I wish Em just sticks with surprise drops cause people's expectations for this album is already through the roof (from what I've seen) and it's hard to please everyone but he must be really proud of this project so time will tell.
That’s what’s really interesting here, Eminem really seems to be very confident about this for there to be a rollout for it since revival 👀 I’m very excited
I think that Em could totally do a 4:44 after that. Also, Nas proved that you can talk about a lot of things and experiences that are exclusive for older people. Most of his demographic are middle age and older so they are going to relate.
Either way people will hate on it, from the people saying "i wanted old eminem," to the people saying, "eminem is 55 and still rapping about ___." At this point my advice to Eminem is to find a theme, stick to it and ultimately do what truly makes him happy, not trying to appeal to the expectations of every type of listener, (thats one thing that ruined revival, wasn't focused sonically and content wise, i.e. a mix of songs being poltical, personal, fictional or comical, because he thought that he made something that every type of fan will enjoy,) and the real fans like me will appreciate it.
Eminem at his best imo was always talking to you in a straightforward manner. The lyrics for Sing for the Moment, Toy Soldiers, Lose Yourself and Till I Collapse didn't have its message hidden behind word soup and a choppy flow that sounds like its trying to tetris its way into the beat. "These ideas are nightmares to white parents whose worst fear is a child with dyed hair and likes earrings." He's talking directly to you without any hidden meaning or a message that needs 50 punchlines and metaphors to deliver. That verse still has a complex rhyme pattern and deep lyricism but it doesnt compromise its song appeal for unecessary technical complexity.
Those songs need inspiration Most don't know artists are like energy manipulators He turned his life struggle into heat Turned the walk into fame into fire What he gonna turn into heat now? Idk if eminem gonna make much more heat heat I'm still check it tho and tbh feel he learnt from his last but idk if this gonna work hope I'm wrong af and he kill it
That's being childish... A giant like him being this sensitive is wild It's his fault thou.. His best selection is weak yet there's so many producers that would be happy to work with him
Had to come back to this video after listening to the album! My predictions on their review! -Feefo and Rod fuck with the album -Beezy likes most of the beats, believing it's Eminem's best production since Relapse -Ken is still indifferent towards the album, but respects it enough because of the production and features -They all hate the Skylar Grey track the most for obvious reasons -Fuel is the consensus favorite track because of JID and the production -Overall, not the best Eminem album, but his very best album to them since Relapse
@@marcosserafim7187 I wish/hope Myke makes a special guest appearance in the review in some capacity. He was probably the biggest Eminem fan when he was still apart of the group, and this album would seem like his cup of tea since it gives off Relapse vibes (Evil probably would be his favorite track)
Born in ‘96 so Em is my goat…born and raised in Southern Cali…Of course I grew up on all the classics…DMX, Nas, Das EFX, Cypress Hill, OutKast, Dre, Snoop, Cube…I can’t wait for this album….Em targeting Summer ‘24🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I don’t really know what direction he could go in. Staying relevant in today’s climate is tough at his age. Obviously the lyricism is going to be there.
As a former huge Em fan… I haven’t even wanted an Em album since MMLP2 hahaha I probably won’t even listen to this new shit more than an initial listen lol
I might be wrong but wasn’t a huge problem people had with Em post-relapse, was that he started losing that Slim Shady type persona and moved to become closer to what’s popular in the mainstream? Outside of a handful of songs, hasn’t he already kinda killed the alter ego? So idk how much a “killing of slim shady” album after trying to kill it since 2010 or whatever is the correct move imo
well he never made an official announcement of it character wise, he's just been trying to avoid the persona but brings it back every now and then (like he did on Kamikaze) Pretty sure the concept of this album is more of a message to his fans, like "please stop telling me to be Slim. I'm older, i don't need to be against "the system", i'm chill" Which now let's him focus on Marshall/Eminem more
Nah it’s his flow and delivery that changed. He traded in that slick fluid delivery pause for that staccato rushed double time flow. Also started relying too much on Word play and punchlines instead of imagery and storytelling which is his superpower.
Regardless, im very excited for this album and where Eminem will take it. I like that it has a theme. And if it’s a goodbye to his persona, then so be it. He’s gonna be 55 soon. I just hope to hear great production, some cool features, and great lyrics from Slim.
I think Em should zone in with 1 producer for the whole album, preferably The Alchemist because that is the most realistic option, an Al is dope. (I wrote this comment before watching the video)
@michaellacey7730 Ahh. I think he started doing that after Revival. Remember, Revival had like a whole rollout with the leading single track, which ironically featured Beyonce. That track sucked, and then people saw the track list and noticed all the pop star features and talked shit about that too. Then the album came out, and it was absolutely garbage, so after that he has been doing surprise drops. He is probably too scared to do a full complete roll-out again. Haha
@@OmoruyiOmofonmwan yup you're right. I did forget that though. ironicly Walk on water was the only song I liked on that album 😅 I'm cool with a more somber, introspective, socially conscious Em, but Revival wasn't the way to do that.
If Eminim raps like he is with Royce in Bad Meets Evil, or Caterpillar, hell even if he has lyrical thoughts when he was just talking on Royce Allegory album.
Honestly if it is that, I'd argue that is probably one of the best angles em could go for and be the most successful at doing so. Most people these days have finally come around to agreeing that Relapse was a good album it's just the accents annoy people or get on the nerves after some time etc etc. And whenever we've gotten something Relapse esq (notably when we got Discombobulated from MTMB Side B) people ate it up and many myself included saying it was one of his best tracks in a while
The concept of the tweet sounds cool but I'm worried it won't go this direction especially with that feature list floating around. I will go in there with the lowest expectations but would be happy to be proofed wrong. Also props to Spike he has been a great addition the past few videos he has been on
I feel that this album needs to be a return back to the Eminem of old. The album feels as though it has a solid concept, and much like Relapse or Kendricks GKMC album, I'd like to see each song tell a story and be connected to each other. I really hope its not like MTBMB where it seems to have a horrorcore concept but really dosnt. The only thing that gets me excited for this is the mention of Slim Shady.
Yeah and I'd like to see Em REALLY do that for once. He's never truly done it even with Relapse. At best he themes an album. But he's never connected the whole thing as a story, which is madness bc he's one of the best storytellers in rap history. But yeah it does feel like he's actually maybe going to do that this time. I hope so.
I am excited for eminem album becuase of the producers and also Nas and Dj Premiers album. These 2 album have the potential to be best albums of 2020s. I think that if eminem has good features in the album, it could be classic, and the features should be just rappers, no r&b and pop singer. just Hip Hop and maybe rap rock features like Zack De La Rocha or Mike Shinoda would be awesome. Eminem and Pusha T or Kendrick would be awesome features.
Why are you embarrassed? As a EM fan you should know why the back him so hard, especially when he gets criticized for the wrong reason alot of the time. people have a right to feel a certain way about things that's life.
lol them talking about... 'we don't know if he can do mature man rap'... wtf they talking about. He's been doing plenty of it his whole career. And recently. How tf is Arose not... it's one of the most somber, emotionally mature fucking things I've ever heard in rap. They're acting like all he does is rap silly shit or like slim shady or technical scheminical. How is Darkness not mature, how is Never Love Again, how is Zeus; Castle... and always... fuckin', Mockingbird, he's been doing this forever. Going Through Changes.
I know the Stans are hurt by this conversation but as a Em fan I’m excited by this release. My hope is that Em will make the first great Em album in 20 years. Hopefully he won’t do that stupid rapping fast, and actually have some great production and let the producers come up with great hooks.
Exactly. Dude don’t have it in him anymore. Eminem hasn’t made really good music in a crazy long ass time. His suburban/mobile home park fans will glaze regardless though lol
@chiarosuburekeni9325 like seriously his last few albums have basically been promoted as "concept" albums and then when you heart that shit it's like...where?
Hot take This album could basically just be Relapse 2 without the accents and I think it would be the easiest angle em could go for that would be successful. There is other angles especially in the conceptual side that can definitely work and be even more successful and would be better but I doubt we'd get that. At this point it's generally agreed by most that Relapse was not a bad album people just didn't like the accents and they got tired etc etc However beyond that it's a good album and the times we got something Relapse esq people ate that shit up (Notably Discombobulated from MTMB Side B, many people including you guys ate that up and wanted more) And I think if he finds that groove and sticks to it, we'll get a nice album
Eminem waited to long to turn the corner. He ate off of the corny element for 25 years. He has skills, but he never found his lane sonically or content wise. Compared to Nas and his run the last couple of years, Eminem has a lot of catching up to do. Nas & Premier > T.D.O.S.S
I think I’m just over Eminem albums. I think if he stops making these commercial ass rap albums he can appeal to the spitters again. Don’t get me wrong he still has amazing rap ability I think hes just missing what makes him so great. If he goes back to just rapping again like he did on “infinite” or SSLP . I would listen. And idk what his issue is with always picking the alchemist throwaway beats. Needs to be addressed.
I think Em should tap into his old shit and I hate to say it but his voice and how he rhymes is off to me now. I cannot put my finger on it but his tone just sounds like he has a satirical vibe all the time. His music used to provoke emotion and I hope this can come back to that.
Now that Myke is gone… the Eminem hate is gon be insufferable 😬 but if you listen to Eminem’s verse on “Lace It” (by Juice Wrld’s) it’s such a great and personal verse of his because he’s practically giving advice and is speaking like a grown wiser man to the audience about drug use. I think he is heading down that path (if not then that’s fine too since he’s always been talking about grown man stuff throughout his career). Even tho he’s been doing that for years I think him turning 50 made him wanna focus more on his Legacy. Regardless, stop mentioning Jay-Z for crying out loud
Em just needs to stick to hip hop...for as much of a fan/student of the game he claims to be his albums still sound overproduced, buil for the masses, made to apease too broad a fan base and generally just too reliant on rapping ability with not enough focus on jusg making good music. He should link up with one or two boom bap producers like alchemist, havoc, madlib, statick selectah or even maybe someone like a harry fraud if he wants something a little more melodic and wavy. Stay away from all the anthems and ballads, avoid the 80s rock samples, avoid singing his own hooks and avoid putting pop singers on his hooks. It sounds like a lot but its really not that complicated...look at what nas just did. Look at what Hov did on 4:44, Just rap at a normal pace and flow, get some solid consistent sounding production on 10-15 tracks and remember what made you hit in your prime be honest and vulnerable but not corny and bitter
I am not excited about this album, just curious because at one point Eminem was my favorite rapper. But I fully expect this album to be trash. His recent track record has been awful to medoicre at best. I hate the flow he has been using since 2013.
@@borngifted5398 if you were actually indifferent on the matter you wouldnt even be calling me a "stan" because objectively we're both telling the truth. But you're showing clear signs that you already have your mind set . All I did was directly retort your original comment using your blueprint.
@@Bleepbloop123you asked “who’s thinking about slim shady in 2024” and I told you it’s clearly alot of people based on his streaming numbers. Your small little neighbourhood or friend group is obviously the minority
When Eminem commits to a creative concept, he is still one of a kind. Music to be Murded By was a hot mess, but Darkness is a special record. Go back and listen to it because I think it really got overshadowed by the hot garbage surrounding it. I’ve been saying for YEARS that he should link up with Q-Tip to executive produce. If this thing is curated by somebody with more of an ear for how to update the golden age sound in both a mature, and refreshing way, Em could still drop something special. I’m praying he actually pulls from the producer list suggested in that comment y’all mentioned, but maybe I’m holding out too much hope.
@@robkirby6276 I remember. I’m not just talking about a verse though. The last two albums that Q-Tip executive produced (from my knowledge) were Thank You 4 Your Service, and the Danny Brown album, uknowwhatimsayin. Q-Tip has a serious talent for focusing & bringing out the best in recording artists while assembling a tasteful and cohesive project.
He’s celebrating his birthday. It’s shocking to see Feefo in damn near every video and live since Myke retired. Like how it take us losing Myke for Feefo to suddenly be back.
@@Southstartrill92 It’s not just yapping if it’s true. Either commit to the fuckin content or just go why even stick around if it seems like he ain’t even into it anymore
I really don’t understand how people are acting as if there’s some conspiracy against Em, when the man did it to himself. He didn’t change with the times, or find a lane that could work for him (like Nas is doing right now) So he comes off as cringey and behind the times. It really is that simple. Edit: if this is what it turns out to be, Em killing the Slim Shady persona, then yeah that could be cool.
they've reviewed every single Eminem album that's released since they've had the channel...even done revisits 20 years later of the earlier albums...wtf are you talking about
EM hasn’t dropped anything hot since 2013, so I’m not really looking forward to the album but I’ll give it a fair listen Classics: SSLP, MMLP, TES Good/Average: Relapse, MMLP2, Recovery Trash: Encore, Revival, Kamakazie, MTBMB
Breh, Kamikaze is not trash. Nor MTBMB. Kami - The Ringer... trash? Are you serious. His flows and humour throughout are great, great writing, nice and concise and nice concept. MTBMB, particularly Side A is a great album, probably his best since TES. Musical variance, yet still feels very cohesive, like all the songs belong... one of his best storytelling tracks ever written... at this stage, with 'Darkness', all kindsa shit. Crazy to call those trash. Classics - SSLP, MMLP, TES Great - Relapse, MTBMB Decent - MMLP2, Recovery, Kamikaze Trash - Encore, Revival
Man, the standards are so high for Eminem. To the point that these guys are already reviewing an album they haven’t heard yet. Can’t be corny, can’t be woke, can’t be rappity rap, can’t be too conceptual, can’t be too long, can’t be over 45 minutes, can’t have Skylar Grey, can’t sound like Wayne, can’t be himself, can’t be his persona, what is he doing next after this new album you know very little about. So basically you guys didn’t like the album already.
Ya’ll still talking about myke? Your comment doesn’t even make sense considering Myke don’t even mess with em like that at all, but he said his piece and was ready to move on and we all love him in the dehh community. Can ya’ll move on though?
HAve 2 theory one he gonna slowly "kill" slim shady and At the end of the Album he gonna Say the classic "I'm just playing Slim you know we Love you" or the whole Death of Slim is a Prank and Slim gonna be on Steroids on this album bc we heard Slim peaking out on MTBMB with the tracks " I Will and Discombobulated" I think as his "grown man" music he can do more tracks like that "Darkness" that shit was deep and very well put, also like the motivational ones he did on the MMLP2 era (Phenomenal / Beatiful Pain / Kings Never Die) i Like what He did on MTBMB Side A so I'm excited for this one!!
I can understand almost all criticism around Em's projects in the last decade, but the thing abou he not having "content" or not being "mature" is honestly such a superficial take.
My problem with his new stuff isn’t what he says but how he says it….there’s too many corny punchlines & he sacrifices the bounce of his flow for a complex rhyme scheme it makes his flow sound very choppy it’s not appealing to me not a fan of rappity rap lyrical miracle angle of his music i would appreciate more if he focused on how it sounds as much as how technical the rapping is
@@giovannidejoie8618 listen to recovery his flows aren’t really choppy on there, I agree he had a period when he was too focused on like tryna be a technical wizard even on some pop corny ass beats but post kamikaze he’s been getting smoother again imo
@@romaretaylor9953 recovery the rapping was good but I didn’t like the corny pop-rap beats….same issue I had with mmlp2 the rapping was great…not as good as his first 3 albums but still very good but I didn’t like the corny rock-rap beats…..to me his production has been weak since recovery…..relapse was the last album with great production by Dr Dre…people didn’t like it because of the accents & the weird serial killer alter ego but the accents didn’t bother me since he did that on encore as well…sure the lyrics were kinda silly on relapse but it fit the whole aesthetic so it worked for me
Em can’t have a 4:44 type album at this stage because every album has had personal songs and moments. His songs have always been either Slim Shady shit or personal. U can tell they never truly listened to his albums. Damn near every song on The Marshall Mathers LP was personal.
4:00 I swear this dude always makes me stop watching your videos... Like @Therockbestwrestler said, hating on an album before it is released is fucking wack.
A murder case type of album would be dope af. If Em executes this he’ll join Nas as the only other ‘old school’ rapper to assert himself in this decade
I wonder if Marshall is scared to work with the great producers of underground hip hop? If he has been with "yes men" for so long, he may not want to face the quality underground producers because he knows they wont be impressed if he cant bring the quality to match and they will be honest about it. He'll have to face the fall off of his career if he cant make a track with Alchemist sound good.
With a well established, celebrity rapper it’s considered a money/promotion opportunity. Nothing more, nothing less. It’s not like they’re going to say, “nah em, can’t do this. I ain’t feelin it.”lol
@@malod Not exactly my point but that's a fair one. My point wasn't about the producers working with Em and why they do, but why Em wont work with talented, underground producers like The Alchemist and alike on a full album. Marshall is set for a king's disease style return to hip hop, something mature and purely for the art. But I wonder if he knows he is too far gone to make something that is truly artistic and not just for commercial appeal?
@@lvngwndw9244 well yeah he has shown that he can get insecure a bit. As far as far gone, just say that to guys like Big Daddy Kane and those guys. A true hip hop artist never dies, but we’ll see. It would have to be him not caring anymore to drop off.
@@lvngwndw9244not really sure where this comment is coming from. Eminem has been on plenty of features with producers he doesn’t usually work with. & he almost never ruins his feature, except maybe the Griselda track. 2) it has never been hinted that he has an issue with having a normal conversation with producers about what sound he should rap over. That was pulled out of thin air
@@lvngwndw9244”kings disease” nas is not the template for how to age gracefully in hiphop. His music has always been somewhat moody pro-black, so u almost expect this transition. Eminem should be compared to someone like Brother Lynch Hung, the father of horrorcore rap, who is still making ACCLAIMED horror rap albums, & he’s also an Old Head, too, staying tru to his lane. One shouldn’t expect South Park to suddenly become a Drama suddenly overnight. Why expect that of Em? this is all untred territory for every hiphop artist growing old. Who are we to say what the “tone” should be?
“I haven’t been this excited for an album since Jack Harlow!!!”
-Ken (2024)
I wish Em just sticks with surprise drops cause people's expectations for this album is already through the roof (from what I've seen) and it's hard to please everyone but he must be really proud of this project so time will tell.
That’s what’s really interesting here, Eminem really seems to be very confident about this for there to be a rollout for it since revival 👀 I’m very excited
I think that Em could totally do a 4:44 after that. Also, Nas proved that you can talk about a lot of things and experiences that are exclusive for older people. Most of his demographic are middle age and older so they are going to relate.
"Eminem's gone woke" fuck Ken is getting old
personally i still fuck with Eminem so im excited for it
Hey man, big ups to you tho
@@ZEHAHAHA9697 I think most people do to be honest its just a few podcasts that don’t
Either way people will hate on it, from the people saying "i wanted old eminem," to the people saying, "eminem is 55 and still rapping about ___."
At this point my advice to Eminem is to find a theme, stick to it and ultimately do what truly makes him happy, not trying to appeal to the expectations of every type of listener, (thats one thing that ruined revival, wasn't focused sonically and content wise, i.e. a mix of songs being poltical, personal, fictional or comical, because he thought that he made something that every type of fan will enjoy,) and the real fans like me will appreciate it.
100%
Eminem at his best imo was always talking to you in a straightforward manner. The lyrics for Sing for the Moment, Toy Soldiers, Lose Yourself and Till I Collapse didn't have its message hidden behind word soup and a choppy flow that sounds like its trying to tetris its way into the beat.
"These ideas are nightmares to white parents whose worst fear is a child with dyed hair and likes earrings."
He's talking directly to you without any hidden meaning or a message that needs 50 punchlines and metaphors to deliver. That verse still has a complex rhyme pattern and deep lyricism but it doesnt compromise its song appeal for unecessary technical complexity.
Agreed
Those songs need inspiration
Most don't know artists are like energy manipulators
He turned his life struggle into heat
Turned the walk into fame into fire
What he gonna turn into heat now?
Idk if eminem gonna make much more heat heat
I'm still check it tho and tbh feel he learnt from his last but idk if this gonna work hope I'm wrong af and he kill it
@tofuteh2348 great way to put it! This is why The Eminem Show will forever be my favorite album of his
Eminem & J Cole Collab on this Album is a MUST!!!
Needed this video to get away from the beef stuff 😂😂
Don’t hate on shit before you hear. That’s wack shit
I hope we get that Devil voice looped in, like the start of Slim Shady EP, or on “My Darling”.
This is why Eminem doesn't release sneak peaks anymore. He doesn't like people ripping it apart before they even heard it...
That's being childish... A giant like him being this sensitive is wild
It's his fault thou.. His best selection is weak yet there's so many producers that would be happy to work with him
1:18 Myke C Town is back??? Lol
Oh damn that’s my fault🤣 Was up late keeping up with all the Twitter fiasco between Dot and Drake
How y'all hating before we even get a single 😂
As soon as Mike leaves hip hop gets exciting again. Rap beef, new Eminem album, and Mach-Hommy just dropped a single with 03 Greedo
That single good?
@@TheMackoftheyear very good ! Sticky hook, nice flow from Mach and bouncy production
Had to come back to this video after listening to the album! My predictions on their review!
-Feefo and Rod fuck with the album
-Beezy likes most of the beats, believing it's Eminem's best production since Relapse
-Ken is still indifferent towards the album, but respects it enough because of the production and features
-They all hate the Skylar Grey track the most for obvious reasons
-Fuel is the consensus favorite track because of JID and the production
-Overall, not the best Eminem album, but his very best album to them since Relapse
This is exactly what's gonna happen. These guys are also out of their prime when it comes to reviewing albums.
@@marcosserafim7187 I wish/hope Myke makes a special guest appearance in the review in some capacity. He was probably the biggest Eminem fan when he was still apart of the group, and this album would seem like his cup of tea since it gives off Relapse vibes (Evil probably would be his favorite track)
I’m picturing songs like Beautiful, Sing For The Moment, Like Toy Soldiers, Not Afraid, etc.
Born in ‘96 so Em is my goat…born and raised in Southern Cali…Of course I grew up on all the classics…DMX, Nas, Das EFX, Cypress Hill, OutKast, Dre, Snoop, Cube…I can’t wait for this album….Em targeting Summer ‘24🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I don’t really know what direction he could go in. Staying relevant in today’s climate is tough at his age. Obviously the lyricism is going to be there.
let's be honest, at this point it's more about what we DON'T want from Em as opposed to what we do want.
As a former huge Em fan… I haven’t even wanted an Em album since MMLP2 hahaha I probably won’t even listen to this new shit more than an initial listen lol
@@aaronhooper3328you lame then lol
I hate that yall act like 4:44 was the first “grown man” rap album as if Nas didn’t do just that in 2011 with life is good
I think they meant for jay-z
Well the point was he made it main stream which take it how you want it.
Daughters is phenomenal on that album.
Spike real
I might be wrong but wasn’t a huge problem people had with Em post-relapse, was that he started losing that Slim Shady type persona and moved to become closer to what’s popular in the mainstream? Outside of a handful of songs, hasn’t he already kinda killed the alter ego? So idk how much a “killing of slim shady” album after trying to kill it since 2010 or whatever is the correct move imo
well he never made an official announcement of it character wise, he's just been trying to avoid the persona but brings it back every now and then (like he did on Kamikaze)
Pretty sure the concept of this album is more of a message to his fans, like "please stop telling me to be Slim. I'm older, i don't need to be against "the system", i'm chill"
Which now let's him focus on Marshall/Eminem more
Nah it’s his flow and delivery that changed. He traded in that slick fluid delivery pause for that staccato rushed double time flow. Also started relying too much on Word play and punchlines instead of imagery and storytelling which is his superpower.
Regardless, im very excited for this album and where Eminem will take it. I like that it has a theme. And if it’s a goodbye to his persona, then so be it. He’s gonna be 55 soon. I just hope to hear great production, some cool features, and great lyrics from Slim.
Album of the year so far for me
The majority of Em’s songs weren’t produced by Dre. It was the Bass Brothers and Luis Resto
exactly, Eminem himself produced more songs on his albums than Dre. But they can't see that because of skin color.
Relapse is the exception to that
Em is like the Tom Brady & MJ of Hip Hop so I've learned to "NEVER" doubt him!!
🔥🎙️🐐💯
I think Em should zone in with 1 producer for the whole album, preferably The Alchemist because that is the most realistic option, an Al is dope. (I wrote this comment before watching the video)
Hopefully he does something dope similar to Kendrick’s “Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers” I predict a double album, side one Slim Shady, side two Eminem.
That would be dope 🤔
If he don't bring back the Bass Brothers and D12 on the features it ain't Slim Shady
I'm very tentatively excited for the project. But tbh once I saw he was doing a Beyonce like roll out I immediately lowered my expectations.
What do you mean by Beyonce type roll out?
@@OmoruyiOmofonmwan high budget production roll out. Not a single or a teaser. Gives a full on popstar vibe imo
@michaellacey7730 Ahh. I think he started doing that after Revival. Remember, Revival had like a whole rollout with the leading single track, which ironically featured Beyonce. That track sucked, and then people saw the track list and noticed all the pop star features and talked shit about that too. Then the album came out, and it was absolutely garbage, so after that he has been doing surprise drops. He is probably too scared to do a full complete roll-out again. Haha
@@OmoruyiOmofonmwan yup you're right. I did forget that though. ironicly Walk on water was the only song I liked on that album 😅 I'm cool with a more somber, introspective, socially conscious Em, but Revival wasn't the way to do that.
@@michaellacey7730they said he never does a roll out.. What's wrong
If Eminim raps like he is with Royce in Bad Meets Evil, or Caterpillar, hell even if he has lyrical thoughts when he was just talking on Royce Allegory album.
They say he corny but these new rappers are saying even less and less topic wise. He made Not Alike for a reason
He basically remaking relapse it’s kinda the same concept that was a good album people just don’t like the accents
Thank you
The album isn’t even out yet
Honestly if it is that, I'd argue that is probably one of the best angles em could go for and be the most successful at doing so. Most people these days have finally come around to agreeing that Relapse was a good album it's just the accents annoy people or get on the nerves after some time etc etc.
And whenever we've gotten something Relapse esq (notably when we got Discombobulated from MTMB Side B) people ate it up and many myself included saying it was one of his best tracks in a while
@@sparktaylor8489 I been wanting relapse 2 for a minute so if it’s similar to that album I’m probably gonna like it
The concept of the tweet sounds cool but I'm worried it won't go this direction especially with that feature list floating around. I will go in there with the lowest expectations but would be happy to be proofed wrong.
Also props to Spike he has been a great addition the past few videos he has been on
I think that feature list was confirmed fake recently
Eminem about to run the rap game again 💯🔥💪
Shit hot trash
I feel that this album needs to be a return back to the Eminem of old. The album feels as though it has a solid concept, and much like Relapse or Kendricks GKMC album, I'd like to see each song tell a story and be connected to each other. I really hope its not like MTBMB where it seems to have a horrorcore concept but really dosnt. The only thing that gets me excited for this is the mention of Slim Shady.
Yeah and I'd like to see Em REALLY do that for once. He's never truly done it even with Relapse. At best he themes an album. But he's never connected the whole thing as a story, which is madness bc he's one of the best storytellers in rap history. But yeah it does feel like he's actually maybe going to do that this time. I hope so.
I am excited for eminem album becuase of the producers and also Nas and Dj Premiers album. These 2 album have the potential to be best albums of 2020s. I think that if eminem has good features in the album, it could be classic, and the features should be just rappers, no r&b and pop singer. just Hip Hop and maybe rap rock features like Zack De La Rocha or Mike Shinoda would be awesome. Eminem and Pusha T or Kendrick would be awesome features.
I’m always here for a new em album but I’m not expecting greatness. I hope I’m wrong.
I need a full Alchemist WestsideGunn album Pray For Detroit Just want Grimmy Em
these Eminem fans are mad butthurt about an honest and casual discussion between hiphopheads. As an Eminem fan, I'm yet again embarassed
Why are you embarrassed? As a EM fan you should know why the back him so hard, especially when he gets criticized for the wrong reason alot of the time. people have a right to feel a certain way about things that's life.
Basically, expect these guys to hate it no matter what.
lol them talking about... 'we don't know if he can do mature man rap'... wtf they talking about. He's been doing plenty of it his whole career. And recently. How tf is Arose not... it's one of the most somber, emotionally mature fucking things I've ever heard in rap. They're acting like all he does is rap silly shit or like slim shady or technical scheminical. How is Darkness not mature, how is Never Love Again, how is Zeus; Castle... and always... fuckin', Mockingbird, he's been doing this forever. Going Through Changes.
I know the Stans are hurt by this conversation but as a Em fan I’m excited by this release. My hope is that Em will make the first great Em album in 20 years. Hopefully he won’t do that stupid rapping fast, and actually have some great production and let the producers come up with great hooks.
1:17 damn yall mfs done made me sad 😂 no need for that graphic anymore ☹️
Yall are setting yallselves up for disappointment
Exactly. Dude don’t have it in him anymore. Eminem hasn’t made really good music in a crazy long ass time. His suburban/mobile home park fans will glaze regardless though lol
@chiarosuburekeni9325 like seriously his last few albums have basically been promoted as "concept" albums and then when you heart that shit it's like...where?
Why are they already complaining and asking what comes next? This album isnt even out yet
Another ❗ Kenspiracy ❗ Eminem is going woke 😂😂
The way he said it was hilarious too, Ken man 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
my god Ken is hilarious!
Hot take
This album could basically just be Relapse 2 without the accents and I think it would be the easiest angle em could go for that would be successful.
There is other angles especially in the conceptual side that can definitely work and be even more successful and would be better but I doubt we'd get that.
At this point it's generally agreed by most that Relapse was not a bad album people just didn't like the accents and they got tired etc etc
However beyond that it's a good album and the times we got something Relapse esq people ate that shit up
(Notably Discombobulated from MTMB Side B, many people including you guys ate that up and wanted more) And I think if he finds that groove and sticks to it, we'll get a nice album
Damn I thought yall was going to review Marciology
1:18 I’m pretty sure that’s rod and not Myke
I think these people are jealous of Eminem’s lyrical agility ability cause he’s so talented with his pen game
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@@Newportnews98 how is it cap
Sure that’s it 😂
@@Yo-Ah-Kim hater gonna skate
Top 4 Eminem album. After his 3 classics (SSLP, MMLP and Eminem Show), this is #4.
Eminem waited to long to turn the corner. He ate off of the corny element for 25 years. He has skills, but he never found his lane sonically or content wise. Compared to Nas and his run the last couple of years, Eminem has a lot of catching up to do.
Nas & Premier > T.D.O.S.S
I think I’m just over Eminem albums. I think if he stops making these commercial ass rap albums he can appeal to the spitters again. Don’t get me wrong he still has amazing rap ability I think hes just missing what makes him so great. If he goes back to just rapping again like he did on “infinite” or SSLP . I would listen. And idk what his issue is with always picking the alchemist throwaway beats. Needs to be addressed.
I think Em should tap into his old shit and I hate to say it but his voice and how he rhymes is off to me now. I cannot put my finger on it but his tone just sounds like he has a satirical vibe all the time. His music used to provoke emotion and I hope this can come back to that.
So he merged with slim on evil twin, and now he's killing him? aight then.
this ain’t marvel comics
I lost all hope after i saw that lineup
I mean hey if theres a couple good tracks that'll be something
Now that Myke is gone… the Eminem hate is gon be insufferable 😬 but if you listen to Eminem’s verse on “Lace It” (by Juice Wrld’s) it’s such a great and personal verse of his because he’s practically giving advice and is speaking like a grown wiser man to the audience about drug use. I think he is heading down that path (if not then that’s fine too since he’s always been talking about grown man stuff throughout his career). Even tho he’s been doing that for years I think him turning 50 made him wanna focus more on his Legacy. Regardless, stop mentioning Jay-Z for crying out loud
Right direction for Em.
Why so much hateful vibes from dehh this past few years
Which hateful vibes their criticism seems pretty productive
@@johnx9399 na ken be hating on everyone. It's like he don't want to be doing this
Didn't Eminem already kill Slim Shady at the end of Encore?
yep. BUUUUTT if you listen to the bonus track like "My Darling", then you'd understand. Its pretty damned good
You all like 2 chains, but you dont like Em?
2 chainz has been better then em this last few years
Lmao 2 Chainz music is so much better than Eminem’s 😂
How can you say that jay z 444 was a young person album and and how can he be trying to make it fit in but be different, that don’t even make sense
slim shadys been dead to me for nearly 15 years and then em announces a album called "btw, im dying if u even care"
Tell me one thing lotto me icefly and poppa doc wanna make peace or war hmu wigga right
Em just needs to stick to hip hop...for as much of a fan/student of the game he claims to be his albums still sound overproduced, buil for the masses, made to apease too broad a fan base and generally just too reliant on rapping ability with not enough focus on jusg making good music. He should link up with one or two boom bap producers like alchemist, havoc, madlib, statick selectah or even maybe someone like a harry fraud if he wants something a little more melodic and wavy. Stay away from all the anthems and ballads, avoid the 80s rock samples, avoid singing his own hooks and avoid putting pop singers on his hooks. It sounds like a lot but its really not that complicated...look at what nas just did. Look at what Hov did on 4:44, Just rap at a normal pace and flow, get some solid consistent sounding production on 10-15 tracks and remember what made you hit in your prime be honest and vulnerable but not corny and bitter
I just want him to get politically incorrect and say dunb shiet in a creative way again that isnt tii lyrically comolex
I am not excited about this album, just curious because at one point Eminem was my favorite rapper. But I fully expect this album to be trash. His recent track record has been awful to medoicre at best. I hate the flow he has been using since 2013.
He could be out of rap for 20yrs and he still the best rapper alive. Y'all just can't make music like him. Look at all the cornball "rappers" now?? 🤡🤡
Just say you're an ldiot that only listens to the radio. Rap is better than ever rn. Period.
Stan sighted
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No matter how 🗑 the Album might be, i can see all the Delusional Em Stans doing Fake Over Hype Reaction Vids for views !!! 🤣🗑🚮
No matter how 🔥the album might be, I can see delusional haters discrediting it, even having not listened to it, for traction !!!🤣🔥📚
@@edwin99901 Delusional Stan Alert !!! 🎯
@@borngifted5398 says the one using trash emojis before the album even released, proving what I said.
@@edwin99901You Delusional Em Stans Really need Serious Help dude !!! SMH 😆
@@borngifted5398 if you were actually indifferent on the matter you wouldnt even be calling me a "stan" because objectively we're both telling the truth. But you're showing clear signs that you already have your mind set . All I did was directly retort your original comment using your blueprint.
Em is the GOAT
Who tf even thinkin bout slim shady in 2024??🤦🏽♂️
Didn’t his last album sell close to 300k first week?
@@CarlClinto fuck numbers..Ain’t heard one mf out talk bout em in yearss, homie could n forever go in but idk Wtf his last albums been😤
@@Bleepbloop123you’re obviously in the minority then because he’s very clearly still relevant if he’s doing those numbers
@@CarlClinto jus said fuck numbers. I’m goin by what I see n hear in the everyday.
@@Bleepbloop123you asked “who’s thinking about slim shady in 2024” and I told you it’s clearly alot of people based on his streaming numbers. Your small little neighbourhood or friend group is obviously the minority
When Eminem commits to a creative concept, he is still one of a kind. Music to be Murded By was a hot mess, but Darkness is a special record. Go back and listen to it because I think it really got overshadowed by the hot garbage surrounding it.
I’ve been saying for YEARS that he should link up with Q-Tip to executive produce. If this thing is curated by somebody with more of an ear for how to update the golden age sound in both a mature, and refreshing way, Em could still drop something special. I’m praying he actually pulls from the producer list suggested in that comment y’all mentioned, but maybe I’m holding out too much hope.
He literally had Q-Tip (and Black Thought on the same track) on his last album.
@@robkirby6276 I remember.
I’m not just talking about a verse though. The last two albums that Q-Tip executive produced (from my knowledge) were Thank You 4 Your Service, and the Danny Brown album, uknowwhatimsayin. Q-Tip has a serious talent for focusing & bringing out the best in recording artists while assembling a tasteful and cohesive project.
Beezy should probably just not be in DEHH anymore if he’s just gonna be missing for 80% of the content y’all upload
What, stop yapping people have lives and families. Feefo ain’t in half the videos at the moment but they still love it. This ain’t 2014 anymore fam.
He’s celebrating his birthday. It’s shocking to see Feefo in damn near every video and live since Myke retired. Like how it take us losing Myke for Feefo to suddenly be back.
@@Southstartrill92 It’s not just yapping if it’s true. Either commit to the fuckin content or just go why even stick around if it seems like he ain’t even into it anymore
@@KSxGUAPO yeah you must be new here. Everyone here has missed time 1 and 2 B has always had this personality he’s never changed.
I really don’t understand how people are acting as if there’s some conspiracy against Em, when the man did it to himself. He didn’t change with the times, or find a lane that could work for him (like Nas is doing right now)
So he comes off as cringey and behind the times. It really is that simple.
Edit: if this is what it turns out to be, Em killing the Slim Shady persona, then yeah that could be cool.
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Did yall listen to MTBMB or Kamikaze? Probably not.
they've reviewed every single Eminem album that's released since they've had the channel...even done revisits 20 years later of the earlier albums...wtf are you talking about
@@gourmetghost idk who these fuckin dudes are, they dont sound like theyve listened to shit. Saying Eminem is never saying anything of substance.
EM hasn’t dropped anything hot since 2013, so I’m not really looking forward to the album but I’ll give it a fair listen
Classics: SSLP, MMLP, TES
Good/Average: Relapse, MMLP2, Recovery
Trash: Encore, Revival, Kamakazie, MTBMB
Breh, Kamikaze is not trash. Nor MTBMB.
Kami - The Ringer... trash? Are you serious. His flows and humour throughout are great, great writing, nice and concise and nice concept.
MTBMB, particularly Side A is a great album, probably his best since TES. Musical variance, yet still feels very cohesive, like all the songs belong... one of his best storytelling tracks ever written... at this stage, with 'Darkness', all kindsa shit. Crazy to call those trash.
Classics - SSLP, MMLP, TES
Great - Relapse, MTBMB
Decent - MMLP2, Recovery, Kamikaze
Trash - Encore, Revival
@@chaoticprogress it’s just my opinion, I didn’t like it at all
@@chaoticprogressdamn, let the man have his opinion. I agree with him. Stan’s are something else..
I will never subscribe
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But here u are commenting and watching that’s no different then subscribing clown
I don't want to listen this stuff
Eminem should of retired in 09
have
No
Damn, didn’t like bad meets evil huh
I agree.
Ken stop being a boomer please. “Em gone woke” lololol
Man, the standards are so high for Eminem. To the point that these guys are already reviewing an album they haven’t heard yet. Can’t be corny, can’t be woke, can’t be rappity rap, can’t be too conceptual, can’t be too long, can’t be over 45 minutes, can’t have Skylar Grey, can’t sound like Wayne, can’t be himself, can’t be his persona, what is he doing next after this new album you know very little about. So basically you guys didn’t like the album already.
Or they are saying what everyone else has been saying about Eminem in the last 15 years that ppl dislike about his music
Bruh we just want em to make better music that’s all, and pick better beats to rap over. Most of his stuff has sounded horrible the last few albums
The standard are high….fam the expectations are low because he’s dropped trash after trash
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@@kellweathersNah
This is ain’t gonna work without Mike, just gonna be Ken hating and no voice of reason
Yeah. Mike was the main Em fan and balanced the conversations.
Myke didn’t like new Eminem albums neither so won’t be that much of help
Ya’ll still talking about myke? Your comment doesn’t even make sense considering Myke don’t even mess with em like that at all, but he said his piece and was ready to move on and we all love him in the dehh community. Can ya’ll move on though?
We're gonna have to get used the fact that without Myke it'll just be an Echo Chamber and yes men
Eminem has definitely made a lot of grown music rapping from his perspective about personal experiences, etc. he’s more than capable of it.
why is anyone taking Ken saying “Eminem went woke” seriously 😂😂. Kinge just play all day
That twitter account probably Em's alt account and he was just testing the waters with his concept album 😅
Naw Ik the account she definitely isn’t a em fan personally
Need Myke back
We desperately need Myke back
HAve 2 theory one he gonna slowly "kill" slim shady and At the end of the Album he gonna Say the classic "I'm just playing Slim you know we Love you" or the whole Death of Slim is a Prank and Slim gonna be on Steroids on this album bc we heard Slim peaking out on MTBMB with the tracks " I Will and Discombobulated"
I think as his "grown man" music he can do more tracks like that "Darkness" that shit was deep and very well put, also like the motivational ones he did on the MMLP2 era (Phenomenal / Beatiful Pain / Kings Never Die)
i Like what He did on MTBMB Side A so I'm excited for this one!!
I can understand almost all criticism around Em's projects in the last decade, but the thing abou he not having "content" or not being "mature" is honestly such a superficial take.
My problem with his new stuff isn’t what he says but how he says it….there’s too many corny punchlines & he sacrifices the bounce of his flow for a complex rhyme scheme it makes his flow sound very choppy it’s not appealing to me not a fan of rappity rap lyrical miracle angle of his music i would appreciate more if he focused on how it sounds as much as how technical the rapping is
@@giovannidejoie8618 I can totally agree with you on that. He has some nice concepts but it's failing to deliver it properly
@@giovannidejoie8618 listen to recovery his flows aren’t really choppy on there, I agree he had a period when he was too focused on like tryna be a technical wizard even on some pop corny ass beats but post kamikaze he’s been getting smoother again imo
@@romaretaylor9953 recovery the rapping was good but I didn’t like the corny pop-rap beats….same issue I had with mmlp2 the rapping was great…not as good as his first 3 albums but still very good but I didn’t like the corny rock-rap beats…..to me his production has been weak since recovery…..relapse was the last album with great production by Dr Dre…people didn’t like it because of the accents & the weird serial killer alter ego but the accents didn’t bother me since he did that on encore as well…sure the lyrics were kinda silly on relapse but it fit the whole aesthetic so it worked for me
tbh, Eminem can make an album with songs like DARKNESS... political and personal as well.
You underestimate how crazy that song is then idk who else could write that
He did it on the Eminem show as well
Em can’t have a 4:44 type album at this stage because every album has had personal songs and moments. His songs have always been either Slim Shady shit or personal.
U can tell they never truly listened to his albums.
Damn near every song on The Marshall Mathers LP was personal.
Hell like half of relapse was as well
@@cw2962what? No it wasnt
4:00 I swear this dude always makes me stop watching your videos... Like @Therockbestwrestler said, hating on an album before it is released is fucking wack.
Idk if talking about his issues is gonna change anything. Em's done that in the past and people have clowned it for his approach
A murder case type of album would be dope af. If Em executes this he’ll join Nas as the only other ‘old school’ rapper to assert himself in this decade
4:05 aight grandpa let’s get you back to bed
I wonder if Marshall is scared to work with the great producers of underground hip hop? If he has been with "yes men" for so long, he may not want to face the quality underground producers because he knows they wont be impressed if he cant bring the quality to match and they will be honest about it. He'll have to face the fall off of his career if he cant make a track with Alchemist sound good.
With a well established, celebrity rapper it’s considered a money/promotion opportunity. Nothing more, nothing less. It’s not like they’re going to say, “nah em, can’t do this. I ain’t feelin it.”lol
@@malod Not exactly my point but that's a fair one. My point wasn't about the producers working with Em and why they do, but why Em wont work with talented, underground producers like The Alchemist and alike on a full album. Marshall is set for a king's disease style return to hip hop, something mature and purely for the art. But I wonder if he knows he is too far gone to make something that is truly artistic and not just for commercial appeal?
@@lvngwndw9244 well yeah he has shown that he can get insecure a bit.
As far as far gone, just say that to guys like Big Daddy Kane and those guys. A true hip hop artist never dies, but we’ll see. It would have to be him not caring anymore to drop off.
@@lvngwndw9244not really sure where this comment is coming from. Eminem has been on plenty of features with producers he doesn’t usually work with. & he almost never ruins his feature, except maybe the Griselda track. 2) it has never been hinted that he has an issue with having a normal conversation with producers about what sound he should rap over. That was pulled out of thin air
@@lvngwndw9244”kings disease” nas is not the template for how to age gracefully in hiphop. His music has always been somewhat moody pro-black, so u almost expect this transition. Eminem should be compared to someone like Brother Lynch Hung, the father of horrorcore rap, who is still making ACCLAIMED horror rap albums, & he’s also an Old Head, too, staying tru to his lane. One shouldn’t expect South Park to suddenly become a Drama suddenly overnight. Why expect that of Em? this is all untred territory for every hiphop artist growing old. Who are we to say what the “tone” should be?