...and following the Bethesda Standard business model like Skyrim, Fallout... Please note: new is some mods don't block achievements... I bought some for Skyrim, the Alien story in Fallout! Hey, modders, get paid too! Not just donations. Better for all, as the business model causes creation of mods, extending the life of Starfield.
I personally bought all of Elianora’s mods for the simple gesture of supporting her work. It’s not a lot of money and it’s not a big deal. People just want to be served free stuff.
As a gamer of over 30 years I remember buying my game from the store in a box, which contained floppy disks and later on a CD-ROM. THERE WAS NO FREE STUFF TO DOWNLOAD - EVER. An update / additional content / mission disks etc was bought the same way. More content takes time to create and time is money. Don’t want the additional content then don’t buy it, simple.
I can relate to this comment. We didn't get updates, we didn't have expansion packs. What you bought was what you got. Until PC gaming became more prevalent and the gamers learned how to change the behaviors of the game. And that didn't even really take off until the early early 2000's.
Agree (I had pong lol), I am perfectly fine paying a reasonable and fair price to someone who worked and put in effort and their own time to build a product.
Yup, us so called "old guys" remember when atari and floppy disks for PC was all we got. The current generations have no idea how much better everything is now and always have to complain about something.
Its optional, and its a market. I dont understand why people complain about paid mods. People who like them will pay for them This comes from me, a person that made 177 free starfield mods. And i am also porting them to xbox, for free. Lol.
I think the problem is that Bethesda charged full price for a half finished game then expect us to pay extra for content that should of been in the base game. I don't mind paying for dlc's if they have a whole new questline but £7 for one trackers alliance mission is crazy to me.
Because it destroys games more and more! so stop your bs not everyone is stupid enough to hand out free money for nothing and that's exactly what it is ! It's folks like you who one day will destroy games where every damn thing will cost money on top of the 70 dollar entrance fee . Just because you don't care about the way you spend others are smarter ! This is the beginning to gotcha games for consoles and we don't want that sh..
I agree with you, they are not forcing you to buy anything in the creations club, it's personal choice, I'm just happy that mods are now available for xbox
Thank you sir!!! I keep thinking of microtransactions in GTA5 where people have spent hundreds if not thousands over the years for stuff like a yacht. Also people on consoles apparently do not realize how much work is put into the Creation Kit so players need only press a button and they have a mod. If they ever modded current gen games on PC they won't know how awesome the Creation Kit is and how much work it actually saves them. Tons of free mods coming out everyday. Updates coming out in a very consistent manner. Vultures quest is free for Shattered Space Edition which I never hear anyone talking about that. All they focus on is $7. People just keep complaining no matter how much Bethesda does. Bunch of children that are never happy, smh.
The economy is terrible around the world, and inflation is making it difficult for people to purchase groceries and pay bills. If fast food has become a luxury, gaming entertainment is beyond a luxury now. That being said, the game developers’ extra work should be paid for. It takes a lot of time, work, and effort to make these games, that we don’t understand. Those who want the extra content should be allowed to have it, and pay for it, if they want to. It shouldn’t be a problem.
Hating on Starfield is a real hobby for some ^^ Also people saying that modders have abandoned the game are just really dumb imo. The CK just released so we'll se how it goes
Bethesda has been doing this paid mod thing since Elder Scrolls Oblivion in 2006. If you didn’t think that this would happen with Starfield I have several very nice bridges for sale that you might be interested in.
The internet doesn't need a reason to hate on Starfield.... Any small issue it may get is immediately hated on ... I mean if the game is "dead" according to them, why do they care so much about what it does.... And people acting like Bethesda has never charged for some creations..... I have the premium edition so basically i didn't have to pay anything tor it
Corporate greed alongside the nonsense of charging for mods they didn't create (they take a huge percentage cut from the creation club fees) isn't a "small issue" it's pure corporate greed and you should be rightly annoyed by it.
@@MrArchilus "The world runs on greed. " No it does not! I didn't run into burning buildings to save people for money and neither does you fire department. I did not enter a hot Landing Zone (LZ) for money. When you fertilize immorality greed, it grows. that would make you part of the problem, not the solution.
@@B-26354NOBODY is "forcing" you to buy anything! YOU will not tell ME for what I pay and how I spend MY money! The game company is not socialist club - they make games to make as much money for their owners or stockholder as they can!
No they just secured the future of this game by adding official modding support and paid content if you dont like it just don’t support it but I know what I and all the other will we will support it because more companies should do modding especially on console so I’m making sure we support it
The sad thing about this, is these haters want to kill a game, that others like and enjoy. Who the "F" are they to ruin our fun, and enjoyment of this game. There was one youtuber that said they just need to let the game die. Like you said the strongest vote you have is in your wallet. The quest that they are so upset with has 2 ways to play it, so you can do TWO playthrough, and it will be a little different easy time. This quest was also voice acted. The last time I checked voice actors get paid for their work, just like the coders, artiset, and everyone who has to work on the mod. Like you said,, you don't spend time at work for free? This guy that wrote this article didn't do it for free did he? I don't think so! If you don't like the game that's fine, and it's fine to say that. But when you go on a rampage, a mission just not to say it but to kill a game that's nothing more then pure maliciousness. At my age I have seen this happen before, and it has killed games. You have the right to not like a game, and the right not to play it. You DO NOT have the right to kill a game just because you don't like it. Many of these haters; hate the game because they hyped it up, and made the game into something it was never intended to be in the first place. When it launched, and they were wrong they got pissed, and they don't have the balls to say they were wrong. Instead it's the game that was wrong! There is one youtuber I have follower for years, and even was a member of his channel for years. From day one I was watching his live streams as I played. He was always saying how much he was enjoying the game, and loving it. Then when the hate started, and really got on the roll he stopped playing, and then started to hate the game himself. Needless to say I am no longer a member. This is all about clicks in the end. "I Hate this game, they just need to let it die" gets more clicks then "Gee I really like this game". People just like bad news. It's funny how these youtubers get piss about companies making a profit as they worry about how many clicks they're getting. Kind of ironic isn't it? Clicks = Profit! I like your channel because you are honest about your thoughts. You do a really good job keeping your thought balanced. That's why I am going to become a member as well as a follower!
More like Bethesda sells you a mid game that is unfinished for 70$ and demands more money for the rest of the game and basic side content through the sale of mods that other people have made.
The update itself in terms of in-game content was more or less The Trackers Alliance; the initial full Bounty mission and the ongoing radiant bounties, Astra currency turn-in for legendaries. There was a little more in the update of course, and then Creation Kit and Creations, but content wise *included* that was it. As for Creations: Bethesda released 6, 3 were paid. As it stands today there are >500 free Creations (still just 3 free from Bethesda) and 17 paid (again still just 3 from Bethesda). Free:Paid Creations, the paid ones represent 3% (and shrinking) of the added 'value'. The paid Creations are a drop in the ocean, and will arguably be eclipsed easily, though it may not be immediate.
Exactly. With all the fake rage hate and other stuff I’d actually find it amusing if Bethesda just said we’re pulling the plug. To many cry babies. Pushed out shattered space and moved on. I would. Let some punks come to my place of business or home and see that would go down. And when I say pull the plug. I mean shut down all servers, support element and just act like Starfield never even happens as punishment. Yes I would too.
The fact that some player/creator can invent a story for me to play out as a bounty hunter is awesome. I have no idea how to mod, but I love you guys because you’re going to make me love this game again 😢
Killed? I thought according to these people it's been dead arrival? Why do they even care so much if the game is supposedly dead and no one cares about it?
Wow! Dean! How dare you! 😂😂😂😂 Spot on man! Totally agree and have some add so I brought my 55 gal drum of paint for the inconsequential screeches in the peanut gallery. First off the world over all has become packed with too many screechers that feel the world owes them. Ive got bad bad news for everyone! The world, Bethesda OWES YOU NOTHING! Creating content is work. I decide if I create something I feel has some small value. If I work, I expect compensation. There we have conflict. As a disabled veteran that lives barely above poverty and walks the razor edge of homelessness, money above all is important. Everyone acts like they’re still owed something above and beyond. Is the pricing bad, yes. However I got past the two Bethesda reps that actually came to my home, caught me unawares and pointed guns at my head and forced me to spend my credits, that were already inclusive to the content pack I purchased going in. It was horrible when they forced to pry out one of my long unused credit cards and drop a Benjamin on credits. I became even worse when the held steadfast and forced me to browse all the supercool stuff people had WORKED to Create spending time aside from their regular jobs to EARN some extra MONEY. How was I able to this as an impoverished content creator? I saved some MONEY for the future plan going in knowing paid content was coming down the pipe. My gameing history is this kiddies so do your homework. I started on a system called Oddyssy. First game system ever. Then Atari. Then whatever came after that, and the next and the next till here I am on series X console. At anytime no one ever forced me to purchase a console, a game, or any content. I was all done at my free will. If you think this content is expensive, delve into the flight sim world. See how expensive that is and on console there is no free content, planes, everything pay short of updates. No. Why? Because I’m a 55 1/2 year adult that not only has working knowledge of business. Once owned a Hal million dollar trucking company. I understand computers. My first computer was a commodore Vic20. My first PC was a 12Mhz Commodore with a 10MB hard disk and 640K memory. 😮 I have now well over 800 hours or so I Starfield and no plans to quit playing. Here’s where I’m really going to hurt some feelers. If YOU only play games, but have no knowledge of how to design and work in 3d cad modeling, manipulate high resolution texturing and apply it to a 3 dimensional wire model that still might need animation, complete it and get it injected into a game play tested and functional, you’re nothing but a gamer with a worthless opinion you have mistakenly thought was a fact because it steamed out your ears and escaped through your mouth. I don’t even pay attention to the gaming contro’s because I’m playing a single server sided one player role play game in a world designed as I see fit. PERIOD. No one forces me, or you to spend money and personally find it insulting the amount of people that feel with their outrageous expections of what should or shouldn’t be. GET JOBS IN INDUSTRY. PRODUCE VALUABLE CONTENT AT A FARE PRICE. People have also failed to realize that a lot of the content has notes stating in CLEAR PLAIN ENGILSH that it had been uploaded for THEIR GAMES and NOT TO UPLOAD! Whats a matter kiddies? Some or most can’t read? Great video Dean. I agree 1000% whole hearted with what you say here. I watch your content because you have super dynamic personality, sense of humor, clean cut and don’t feel the Murphy need to be an F bomber or rage hater/quitter when you meet defeat. Stay strong Bro! Non Illigitimi Carburundum! En Orbe Terrum Non Visi De Opresso Libre! Viva STARFIELD FOREVER!
Seems to me the trackers alliance creation is purely an example of what independent creators can create and profit from - not Bethesda trying to sneak some cash...
One thing I'd say is that it's a bit weirdly done. They should've either made the Vulture cheaper or actually make more Tracker's Alliance stuff and make the entire faction into a smaller DLC for like 15 dollars. It's a bit weird how it's like 80% free and 20% paid
The high priced mods were an unforced error. Everything else in the release was positive. And I do generally agree with them that it should be a direct purchase. The buy Bethesda coins thing is annoying and means you sometimes buy more than you want. But it is not an uncommon practice, so its not a Bethesda thing.
Thanks for speaking up! Ultimately, gaming is a business. If you think about it, this gives gamers a way to directly influence the direction of the game. As you say DeanPo, people will buy the mods they like and not the ones they do t and it motivates BGS with a steady stream of income if they hit the mark with future mods. It also opens up the game to what I am seeing as a Bo rant modding community around Starfield. It’s just the start, let’s see where this goes! Thanks DeanPo for taking a stance against negativity.
Screenrant/Gamerant have had issues with the quality and internal consistency of their opeds/etc for some years now. How can The Vulture simultaneously "[not] offer anything unique...a simple, quick fetch quest" _and_ be representative of "locking story content behind a paywall". Either it's insignificant, in which case don't buy it if you think it's overpriced (I do think it is), or it's significant so do buy it (or don't and accept that).
The only problem that I have is that I can't do a new game start since the May update . As soon as the hunter attacks the lodge everything goes downhill from there . He doesn't show up in half of the locations that he used to . There's 90% more NPCs running around getting in the way . And I can't even board my own ship without getting a forever load screen . The only way I can play the game is to use an old save where I've already gone through Unity . That whole part of the game has way too much going on at the same time to not expect it to cause some trouble . All sorts of effects firing off , NPCs that don't even exist running around all over the place getting in the way . And a frantic music score playing in the background the whole time . I'm a little surprised that I was ever able to get past that . Just too many NPCs on the screen usually causes trouble , add the music and the special effects .🤔
I know this may sound uhm crass? But Im using a mod right now that actually cuts down the number of NPC spawns and has pretty much eliminated stutters or clip issues and hasn’t detracted from my game. Hope it’s helps in some way.
What are you playing on? How old is the system? How many games and/or programs do you have saved and/or running? Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling the game? I've got so many questions. 😆 You're literally the only person I've seen in all the boards,chats and pages I follow,that has said that or has that problem. It has to be something on your end that's causing the issue.
The vulture offers 2 main on the screen, but I've also gone back a number of times in the basement and gotten more. But they should have more than just 3 or 4 at time at the terminal
I have to say seeing your video and reading the comments actually gives me hope for humanity as I see more people that grasp reality and don’t fall for the play a victim card. And to see many saying the very same things I’ve said as well just reenforces the fact that people are sick of the never ending stream of manufactured tears.
My only gripe is the pricing doesn't make sense. 7 bucks for 1 quest. VS. The main game has 57 main quest. Around 200 total. If you just look at the main story and faction quests, you are paying under $2 a quest. So you have to pay 3.5 times more for the new quest compared to what you paid for the initial game. If they add targets on the board included in this 7, then it won't be as bad.
That quest was too expensive for the time it took to finish. The free quest was longer and more enjoyable. That’s my take on that situation. The price needs to be commensurate to the quality of what’s being sold. Which, I hope, will be corrected in the future. Starfield does have some very nice aspects to it.
If someone wanted to they could do the free mission (which is pretty awesome for a free starter mission) then just go off looking for randos who have bounties and make a little extra money as you take care of other things. Basically just a new layer of every day play. But, the story and complexity is what you pay for. The Vulture looks pretty cool for affectively $7. It’s a damn deal people! I’m excited, can you tell I’m excited?
Some players feel disrespected since they bought the Deluxe Edition which nominally includes DLC for free, paid content direct from Bethesda seems like charging for DLC. Certainly the pricing makes it equivalent to DLC pricing if not more expensive. Even Mass Effect didn't charge so much for small DLC addons.
The free dlc is shattered space in the deluxe edition period. Not bounty hunter stuff, that’s bonus. I too advanced purchased premium edition as well as a constellation edition. Please show me in black and white where trackers alliance is even mentioned please or put your legs on and walk away while you can because I have all day to shut this feelers hurting bs down with life facts. Dismissed.
Have I been clickbaited?! And by an elephant no less?! Real take: It really depends on how many Trackers Alliance missions there are and how much it costs in totality. They could have released the entire thing for $30 as an expansion, with new items and stuff. The way they are doing it now just breaks it into smaller parts so they slowly release the content instead of all at once which is fine, and actually I think is cool. So in the end I'll hold judgement. If it turns into like 10 missions and it costs me $63 that's an entire game and too much.
It would be nice if they put a few (3-5) quests together that cast about $5 per quest. Especially if the group had a few that are linked in a larger story.
Only issue I had was, I started a new character and re downloaded the game after disabling all the nexus mods and content relocators that program uses to make the mods work so I could see if the "official" mods would be less disruptive to the game, (I experienced a lot of issues that more than likely were caused or exacerbated by running mods) so when the official creation kit was released I got the Vulture mission and a cool looking handgun, a Starborn armor skin and a skin to make a drumbeat black, I can use the weapon color mod, but if I apply either of the other two I get the "achievement's will be disabled" message! Oh, and BTW, nobody mentioned you get a new bounty board with both better rewards and unique completion requirements and those are just like all other faction job boards, so you are getting new faction content for free and you can generate a LOT of credits with these missions! but I definitely agree they should take a look at their price point, especially if it makes no difference if the mods you use are "official" or free!
The biggest issue with them comparing Nuka World to this add-on mission is that Nuka World was an expansion to the game that came in 2016. Bethesda didn’t officially release Creation Club until the following year, 2017. I definitely agree the price isn’t worth it BUT there’s nothing wrong with adding some paid/free add-ons to extend the life of a game. Modders take time and resources to bring their content to life and I think they should be compensated for it, whether they are Bethesda staff or average working folk. Like you said, inflation increases the costs of everything but I still feel like if people don’t spend the money to buy it, they may reduce the cost.
POST SCRIPT: If you are a content creator for STARFIELD and have or plan to get content into the game, paid or not. Hit me up on my place in space here on RUclips and when it drops I’ll definitely give it a look and inject it into my game to try and possibly keep.
Wait, wait, wait... New planets? Why the holy F would we need MORE planets?! The game already has 1000 planets with no content! A handful of tiny inhabited landing zones won't make a difference 😖
I love this game! 2,200 hours of gameplay already! One of my good friends is a modder and told me he received over 100k downloads in 4 days on his mods. Don’t believe the Steam haters reviews bombing this game. Mostly, these people are entitled kids that hate Bethesda and want everything for free !!
Some people drink alcohol and some people smoke, others buy fast food...most of them spend 5 to 15 bucks a day on that, but when it comes to paying 5 to 10 bucks "extra" on a game they really like (and btw it's a 1 time investment) then all of a sudden turn to the game creators like they are the devil, I just don't understand this.
Very little is free in this life, so why do people get so upset. As you rightly say, the choice is ours. I buy a pint in a pub, but don't expect the next one free !!!!
If you don't have money, don't buy paid mods, play the main game you paid for!!!!!!! I can’t understand people, are they really that poor? Why do you think that everything should be given to you for free?Those who complain about paid content, in real life, won’t even get up from their chairs for free, but at the same time they think that everyone owes them. Bethesda don't pay attention to the haters, you're doing everything right. We are waiting for ground transport
Best way to do trackers alliance should have been paid DLC for everything and just add free bounty updates as time goes on. That was the standard DLC format of the past and I enjoyed that. Or Season pass as you mentioned.
If the posts I've seen are any indication, I'm sure a lot of the people screaming about this were also very concerned about "ethics in gaming journalism" a few years ago too.
While I have problems with Bethesda and still feel disappointed with Starfield (outside of the ship building which I do enjoy), I'd buy 100 horse armours before giving ubisoft another dollar.
SF has never been better BUT vulture mod price (or ships habs mods price fx) is too high. Even compared to the price of Shatered Space DLC. So problem is not the game, or the mods content, or the" fact we'll have to pay for the hard work of people. The problem is the price-policy. I'll vote for Vulture content, because it's cool, when Bethesda *lower* the price. Regarding other creators content : ofcourse it's important to pay our support. Some mods are incredible. Force some bucks absolutely. But not 10$, not even 7$. Something like 4 or 5€ for a BIG mod is enough. PS : a way to gain some of this currency while playing should be put on the table. Not much, but at least a little. Then it will be fair.
So, new update brings “craftable” ammo, which needs uncraftable parts to make … huh? Why would I buy parts to make ammo when I can just buy ammo. This makes no sense. Also, the creation stuff is fine, but it’s missing one key feature, HIDE creations, let me hide creations I’m never going to use to make it easier to browse for ones I might use.
In real life, I make my own or reload so there we go. You can buy ammo, I’ll load my own. You stay in your lane of life and I’ll stay in mine. Thanks for the inconsequential opinion. Dismissed.
@@Slowride75interesting, and completely irrelevant, there are many reasons to make your own ammo in real life, but you fail to answer the question - in Starfield why would you buy a limited resource from vendors and then take the time, effort, and additional resources, to make your own ammo instead of just buying it, often from that same vendor? There is no functional difference in the ammo, you are not making higher power ammo, or high quality ammo with precisely ground black powder to get a specific result. If all the elements could be crafted it would make sense, mine / farm the resources and make your own ammo, but it’s like going to the store and buying the ingredients for a cake, then baking it, vs just buying exactly the same pre-baked cake, not even getting the benefit of it being home made. But if you have the time to waste taking the extra steps, just so you feel some sense of accomplishment, then feel free to make inconsequential replies.
The Creation Club is a framework. Yes, the Vulture was 10 bucks and while the Fallout 4 addon FROM BETHESDA was less per payable hour because they had inside access to code, the programmers already on board and working, the infrastructure, the ability to integrate heretofore unused/discarded ideas, etc. whereas an individual developer is operating on a different resouce/cost basis. The new framework allows individual developers the ability to cut their teeth on making mods and additions to the game and sell them. Will they need to charge 10$ for a few hundred hours of coding? I would think so. And I would expect some of them will plow the profit back into their work and make more. Some will expand and start companies. Maybe, (hopefully), some of them will move from that to later give us even DLC sized expansions one day. The Starfield universe is ripe for that kind of creative expression and opportunity and kudos to Bethesda for offering the platform for it.
I love Starfield, Creations club has added more features that are free and some paid for. Its great that diversity in a game is possible and I'm going to carry on playing.
If they sold a mod like the deluxe dynamic boost pack instead of the whole quest they might do better. Honestly I have seen new advanced items that I really would like. I bought the boost pack one and enjoy landing and not worrying about broken bones. If they could make a mod that would allow modification of a Beowulf to fire penetrator rounds or something like changing the reticle color from black to read. I could see paying for something you could use game wide if it's cheap enough.
Nice rant…you tell’em DeanPo lol…give ‘em the old what for/how come. I did a mission from the mission board down stairs…the sent me to Maheo the sister planet to Cheyenne. Most of the bad guys “Ecliptic” were very low lvl. I have a mission from the old mission board and it’s to a lvl 55 planet…go figure cause I thought the mission board would lvl with me I was delusional…taint so. I love this game ✌️
They can save this by marking UI mods and other mods (player homes etc...) as Achievement Friendly. As long as most of the mods break Achievements it's a pointless addition.
There should be clear guidelines for modders to avoid breaking achievements with their mods. The current rating system limits my Xbox experience to the Bethesda made mods only.
Very heavy wording for a serious gaming website. I may agree that this single mission doesn’t deserve $7 on its own, but that’s all. The same goes for a cup of latte that costs $5. A question to Lee D’Amato: Would he agree to get paid $100 to write an article for ScreenRant, and then write for them for free every week in the future?? Why not??? He already got paid $100 once!..
The issue for me with the creations is that they gave verified creator status to the creator of one of the unofficial starfield patches. This tells me that Bethesda is aware of all the bugs the modders have fixed and they are intentionally not fixing them in the base game. And if you use the unofficial patch to fix the bugs that Bethesda are aware of and choosing not to fix then you won't be able to get achievements. If Bethesda were serious about making Starfield their least buggy game they could just review the fixes in the unofficial patch and incorporate then into the base game for everyone.
The Trackers Alliance is a good idea, but it should be one price, not a continual cost. I used my free credits & doubt ile buy more, even though yes I understand a lot of time was put into the missions.
We're expecting so much new content in the future (which the game needs), that the Vulture mission is a drop in the bucket. But it is a fairly expensive drop. If that's how Bethesda is setting the tone for what's to come, I can see how people would be put off by that. It's too soon for review-bombing, though. I still think the game would be treated more fairly if it wasn't a Microsoft exclusive.
NGL I’m a day one player and currently still play. What’s bad to me is I paid for the deluxe edition and still haven’t gotten the expansions and they come out first with paid content. That bounty hunter dlc is trash plain and simple. I don’t care if they gave it to me for free. I know the expansion is coming but it will be over a year since launch that it comes. I hope it isn’t the only expansion because I paid good money for this game.
Starfield keeps getting better. We need more paid quests, keep them up Bethesda, do what the Car industry, the PC Industry, the... oh yes, all industries and markets do. Don't buy the mod if you don't want too, others might want to, preventing choice is wrong! Of course the haters want Bethesda to fail, just because Microsoft bought them.....Game Pass as Bob Igor stated the other month, by itself will overtake Sony as the industry standard, Disney's CEO sees it and is blatant about it. The greatest deal Gamers have ever had since the industry was born is Game Pass, his words, not mine. The heavy wallet that Game Pass provides beats the empty wallet Non-Game Pass leaves. Choice versus No-Choice, common sense always prevails in Consumption Demand. Great video DeanPro, good spot on that article, great talking point and keep the videos going, superb!
@DeanPo All this 'hate' over the 'pay' missions is absurd. Modders will make plenty of free missions, or really long ones for small fees. Modders deserve pay, too. I know it's considered a 'cop-out' to say "Modders will fix it", but BGS is NOT the only studio to use this 'polishing' tactic.
I think most people are fed up with micro transactions from other games over the years and to see Starfield turning to this will overall have a negative impact my opinion. I think that money they gain in micro transactions will be less than the money they lose from people turning away from the game.I could be wrong, but that’s my opinion in my decision of the game itself
Ive been playing since day one and even more since mods. This changes the game to how you want and im happy with that. I play more skyrim, fallout 4 and skyrim than any other game. Only game came close to the level of excitement to those games is witcher wild hunt.
With creations added to Xbox I've started a new character with all mods and have my original without I'm getting to 100% completion. So I would say my dedication to this game has doubled. The people complaining are just being whiny children imo crying because something they can't or won't do (development) isn't doing exactly what they want.
@deanpogaming a new mod in creation that might interest you for a deeper hardcore mode. It's called Starvival - Immersive Survival Addin; Scarcity. I haven't tried it but instantly thought of you when I saw it.
would this writer also make a big huff about games like skull and bones which cost money but also have cosmetics for micro transactions etc ? i just dont get why starfields the focus for them
Starfield would have been great If they had worked in a decent script, a great sound track, good voice actors, interesting quests, good space combat and launched in 2015. Adding in paid mods to fill this soulless garbage was the final nail in the coffin.
7 dollars for one quest is crazy. And I'm glad the actual people who PLAY THE GAME have voiced their discontent. Being complacent doesn't bring change. HOWEVER, my problem is the people who claim they don't like the game and don't play it but continuously come to Starfield channels and articles to dogpile on the game. I was watching a tutorial on ship building the other day, and the comments were full of people basically shitting on the game. The content creator posted a TUTORIAL, not an opinion or think piece. So if you don't like the game, why are you there????? I don't understand the need for them to spout their opinions about a game they claim they don't play. You're just trolling, you're not voicing discontent to make the game or experience better, you're just doing it because you either don't like the company, or you're pissed BG has put FO/ ES6 on the back burner so they can focus on Starfield. These are the "gamers" that piss me off. I'm not a confrontational person usually, but when I see those kind of comments in places they really shouldn't be, I will say something.
I will never play another ubisoft game again after seeing the way they exploited micro-transactions and went woke with the newest AC game. I don’t think it’s fair for people to lump Bethesda’s business model in with that same ilk because Bethesda is allowing content creators to be compensated for their own unique creations. It’s allowing talented people from our gaming community to earn a living. I have my own strong criticisms regarding many of Bethesda’s decisions (garbage Fallout TV show being one of them) but I don’t see this particular situation as something fans should be upset over. There are plenty of free mods if people don’t want to pay for this stuff or can’t afford it. YMMV
i swear the trackers vigilance quests comes with a lot of dialogue a new weapon etc lots of work clearly went into it i dont see and issue with paying a lil for some extra stuff if you want to if not, all your missing out on shouldnt be an issue for ya ?
Internet's a slavering beast these days. All you have to do is get its attention and you could lose fingers. Bethesda hasn't innovated anything here. They're huffing and puffing to keep up with EA who manages to get another couch and chair or cute outfit for the Sims out about every other day at 4.99 a pop. Anyone who visits their content page will get buried under a wall of DLC's, game packs, expansion packs, kits and now their own version of creation club as well. none of it works, bugs never get fixed, if a bug does get fixed a new pack comes out and breaks it again. But 9 out of 10 on Steam. Go figure. lol
I brought the Starfield hundred dollar edition and I did not regret any of my purchases because I already know about Bethesda I know how they are and I know that they are working on it and fixing the game and patching it up so let them do their thing let them cook I'm perfectly fine
I am not badmouthing the game anywhere. I have been a long time fan, having to be that fan in secret to avoid getting an ear full from friends about how terrible a game that they have never played is. I won’t be buying anything from the creation club though. I will play whatever else is available and mods from Nexus. Keep up the good work.
Content makers get more clicks from bashing and making mountains out of ant hills, it's like watching the news on TV the ones screaming about something usually get the most viewers. I didn't have to buy anything, and I had the free credits, and I didn't buy anything. If something doesn't look worth it, you don't have to buy it and the vulture isn't worth it. I got a few great free mods, and if I really like a mod I do try to support the modders.
At this point with the last two updates…it is now better than Skyrim. In the next few years as they continue to hone everything it definitely will far surpass what Skyrim is. There is plenty of free stuff on the Creation Club. Should Bethesda charge you for managing your load Order and everything that’s involved behind the scenes to ensure these modes run on Xbox? Yes! I mean you can get a PC and the software and manage all that stuff yourself but it’s not free. So stop complaining. I think the complainers have no idea what it takes to run mods on PC. It’s pretty awesome that Bethesda does this for you for what? Half the cost of a movie ticket (Bounty Hunter mission). It’s amazing just that Bethesda gives a space for content creators to do all this. Most game developers don’t.
This isnt a loot box pay to win content, its a optional content that doesnt affect the outcome or game play. If you dont like it dont pay for it wont make a difference. I have no issue with paying for someones hard work profit isnt a dirty word. Bethesda isnt ripping you off like other companies its saying we like to get paid, whether its way above market value means you as a consumer can vote with pocket book .
i dont care personally. I play on PC i can get better mods than creations offers. Though I still bought the vulture mod. Sure it was part of the free one k they gave. Though I like the rifle and i did the quest at 100. I also picked up the Special Agent Housing. My char usually starts in Neon as a cyber runner. That house made the RP complete. Nobody would be complaining if it was simply a weapon skin that made the hardtarget Look Like the new sniper. Either that or its broke envy. That i got a decent quest with the new weapons and clothing was cool too. Are they the strongest i have? No. The coolest looking? again No. Did i want to put a little change in the pockets for doing it? Yes. I support that which i enjoy.
Love this video, and I couldn't agree more. That article is full of so much bullshit, I suspect it was written in a cow pasture with the author sitting on a fresh cow patty. I can't begin to recall how many times I've seen exclusive missions locked behind pay walls in games; typically only if you order a pre-order version with a huge upmarket. Also, the whole "disrespectful to players who already paid a premium..." is a huge bunch of crap. Those of us who pre-ordered, or later bought the premium version, got 1,000 free credits in the creation club. So, The Vulture Mission is free, if we want it. As for bug complaints, you're not being realistic if you expect Bethesda to release anything to Xbox and think it's going to work on Day 1. The hyped graphics upgrade to Fallout 4 was released broken on day 1 to Xbox. You'll never convince me that Bethesda gives a damn about consoles, they're pc focused. Any idiot at Bethesda, could have playtested that FO4 patch on a Series X and realized it didn't work. Let the buyer beware. And lastly, just as you said, no one is forcing anyone to buy anything. You don't like the prices, don't pay it. But don't be a whiny b and outright lie about other aspects of a game and review bomb it.
Yeah $7 USD for 30 minutes of game time is pretty Gross. Especially when ya know the whole Trackers alliance “faction” was supposed to be a meaty part of the base game But they ran out of time & scrapped it but left us Ship Brigs & EM weapons that serve no purpose now because Bounty Hunting doesn’t really exist in the game it’s just Go shoot the dude with a blue dot above him who’s sitting in an Enemy base you’ve cleared out a thousand times. Yay 🎉
From where I have heard to so far, the author of the article doesn't mention that those who bought the upgraded edition got 1000 creation credits in order to get the trackers alliance quest. Not to mention all the other games out there that have paid dlc. And technically, there is no "free content" in a game that you have to pay to play because of that initial payment to buy the game in the first place. Just saying.
Let me correct your sorely mistaken idea. On initial purchase of big version it was only stated credits included for future content. NON SPECIFIC HOW TO SPEND OR USE. Don’t bend or twist because yes, I’m that guy.
Dude, let them keep hating because I’m just as entertained by the hate as I am by the game itself. 🤣 The irony is, that it only helps the game. Creation has been around for years and people have benefited from it and enhanced their gaming experience. Mods are the only reason people are still playing Fallout and Skyrim. And there's the real problem for these people…they don’t want Starfield to get the same treatment so they’ll complain as though Bethesda is inventing some new Wheel.
The whole paid mods thing just needs to die in general. If Bethesda wants to release new content, bundle it up with their DLC or release it as a free update. Bethesda is not hurting for money and them locking quests for a new faction in a free update behind a paywall is saying that they don't care about the integrity of their game, but how much money it can print. They sold us a mid game parading as this apex of exploration when the gameplay loops actively spit in the face of exploration and then demand you enjoy it for no other reason than "we worked REALLY hard on it guuuuuys." and now they're demanding your money to make the game better while teasing this new epic DLC for a base game faction that got absolutely 0 character in the base game beyond THREE whole NPCs, and one doesn't even want to talk to you, the other is Vanguard exclusive and the companion gives us the most information about them, but not enough to make it worthwhile. Because that's what Bethesda does now. They cut content and sell it to you at a later date. They took the model from Fallout 76 and put it in a singleplayer game. Sell them the bare bones now, fix it 2 years later and then say "it's finally good guys."
Starfield for me is a great game .anything that adds to this makes the game more emersive we have a choice to pay for things which we all do in life .
...and following the Bethesda Standard business model like Skyrim, Fallout... Please note: new is some mods don't block achievements... I bought some for Skyrim, the Alien story in Fallout! Hey, modders, get paid too! Not just donations. Better for all, as the business model causes creation of mods, extending the life of Starfield.
I'm hoping to get where you are with enjoyment of the base game but I am not there yet. Eventually, maybe. Atleast ship building is fun for me.
I personally bought all of Elianora’s mods for the simple gesture of supporting her work. It’s not a lot of money and it’s not a big deal. People just want to be served free stuff.
As a gamer of over 30 years I remember buying my game from the store in a box, which contained floppy disks and later on a CD-ROM.
THERE WAS NO FREE STUFF TO DOWNLOAD - EVER.
An update / additional content / mission disks etc was bought the same way.
More content takes time to create and time is money. Don’t want the additional content then don’t buy it, simple.
I can relate to this comment. We didn't get updates, we didn't have expansion packs. What you bought was what you got. Until PC gaming became more prevalent and the gamers learned how to change the behaviors of the game. And that didn't even really take off until the early early 2000's.
Agree (I had pong lol), I am perfectly fine paying a reasonable and fair price to someone who worked and put in effort and their own time to build a product.
Yup, us so called "old guys" remember when atari and floppy disks for PC was all we got.
The current generations have no idea how much better everything is now and always have to complain about something.
Lol we couldn't save the game either so we put time in them 😮
I wished I owned a tissue factory. I’d be rich from supplying all the crybabies tissues for their tears 😂
Haha someone should make a tissue factory mod considering how many empty toilet paper rolls there are and cry babies
Your mom wishes you owned a tissue as at least your socks wouldn't be so crusty...
lol
The update was great in my opinion
Its optional, and its a market. I dont understand why people complain about paid mods. People who like them will pay for them
This comes from me, a person that made 177 free starfield mods. And i am also porting them to xbox, for free. Lol.
Stefane, let me know which ones you want me to cover on the channel. Happy to promote your content bruv
I think the problem is that Bethesda charged full price for a half finished game then expect us to pay extra for content that should of been in the base game.
I don't mind paying for dlc's if they have a whole new questline but £7 for one trackers alliance mission is crazy to me.
Thank you for your work!
Because it destroys games more and more! so stop your bs not everyone is stupid enough to hand out free money for nothing and that's exactly what it is ! It's folks like you who one day will destroy games where every damn thing will cost money on top of the 70 dollar entrance fee . Just because you don't care about the way you spend others are smarter ! This is the beginning to gotcha games for consoles and we don't want that sh..
Hey bro! Thanks a lot, pick what you like bro! But maybe Glowing modules? it seems my strongest one!
I agree with you, they are not forcing you to buy anything in the creations club, it's personal choice, I'm just happy that mods are now available for xbox
Thank you sir!!!
I keep thinking of microtransactions in GTA5 where people have spent hundreds if not thousands over the years for stuff like a yacht.
Also people on consoles apparently do not realize how much work is put into the Creation Kit so players need only press a button and they have a mod. If they ever modded current gen games on PC they won't know how awesome the Creation Kit is and how much work it actually saves them.
Tons of free mods coming out everyday.
Updates coming out in a very consistent manner.
Vultures quest is free for Shattered Space Edition which I never hear anyone talking about that. All they focus on is $7.
People just keep complaining no matter how much Bethesda does. Bunch of children that are never happy, smh.
The economy is terrible around the world, and inflation is making it difficult for people to purchase groceries and pay bills. If fast food has become a luxury, gaming entertainment is beyond a luxury now.
That being said, the game developers’ extra work should be paid for. It takes a lot of time, work, and effort to make these games, that we don’t understand.
Those who want the extra content should be allowed to have it, and pay for it, if they want to. It shouldn’t be a problem.
Hating on Starfield is a real hobby for some ^^
Also people saying that modders have abandoned the game are just really dumb imo. The CK just released so we'll se how it goes
Bethesda has been doing this paid mod thing since Elder Scrolls Oblivion in 2006. If you didn’t think that this would happen with Starfield I have several very nice bridges for sale that you might be interested in.
They got away with it in the past as their games used to be good. Starfield is a 6/10 at best.
The internet doesn't need a reason to hate on Starfield.... Any small issue it may get is immediately hated on ... I mean if the game is "dead" according to them, why do they care so much about what it does.... And people acting like Bethesda has never charged for some creations..... I have the premium edition so basically i didn't have to pay anything tor it
Corporate greed alongside the nonsense of charging for mods they didn't create (they take a huge percentage cut from the creation club fees) isn't a "small issue" it's pure corporate greed and you should be rightly annoyed by it.
Yeah, I agree. There's nothing much they can do that would stop the hate.
@@B-26354The world runs on greed. This is moderate. I mean, there are online games charging 20 dollars for a single outfit.
@@MrArchilus "The world runs on greed. "
No it does not! I didn't run into burning buildings to save people for money and neither does you fire department.
I did not enter a hot Landing Zone (LZ) for money.
When you fertilize immorality greed, it grows. that would make you part of the problem, not the solution.
@@B-26354NOBODY is "forcing" you to buy anything! YOU will not tell ME for what I pay and how I spend MY money! The game company is not socialist club - they make games to make as much money for their owners or stockholder as they can!
No they just secured the future of this game by adding official modding support and paid content if you dont like it just don’t support it but I know what I and all the other will we will support it because more companies should do modding especially on console so I’m making sure we support it
The sad thing about this, is these haters want to kill a game, that others like and enjoy. Who the "F" are they to ruin our fun, and enjoyment of this game. There was one youtuber that said they just need to let the game die. Like you said the strongest vote you have is in your wallet.
The quest that they are so upset with has 2 ways to play it, so you can do TWO playthrough, and it will be a little different easy time. This quest was also voice acted. The last time I checked voice actors get paid for their work, just like the coders, artiset, and everyone who has to work on the mod. Like you said,, you don't spend time at work for free? This guy that wrote this article didn't do it for free did he? I don't think so!
If you don't like the game that's fine, and it's fine to say that. But when you go on a rampage, a mission just not to say it but to kill a game that's nothing more then pure maliciousness.
At my age I have seen this happen before, and it has killed games. You have the right to not like a game, and the right not to play it. You DO NOT have the right to kill a game just because you don't like it.
Many of these haters; hate the game because they hyped it up, and made the game into something it was never intended to be in the first place. When it launched, and they were wrong they got pissed, and they don't have the balls to say they were wrong. Instead it's the game that was wrong! There is one youtuber I have follower for years, and even was a member of his channel for years. From day one I was watching his live streams as I played. He was always saying how much he was enjoying the game, and loving it. Then when the hate started, and really got on the roll he stopped playing, and then started to hate the game himself. Needless to say I am no longer a member.
This is all about clicks in the end. "I Hate this game, they just need to let it die" gets more clicks then "Gee I really like this game". People just like bad news. It's funny how these youtubers get piss about companies making a profit as they worry about how many clicks they're getting. Kind of ironic isn't it? Clicks = Profit!
I like your channel because you are honest about your thoughts. You do a really good job keeping your thought balanced. That's why I am going to become a member as well as a follower!
Well said
Bethesda gives out 1 ounce solid gold coins. Gamers everywhere cry "why didn't I get 2 gold coins?!!"
1 ounce Gold coin value $2300 US
More like Bethesda sells you a mid game that is unfinished for 70$ and demands more money for the rest of the game and basic side content through the sale of mods that other people have made.
The update itself in terms of in-game content was more or less The Trackers Alliance; the initial full Bounty mission and the ongoing radiant bounties, Astra currency turn-in for legendaries. There was a little more in the update of course, and then Creation Kit and Creations, but content wise *included* that was it.
As for Creations: Bethesda released 6, 3 were paid. As it stands today there are >500 free Creations (still just 3 free from Bethesda) and 17 paid (again still just 3 from Bethesda). Free:Paid Creations, the paid ones represent 3% (and shrinking) of the added 'value'. The paid Creations are a drop in the ocean, and will arguably be eclipsed easily, though it may not be immediate.
Exactly. With all the fake rage hate and other stuff I’d actually find it amusing if Bethesda just said we’re pulling the plug. To many cry babies. Pushed out shattered space and moved on. I would. Let some punks come to my place of business or home and see that would go down. And when I say pull the plug. I mean shut down all servers, support element and just act like Starfield never even happens as punishment. Yes I would too.
The fact that some player/creator can invent a story for me to play out as a bounty hunter is awesome. I have no idea how to mod, but I love you guys because you’re going to make me love this game again 😢
Killed? I thought according to these people it's been dead arrival? Why do they even care so much if the game is supposedly dead and no one cares about it?
Ultimately. The people behind game design are artists. They need to be paid for their time and effort.
Wow! Dean! How dare you! 😂😂😂😂 Spot on man! Totally agree and have some add so I brought my 55 gal drum of paint for the inconsequential screeches in the peanut gallery. First off the world over all has become packed with too many screechers that feel the world owes them. Ive got bad bad news for everyone! The world, Bethesda OWES YOU NOTHING! Creating content is work. I decide if I create something I feel has some small value. If I work, I expect compensation. There we have conflict. As a disabled veteran that lives barely above poverty and walks the razor edge of homelessness, money above all is important. Everyone acts like they’re still owed something above and beyond. Is the pricing bad, yes. However I got past the two Bethesda reps that actually came to my home, caught me unawares and pointed guns at my head and forced me to spend my credits, that were already inclusive to the content pack I purchased going in. It was horrible when they forced to pry out one of my long unused credit cards and drop a Benjamin on credits. I became even worse when the held steadfast and forced me to browse all the supercool stuff people had WORKED to Create spending time aside from their regular jobs to EARN some extra MONEY. How was I able to this as an impoverished content creator? I saved some MONEY for the future plan going in knowing paid content was coming down the pipe. My gameing history is this kiddies so do your homework. I started on a system called Oddyssy. First game system ever. Then Atari. Then whatever came after that, and the next and the next till here I am on series X console. At anytime no one ever forced me to purchase a console, a game, or any content. I was all done at my free will. If you think this content is expensive, delve into the flight sim world. See how expensive that is and on console there is no free content, planes, everything pay short of updates. No. Why? Because I’m a 55 1/2 year adult that not only has working knowledge of business. Once owned a Hal million dollar trucking company. I understand computers. My first computer was a commodore Vic20. My first PC was a 12Mhz Commodore with a 10MB hard disk and 640K memory. 😮 I have now well over 800 hours or so I Starfield and no plans to quit playing. Here’s where I’m really going to hurt some feelers. If YOU only play games, but have no knowledge of how to design and work in 3d cad modeling, manipulate high resolution texturing and apply it to a 3 dimensional wire model that still might need animation, complete it and get it injected into a game play tested and functional, you’re nothing but a gamer with a worthless opinion you have mistakenly thought was a fact because it steamed out your ears and escaped through your mouth. I don’t even pay attention to the gaming contro’s because I’m playing a single server sided one player role play game in a world designed as I see fit. PERIOD. No one forces me, or you to spend money and personally find it insulting the amount of people that feel with their outrageous expections of what should or shouldn’t be. GET JOBS IN INDUSTRY. PRODUCE VALUABLE CONTENT AT A FARE PRICE. People have also failed to realize that a lot of the content has notes stating in CLEAR PLAIN ENGILSH that it had been uploaded for THEIR GAMES and NOT TO UPLOAD! Whats a matter kiddies? Some or most can’t read? Great video Dean. I agree 1000% whole hearted with what you say here. I watch your content because you have super dynamic personality, sense of humor, clean cut and don’t feel the Murphy need to be an F bomber or rage hater/quitter when you meet defeat. Stay strong Bro! Non Illigitimi Carburundum! En Orbe Terrum Non Visi De Opresso Libre! Viva STARFIELD FOREVER!
I’m 50 and can’t get enough of this game, it appears to hit right for Gen X, not sure why though?
Seems to me the trackers alliance creation is purely an example of what independent creators can create and profit from - not Bethesda trying to sneak some cash...
This is exactly what I thought. It was an example for modders to build off of.
@@ryanmsalisbury5499 set some "principal" on what people can expect from mods and/or expect to profit from
@@noahgubb8938 all I expect is quality work
I seem to remember buying DLCs for Fallout 4.
One thing I'd say is that it's a bit weirdly done. They should've either made the Vulture cheaper or actually make more Tracker's Alliance stuff and make the entire faction into a smaller DLC for like 15 dollars.
It's a bit weird how it's like 80% free and 20% paid
The high priced mods were an unforced error. Everything else in the release was positive. And I do generally agree with them that it should be a direct purchase. The buy Bethesda coins thing is annoying and means you sometimes buy more than you want. But it is not an uncommon practice, so its not a Bethesda thing.
Thanks for speaking up! Ultimately, gaming is a business. If you think about it, this gives gamers a way to directly influence the direction of the game. As you say DeanPo, people will buy the mods they like and not the ones they do t and it motivates BGS with a steady stream of income if they hit the mark with future mods. It also opens up the game to what I am seeing as a Bo rant modding community around Starfield. It’s just the start, let’s see where this goes! Thanks DeanPo for taking a stance against negativity.
*vibrant modding community….
Thank you for the kind words and support 🙏
Screenrant/Gamerant have had issues with the quality and internal consistency of their opeds/etc for some years now.
How can The Vulture simultaneously "[not] offer anything unique...a simple, quick fetch quest" _and_ be representative of "locking story content behind a paywall". Either it's insignificant, in which case don't buy it if you think it's overpriced (I do think it is), or it's significant so do buy it (or don't and accept that).
The only problem that I have is that I can't do a new game start since the May update . As soon as the hunter attacks the lodge everything goes downhill from there . He doesn't show up in half of the locations that he used to . There's 90% more NPCs running around getting in the way . And I can't even board my own ship without getting a forever load screen . The only way I can play the game is to use an old save where I've already gone through Unity . That whole part of the game has way too much going on at the same time to not expect it to cause some trouble . All sorts of effects firing off , NPCs that don't even exist running around all over the place getting in the way . And a frantic music score playing in the background the whole time . I'm a little surprised that I was ever able to get past that . Just too many NPCs on the screen usually causes trouble , add the music and the special effects .🤔
I know this may sound uhm crass? But Im using a mod right now that actually cuts down the number of NPC spawns and has pretty much eliminated stutters or clip issues and hasn’t detracted from my game. Hope it’s helps in some way.
What are you playing on? How old is the system? How many games and/or programs do you have saved and/or running?
Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling the game? I've got so many questions. 😆
You're literally the only person I've seen in all the boards,chats and pages I follow,that has said that or has that problem.
It has to be something on your end that's causing the issue.
The vulture offers 2 main on the screen, but I've also gone back a number of times in the basement and gotten more. But they should have more than just 3 or 4 at time at the terminal
I have to say seeing your video and reading the comments actually gives me hope for humanity as I see more people that grasp reality and don’t fall for the play a victim card. And to see many saying the very same things I’ve said as well just reenforces the fact that people are sick of the never ending stream of manufactured tears.
My only gripe is the pricing doesn't make sense. 7 bucks for 1 quest. VS. The main game has 57 main quest. Around 200 total. If you just look at the main story and faction quests, you are paying under $2 a quest. So you have to pay 3.5 times more for the new quest compared to what you paid for the initial game. If they add targets on the board included in this 7, then it won't be as bad.
That quest was too expensive for the time it took to finish. The free quest was longer and more enjoyable. That’s my take on that situation.
The price needs to be commensurate to the quality of what’s being sold. Which, I hope, will be corrected in the future. Starfield does have some very nice aspects to it.
If someone wanted to they could do the free mission (which is pretty awesome for a free starter mission) then just go off looking for randos who have bounties and make a little extra money as you take care of other things. Basically just a new layer of every day play. But, the story and complexity is what you pay for. The Vulture looks pretty cool for affectively $7. It’s a damn deal people! I’m excited, can you tell I’m excited?
Some players feel disrespected since they bought the Deluxe Edition which nominally includes DLC for free, paid content direct from Bethesda seems like charging for DLC. Certainly the pricing makes it equivalent to DLC pricing if not more expensive. Even Mass Effect didn't charge so much for small DLC addons.
The free dlc is shattered space in the deluxe edition period. Not bounty hunter stuff, that’s bonus. I too advanced purchased premium edition as well as a constellation edition. Please show me in black and white where trackers alliance is even mentioned please or put your legs on and walk away while you can because I have all day to shut this feelers hurting bs down with life facts. Dismissed.
Have I been clickbaited?! And by an elephant no less?!
Real take: It really depends on how many Trackers Alliance missions there are and how much it costs in totality. They could have released the entire thing for $30 as an expansion, with new items and stuff. The way they are doing it now just breaks it into smaller parts so they slowly release the content instead of all at once which is fine, and actually I think is cool. So in the end I'll hold judgement. If it turns into like 10 missions and it costs me $63 that's an entire game and too much.
Boo!
And if that’s the case, don’t buy it 🤷♂️
It would be nice if they put a few (3-5) quests together that cast about $5 per quest. Especially if the group had a few that are linked in a larger story.
Only issue I had was, I started a new character and re downloaded the game after disabling all the nexus mods and content relocators that program uses to make the mods work so I could see if the "official" mods would be less disruptive to the game, (I experienced a lot of issues that more than likely were caused or exacerbated by running mods) so when the official creation kit was released I got the Vulture mission and a cool looking handgun, a Starborn armor skin and a skin to make a drumbeat black, I can use the weapon color mod, but if I apply either of the other two I get the "achievement's will be disabled" message!
Oh, and BTW, nobody mentioned you get a new bounty board with both better rewards and unique completion requirements and those are just like all other faction job boards, so you are getting new faction content for free and you can generate a LOT of credits with these missions! but I definitely agree they should take a look at their price point, especially if it makes no difference if the mods you use are "official" or free!
The biggest issue with them comparing Nuka World to this add-on mission is that Nuka World was an expansion to the game that came in 2016. Bethesda didn’t officially release Creation Club until the following year, 2017. I definitely agree the price isn’t worth it BUT there’s nothing wrong with adding some paid/free add-ons to extend the life of a game. Modders take time and resources to bring their content to life and I think they should be compensated for it, whether they are Bethesda staff or average working folk. Like you said, inflation increases the costs of everything but I still feel like if people don’t spend the money to buy it, they may reduce the cost.
POST SCRIPT: If you are a content creator for STARFIELD and have or plan to get content into the game, paid or not. Hit me up on my place in space here on RUclips and when it drops I’ll definitely give it a look and inject it into my game to try and possibly keep.
You nailed then on the Paradox 🎩👌
Wait, wait, wait... New planets? Why the holy F would we need MORE planets?! The game already has 1000 planets with no content! A handful of tiny inhabited landing zones won't make a difference 😖
Congratulations on 7k!
I love this game! 2,200 hours of gameplay already! One of my good friends is a modder and told me he received over 100k downloads in 4 days on his mods. Don’t believe the Steam haters reviews bombing this game. Mostly, these people are entitled kids that hate Bethesda and want everything for free !!
The people complaining are employees of star citizen lol. I have said my thoughts complain , you can kiss my ass!
Some people drink alcohol and some people smoke, others buy fast food...most of them spend 5 to 15 bucks a day on that, but when it comes to paying 5 to 10 bucks "extra" on a game they really like (and btw it's a 1 time investment) then all of a sudden turn to the game creators like they are the devil, I just don't understand this.
It's got everyone talking about it again 😅
I'm not paying per mission though.
I fully expect the price of any overpriced mods to drop over time. So if you don't think $7 is worth it right now, just wait.
Very little is free in this life, so why do people get so upset. As you rightly say, the choice is ours. I buy a pint in a pub, but don't expect the next one free !!!!
If you don't have money, don't buy paid mods, play the main game you paid for!!!!!!! I can’t understand people, are they really that poor?
Why do you think that everything should be given to you for free?Those who complain about paid content, in real life, won’t even get up from their chairs for free, but at the same time they think that everyone owes them.
Bethesda don't pay attention to the haters, you're doing everything right. We are waiting for ground transport
Best way to do trackers alliance should have been paid DLC for everything and just add free bounty updates as time goes on. That was the standard DLC format of the past and I enjoyed that. Or Season pass as you mentioned.
If the posts I've seen are any indication, I'm sure a lot of the people screaming about this were also very concerned about "ethics in gaming journalism" a few years ago too.
People complaining about bethesda while Ubisoft exists is wild
While I have problems with Bethesda and still feel disappointed with Starfield (outside of the ship building which I do enjoy), I'd buy 100 horse armours before giving ubisoft another dollar.
@ShaggyShagz13 which sucks the direction the Co. went because Black Flag is still one of my top 5 all timers
@@PatJWilliams I'm with you on that. I loved Black Flag. The industry is all about watching our "heroes becoming villains".
SF has never been better BUT vulture mod price (or ships habs mods price fx) is too high. Even compared to the price of Shatered Space DLC. So problem is not the game, or the mods content, or the" fact we'll have to pay for the hard work of people. The problem is the price-policy. I'll vote for Vulture content, because it's cool, when Bethesda *lower* the price. Regarding other creators content : ofcourse it's important to pay our support. Some mods are incredible. Force some bucks absolutely. But not 10$, not even 7$. Something like 4 or 5€ for a BIG mod is enough. PS : a way to gain some of this currency while playing should be put on the table. Not much, but at least a little. Then it will be fair.
So, new update brings “craftable” ammo, which needs uncraftable parts to make … huh? Why would I buy parts to make ammo when I can just buy ammo. This makes no sense. Also, the creation stuff is fine, but it’s missing one key feature, HIDE creations, let me hide creations I’m never going to use to make it easier to browse for ones I might use.
In real life, I make my own or reload so there we go. You can buy ammo, I’ll load my own. You stay in your lane of life and I’ll stay in mine. Thanks for the inconsequential opinion. Dismissed.
@@Slowride75interesting, and completely irrelevant, there are many reasons to make your own ammo in real life, but you fail to answer the question - in Starfield why would you buy a limited resource from vendors and then take the time, effort, and additional resources, to make your own ammo instead of just buying it, often from that same vendor? There is no functional difference in the ammo, you are not making higher power ammo, or high quality ammo with precisely ground black powder to get a specific result. If all the elements could be crafted it would make sense, mine / farm the resources and make your own ammo, but it’s like going to the store and buying the ingredients for a cake, then baking it, vs just buying exactly the same pre-baked cake, not even getting the benefit of it being home made. But if you have the time to waste taking the extra steps, just so you feel some sense of accomplishment, then feel free to make inconsequential replies.
Because it’s my single player role play game and I can do whatever the hell I choose. Dismissed.
The Creation Club is a framework. Yes, the Vulture was 10 bucks and while the Fallout 4 addon FROM BETHESDA was less per payable hour because they had inside access to code, the programmers already on board and working, the infrastructure, the ability to integrate heretofore unused/discarded ideas, etc. whereas an individual developer is operating on a different resouce/cost basis. The new framework allows individual developers the ability to cut their teeth on making mods and additions to the game and sell them. Will they need to charge 10$ for a few hundred hours of coding? I would think so. And I would expect some of them will plow the profit back into their work and make more. Some will expand and start companies. Maybe, (hopefully), some of them will move from that to later give us even DLC sized expansions one day. The Starfield universe is ripe for that kind of creative expression and opportunity and kudos to Bethesda for offering the platform for it.
I love Starfield, Creations club has added more features that are free and some paid for. Its great that diversity in a game is possible and I'm going to carry on playing.
As another commenter stated, the internet doesn’t need a real reason to hate anything other than they’ve seen someone else’s post typically
If they sold a mod like the deluxe dynamic boost pack instead of the whole quest they might do better. Honestly I have seen new advanced items that I really would like. I bought the boost pack one and enjoy landing and not worrying about broken bones.
If they could make a mod that would allow modification of a Beowulf to fire penetrator rounds or something like changing the reticle color from black to read. I could see paying for something you could use game wide if it's cheap enough.
Screen Rant generates its content from Reddit rants. It's garbage.
Nice rant…you tell’em DeanPo lol…give ‘em the old what for/how come. I did a mission from the mission board down stairs…the sent me to Maheo the sister planet to Cheyenne. Most of the bad guys “Ecliptic” were very low lvl. I have a mission from the old mission board and it’s to a lvl 55 planet…go figure cause I thought the mission board would lvl with me I was delusional…taint so. I love this game ✌️
They can save this by marking UI mods and other mods (player homes etc...) as Achievement Friendly. As long as most of the mods break Achievements it's a pointless addition.
There should be clear guidelines for modders to avoid breaking achievements with their mods. The current rating system limits my Xbox experience to the Bethesda made mods only.
Very heavy wording for a serious gaming website.
I may agree that this single mission doesn’t deserve $7 on its own, but that’s all. The same goes for a cup of latte that costs $5.
A question to Lee D’Amato:
Would he agree to get paid $100 to write an article for ScreenRant, and then write for them for free every week in the future??
Why not??? He already got paid $100 once!..
Love the analogy, I’m with you on this one
Bwaahhhhahaha DIRECT HIT, fire for effect!
The issue for me with the creations is that they gave verified creator status to the creator of one of the unofficial starfield patches. This tells me that Bethesda is aware of all the bugs the modders have fixed and they are intentionally not fixing them in the base game. And if you use the unofficial patch to fix the bugs that Bethesda are aware of and choosing not to fix then you won't be able to get achievements. If Bethesda were serious about making Starfield their least buggy game they could just review the fixes in the unofficial patch and incorporate then into the base game for everyone.
This just an industry standard business practice. I apologize in advance if you didn’t recognize or already know this. Now you do.
Great video as always keep up the good work man
Thank you sir 🙏
Just reading the comments had me investing in diaper,tissue and babybottle manufacturers. 🤣 🤣 🤣
The Trackers Alliance is a good idea, but it should be one price, not a continual cost. I used my free credits & doubt ile buy more, even though yes I understand a lot of time was put into the missions.
Loving starfield
We're expecting so much new content in the future (which the game needs), that the Vulture mission is a drop in the bucket. But it is a fairly expensive drop. If that's how Bethesda is setting the tone for what's to come, I can see how people would be put off by that. It's too soon for review-bombing, though. I still think the game would be treated more fairly if it wasn't a Microsoft exclusive.
It looks like they photoshopped Andreja to the original Xbox graphics lmao
NGL I’m a day one player and currently still play. What’s bad to me is I paid for the deluxe edition and still haven’t gotten the expansions and they come out first with paid content. That bounty hunter dlc is trash plain and simple. I don’t care if they gave it to me for free. I know the expansion is coming but it will be over a year since launch that it comes. I hope it isn’t the only expansion because I paid good money for this game.
99% of the creation content is free and always will be and almost of the best mods are free so... people just like to complain
Starfield keeps getting better. We need more paid quests, keep them up Bethesda, do what the Car industry, the PC Industry, the... oh yes, all industries and markets do. Don't buy the mod if you don't want too, others might want to, preventing choice is wrong! Of course the haters want Bethesda to fail, just because Microsoft bought them.....Game Pass as Bob Igor stated the other month, by itself will overtake Sony as the industry standard, Disney's CEO sees it and is blatant about it. The greatest deal Gamers have ever had since the industry was born is Game Pass, his words, not mine. The heavy wallet that Game Pass provides beats the empty wallet Non-Game Pass leaves. Choice versus No-Choice, common sense always prevails in Consumption Demand. Great video DeanPro, good spot on that article, great talking point and keep the videos going, superb!
@DeanPo All this 'hate' over the 'pay' missions is absurd. Modders will make plenty of free missions, or really long ones for small fees. Modders deserve pay, too. I know it's considered a 'cop-out' to say "Modders will fix it", but BGS is NOT the only studio to use this 'polishing' tactic.
I think most people are fed up with micro transactions from other games over the years and to see Starfield turning to this will overall have a negative impact my opinion. I think that money they gain in micro transactions will be less than the money they lose from people turning away from the game.I could be wrong, but that’s my opinion in my decision of the game itself
Ive been playing since day one and even more since mods. This changes the game to how you want and im happy with that. I play more skyrim, fallout 4 and skyrim than any other game. Only game came close to the level of excitement to those games is witcher wild hunt.
Thanks Dean well said!
With creations added to Xbox I've started a new character with all mods and have my original without I'm getting to 100% completion. So I would say my dedication to this game has doubled. The people complaining are just being whiny children imo crying because something they can't or won't do (development) isn't doing exactly what they want.
@deanpogaming a new mod in creation that might interest you for a deeper hardcore mode. It's called Starvival - Immersive Survival Addin; Scarcity. I haven't tried it but instantly thought of you when I saw it.
Ooooo let me check it out
would this writer also make a big huff about games like skull and bones which cost money but also have cosmetics for micro transactions etc ? i just dont get why starfields the focus for them
Oh, and Dean, GREAT VID MAN! Great vid.
it astonishes me sometimes just how common the bandwagon fallacy is online
No, they didn't.
Starfield would have been great If they had worked in a decent script, a great sound track, good voice actors, interesting quests, good space combat and launched in 2015. Adding in paid mods to fill this soulless garbage was the final nail in the coffin.
Creation club has never been free this is stupid. Live the new quest love the updates. Ground vehicles and Shattered space will be the cherry on top.
7 dollars for one quest is crazy. And I'm glad the actual people who PLAY THE GAME have voiced their discontent. Being complacent doesn't bring change. HOWEVER, my problem is the people who claim they don't like the game and don't play it but continuously come to Starfield channels and articles to dogpile on the game. I was watching a tutorial on ship building the other day, and the comments were full of people basically shitting on the game. The content creator posted a TUTORIAL, not an opinion or think piece. So if you don't like the game, why are you there????? I don't understand the need for them to spout their opinions about a game they claim they don't play. You're just trolling, you're not voicing discontent to make the game or experience better, you're just doing it because you either don't like the company, or you're pissed BG has put FO/ ES6 on the back burner so they can focus on Starfield. These are the "gamers" that piss me off. I'm not a confrontational person usually, but when I see those kind of comments in places they really shouldn't be, I will say something.
I will never play another ubisoft game again after seeing the way they exploited micro-transactions and went woke with the newest AC game. I don’t think it’s fair for people to lump Bethesda’s business model in with that same ilk because Bethesda is allowing content creators to be compensated for their own unique creations. It’s allowing talented people from our gaming community to earn a living. I have my own strong criticisms regarding many of Bethesda’s decisions (garbage Fallout TV show being one of them) but I don’t see this particular situation as something fans should be upset over. There are plenty of free mods if people don’t want to pay for this stuff or can’t afford it. YMMV
i swear the trackers vigilance quests comes with a lot of dialogue a new weapon etc lots of work clearly went into it i dont see and issue with paying a lil for some extra stuff if you want to if not, all your missing out on shouldnt be an issue for ya ?
Internet's a slavering beast these days. All you have to do is get its attention and you could lose fingers. Bethesda hasn't innovated anything here. They're huffing and puffing to keep up with EA who manages to get another couch and chair or cute outfit for the Sims out about every other day at 4.99 a pop. Anyone who visits their content page will get buried under a wall of DLC's, game packs, expansion packs, kits and now their own version of creation club as well. none of it works, bugs never get fixed, if a bug does get fixed a new pack comes out and breaks it again. But 9 out of 10 on Steam. Go figure. lol
I brought the Starfield hundred dollar edition and I did not regret any of my purchases because I already know about Bethesda I know how they are and I know that they are working on it and fixing the game and patching it up so let them do their thing let them cook I'm perfectly fine
I am not badmouthing the game anywhere. I have been a long time fan, having to be that fan in secret to avoid getting an ear full from friends about how terrible a game that they have never played is.
I won’t be buying anything from the creation club though. I will play whatever else is available and mods from Nexus.
Keep up the good work.
This update has expanded this game enormously, imagine how many mods are coming our way weekly? Screw the haters, best game around imho.
also starfield was a game pass game so most people got it for free
Content makers get more clicks from bashing and making mountains out of ant hills, it's like watching the news on TV the ones screaming about something usually get the most viewers. I didn't have to buy anything, and I had the free credits, and I didn't buy anything. If something doesn't look worth it, you don't have to buy it and the vulture isn't worth it. I got a few great free mods, and if I really like a mod I do try to support the modders.
At this point with the last two updates…it is now better than Skyrim. In the next few years as they continue to hone everything it definitely will far surpass what Skyrim is. There is plenty of free stuff on the Creation Club. Should Bethesda charge you for managing your load Order and everything that’s involved behind the scenes to ensure these modes run on Xbox? Yes! I mean you can get a PC and the software and manage all that stuff yourself but it’s not free. So stop complaining. I think the complainers have no idea what it takes to run mods on PC. It’s pretty awesome that Bethesda does this for you for what? Half the cost of a movie ticket (Bounty Hunter mission). It’s amazing just that Bethesda gives a space for content creators to do all this. Most game developers don’t.
BTW great video @Deanpo Gaming
Thank you for the kind words and support
This isnt a loot box pay to win content, its a optional content that doesnt affect the outcome or game play. If you dont like it dont pay for it wont make a difference. I have no issue with paying for someones hard work profit isnt a dirty word. Bethesda isnt ripping you off like other companies its saying we like to get paid, whether its way above market value means you as a consumer can vote with pocket book .
i dont care personally. I play on PC i can get better mods than creations offers. Though I still bought the vulture mod. Sure it was part of the free one k they gave. Though I like the rifle and i did the quest at 100. I also picked up the Special Agent Housing. My char usually starts in Neon as a cyber runner. That house made the RP complete. Nobody would be complaining if it was simply a weapon skin that made the hardtarget Look Like the new sniper.
Either that or its broke envy. That i got a decent quest with the new weapons and clothing was cool too. Are they the strongest i have? No. The coolest looking? again No. Did i want to put a little change in the pockets for doing it? Yes. I support that which i enjoy.
The haters don't mention that Trackers Alliance, is first on the list of mods offered and that we are given enough credits to get if FREE.
Love this video, and I couldn't agree more. That article is full of so much bullshit, I suspect it was written in a cow pasture with the author sitting on a fresh cow patty. I can't begin to recall how many times I've seen exclusive missions locked behind pay walls in games; typically only if you order a pre-order version with a huge upmarket.
Also, the whole "disrespectful to players who already paid a premium..." is a huge bunch of crap. Those of us who pre-ordered, or later bought the premium version, got 1,000 free credits in the creation club. So, The Vulture Mission is free, if we want it.
As for bug complaints, you're not being realistic if you expect Bethesda to release anything to Xbox and think it's going to work on Day 1. The hyped graphics upgrade to Fallout 4 was released broken on day 1 to Xbox. You'll never convince me that Bethesda gives a damn about consoles, they're pc focused. Any idiot at Bethesda, could have playtested that FO4 patch on a Series X and realized it didn't work. Let the buyer beware.
And lastly, just as you said, no one is forcing anyone to buy anything. You don't like the prices, don't pay it. But don't be a whiny b and outright lie about other aspects of a game and review bomb it.
Yeah $7 USD for 30 minutes of game time is pretty Gross. Especially when ya know the whole Trackers alliance “faction” was supposed to be a meaty part of the base game But they ran out of time & scrapped it but left us Ship Brigs & EM weapons that serve no purpose now because Bounty Hunting doesn’t really exist in the game it’s just Go shoot the dude with a blue dot above him who’s sitting in an Enemy base you’ve cleared out a thousand times. Yay 🎉
From where I have heard to so far, the author of the article doesn't mention that those who bought the upgraded edition got 1000 creation credits in order to get the trackers alliance quest. Not to mention all the other games out there that have paid dlc. And technically, there is no "free content" in a game that you have to pay to play because of that initial payment to buy the game in the first place. Just saying.
Let me correct your sorely mistaken idea. On initial purchase of big version it was only stated credits included for future content. NON SPECIFIC HOW TO SPEND OR USE. Don’t bend or twist because yes, I’m that guy.
Dude, let them keep hating because I’m just as entertained by the hate as I am by the game itself. 🤣
The irony is, that it only helps the game. Creation has been around for years and people have benefited from it and enhanced their gaming experience. Mods are the only reason people are still playing Fallout and Skyrim.
And there's the real problem for these people…they don’t want Starfield to get the same treatment so they’ll complain as though Bethesda is inventing some new Wheel.
The whole paid mods thing just needs to die in general. If Bethesda wants to release new content, bundle it up with their DLC or release it as a free update. Bethesda is not hurting for money and them locking quests for a new faction in a free update behind a paywall is saying that they don't care about the integrity of their game, but how much money it can print.
They sold us a mid game parading as this apex of exploration when the gameplay loops actively spit in the face of exploration and then demand you enjoy it for no other reason than "we worked REALLY hard on it guuuuuys." and now they're demanding your money to make the game better while teasing this new epic DLC for a base game faction that got absolutely 0 character in the base game beyond THREE whole NPCs, and one doesn't even want to talk to you, the other is Vanguard exclusive and the companion gives us the most information about them, but not enough to make it worthwhile.
Because that's what Bethesda does now. They cut content and sell it to you at a later date. They took the model from Fallout 76 and put it in a singleplayer game. Sell them the bare bones now, fix it 2 years later and then say "it's finally good guys."