush. Incredibly comfortable boot. Least protective of acute hazards, but your main hazards in that environment are chronic - and then they are the best boot IMHO. I wish they had a toe guard and a zip up the side. Otherwise, perfect.
I had the Rocky s2v's during my time. I walked, ran, and rucked so much in those that I wore a spot on the heels completely through so that the polyurethane foam midsole was showing on each boot. They never once gave me a blister and I never wore through the counter on the inside despite that being a weak spot on your video. Literally felt like I had pillows strapped to my feet the entire time. 10/10 best boot ever.
All boots talk aside, Thank you for your service everyone. I was also in the army and I remember my boots were too uncomfortable and I got Nike Combat boots in the end that was approved.
I just got done spending a month in the field with the Bellvilles, going assaulting 2 objectives a day on top of hills every day. The Bellville held up well, nothing got in, but you need to be used to wearing bearfoot shoes/boot I recommend getting fpinsoles like the kings that are 0 drop and wide toe box for rucking mainly on gravle, hardball and uneven terrain the sole that it came with was fine. That's if you need a AR670-1 boot if not the vivo trekkers are a much better boot. *Side note pair them with a pair of xero genesis bf sandals 1 that make a great shower shoe, 2 that weigh nothing and take up no space in a assault bag or ruck, which leads me to 3 they are great to wear at the ORP when your letting your boots and feet air out and dry.
Best tac boots are Garmont T8 and they have the NFS that could have been in the vid
When I was in the Army, I had thorns go straight through my Rocky SV2s and into my foot multiple times.
I have 6 different pairs of the S2V's for scouting and hunting here in NW Wyoming.
I have put thousands of miles on them in some of the roughest and most diverse terrain, not to mention weather, in the country.
I've carried up to a 150# pack in them for miles!
I have extremely wide feet.
They have been hands down the most durable and comfortable boots I have ever worn.
Infantryman who uses the mini mils, my favorite boot. Great for timed rucks when you have the 12 mile in 3 hours. For heavy rucks, 50lbs+, I recommend something with a thicker sole like a Belleville c320.
Mini mils are a all around decent boot, have yet to lose an eyelet and have worn them over a 100 miles of rucking.
Something I’d like to point out about comfort, things like good heel counter , good insoles and light weight are the key too a good boot. Fiberglass shanks, heavy boots, bad heel counters will ruin boots as from heavy use shanks break, these boots aren’t meant for walking on a job site but rather running through any environment, usually the outdoors, but occasionally concrete with broken glass.
In these boots you will have to swim ruck and also feel the environment you walk on. Especially at night knowing what you’re walking on can be extremely important.
Mini mils in my opinion the best. But then I wear minimalist shoes regularly and have built up my calf muscles, so these benefits may not be true everyone. I definitely recommend switching out your insoles for some good ones that have excellent cushioning.
The earlier gen Belleville's were solid boots, and the 105's have a couple of upgrades. That said- they're NOT tactical boots, only styled that way for uniform compliance. They're more for training those calf and foot muscles while doing daily BS. They are pretty nice for a second light weight pair of boots rather than crocs or sandals.
i can confirm i have a pair of rocky standard issue hot weather boots that i was issued 2018 that i still wear to work everyday, they have infact lasted longer than most marriages
I’ve tried the Rockys twice. They DESTROY my heels. Like a cheese grater back there. I’ve tried many things including taping my heels. Too bad because I like them otherwise. But you can only come back from a hike with bloody heels so many times. I have insulated ones for winter and those work perfectly.
I actually ordered myself some Rocky Boots, pretty informative to watch this and quite happy that the sole is actually sewn on, I dont trust glued on soles too much wich is why I prefer my veeeeery old germany army boots since they are very durable (my dad used his 50 years for motorbike rides and only had to replace the glued heel once)
Rockys are monsters. I took mine through special forces school and they've held up great with the comfort and sole durability.
When I’m on my feet 12 to 14 hours a day, the most important thing is comfort. I would say a close second would be puncture protection on the bottom. The bottom of the boot generally does not last more than a year, after that, the tread nearly gone. I’ll normally purchase a new pair of boots every year.
I would suggest for your next video you take a poll with your police officer followers to see what boots they wear. Some of the ones I have gone through are Bates, Oakley, Under Armor and New Balance.
I have worn the Rocky boots in the military for well over a decade now. I have owned 4 pairs in that time. No other boots. They are awesome!!! You chose well!
Bellevilles are the best work boots i have ever purchased. As a plumbing and heating mechanic, they have stood up better than any other brand ive purchased. Theyve outlasted keens, red wings, etc. I will never purchase another brand/style ever again.
Awesome video always love to see the specially being Air Force myself. If you have the time I would love to see go over Altima maritime assault boot, Solomon Quest 4D, Lowa Innox pro, Danner 20512 fullbore, Oakley light assault boot. hopefully the series isn’t becoming redundant for you. I really appreciate your attention to detail and breaking down the facts for us viewers. Thank you for your time.
Buddy let me tell you something I am so thankful you did this one. I’m a veteran, I believe I commented on your last couple videos about doing something like this one. Either way, thank you for letting me finally see this! But yes as some of the others have said we would love to see one based on the basic training boots! I thought rocky and garmont brand army boots was the best!
I have this 5.11 and I love them for long days of fishing, both walking through the forest to get to the lake and standing around just casting all day, they are also great when wet the don’t slip, but they are not waterproof so your feet will get wet they also don’t dry out fast which I don’t mind.
I really love them.
Corcoran Marauder's were the most comfortable uniform boots I've worn personally, would be great to see how those are constructed
Same! I eventually bought a pair of the Rockys and I was so disappointed.
18 months in Afghanistan wearing only ONE pair of boots. That boot is the Rocky. Couldn’t have used a boot harder. Zero tread left on them but they held up better then any boot I’ve owned by far.
I wear the minis at my job. Best option for construction minimalist boots. They work incredibly well if you're used to being barefoot
I’ve been wearing S2Vs since 2007, ever since getting back from my first Iraq deployment. One pair usually lasts me about a year of daily wear, and it’s usually the outsole tread that wears out first.
Rocky is the best, all day walking up and down the ladders onboard ships. Super comfy.
Nike, under armor and garmonts were a popular choice at my unit
Bates Men's 8" Ultralite Tactical Sport are the most comfortable and seem to last. Had first pair for two years everyday use, and is holding up well.
The verdict is in!! 17:40-17:50 with the true winner of being a minimalist boot at 17:46. And it's the only boots that is actually minimalist.
I have a pair of Oakley assault boots for over 11 years now and they still going, fu@ked but still going. The best boots i ever owned.
So fun bit of trivia, L.L. Bean boots used to sell leather and shearling insoles with shanks in them, and the bottoms were molded shankless. Now they're molded with shanks inside, and the shearling and foam insoles are floppy.
The C4T rocky boots are stupid comfy really ridiculous how comfy they are love em
I’m in the marine Corps. I would love to see standard issued boots get cut in half. USMC combat boots, Jungle boots, RAT boots.
And for the most popular boot… the Danner Reckonings 😎I love your videos!
I have the bates shock. I had another pair of bates and reebok and sketchers and they all fell apart. The shocks have lasted me the longest. I'm on my feet 10-12 hours a day, these style shoes are light enough but meet my work standards.
Vet here. WIDTH in the toes is what matters for comfort. With that said, I'd take the Danner Tachyons or the (new) Reebok Nano Tactical boots (499 brown, not the black sneakers shown here).
Rocky's are the GOAT. Super comfortable amd durable
After watching a project farm video i switched my work boots from some hermans to the Reebok rapid response 8in boot with comp toe. I treated tgem with huburts shoe greese and my god im not looking back. Theyre so comfy, light and DURABLE. Yes i said it, i work construction and we got a job renovating a bunch of 4 storie appartment buildings so my feet and my knees were getting murdered walking stairs with loaded tool bags and riding in a 80ft man lift. They have preformed so good i plan on staying with these for all boot needs. No punctures, great water resitance and no signs of wear on the outsole yet. Im heavy so ive worm boots flat fast before. I would love to see them torn down here.
I've spent thousands of dollars on combat boots. The Danner Tachyon were by far my favorite for everything. I still wear them for hiking.
Boots I've worn in the service:
Concoran Marauders
Altama , Jungle Assault boots (my favorite safety toe boot for warm weather)
Rock Sv3s (fav safetey toe cold weather boots)
Aku Pilgrims (all season best non safety toe boot, beat the piss out of them ruck marching and hiking off duty).
Altama Maritime Assault boots (Vans on steroids basically)
In the Army, I used the Belleville One Xero Ultra Light Assault Boots. They were the cheapest compliant boots in the shop (besides the basic training boot) and are basically the same as the Mini Mil but with a more standard outsole. I broke them in on a 12 kilometer ruck march and got no blisters. I still have them. They've taken me through the heat, the cold, the humid, the dry, and even urine (don't ask). I swear by Belleville. So do Navy aviators and flight deck crews, though they'd use different, waterproof and melt-resistant models. Point is, if you want some modern production American military boots, get Bellevilles. They still make the Ultra Light Assault Boots I used a decade ago, just in a slightly darker color these days.
Too, for hard military use, almost any upper will be durable enough because the sole, which generally can't be replaced on the ones you get on base shops, will wear down before your roughout uppers even get stained. It's perfectly normal in all branches to go through a pair of boots every 1-2 years because the sole wears down from hard conditions. So if I am shopping for Army boots, I care that they dry out quickly, are breathable, and are comfortable. I'll be wearing them all day, but not all decade.
I used the 5.11 as my work boots in mountainous terrains and they lasted a week and a half.
They were extremely comfortable, the upper was amazing and offer a lot of protection. I didn’t have issues with rocks falling on my feet or twisting ankles when stepping on rocks and uneven terrain while running.
The flaw, and maybe I just got a defective pair, is by far the treading. The treads were absolutely destroyed after a week. Also I bought the display shoe and I didn’t realize it was missing the insole on one boot, which wasn’t 5.11’s fault but my own for not realizing.
Calling customer service to see if anything can be done about the treads. If not it’s understandable, but moving forward I will definitely be buying different brands as I can not afford $165 on a biweekly basis.
Garmonts are the absolute best tactical boots I've had. T8 Bifida for strength, T8 NFS for comfort
Based on things people have said on the internet, the Rocky SV2 seemed to be the most highly regarded military boot. I'm not sure about the Danners and the Belleville boots featured in this vid but I believe the Rockys are used in actual military operations.
You should check out lowa zephyrs and salomon forces. They're usually regarded higher.
In the Navy I was issued Rocky S2V(not this barefoot version though), Belleville Sabre, Bellville 330STBelleville 880ST for the flight deck, and my boot amp boots were some crappy Bates. The 880 were nice for standing/being on your feet for long periods, but the Rocky’s were the most comfortable for moving around and working.
@@notme3686 the only guys who wear those boots are SOF, as they are not in regulation for any branch of service.
Should do an episode comparing popular Special Operations boots. Lowa Zephyrs, Lowa Z6, Salomon Forces Quest 4D, Salomon Forces XA Mid, Asolo Fugitives, Oboz Bridgers, Vasque Juxt, pretty much the civilian hiking shoes used by the highspeed guys
Out of all of these, Zephyrs rank the highest among my specops friends, the rest just don't compare. A close second for me is the salomon 4d with a replacement insole. Can't beat the foot stability and durability of the sole
@@vinceiopez3657 I’ve heard the Lowas are a favorite for all around and the Salomons are good for speed and light ops. I’m trying to get a pair of the non-goretex Zephyrs, a lot of the AFSOC dudes I went to Jump school with said it sucked for when the boots got muddy cause the membrane would get super crusty
@@DJ-fd4qk they're definitely good investments, I went through a portion of AFSOC myself and everyone prefers the non goretex ones. Though good luck finding lowas at a retail store outside of a military base. You'd have better luck buying them online. I prefer Solomons myself, I particularly like the 4DGTX and the Jungle forces for their breathability and lightness.
I love the minimalist reviews!
Used to be in Civil Air Patrol so my boots didn't get abused often. Had a pair of issue boots I hated. Bought a pair of Northwest Territory from KMart in '93. Just about wore the soles out between work and CAP, but they're still comfortable. Got Rocky's cheapest steel toed boots in 2001 for my regular work. Still look and feel good but they are heavy. Never wore them a lot and went back to Wolverines. Had to add a Dr Shoals insoles to the Rocky's to make them fit well after I wore them for a couple months and they stretched. Haven't seen any Northwest Territory boots since KMart folded, but I'd buy another pair if I needed some.
I'm 6'4" with size 13 feet. I can barely fit a few days' worth of clothes into a rollaboard. When I have to bring a uniform with me, the boots alone can take up half the bag. I bought the Belleville Mini-Mils as soon as they came out because they fold up smaller than a pair of sneakers, and I can fit my stuff in a carry on. I wouldn't wear them carrying a pack or outside the wire, but for walking around an office in cammies and boots - which is what most of us do when we're on official travel - they're just fine.
I got some Belleville all black leather boots from a military surplus store in Canada for $125 cad. They’re goretex lined and have been an amazing purchase so far. Crazy value.
Those military surplus stores have some good stuff if you know what to look for
Something i would love to see is a 6 inch boot comparison for farming to see which is best. Manure eats through everything within 6 months
Update: I've been waring the Bellville mini mils for several months now, and I think I've found my ideal boot. Idk what you're talking about they are the most comfortable footwear I own.
If you are here seeking information and a source to aid you in choosing a boot for field military use, use caution and be mindful that the MISSION dictates the boot. In Afghanistan I wore the Rocky S2V cold weather, I wore Ripple sole, I wore Asolo GTX, and I wore semi dress shoes. Every time I put on my kit the first thing I considered was the terrain. Several guys got the latest and greatest lightweight boots, mainly the Nike boots. By the end of long missions, 100MPH tape was the only thing holding the soles on, or the terrain would cause excessive soft tissue damage to the foot due to the fact that the sole material was excessively soft. Your ability to move starts with your feet, a soldier that cannot move is already a corpse. You would never go into combat with a weapon that doesn't work, so why start with boots that don't work.
Rule #1; Make sure what boot you get matches the needs of the environment, a-l-w-a-y-s leather...no exceptions, tall heel boots to use the heel hook method for traversing in jungle climate, hard soles for rugged rocky terrain, boot design that will easily mate with crampons for icy terrain, loose fitting boots to allow for extra thick socks and still fit in a set of rubber duckies in extreme cold environments, well ventilated boots for wet terrain, well supported tall boots for PLF in airborne operations, etc.
Rule #2; Always spend a significant amount of time wearing (breaking) in the boots properly there should never be any surprises when you wear boots.
Rule# 3; Condition your feet, the boots are part of a system, the system also includes socks, laces, but starts with your feet. Toughen your feet up and you should never get a blister.
Rule #4; Dry out your boots whenever you have a chance, moisture kills feet, it's called trench foot for a reason. Google it
Take care and be safe you animals.
I was never able to tie my Rockies tight enough to make them tactical. The top hole was always too loose. My go to was always the Danner's in my 24 year military career.
If you do another tactical boot episode it might be worthwhile going into the actual (non-aesthetic) differences between a tactical boot and a work boot, sneaker, etc. (if there even is any at this point) and why those differences exist.
I'm on my second pair of the Bellevilles, before that I wore the 5.11 fast tac and the Danner tachyon.
I have flat, wide feet, and these have saved my knees and back.
I wore the Rockys ...older model for over 2 years in Afghanistan and they were excellent. They started splitting from the sole eventually and all I did was drip a little super glue and they are still holding together. They are my lawn cutting boots now though LoL
Finally! Shoes that people actually use! Seriously, you got to start showing more stuff people want and do use. I wish you would have shown off a USA made Rocky boots instead. Missed opportunity to show that we still make shoes/boots in the USA and to see if the quality is any different. Also that Reebok "boot" felt like a wasted slot for a different boot. Nike probably had a better tactical boot than them.
I own Rockys Code Blue 8in boots, they're supposed to be for law enforcement but i use them in construction. Very stiff and have to be broken in a bit, but they feel great and solid after. Also has a leather heel counter. Pretty durable so far after a year.
It will be great to see 5.11 most expensive boots and Lowa same price cut in half or just more videos about tactical boots.
My boots always wear out in the inside of the heal first, and that can’t be repaired. I have thrown away otherwise perfectly good boots because I wore through the heal. For me, that leather in the heal of the Bellevilles is the most important part.