NTSB B-Roll: Dallas, Texas Mid Air Collision (13/11/22)

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  • Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
  • November 13, 2022: NTSB investigators walk the scene of the 11/12/2022 mid-air collision between a Boeing B-17G and a Bell P-63F, at the Dallas Executive Airport Terminal.

Комментарии • 68

  • @Holabirdsupercluster
    @Holabirdsupercluster Год назад +33

    Really appreciate the drone footage, it gives a good perspective on the scale of these accidents

  • @chuckself
    @chuckself Год назад +36

    We know EXACTLY what happened. The NTSB's job is to determine WHY it happened. Give 'em time. They're good at what they do.

    • @xaero76
      @xaero76 Год назад +1

      Exactly

    • @moorfan1
      @moorfan1 Год назад +1

      They aren't just "good" at what they do. They are excellent at what they do!

  • @zachthomas7810
    @zachthomas7810 Год назад +5

    Very grateful this B-roll was released so quickly. RIP to all

  • @imaner76
    @imaner76 Год назад +18

    The only mercy is the speed at which this all took place. I do hope you get the the bottom of why the pattern overtake appears to have been done. RIP.

    • @boossersgarage3239
      @boossersgarage3239 Год назад +3

      lack of planning, no rehearsal. accident waiting to happen IMO

    • @hirisk761
      @hirisk761 Год назад +13

      @@boossersgarage3239 have you ever been in an airshow? they do extensive planning before they even start. all the programs routines are discussed during the pilots briefing and where the operational "box" is. the P63 lost situational awareness and hit the B-17.

    • @boossersgarage3239
      @boossersgarage3239 Год назад +2

      @@hirisk761 , they obviously failed in their briefing. not enough. sorry bro. I worked in live performances for decades, I know what it takes to choreograph and direct. sad they didn't.

    • @theimperialowl1011
      @theimperialowl1011 Год назад +8

      @@boossersgarage3239 It's not really fair to speculate, especially given how little information we as the general public have. You could totally be right, but since we don't have all the flight plans, footage from the shows, maintenance information, data from the crash site, etc., we can't really say. The only thing is that a lot of the phone footage seems to show the King Cobra coming in with its belly to the B-17, but that could also be a failed attempt to turn away and avert the accident, we just don't know.

    • @darreno1450
      @darreno1450 Год назад +4

      Unfortunately, when it comes to general aviation, all the planning in the world can't make up for the other very possible shortcomings: pilot error, poor maintenance and improper repairs being 3 of the big ones. The commercial Airlines have very strict guidelines, air traffic control, usually well-trained pilots and multiple redundant systems hence the reason there are so few crashes.

  • @mixmashandtinker3266
    @mixmashandtinker3266 Год назад +7

    It’s scary how little are left of the two airframes.. 😢

  • @LWDavis58
    @LWDavis58 Год назад +16

    It would be interesting to see a re-creation of the ‘view’ Craig had while closing in. Same altitude, horizon line, rate of change. Etc. The B-17 painted in camo may have been a factor of seeing it. I tracked the bank angle of the P-63 and it did not change. Craig just plainly did not see the warbird. It was an accident of tremendous loss. Terrible. I hate it. But it was just an accident. Just as simple as that.
    Rest in eternal peace.

    • @brandonlewis9531
      @brandonlewis9531 Год назад +3

      From a pilot who was spectating he said he was listening to the communications between the air boss and the pilots flying in the airshow and he heard the air boss direct the p63 to overtake the b17… if this is true the air boss is partially responsible.

    • @unropednope4644
      @unropednope4644 Год назад

      @@brandonlewis9531 how would he know that he was specifically talking to that plane? Their were like 20 planes flying, bomb3rs and fighters

    • @brandonlewis9531
      @brandonlewis9531 Год назад +7

      @@unropednope4644 read what you just wrote.. if there were multiple planes flying wouldn’t the air boss give specific instructions? They just don’t say hey plane go by the other plane.. put some thought in man

    • @thesep1967
      @thesep1967 Год назад +1

      @@brandonlewis9531 How can you overtake something you don't even see?

  • @nukemman
    @nukemman Год назад +5

    I've watched different angles in different videos, I have heard reports and my opinion is, the P63 was told to overtake the B17. As both aircraft were in a lefthand bank, the P63 could not see the position of the B17. If there were ground spotters I don't know but there should have been an adjustment to aircraft altitudes. In any case, God with their families.

  • @elosogonzalez8739
    @elosogonzalez8739 Год назад +4

    There is so much video footage taken of this. It's pretty apparent how the investigation will head. My condolences to the families involved and the aviation world.

  • @davemc162
    @davemc162 Год назад +2

    Heartbreaking.

  • @crackerbarrel6965
    @crackerbarrel6965 Год назад +1

    I take it the NTSB A-Roll will never be released to the general public.

  • @checkeredflagfilms
    @checkeredflagfilms Год назад

    thanks for the aerial coverage

  • @viperq
    @viperq Год назад +1

    Luckily there were no casualties on the ground. RIP to the lives loss.

  • @rickrodrigues2219
    @rickrodrigues2219 Год назад +2

    Craig Hutain with enviable qualifications & 34,500 flying hours but yet he screwed up...big time!
    Caught up in the excitement flying around haphazardly? Experience does not give you immunity from mistakes...believe that much! Read the statistics!

  • @chris_hisss
    @chris_hisss Год назад

    Thank goodness you all have a drone! Last few b roles didnt have it on there though it was train incidents. Nice shot showing the mcdonalds that was in the film as well. Though from these angles it doesn't look like parts could have went out to that highway, unless there was a cross wind and very light particulates were there. Thanks for sharing.

  • @kengoodwin5838
    @kengoodwin5838 Год назад +1

    RIP

  • @Davechow12
    @Davechow12 Год назад +1

    If that impact had happened a second or two earlier that plane would have crashed into the highway.

  • @bk14nyc
    @bk14nyc Год назад +1

    There were way too many Aircraft’s in the sky not only at the same time, but at the same Altitude!!!!! This could of been Avoided! These beautiful Aircraft’s are GONE 😢

    • @davidcole333
      @davidcole333 Год назад

      I agree that this needs to be a recommendation to come out of the investigation.

    • @jtheriot51
      @jtheriot51 Год назад

      Too many ….Too low….zero tolerance is impossible when they’re scratching each other’s backs to begin with ….complacency kills

  • @LydiaStarz
    @LydiaStarz Год назад

    "Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground"...JT

  • @ffrich34
    @ffrich34 Год назад +2

    Cones mark body parts fyi

  • @MarkMurray-uj2rv
    @MarkMurray-uj2rv Год назад +1

    By and large, NTSB does a good job at investigative activities. However, they have to stop leaning on "probable cause." If an individual had to pay for an investigative report, they surely wouldn't get what they paid for with a determination of probable cause. Many humans are caused by accident, but all accidents are caused by humans.

  • @paulgooding803
    @paulgooding803 Год назад

    We saw exactly what happened. We know why it happened. As for what failures allowed it to happen, that's a three-letter answer. If you can, see some video or hear some audio of the pre-show briefing.

  • @Beltfedshooters
    @Beltfedshooters Год назад

    What are all the cones for?

    • @imaner76
      @imaner76 Год назад +2

      To mark out points of interest. Debris of all types. Log the landing position then retrace the path from origin.

    • @xaero76
      @xaero76 Год назад +1

      you have to think of it like a crime scene

  • @inspectorseb2887
    @inspectorseb2887 Год назад

    are those planes equipped with VCRs?

  • @anthonynolan1885
    @anthonynolan1885 Год назад +1

    Air boss's fault.

  • @ARFFWorld
    @ARFFWorld Год назад +6

    These videos would give much more value with some narration. I would love to be that voice for you. Let me know.

    • @Jetliner
      @Jetliner Год назад +4

      My guy it's a B-Roll

    • @ARFFWorld
      @ARFFWorld Год назад

      @@Jetliner I understand, but wouldn’t it be great and educational to the aviation community to have an expert explain what they are doing at the scene over the b-roll? Go watch my videos and compare.

    • @ARFFWorld
      @ARFFWorld Год назад +1

      @@h.db.9684 ruclips.net/video/xsASQ-ViKU4/видео.html

    • @ARFFWorld
      @ARFFWorld Год назад

      @@h.db.9684 I see. I don’t want to steal NTSBs footage without permission. Thanks for checking out my channel.

    • @jtheriot51
      @jtheriot51 Год назад

      GIVE IT TIME !!!!

  • @pharezknights5467
    @pharezknights5467 Год назад

    Thank God it didn't happen right over the houses, still terrible tho

  • @-Loki--
    @-Loki-- Год назад +1

    The little white flags 😔

  • @ArthurHubbard-z9x
    @ArthurHubbard-z9x 8 дней назад

    Smith Jason Anderson Lisa Williams Donna

  • @dunnkruger8825
    @dunnkruger8825 Год назад

    Well, that aircraft was there, but that aircraft was there too.
    Next

  • @cannon440
    @cannon440 Год назад

    Totally preventable, BAN ALL AIRSHOWS!

  • @jmwSeattle
    @jmwSeattle Год назад +2

    There is a bubble turret on top a B-17 for a spotter. Five crew members but not one performing “see and avoid”.

    • @GH-oi2jf
      @GH-oi2jf Год назад +5

      When there are no hostiles in the area, it doesn’t seem necessary. The best way to avoid collisions is by careful management of the airspace.

    • @jiitta
      @jiitta Год назад +3

      Being the larger, slower, less maneuverable aircraft(B-17) I doubt a spotter would have time to recognize the danger, communicate it to the pilots, and have time for evasive maneuvers. Also the low altitude would make it difficult to make a hard dive and recover.

    • @davidcole333
      @davidcole333 Год назад +1

      not going to help in this case. The P-63 would've needed the spotter.

  • @GettingthruLife
    @GettingthruLife Год назад

    No accidents but gross miscalculations. Very tragic for the crew and unfortunate for the historic aircraft. The good, things will be learned which will improve airshow safety moving forward. The pilots/crew died doing what they were passionate about and loved as much as life. Stuff like this is dangerous and all were aware and flew knowing this. Hope to see these folks in Heaven soon and back on this earth after the Tribulation during Christ's Millennial Reign. Likely doing what they enjoyed once again.

  • @torrarosa7064
    @torrarosa7064 Год назад +2

    Where's Jennifer ?? Being a licensed moped operator surely, she can contribute some valuable insight into this tragedy.

    • @jkorshak
      @jkorshak Год назад +1

      It's mostly been BuhBuhs and Chads. They're knowledge of 4wheeling and personal watercraft have been a Godsend in perspective.

  • @cathywallace6990
    @cathywallace6990 Год назад

    We will never know what happened they won't either it will always be a ? Like many airliners that have went down same with some of are military planes they never have a answer except people are dead

    • @xaero76
      @xaero76 Год назад

      We already know.... have to wait for the official answer....

    • @jiitta
      @jiitta Год назад

      This isn’t really a mystery. Many amateur and professional photographers attend this event. There are many more photos and videos that aren’t public. Many factors lead to accidents like this. One of the main goals of these investigations is to prevent a similar event occurring in the future.

    • @jtheriot51
      @jtheriot51 Год назад

      The film doesn’t lie….with no less than hundreds of phone videos ….every angle possible ….the blind spot killed them ….they’ll punch in the numbers between vids and air boss recording …the dead need us to answer for their actions ….I think