“That’s Not What We Want At All” - Todd Howard Responds
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- Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024
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A $7 quest and more than 1 mil people purchasing it is why we can't have nice things and why they will just keep cutting up games to piece them out.
exactly. anybody that pays for that crap is part of the problem
There's a lot of casual players who just don't see the problem with it because they don't really play other games, and it sucks
That is one of the reason xbox players can't have nice things
Funny how he said the mistake was making quest a paid quest and instead he should made the items part of the quest a paid mod 😂
Pre-orderers got 1000 Bethesda bucks included. So I just have my fingers crossed it's a one off, and the next drop won't sell to anyone.
Speaking of old Bethesda games, it also bears mentioning that Morrowind (released in 2002) *STILL* has a thriving modding community.
The next 5 years of Tamriel Rebuilt updates is way more exciting than Elder Scrolls VI to me.
That it does, and they even have community projects to make modding easier. Extra scripts, extra models, extra textures etc.
Chiming in, OpenMw also has a VR VERSION, very enjoyable
Skywind, Skyblivion, openMW multi-player. Stuffs gotten nuts.
Hell, daggerfall still has an active modding community
'We've seen the feedback, that's not what we want'
Translation:
'We don't want that type of feedback to be visible'.
Lol. Wouldn't surprise me.
Announcing our new solution! Just like Nintendo we have got rid of those pesky review things and all our games are now exclusive to the Behesda launcher!
Yayyy!
"thats not what we want"
"thats not what we want"
"Please stop accurately describing our game."
He’s a modern day Peter Molyneux
I learned my lesson with Fallout 4. Bugdeadstha.
Those numbers revealing just how many people bought that quest shows how we'll never escape these monetization practices.
I say the gamers that perpetuate this deserve to be scammed. They earned their idiocy and can have it. I've moved on to indies entirely. CrossCode, Vintage Story, RimWorld, Avorion... There's an endless bounty of fantastic games so I really do not need a bunch of egotistical scam artists and their trash such as Rockstar, Ubisoft, XBox, and even Nintendo. They lost me years ago. I have fun again and that's all I wanted.
@@MorfsPrower Yeah these practices along with the recent push for fake "diversity" has made me also go pretty much fully into indies. Crosscode is a shining example of an amazing one. There's only a very select few games from AAA companies I'm interested in and they're all A: from Eastern based devs and B: aren't overly monetized.
I'm hoping it's just from the free 1000 points most people got. Please don't tell me most people spent money on this. Damn I hate normies.
@@GameBoyDame Can't do anything about the large sea of casuals. Informed gamers are a small drop in comparison. A few years ago I talked to somebody on the train who chatted about the FIFA games with his buddy. Apparently, they were buying the same game every year and spent about a thousand euros on player cards on each game. I can't fathom how they could still buy this crap, but my attempt at convincing them to change to better and cheaper games was in vain. They didn't even understand the overly expensive monetization and kept happily spending money on it.
@@ollih.901 I don't understand how these clowns fall for it over and over again.
Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
That itself is a lie
i get that reference
that's crazy talk
I heard the words in tune but can’t remember the song
The paid quests was planned in advance, regardless of what Todd says. In the older "May Update" vid they released, you can see all the bounty quests they had planned in the background. In their "June Update" vid, a dev said that more of the bounty quests are coming as part of "Creations" aka their cash shop.
Yup, it's just cut content that they decided to charge for instead
It's a weapon and armor DLC, the quest is just a lore friendly bonus quest in the same style as past creations from Skyrim
They will fire 500 people and give all the money to 1 guy that leaves the company with a golden parachute.
And that guy will go to another company and do the same thing.
“It’s just good business”
Tale as old as time😭
Todd needs a new yacht. He got well bored of the old one.
@@decorumlopez9147 "It's gonna have 5-times the detail"
16x the negative reviews
It just works
4x the size of previous s-storms
see that massive red review bar, you can make it bigger!
Correction: That's exactly what they wanted but just got backlash and are making excuses now.
A very 'were sorry you feel that way' type of energy.
@@naruhearts1 We are sorry but thanks for your money.
Also, we do keep it.
let me guess, credits can only be bought at 500 and 1000 or more amounts?
yea, todd you can eat a eggplant salad
raw eggplant i hope.
Whole eggplant I hope
@@Akirathedon92 A radish. Look up Rhaphanidosis.
No, 300 is a better minimum for awkward pricing. Then 650, then 1450, etc...
500, 1000, 2700, and 5500. At least on steam.
Hasn't Todd repeatedly lied in the past? Why believe him again?
16x the lies, 4x the deception
100x the reason to remember the name
@@Gaheku 1x truth.
@@Gaheku To be frank, if he promises lies, he's more likely to give the truth.
because "it just works".
Selling something =/= giving back to the community.
Allowing for mods to be installed on consoles, or making an in-game mod launcher to help people just install mods and play, is a big convenience. Sure I know how to set up a nexus account and get mods from Nexus, it sure is easy to just install mods from within the game, and no one's talking about that.
This menu will help the game outlast other games released this year.
@@kay94 Selling something =/= giving back to the community, setting up a storefront so you can turn other people's work into revenue, because you can coat it in 'convenience' for some, IS NOT GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
I think paid mods are a good thing, overall, I'm not mad when mod makers would like to get paid, I'm mad Bethesda takes a cut while acting like they're doing some good community service, when at the core of it they only care about it being a source of revenue.
@@sazjnk95 Why does steam take a cut from game purchases? Any online service needs some income to keep servers running.
@@sazjnk95 So you expect them to pay modders to make content for their game while they make nothing? I hate to break it to you, but video game companies need to worry about way more other than their fans, especially one like Bethesda who is owned by two bigger and much more greedy companies.
bgs wants to release broken games that their customers fix for them and then they want to charge for it and take a cut.
bgs can get fucked.
check out The Wayward Realms it is being made by the makers of elder scrolls Daggerfall and they want to bring back the good parts of old RPG games
@@DragonmasterKeel that game actually looks awesome! i cant believe i have never heard of it..
what is bgs?
@@NkenKenYbugthesda
@@maofria1452 ah ok
Why is anyone giving this conman the time of day after his constant lying.
Yeah, he's giving Peter Molyneux a run for his money.
Money laundering casino mafia frontman speaks with forked tongue.
People still paid attention to Peter Molyneux after every over-promise and under-delivery with Fable. Even after 3 lol. So idk man.
Because “muh Elder Scrolls”
Not me!!! It's laughable that people still trust anything he says
This is why i love the random timings of the universe coming together and releasing BG3 within months of Starfield. Todd finally got compared and contrasted against a good game that put time, enthusiasm, effort and love into it. Todd got weighed, measured, and was shown up for the mediocre grifter that he and Pete Hines have become.
The sad thing is, when you look back on it, if BG3 had kept the initial September release date to iron out some things, it probably would've done just fine overall. Yeah, the initial release of both games could make things more competitive, but BG3 would've still come out on top full stop. It'd probably be even better with the extra month.
Don't get me wrong, I understand why Larian decided to jump ahead by a month, and I'm stoked the game succeeded, which makes the 20/20 hindsight feel redundant, but I think it's still worth thinking about.
"Premium cosmetics" shouldn't exist in a buy to play single player game. The only justification for microtransactions is an online free to play or buy to play but on a server games. In other words if there is an ongoing cost in running the game the company NEEDS to get paid but something like a Fallout or Starfield, it's just corpo greed.
Todd Howard’s yacht insurance is charged monthly however
The fact BGS can stay open after so many fumbles but arkane and tango can get shut down is beyond insane.
I want so badly for someone to just straight up ask Todd, "Can you explain how it came to be that, despite your relentless hype and enthusiasm for the project, Starfield is your least well received game ever?", to his face. I'd love to see him try to squirm his way out of that one.
"25 years in the making!" 😆
World of Warcraft's Celestial Steed was $25 at launch, not $15. I remember them saying they sold 1,000,000 of them the first DAY, meaning they made $25 million in one day off that store mount! It was at that point I realized what a monster I'd helped add to by buying one, and it is the last Blizzard store cosmetic I ever paid for.
Yeh man that's why they do not teach kids math and percentages anymore, when you start doing the math on A LOT OF THINGS in society, especially relevant to the business world, do not add up correctly
People who bought the $7 quest make me sad for the future of gaming
3-4x as many people are playing FO4 than Starfield.
Bethesda is one of the weirdest game developers out there. They can craft some amazing small scale stories in their world with cool little details. Then do some great story lines with far harbor, the UC vanguard and crimson fleet quests that with some more time in the kitchen to build out the characters and fix plot holes could easily stand as a full game narrative in it of itself. However then shoot themselves in the foot with so many bad quality of life issues and perplexing decisions that have me thinking they are a bunch of headless chickens running around in circles.
We have to remember that bethesda did not make Fallout 1 and 2, they acquired license to make a game with the fallout ip in 2004 and then bought the ip in 2007. So no one at bethesda really has anything to do with fallout 1 and 2 and probably have zero clue how to make a game in that top down style and if they tried to do a remake in their first person style it just wouldn't be the same games.
They could just get another studio to make it for them.
MS owns inXile Entertainment who made the new Wasteland games. I bet they could do a pretty good job of remaking FO 1 and 2.
@@Nodiee1 That really depends on how much Xbox top management sees in the value of fallout 1 and 2 remakes/remasters. Afterall xbox studio current set up is kinda odd with both zenimax and ABK currently having a completely separate management to the rest of Xbox.
Also bet there is a bunch of office politics nonsense between the different sections where they don't share toys between them like ip and engine tools they built
Interplay and Bioware.
By Gamers, For Gamers.
That is how the golden age of video games was manifested.
Stock/Shareholders killed it
One of the problems is that people continue to moan and complain that Bethesda didn't make the original games as if they're kidnappers holding the franchise for ransom. It's ok for them to be critical, but they really need to move on from that and provide more useful feedback. These day people have played 3, 4, Morrowind, Skyrim and probably enjoyed some of them. But then they're also the same people regurgitating the same nonsense about New Vegas, or Todd Howard being jealous of it or some such. People of the community really need to have an original thought of their own if they want to see the franchise improve. Odds are most of them have never played the original games and are just complaining about it because everyone else they know is. Bandwagoning without adding anything useful is creating more of a problem than a bad studio ever will. It dilutes the voices that could actually help the industry. This is something I hope people become aware of.
The only truely great fallout game made whilst they owned the ip wasnt even made by them. If they did remake those games, it will either be mediocre or terrible. Skyrim was lightning in a bottle and new vegas was because it wasnt them
I would point out that for creation store content, a cumulative 1.5 mil is pretty small part of the original game sale volume.
While that certainly still means profit for Bethesda, also consider how many people that means tried the original content and left.
EDIT: I'd also counterpoint what Josh Sawyer said with similarly opposing anecdotes from Nate Purkeypile, another dev who used to work at Bethesda. Their statement was that while the engine makes what it was expressly built for easy to do, a lot of things were difficult to expand upon. This was something corroborated by even Josh Sawyer himself during interviews about developing facets of New Vegas, like the limitations imposed on trying to make the various tribes in Honest Hearts and inability to add diversity to the NPCs without revisions they couldn't afford to do.
L take.
@@zoldlen883 Feel free to say that about stated facts if you want.
@@monody that was 15 years ago bro. Not a very good counterpoint. Another L take.
@@zoldlen883 You mean the interview with Sawyer, who only ever used Creation to work on NV? Then you mean to say it was an L take to use him in the video as well?
Or are you simply looking for confirmation bias?
@@zoldlen883 Bruh, learn to quit when you're already behind.
If they can bang out content so quick then where is it? and why have they never released a finished game?
Not to mention break games that have since been fixed?
We didn't want paid mods before and we don't want them now.
@kay94 see that's the problem, mods should never have reached console, it led to shit like this.
@@mikerotch8375 ? Why shouldn't it? What's your logic behind this?
"Shit like this" is you get very few mods that are paid, but access to thousands of free mods to enhance your experience. So I want to know why you think console players shouldn't have access to mods.
but that's what we get anyway, as long as somebody is paying for it.
@@kay94Its not that i dont think Console Players should have access to mods. I dont think they should be paid. Period. If i want to pay a mod dev ill paypal, kofi, or patreon the dev. Bethesda shouldnt earn a cent from the modders hard work, especially since they dont even make sure the package works before shipping it as a "creation". Also $10 for a *single* *shitty* quest is outrageous. (Yes it is only 700 credits but the smallest pack you can buy that has enough credits is $10) The game is in a terrible state and instead of fixing the fundamental problems (bad narrative, boring exploration, and a useless, unfun outpost system hanging off like a vestigial limb) Bethesda is more concerned about nickel and diming players to milk them for all theyre worth. Id rather go back and play Skyrim or Morrowind than Starfield right now.
@@thegamedoctor1457 I enjoyed the game. I am not paying for any mod, as I don't see how it's forced upon me. It is not at all. If you didn't enjoy the game I can see how you'd like them to fix things instead of this BUT, almost no other company especially for AAA games allows mods on consoles. They want you to pay for every single Assassins Creed and COD rather than giving you the ability to download FREE content.
Working to bring mods on consoles SHOULD be standard for most games, but they don't because they want you to buy their next title instead of you having the option to download infinite free content and play the same game for years and years. Bethesda instead chose to do it and I don't care if they charge for some mods to recoup that cost as long as people can keep making mods for free and console players downloading free content. I really don't get the outrage. Suddenly a "mediocre" game has a modding community on consoles which will only bring more worth out of your 60 dollars and will allow all people who own it to keep playing and playing and playing new content that you don't even have to pay for and you're complaining.
I WISH i had the option to download free content for Elden Ring but instead i'm forced to wait 2 years for an official DLC that costs 30 dollars. With Starfield I don't even have to wait for bethesda to release a DLC when I can just grab whatever free mission people will build. And you're all outraged over a $7 mission. Just do whatever you do in real life when you see something that isn't worth it, don't buy it and move on. I am not gonna pay for any mod and I'm on PC so this doesn't affect me TO THE SLIGHTEST, but I get that Bethesda wants to recoup some money for bringing mods to console when no other company does it. You all are just a hive mind, instead of actually thinking WHO this benefits more(the player or bethesda) you're outraged over a $7 mission that you don't even have to buy, you're not forced to buy it and you even claim it's not worth it, so what's the big deal? Just download the free missions which are better.
just because people were willing to buy something now doesn't mean they liked what they got. Profit now doesn't mean profit later.
That has yet to stop people from buying Bethesda's stuff. It is not like starfield was their first major backlash. They have screwed around since skyrim came out, and everything they do is still super successful. So when what you say is true on a technical level, it is not true in real world application to Bethesda. They literally keep getting away with it.
@@LanthirrhosElden Ring has given them competition, and no one is going to bother playing Starfield 2 if that ever comes out. If the Fallout show tanks which it most likely will then they really don't have any IP to lean on. Bethesda will collapse eventually. You can't produce mid game after mid game.
people will never learnt, trust me.
USE THE COMMUNITY PATCH, *NOT* THE UNOFFICIAL PATCH, PEOPLE!!!!
Or better yet, don't play Shitfield.
The unofficial patch is fine
"No no no, we're not bleeding $ from our customers. We're giving back to the community!"
Piss off Todd. You released a half assed, half done, mediocre game.
I fell for the trap too, and even I have to say we were all fools. We actually thought, like Dr. Weird once said: "This time, SHALL BE DIFFERENT!"
But then it turned out like New Vegas, Fallout 4, Skyrim, and Fallout 76. A half-baked mess that only the modding community can save. "IT'S NOT DIFFERENT AT ALL, IS IT STEVE?!"
Stop using "mediocre" instead of"bad" "awful" "shit".
The stupid thing is, if you play Starfield and fallout 4 with Starfield first, you could SWEAR that Fallout 4 came out AFTER Starfield
@@samuelfawell9159 Starfield is very logical evolution of Fallout 4, if you see how Bethesda gamedesighn "evolves" in TES series.
@@varvarith3090Except they they haven't even used game design documentation for a long while
i think the reason that alot of people are going back to skyrim and fallout, is BECAUSE Bethsda doesnt give us more. every time they update those games to "give us more" aka more creation club slop. they break our mods, or tham game in the case of fallout 4 recently. we go back to try new builds with diffrent mods, or diffrent builds with our current mods. or like skyrim, we try to mod it so unarmed is a viable route to go, aka trying to fix things left behind by bethsda. So, at this point bethsda should just make the games, make sure its a complete game, make a story DLC with worth while content, and then just relase the game to the mod makers. not this ideer of constant support, like its a live service. its a singeplayer game, let it be a single player game.
This is happening in a game that is at best, sub par. Now imagine if you actually have a great game and you do this?
If it's a great game, they wouldn't have the need to do it. Especially if it's a great developer who just gives these kinds of updates for free
@@Akeyins one would think, but when a game is good, people for give its monetization schemes. And that's the danger that this might bring with companies simply not willing to leave money on the table.
@@dumaskhanthank you people forgive any scumbag monetization if the game good when that shouldn’t matter since it still scummy
@@dumaskhan oh yeah for sure. I was more so referring to companies like Larian who put out a ton of new content in their games through updates without charging for any of it and even let people have the ultimate editions of past games for free if they bought the original. The companies who decide to charge for this kind of thing are scummy, and it immediately makes me not trust them and less likely to buy from them in the future. I just wish more people would refuse to give these companies money
What do you think is gonna happen when they finally launch ES6.
I'm an old guy part of the 1% of gamers over seventy -five I have tried many different games over the decades but I keep coming back to my favorite games Skyrim, Fallout 4, and Starfield. Bethesda may have its faults but as far as replayability their games are hard to beat. I have many thousands of hours worth of fun gaming from the many talented developers and modders who have added to my gaming experiences, to them I say thank you.
Todd "thats not what we want..."
So why do you keep pushing paid mods into your games? you gave the go ahead and its not the first time..
Moral of the story: He chats 16x's the amount of bullsh*t a snake oil salesman would sell you.
So modders can actually have a income, from moding that isn't entirely based on patreon.
@@sleepngnightModders hardly get payed through Creation Club, and it’s nowhere near a livable income. If you have a very popular mod on Nexus, I believe the amount of people donating to you would outweigh the flat fee that Bethesda pays you.
Its up to the modders if the mods are paid or not as seen in the full interview, most of those who do paid mods - made a career out if it. If you don't like to pay for mods just visit nexus.
@@sleepngnight its alright what they are doing and hats off to "modders" that get some money doing "mods" finally. But in my mind, these are not "mods" anymore but dlc. So every mod on their creation toolkit should be named dlc's instead. Mods in my mind is something thats being made with love for the community. And these new ones are purely dlc and paid ones for that. But I guess I'm problably the only one not liking it.
LOL, I love how you shills keep pushing that fantasy, like the bulk of the money you pay for the mods isn't going straight into the pockets of Bethesda. Its interesting how many modders are happy to make mods for games like Witcher 3, Baldurs Gate 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 without the need for any "Creation Club" style bullcrap. Its almost like modders-unlike Bethesda-are motivated by something more than money.
in retrospect maybe their sins of DLC horse armor shouldnt have been rewarded despite skyrim's release
There was already a paid mod for Skyrim that added guns with a quest to get it. That sounds like a cheap excuse again. What they want is what we got but with out the bad reviews.
the game is too new and not good enough. It's mid at best and them already charging for new content is not a good look or sign
Bethesda is consistently a leader in negative industry trends
Disagree. Almost all of my favourite games are from Bethesda. I love that they support their games long term and offer paid expansions instead of sequels.
You don't like it. Fine. Move on. Why watch youtube video's about stuff you don't like? Talk about wasting your life.
@@RandomWandrer Fan boi alert!
Todd is one of the least trustworthy/most greedy public facing game execs out there. I've just ignored everything he says since he openly said he needed to find a way to monetize the people who dump thousands of hours replaying Bethesdas games before revealing paid mods.
Sounds like he's being honest and the subject is just one you don't want to hear
Tod Howard has always given me weird vibes. Ever since his Skyrim interviews it almost felt like he was moving more and more towards monitization rather than fun gameplay direction. Like I want to like him but he has never given me a reason. Everytime he talks its like he is walking on egg shells.
He's changed, he went from walking on egg shells to straight up reptilian. In this interview he's like Zucc if he could talk smoothly to sell you his snake oil
Todd is known to be a huge fan of barbarian gameplay and despises magic. Easy to see why the College of Winterhold doesn't need an archmage to know any magic at all. Apart from that he was the head of multiple clubs during his school and college time which directly leads him to the philosophy that the MC of TES games needs to be able to do everything without any restrictions at all. The moment the people capable of straining him left TES games went down in quality.
@@jpineapple9495 Politician is definitely the word to describe Todd Howard.
He says what he thinks people want to hear, and doesn't mean a word of it. He is duplicitous.
@@Xalantor Todd definitely doesn't despise magic 😂
@@planescapedthat is half true you can tell when he's not lying if you watch the interview with Matty he does ask some questions where you hear Todd reply like the new sports game and the way Todd's voice shifts you can tell when he's being an snake oil salesman and a normal person.
When he says the "Long term support" stuff, he is really saying Live Service Model.
Don't forget that if a player has 40 hours of gametime that is 20 hours loading screens...
Literally.
@@jashloseher578Not at all. Loading screen time is probably 1% of the time you spend in menus.
@@michaelh878 People use literally when they literally have no idea what literally means
This is why I'm looking forward to wayward realms being made by Once Lost gaming and their Kickstarter.
I'm not even interested in the game but I'm rooting for them. Anything to create competition and cut down greedy companies player counts
@Akeyins mine really is i want to see what the elder scroll games could have looked like if they went with getting bigger instead of condensed.
I really don't understand how people can trust anything coming out of Todd The Meme Howard's mouth lol.
Consoomers gotta consoom the slop.
Because “MUH NOSTALGIA” and “I don’t care if it’s gonna be harmful as long as ***I*** have fun!!!”
About the 70:30 split - when Bethesda first introduced paid mods for Skyrim they did offer 70:30 or 60:40 something like that - and people boycotted it to shutting down.
Then Bethesda did introduce the creation club with the whopping 100-0 split - yes, creation club didn't give creators ANY revenue split, they were one time payments for making the mod, then all profits went to Bethesda - for some reason community had much less issues with that than modders actually being paid fairly for their work
Don't forget you get a free 1000 credits from buying the deluxe edition so I wonder how many picked up that quest with just those
The deluxe edition costs more the then base edition. Meaning anything additional "free" products are baked into the increased price. This is a marketing tactic. It's lies.
@@ninjason57exactly. It's wild to me how many people think a bonus they get from buying something is considered free. Like if you buy currency in a gacha game and they say "free extra gems" or whatever, you still have to buy the gems first. It's a predatory and gross marketing tactic
@@ninjason57false value proposition in full swing, just like buy one get one half off
People who bought the premium edition got 1000 credits. This would of been used to get that creation club mission. So i dont think they earned that much money from that one quest.
I like most of MrMatty's videos, but there is no doubting he is a *massive* Bethesda simp, so I am not surprised that Todd chose him as an interviewer.
Yea that is what Zenimax/Bethesda/Microsoft want, people been complaining for years and they didn't change anything, why would it be any different now?
Those numbers cant be right. does "Play" actually mean purchase? or how many times the mod has been used? "Play" being higher than "Seen" seems impossible if it is purchase
Play is counted every time a player starts up the game. Every instance of the same player turning on the game massively inflated the stats.
"Hey guys we keep hearing you all love it when we act humble an apologize so now that sales are dwindling we'll do that."
They definitely knew. The entertainment industry has transitioned from trying to give the customer what they want. They now try to slip what they want past the customer.
Or... you can make a game with NO additional "micro" transactions and play BS in your 70-100$ game that is a broken piece of shit.
*2003:* I enter a store to find a game.
*2023:* I enter a game to find a store.
@@MichaelPohoreski So true, and quite sad
It's really cool to see MrMattyPlays finally interview Todd Howard; I feel like I've watched him grow up in a weird way that comes with putting videos of yourself online.
"It just works," isn't that how it works, Howard?
Good ethics are rarer than gold in this world.
For anyone downloading Startfield mods, DON'T use the Unofficial Startfield patch, use the community patch instead.
Why?
@@noahlefebvre29because the Modder for Unofficial is a bellend and has been caught bricking games for having mods he doesnt personally like. (At least I think thats him, i might be wrong on that one. I know for certain hes just been a dick in general.)
@@thegamedoctor1457 Arthmoor yes, he's well known for it.
@@thegamedoctor1457 damn that sucks ass, USSEP was pretty useful
Todd: We got it wrong.
Everyone: So, you'll change it? Do better next time? Learn from this?
Todd: No, not at all. We got wrong the fact that people were upset. This is exactly how we want to run our games. Give us your money, idiots.
About the outside source which is Bethesda official website, the numbers of supposed sells are under "PLAYS". I wonder what kind of magical mechanism is hidden under the hood, I highly doubt it's a purchase for each "PLAYS".
"we've seen the feedback, and we are very sorry that we made you feel this way"
The gaming community never fails to disappoint with their inability to not spend money on garbage games.
You maths is incorrect on this one. Those '944,477 PLAYS' are NOT downloads, their actually just the number of times somebody starts the game with the creation installed, so if download it and play Starfield 5x in one days it adds 5 to the total number of 'PLAYS' This means that these numbers are massively inflated and do not represent how many people have downloaded the creation (you'll also notice they have half as many page views). I reached out to Bethesda support who confirmed this, because it does seem like a uninformative figure to track.
Unfortunately this means that theirs no possible way of publicly tracking how many people have brought/downloaded a Creation. But I've no doubt its made allot of money for people who want more content in the game.
I would love to see Todd Howard sit for a interview with Jason Schreier .
But even that train crash wont change the mind of Bethesda cult members lmao
If Jason Scheier learned anything damning about Bethesda he would just sit on it and not publish it. After all he did it with the sexual harassment story on Activision Blizzard.
Jason Schreier can be trusted approximately as far as I can pitch a Buick. Well, maybe not that far. I will add that Todd, for all his faults, is working for a corporation which he serves as loyally as he is able. Schreier, on the other hand, is one of these pseudo journalist's to whom honesty is a foreign concept and whose agenda is always readily discernible.
Even before his Bloomberg days, Schreier had two angles for his articles: social justice, or corporate perspective. Both have their place, and can be tremendously powerful, but I think an interview with Todd wouldn't be terribly constructive. BGS is going well, and they've not had any social justice issues (at least that anyone has leaked).
Jason Schreier wouldn't do anything to hold Bethesda to account. He actually loves justifying bad microtransactions. Jason only cares if a studio is going against his pet causes, aka game dev unionization, employee layoffs, or the dreaded "crunch".
Also Todd would never sit down with him, because Bethesda blacklisted him after he leaked the entire intro script to Fallout 4 in 2015. Ironically, Schreier also has written articles condemning people who leak info pre-launch. Guess it's only allowed when Schreier does it. Integrity is low with with him.
Both of them are disingenuous liars, but Jason is especially a liar with blatant political agendas. Why would you want to hear them at all?
Look into Skywind and Skyblivion. Its a community mod that puts Morrowind/Oblivion storyline and map into the Skyrim engine. A lot of QoL changes and insane level of graphics compared to their respective games. Probably the best/only remaster we will get of them.
Would love to see a video from you talking about it! A lot of the work is done by volunteers and they could always use help. Seems like both of the projects will be coming out in 2025 too so it wont be an insane wait (for new people that is, ive been waiting a couple years now)
edit: Skywind and Skyblivion are being worked on by two different teams, with two different release windows. Just very similar to each other.
While people were fixating on the $7 Starfield quest, what they including MrMattyPlays missed was that Fallout 76 went full pay to win with the Skyline Valley update. You can now swipe your credit card to rank 150 of the season pass and directly buy power in the form of perk coins. Todd Howard accidentally brought it up himself thinking that Matty was talking about it, but Matty was oblivious.
This was always their plan with 76, but they faced so much backlash early on that they were forced to push it off until later
@@toolshedvideo This was always their plan? No. In 2018, Pete Hines got on stage and said that the only monetization that would come to Fallout 76 would be in the form of cosmetics in the Atomic Shop. That was before the game launched. There was no backlash. That's a false narrative. There is even a Pete Hines interview where he addresses being called a liar. He basically said it was never their plan to stray from charging for anything beyond cosmetics, but it didn't work so they had to.
Lmao imagine believing anything someone says on a stage
@@kharmachaos667 What I wrote has nothing to do with belief. It's just an accurate accounting of the facts. What toolshedvideo wrote isn't.
Been subbed for about a year now and you guys are basically my daily news channel.
All my Heros are Villians now.
No, you finally weened off the teat. They were always villains.
@@gstreetgames2530 Damn, guess I gotta grew up.
@@gstreetgames2530 yeah bethesa might have had the very first microtransactions on a home console, they've been rotten since oblivion _at least_
@@comyuse9103 Indeed at least since Oblivion. IMO thy have been coasting on Morrowind's impact.
Y'all acting like Skyrim didn't set the bar for the longest time on open world game design smh. Give credit where credit is due they did not coast on Morrowind at all.
Maybe it's a good thing that we'll all be in our graves before elder scrolls 6 is released.
They knew no one wanted $7 quests... they just thought they could get away with it.
I think it is a weird one. I'd rather have games complete at launch. So if further things are added I don't have a problem with some of it being free and some of it being paid. I don't really understand the expectation for free things to be added to games for years.
@@michaelh878 You're strawmanning the position.
What people want is to not be nickel & dimed or conned with the promise of a good & substantial game which falls off within a few hours. If you're adding 1 quest that was obviously cut to make the ship deadline... it should be free. Especially when the game is known for being low on content & the content being mostly bad. They should be scrambling to actually make the "good game" Bethesda convinced people they were buying.
They're verging on fraudsters trying to con you a second time before you've even forgotten the last time.
Add-on content should also be substantial enough to be worth people's attention. No one wants to make a transaction & direct their attention to Starfield again, slog through all the loading screens for a 40 minute quest in a game known for all the quests being bad... then shut the game off and transition to something else.
Better to just go straight to something else & not suffer the frustration of all the extraneous problems of Starfield & purchasing... even ignoring the actual monetary amount.
I have to agree the Geck and the Creation kit are both amazing development tools, i picked them up as a 13 year old playing morrowind.
“Business as usual at Bethesda” that is a very worrying thing…
Note that the 'plays' count brought up at around 5:00 isn't the number of purchases, or downloads, it's the number of times that the game has been launched with the creation installed (it's particularly clear that it's not a download-count when you notice that on both xbox and pc it's higher than the 'views' count)
I hate the game industry so much.
Todd... Todd never changes...
- this is not we want 😞
- we just want you to consume products not demand lowest tier of quality
It is also not increasing the value of a cosmetic. It is drastically inflating the cost of gameplay.
If I paid for a AAA game, and they decide to offer me a new outfit for a few bucks, I can safely ignore it unless it's just so cool I must wear it. I can still play the entire game. If they offer me a quest for 7 dollars, I am missing out on gameplay, which is actually what I'm here for, unless I buy. It is very different.
I just can't wait for Bethesda to mess up TES6.
That will honestly be the saddest day of my life.
And that’s saying something since as a Marine veteran, I’ve had to cope with the deaths of brothers both in and out of combat.
don't worry, we will finally have a real TES game soon, Oncelost Games is made up of the people that _actually_ made The Elder Scrolls and they are making a new game called The Wayward Realms.
They already did, if their moronic DEI activists in positions of power in the company are any indication.
@@comyuse9103 While the community has fixed the previous Bethesda games, let's not pretend that it has also been a good thing to the game(s). Will we see the same community for Wayward Realms?
The biggest advantage their mods have is compatible and not having to worry about versions.
You wouldn't have to worry about versions if Bethesda stopped doing meaningless updates to their games.
@@speedingoffence yeah, i am convinced some of them are just to break mod compatibility to make users buy into their shitty paid mods.
@@comyuse9103 Which means that the people buying those mods are directly harming the modding scene. Ya, I'm not not happy about that.
How about making a game that doesn't look like it was made on a 20 year old game engine.
I bought Eli's hab mod, mostly because of her work in the modding community overall. It's a good mod, but it was more important that she'd get a revenue split.
Stop blaming Bethesda and Todd, blame yourselves and your wallet for letting they got away with these practices since Oblivion.
Of course, because it's not the grifter that's at fault for grifting! It's the mark. Sure bud.
You bought the horse armor didn't you? 😆
Blame goes to all.
First, I've thought about being critical about the ads, but the "sike" then a self promotion, was pretty appreciated.
Obviously you can't always do that, but I look forward to the time when you will be able to "choose" ads.
Really appreciate your content.
Im still with a sour taste because of that BetterHelp ads, but slowly it's going away.
im old enough to remember the first time they made this mistake. they wont learn
Great reporting Michael, really enjoyed this.
So they are testing the waters for "pay to quest"....keep preordering and buying DLCs, guys!!!! You champs.
Is the guy finally free from the delusions that his games are good?
By his speech with the lore regarding Fallout, it's clear he has no fucking ideas what his games are about.
Doubtful
Nope
Obviously not.
Come back to it 3 years from now, when it’s actually a complete product. You know, like Skyrim and FO4 are now.
Mr Matty plays is a Bethesda bot and schill.
No other engine can handle the sheer number of grilled cheese sandwiches the masses crave.
Bethesda keeps trying to monetize mods and it keeps not working.
There is much to criticize about Starfield, but I think it still has the foundations to become something really great when they start to put work into the right things. Imho they need to advance the random exploration gameplay-loop, a key feature of all their games. They should have a small team constantly working on more POI's so that at some point you rarely stumble into the same things when exploring a planet. As well as adding more reasons to go and explore on your own.
But I also found out they are already working on moving beyond map borders on a planet which will put you into the next tile with more to explore. This can only be accessed by adding a command in a setup file on pc, and is work in progress, starting to bug out after moving too far from where you started.
Yeah I think it is better than Skyrim,oblivion, fallout 4 with much more variety of things to do. I really enjoyed fallout 3 and Morrowind and would put starfield in the middle of the 5. It has so much potential which I just don't see for elder scrolls 6, 7 or 8.
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Its the exact same as this 'cost of living crisis' in the UK
Everything went up in price, PEOPLE CONTINUED TO BUY IT, then shock horror the prices didn't go down.
We complain about the sparkly pony, PEOPLE STILL BUY IT, then we complain about sparkle pony 2
Didn’t really lie, more like over exaggerating… just dial it back 16x and you got the truth
Bethesda depends on modders to make their games playable & charges for quests lmao. People actually buy games from this company still, embarrassing.
Being Starfield is a New IP As well as a new game. I really have no issues with the Creations page.
It is when they put paid mods into old game 10+ years after the fact I have issues. When they break everyone's Skyrim to re re re re lease it for the 1000 time just to put in a 5 dollar horse armor I get pissed. Not mad Pissed.
It's not just monitizing the quest but the fact they pulled this BS while the base game is garbage. Terribe script, Poor voice acting,, graphics from 2015, over repeated dungeons and planet exploration that has no purpose. This should have been considered first. Woops! Forgot the space combat designed for 3-5 year olds.
I'm off to write a poop on Todd mod which you can buy for $10.
Developing a new engine likely will cost Bethesda over half a billion dollars. At least one as fully featured/modable as the one that exists now... not likely at a time where the whole industry is contracting and consolidating to be competitive. and.. that cost will bleed into the unit price of future titles and more aggressive monetization.
What the hell kind of metric is "plays"?
I don't want a remaster of the older games since modders are already doing it. For free. And likely better.
I don't want bad comment I WANT MONEYYYYY
At the present time, to access creation club in starfield, you most likely have to edit/delete game files to even get it to open.
I lost faith in Todd after Fallout 4 launched. Basically throwing everything that made FNV great into the trash, and not even mentioning their name or game unless he had to. His reputation has just kept rolling downhill ever since.