Great summary. I am a history teacher and wanted to show the entire film, but am running out of time. This helps SO much to summarize all the crucial points!
You want to educate, then get more than one side of the story, and teach your students to keep an open mind. You know damn that all American history books are is propaganda. Think about it.
My dad was a proud Mexican-American who fought in the Pacific and later in Korea. He always described zoot suiters as marijuanos and punks. He said real men were serving their country in its time of need.
@@acx207 even if the mexican-americans DID show the americans an ounce of respect, u americans wouldn’t have showed any of the same respect back EVER ..... so really it wouldn’t hurt a PINCH for them to have had done their own thing for once without any of u complaining abt it, so pack this “respect” bullshit up. 💀
So much more to this story. Hopefully, people will continue to learn more about the injustices that millions of Mexicans and Mexican-Americans have and continue to suffer to this day in the United States.
communism is your friend I see. It will stop all the injustice of individual liberty. What makes Mexicans different from any other human being, their skin color, or their mind? Of course, when we don't know, we can believe anything we want or told to us,----but only the skin color is different, and the skin does not dictate the thoughts of the mind. Propaganda does that. Sue your school.
The suits were first associated with African-Americans in communities such as Harlem,[15] Chicago, and Detroit in the 1930s,[15] but were made popular nationwide by Jazz and Jump Blues musicians in the 1940s. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the word "zoot" probably comes from African American Vernacular English and reduplication of suit. The creation of the zoot suit have been variously attributed to Harold C. Fox, a Chicago clothier and big-band trumpeter;[16] Charles Klein and Vito Bagnato of New York City;[17] Louis Lettes, a Memphis tailor;[18] and Nathan (Toddy) Elkus, a Detroit retailer.The zoot suit originated in African American comedy shows in the 1920s. Comedians such as Pigmeat Markham, Stepin Fetchit, and others would dress in rags or in baggy suits for their comedic routines. This style of baggy suits would later become more stylish over time in urban ghettos. Many tap and Lindy hop dancers would wear loose fitting suits to the clubs and ballrooms. These suits made it much easier to navigate through the dance floor while dancing. Jazz and Jump Blues singers helped popularize the style in the 1930s and 40s. Cab Calloway called them "totally and truly American". The suits were worn mainly by men of color, including a young Malcolm X.[6] During the rationing of World War II, they were criticized as a wasteful use of cloth, wool being rationed then. In 1942, the War Production Board issued restrictions aimed at stopping the sale of zoot suits
It is so hard to find history that is not revised from reality today. So I have to ignore what is said here and just say, I think Zoot Suits were classy. Most wore them to impress the girls no doubt in my mind, (I was a kid too), but if any gangs wore them, they did not get arrested for wearing a Zoot Suit. If the Zoot Suit was to come back into style, is would be among the most classy dress of Americans today IMO.
It’s funny how we are supposed to forget how our people were treated, “it happened along time ago” but say “never forget 9/11” some of our grand parents are still alive from that time(including there’s) and some our grand parents just made it alive by the skin of there teeth. Long story short, our grand parents could have been killed and some of us would not be here today!!
I always have thought soot suits were very classy and in good taste. I think if this happened as described here, it wasn’t because of the suits. I would actually like to see people dress so classy nowadays
California (Califor-nia).....the name comes from Califa or Khalifa... Khalifa is an Arabic name meaning land of islamic rule...lol how many ppl know this fact.
sam iroanya u commented something 12 hours ago and came back and commented something again TWICE four hours later. 💀 I SAID I WAS CONFUSED. can u not read or what ???!!!!! dammm 😫
Kai T ehhh u changed ur subject so it wasn’t specific. & I also said I was confused. My second question was a genuine question that you took out of proportion. anyways have a great day! :)
Yeah my grandfather said that it was discovered when some Mexican teen would be trying to purchase clothing but many white Americans would selling them anything but every lose fitting clothes that didn’t sell. on purpose by the way due to racism.
As a chicana I love the pachuco era. But you left out the fact that the service men raped and beat the pachucas. Not hating just saying esa. Orale viva la raza.
@Antonio Perales del Hierro Yes, after pachucos were attacking sailors in the streets. There were three incidents where soldiers were attacked before they organized and went after the zoot suiters. Now you make it as if you are the victims.
@@liz-wg9ub I know it is hard for people to grasp that there is little black and white in complex human social interactions, and that victim/oppressor narratives are only suitable for the simple minded and/or fanatical ideologues. Aside from the sailors attacked by racista pachucos in the streets, no the sailors rioting were not victims. Aside from the innocent Mexicans caught up in the violence, no the pachuco heroes immortalized in Aztlan murals were not victims either.
I guess my dad was all up in that at Newport beach. He was a Navy CPO and hand to deal with his boys getting crazy over these teenagers. Many of whom would go on to volunteer to fight for their country. He thought the whole thing was just stupid. His words, " trumped up horseshit."
I have very little doubt the truth about these historic "riots" (in which no one was killed) is lost and all anyone will hear from academic lefties is the white racist sailors terrorized poor people of color who just liked nice clothes.
so funny how thousands of these men were on the same page back then and actually had the audacity to do something against these people who hated american culture and american life. the media will never portray mexicans this way but its the absolute truth. nothing has changed with mexicans either. the only thing which has changed is how everyone accepts them now
I think its great they adopted it but they should make a point of crediting African Americans more . they kinda like to act like they invented it without referencing the original.
So...you're sayin....Zoot Suits won in WW2 ? I'm ok with that. Storming the beaches in the Pacific theatre and Normandy in Zoots would have been a sight..
So if pachocos adopted the zoot suits from african americans who inspired the pachuca look? I need to look into this because they also had a style of their own too
@adriana ser so anyone who dies by violence deserves it , does it apply to Holocaust victims too.( you people are really sick) never ever say such a thing again no one deserved the kind of hell service men faced in the Pacific no matter what kind of people they were ,
Are you Mexican American by any chance ? I am 2nd generation Mexican American (Chicano) due to my parents migrating into the U.S. I am curious to find out more people who can relate to my life
@@8enjiochoo u cant relate im 5th generation chicano my family has been in texas till the 1900s and my grandpa was a pachucco in texas and he was in ww2 both my grandpas you're not even close
@@chrisuresti3898 can you speak spanish since you say you are 5th generation? Or was spanish not taught throughout the generations and your mexican culture faded away? lmk
Love the suits but I wouldn’t be able to wear one during the day. Mainly because my body warms up quickly when I walk around and I have zero heat tolerance.
@@seanmc7128 🤣 the Native Americans had a better system but you people have done a really good job at smearing them negatively and taken what they have created an appropriate it for yourselves
@@bestia2.063 you mean the one's who went to war with each other killing each other and stealing each other's land? The one's who would eat human flesh? The one's who raped and murdered on a regular basis?
Zoot Suits & "Oldies/Jazz" are Black American culture which other Americans took up, mainly Italian mobsters & Mexicans. The word "zoot" is a Black American slang. Even on Tom & Jerry "Zoot Suit Cat" tells you who created it. White people NEVER give us credit, but they had to with tjos HISTORY.
Few notes of correction here. Around the 1920s when Women were dressing as "Flappers" and the Roarin SWINGIn' parts of that decade was ahappening, thats when you would have seen traditional suits start to become " zoot" in the african american culture. PEople just dressed fancy to go out, and htings got more austentatious by the 1930s when Cab Calloway kinda did wear sch things here and there. THe rise of modern pimping also spurned a love interest in fine garbs with flash and pizzazz , and the trends also spread to hispanic communities in that decade. It was not until the 1940s when things blew up because of racist anti mexicn/hispanic sentiments with the excuse of rationing fabric, that things cemented themselves more for latino people with the trend of zoot suiting. This was taken to a whole other level with the rise of the Pachuco. THere, you are welcome youtube...>,;,
BUt the whole history of racism against native peopels in the western hemisphere is long and sad, and the treatment of hispanic americans is also fairly long, going back almost 200 years in california.
❤❤❤Evergreen Naomi Hirahara. Great book. 1940. Aki. She returns to California from the Japanese camps which she didn’t want to stay in Chicago. Hammer the zoot suiter I learned about Boyle heights which after war Jewish moved out, because before that, that was the only place they could live. The book has a map which you can visit locations which are still standing. PS. Use Little Tokyo Metro to visit all locations Use Metro line and visit 2nd and broadway and Disney center. Frank Martinez Downey California
It's funny how u grow up with a certain cultural lore.. I always for whatever reason knew of the zootsuit riots... When I was like 21 some white girl asked me to dance to the famed song.. I was like WTF in disbelief. Perception yaknow.. We're all just people and with different ideas n style. education n Respect is my point
you mean the war that created the filthy satanic modern world? too bad more americans didn’t protest it. but they all mutilate their infant boys genitals so what more could be expected of them
Hispanics died in battle and fought for our country. White people made the suits. Delivered them to stores. Where white people sold them and profited. They were sold at stores owned by white people.
@Techn9cian123 In Spring of 1945 I was almost seven years of age, living at home in Casa Blanca, California with my grandparents who raised me. While crashed, at 1 or 2 am I heard voices in the living room, got up and walked there to see what was up. As I walked in I saw my grandmother and three or four people that I didn't know. When I noticed my nineteen year old aunt Lupe Fierro, she was collapsing in a faint. I learned later that her betrothed, Ismael "Smiley" Villegas had been killed in action in the Pacific War against Japan, practically on his 20th birthday. He had wiped out five Japanese machine gun nests, and was going for a sixth when he was killed. He was posthumously awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Pachucos Could Be From Anywhere In Tha Country Actually Because A Pachuco Was A Mexican American Who Wore Zoot Suits & Talked Tha Caló Slang Just Like Tha African American Talked Tha Jive Slang & Were Called Hep Cats But Yesss Tha Slang That Pachucos Used Came From El Paso & Expended To Califas
they arent but you can think that . you see there is evidence of them prior to that in Harlem explain that ? other then your a racist who cant give credit .
These comments are from 1 and 2 years ago but the ones saying the suits aren't Mexican American culture are wrong its still their culture regardless of what yall think
Dude Black Jazz artists created the word "Zoot" .....ya'll worse than Puerto Ricans claiming they created Hip Hop. You even listened to Jazz & Oldies played by Black artists.
@@Soufside_Slim zoot is a English word from British slang zoot means marijuana cannabis cigarette joint just look up the word zoo in British slang that teaches you and shows you the truth you blacks have been lying to yourself thinking that created everything when you're in the end still everything
The zoot suits were followed by the amwf, lmwf relstionships too. They target the colored males and the white females are considered shamed as floozy. Yet the community did not yield👍
Cali made it a staple but come on no mention of El Paso Texas and Juarez Mexico there's a reason El Paso is known as El Chuco dig a little deeper the southwest had a big part in it.
Devin Williams so blacks used Cortez, high socks, lowriders , bandannas, use tequila in theyre music videos, use Mexican drugs like heroin, back then brick weed, cocaine should we continue ?
@TheBully323 ChallengerGang Everything you named is region specific, our culture is worldwide. I’ve never seen anyone outside of Cali in a Lowrider. I don’t know any rapper that drinks Tequila lmao, I never even hear that word unless a Mexican is saying it. You guys didn’t invent wearing bandanas. As for the drugs, are you really going to compare doing drugs to a trend? Those drugs come from a plant which is nature and despite that, Mexicans weren’t the ones who discovered these drugs. If you want to go that route, I can easily list black inventions that you use every day.
Blacks didn’t Started nothing there were no black gangsters back in the days it was not such thing as black fashion Mexicans have always had Mexican fashion Mexican Lowriders Mexican gangsters Alex copied Mexicans and how to act like gangsters
@@vibratingjelly7834 thats because it's true... it was our culture to dress fashionable and it was the culture of the whites to oppress and attack the non conformity of our ancestors. did you even watch the video? lmao
And the VERY FSMOUS UK BAND KNOWN AS THE WHO!!!! WERE PREVIOISLY KNOWN AS THE HIGH NUMBERS SANG A UK MOD SONG CALLED THE ZOOT SUIT !!!! Just saying !! Watch ilt I dare you not to move/Dance !!! go on hall Edit spelling my hands!! I'm old
Mexican American wore their father suits to impress women.Same with low riders get the facts straight.white fence East los 1930s love jazz but it had none to do with la raza
Mmm, pues la verdad no se cual moda estaba peor la de ""zoot suit"" o la de los ""sagging pants"" .....que feos gustos adquiere uno en los Estados Unidos.
@@Tomes23 Creo que tienes razón, en México se les conocía a los sagging pants, como los pantalones de Cantinflas, por el famoso comediante que siempre vestía así sus pantalones, igual y los gringos le copiaron su ¨estilo¨. :)
Well It's Debatle Since It's Hard To EXACTLY Pin Point Where It Began But Tha Zoot Suits Chicanos Wore Were A Lot Different From What Tha African American Were Wearing
@@guadalupenieto6775 It is still revised history and like all history today, we have no idea what all the reality is. As long as "we do not know", we are free to believe anything we want.
@@vibratingjelly7834 You can be white black or Asian or what ever you are? You are a immigrant to our indigenous CONTINENT OF CEMANAHAC... Not the so call AMERICA...
Great summary. I am a history teacher and wanted to show the entire film, but am running out of time. This helps SO much to summarize all the crucial points!
You want to educate, then get more than one side of the story, and teach your students to keep an open mind. You know damn that all American history books are is propaganda. Think about it.
Lol, no wonder public education is in the shape it's in today.
@@emmanuelgracia4766 That includes the side of the sailors.
"They were pachucos, zoot suiters, and proud of it."
Disrespectful during the war years. You don't get respect if you dont show any.
americancitizenX are you being serious?
@@acx207 they protested a country that didn't want them, that is their right
My dad was a proud Mexican-American who fought in the Pacific and later in Korea. He always described zoot suiters as marijuanos and punks. He said real men were serving their country in its time of need.
@@acx207 even if the mexican-americans DID show the americans an ounce of respect, u americans wouldn’t have showed any of the same respect back EVER ..... so really it wouldn’t hurt a PINCH for them to have had done their own thing for once without any of u complaining abt it, so pack this “respect” bullshit up. 💀
1:54 they are dresed so well, those clothes look so good
All these documentaries always forget el Paso Tx Chuco Town . Thats where chicano started the pachuco style and migrated to los angeles
what's the pachuco style?
Jesse James stfu
Kai T 😂
@@kait4414 is Jazz influenced by Blues?
Simon que si
So much more to this story. Hopefully, people will continue to learn more about the injustices that millions of Mexicans and Mexican-Americans have and continue to suffer to this day in the United States.
communism is your friend I see. It will stop all the injustice of individual liberty. What makes Mexicans different from any other human being, their skin color, or their mind? Of course, when we don't know, we can believe anything we want or told to us,----but only the skin color is different, and the skin does not dictate the thoughts of the mind. Propaganda does that. Sue your school.
@@EarthSurferUSA bruh typed a lot of words to say nothing
I had no idea of these Zoot suit riots in Los Angeles in the 40's. Mexican Americans were targeted for wearing Zoot suits. Insane
The suits were first associated with African-Americans in communities such as Harlem,[15] Chicago, and Detroit in the 1930s,[15] but were made popular nationwide by Jazz and Jump Blues musicians in the 1940s. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the word "zoot" probably comes from African American Vernacular English and reduplication of suit. The creation of the zoot suit have been variously attributed to Harold C. Fox, a Chicago clothier and big-band trumpeter;[16] Charles Klein and Vito Bagnato of New York City;[17] Louis Lettes, a Memphis tailor;[18] and Nathan (Toddy) Elkus, a Detroit retailer.The zoot suit originated in African American comedy shows in the 1920s. Comedians such as Pigmeat Markham, Stepin Fetchit, and others would dress in rags or in baggy suits for their comedic routines. This style of baggy suits would later become more stylish over time in urban ghettos. Many tap and Lindy hop dancers would wear loose fitting suits to the clubs and ballrooms. These suits made it much easier to navigate through the dance floor while dancing. Jazz and Jump Blues singers helped popularize the style in the 1930s and 40s. Cab Calloway called them "totally and truly American". The suits were worn mainly by men of color, including a young Malcolm X.[6] During the rationing of World War II, they were criticized as a wasteful use of cloth, wool being rationed then. In 1942, the War Production Board issued restrictions aimed at stopping the sale of zoot suits
But it was created by a white men named Harold c fox like you said so it still doesn't belong to black culture
Love this!! My Abuelo would travel from Texas to visit his sisters in Los Angeles n the 1940s and he use to say he wore these suits too!!
This fashion was popularized by black Americans a decade before any Mexican put one on.
Mexicans wore it different
They literally said this in the video bro.
what are you trying to prove?
But why don't you say the name of the man who invented and created this fashion style oh I forgot it was a white man by the name of Harold C fox
@@IssacLemus-mk8bk Technically the commenter said "popularized", not "created".There is a difference.
It is so hard to find history that is not revised from reality today. So I have to ignore what is said here and just say, I think Zoot Suits were classy. Most wore them to impress the girls no doubt in my mind, (I was a kid too), but if any gangs wore them, they did not get arrested for wearing a Zoot Suit. If the Zoot Suit was to come back into style, is would be among the most classy dress of Americans today IMO.
I'm proud to be Mexican american
Damn right, do not be ashamed, have pride and embrace that fact and own it like no tomorrow
That's cool congrats but u do know black Americans popularized zoot suits?
@@toreano3160What year?
@@gustavoaguirre000 Malcom X wore zoot suits it was apart of black culture on the eastcoast originally
@@gustavoaguirre000 between 1930s- 1940s
It’s funny how we are supposed to forget how our people were treated, “it happened along time ago” but say “never forget 9/11” some of our grand parents are still alive from that time(including there’s) and some our grand parents just made it alive by the skin of there teeth. Long story short, our grand parents could have been killed and some of us would not be here today!!
Ok, what are we supposed to do about it? Just constantly create racial divide? Yeah, that's not going to help.
Drue Just just remember and not make the same mistakes again. That’s all.
Rich 91 a lot of them did
Shouldn'tve paraded around in zoot suits during war times when fabric was limited commodity.
Lee Stone buuuh okaaay
Black Americans popularized zoot suits not mexicans.
Fr it was black people on the east coast that invented them the Mexicans liked the style so copied it 😂😂
Shut yo mayatesK ass up Mexicans run y'all in and out the pen
@@CrazyK-sm5xflol tacos stay in their fantasy
be fr yall havent invented nothing but degeneracy
yall act like yall invented everything... yet your community stays the way it does....
I always have thought soot suits were very classy and in good taste. I think if this happened as described here, it wasn’t because of the suits. I would actually like to see people dress so classy nowadays
Love this I also love mi gente
California (Califor-nia).....the name comes from Califa or Khalifa... Khalifa is an Arabic name meaning land of islamic rule...lol how many ppl know this fact.
Black culture...ZOOT SUITS
"Where first popularized by jazz musicians in the 1940s"? Pachucos were wearing tacuches in the 30s.
@sam iroanya how do I know? I read, you know...books. Rap is garbage, it's destroyed the minds of generations. You all can keep all the credit.
sam iroanya u commented something 12 hours ago and came back and commented something again TWICE four hours later. 💀 I SAID I WAS CONFUSED. can u not read or what ???!!!!! dammm 😫
Kai T ehhh u changed ur subject so it wasn’t specific. & I also said I was confused. My second question was a genuine question that you took out of proportion. anyways have a great day! :)
Yeah my grandfather said that it was discovered when some Mexican teen would be trying to purchase clothing but many white Americans would selling them anything but every lose fitting clothes that didn’t sell. on purpose by the way due to racism.
bro jazz goes back to the 30s, cab calloway, the person she mentioned in this video is mostly from the 30s
I love mi gente! Chicana and proud
Is african american culture
@@eriveltonsantos5039 how if it was a white men named Harold c fox who created that fashion clown
@@IssacLemus-mk8bk It wasn't a white man who created this specific style of pants. He was born in black jazz communities.
I remember white fence. They always had those suits on. And another gang cherry ville was always in bright flashy suits.
I love my fellow chicanos
Gracias
Is african american culture, not chicano
As a chicana I love the pachuco era. But you left out the fact that the service men raped and beat the pachucas. Not hating just saying esa. Orale viva la raza.
@Antonio Perales del Hierro Yes, after pachucos were attacking sailors in the streets. There were three incidents where soldiers were attacked before they organized and went after the zoot suiters. Now you make it as if you are the victims.
Fake victim
@@nerthus4685 wait a minute so you're saying that white sailors were actually the victims.....in the 1940s?
@@liz-wg9ub I know it is hard for people to grasp that there is little black and white in complex human social interactions, and that victim/oppressor narratives are only suitable for the simple minded and/or fanatical ideologues.
Aside from the sailors attacked by racista pachucos in the streets, no the sailors rioting were not victims. Aside from the innocent Mexicans caught up in the violence, no the pachuco heroes immortalized in Aztlan murals were not victims either.
thank you for putting this so condensed.
The Dun Bar Hotel in L.A on 81 street and Central avenue is where it first appeared in Los Angeles.
Funny how every single one of these they fail to mention italians also wore these
They said chicago and new yorkim sure they ment italians.
Sweet, so true, piasano, Mafia bros too.
I guess my dad was all up in that at Newport beach. He was a Navy CPO and hand to deal with his boys getting crazy over these teenagers. Many of whom would go on to volunteer to fight for their country. He thought the whole thing was just stupid. His words, " trumped up horseshit."
I have very little doubt the truth about these historic "riots" (in which no one was killed) is lost and all anyone will hear from academic lefties is the white racist sailors terrorized poor people of color who just liked nice clothes.
so funny how thousands of these men were on the same page back then and actually had the audacity to do something against these people who hated american culture and american life. the media will never portray mexicans this way but its the absolute truth. nothing has changed with mexicans either. the only thing which has changed is how everyone accepts them now
I think its great they adopted it but they should make a point of crediting African Americans more . they kinda like to act like they invented it without referencing the original.
Because they are culture vulture
African Americans didn't create that fashion tho it was a white men named Harold c fox who created
So...you're sayin....Zoot Suits won in WW2 ? I'm ok with that. Storming the beaches in the Pacific theatre and Normandy in Zoots would have been a sight..
So if pachocos adopted the zoot suits from african americans who inspired the pachuca look? I need to look into this because they also had a style of their own too
"vipers" from the jazz clubs.... Before Marijuana was banned and illegal
Funny how no one screams "cultural appropriation" unless it's white people that do it.
Pachucos been out since 1900 way before jazz musicians wearing zoot suits in 1930s
@@Aldine281 mexican have always borrowed from Black culture and yall still doing it today by calling yourselves The N word
THE "PACHUCOZ" DID. INSPIRED THE "PACHUCAZ"
If they were going to fight in the pacific theater I wouldn't go so far to say they got away with impunity
they probably got what they deserved
@adriana ser so anyone who dies by violence deserves it , does it apply to Holocaust victims too.( you people are really sick) never ever say such a thing again no one deserved the kind of hell service men faced in the Pacific no matter what kind of people they were ,
LOL. None of the people in this thread except for me, you and maybe a couple of others care.
This low key reminds me of westside story
Isn't that movie about puerto ricans tho?
@@kristuferkrunowski4739
True, but alot of people get us mixed up but many people back then were uneducated and saw all us Hispanics as Mexicans
mi gente and proud of it our genz familia need to look at this these younger gererations need to see this
Very informative. Thanks.
Hog wash.
My ancestors were targeted because they chose to dress differently or assume d as lowlifes...wow
Are you Mexican American by any chance ? I am 2nd generation Mexican American (Chicano) due to my parents migrating into the U.S. I am curious to find out more people who can relate to my life
@Burns me up. who's targeting pocs now though?
They were targeted for not being white. Not much different than today
@@8enjiochoo u cant relate im 5th generation chicano my family has been in texas till the 1900s and my grandpa was a pachucco in texas and he was in ww2 both my grandpas you're not even close
@@chrisuresti3898 can you speak spanish since you say you are 5th generation? Or was spanish not taught throughout the generations and your mexican culture faded away? lmk
Love the suits but I wouldn’t be able to wear one during the day. Mainly because my body warms up quickly when I walk around and I have zero heat tolerance.
if the suits were available on the market to be purchased, why would people accuse these youths of being unpatriotic for wearing them?
American Me on netflix gives you the real story.
What she said is the PG-13 version
After the USA is gone, as you believe any trash said against this once great nation----you will miss it and all the individual rights we once had.
@@EarthSurferUSA do you honestly think no other country will come up with individual rights after the u.s. is gone?
@@bestia2.063 nope
@@seanmc7128 🤣 the Native Americans had a better system but you people have done a really good job at smearing them negatively and taken what they have created an appropriate it for yourselves
@@bestia2.063 you mean the one's who went to war with each other killing each other and stealing each other's land? The one's who would eat human flesh? The one's who raped and murdered on a regular basis?
Zoot Suits & "Oldies/Jazz" are Black American culture which other Americans took up, mainly Italian mobsters & Mexicans. The word "zoot" is a Black American slang. Even on Tom & Jerry "Zoot Suit Cat" tells you who created it. White people NEVER give us credit, but they had to with tjos HISTORY.
Zoot suit were made by white man
Blacks wore them baggy but
The way each race wore them
they were differently styled
@@MariaGasca-Reyeszoot suits were made by a black man. What kind of lie are you talking about?
@@rbgboxing4442 Hal Fox was Russian
wow its good to hear that filipinos are once part of this style zoot suit..
Is it just me, or does a zoot suit sound like something a Dr. Suess character would wear? 😅😅
Few notes of correction here. Around the 1920s when Women were dressing as "Flappers" and the Roarin SWINGIn' parts of that decade was ahappening, thats when you would have seen traditional suits start to become " zoot" in the african american culture. PEople just dressed fancy to go out, and htings got more austentatious by the 1930s when Cab Calloway kinda did wear sch things here and there. THe rise of modern pimping also spurned a love interest in fine garbs with flash and pizzazz , and the trends also spread to hispanic communities in that decade. It was not until the 1940s when things blew up because of racist anti mexicn/hispanic sentiments with the excuse of rationing fabric, that things cemented themselves more for latino people with the trend of zoot suiting. This was taken to a whole other level with the rise of the Pachuco. THere, you are welcome youtube...>,;,
BUt the whole history of racism against native peopels in the western hemisphere is long and sad, and the treatment of hispanic americans is also fairly long, going back almost 200 years in california.
@@screwthenet Hispanics = Spanish from Spain
Latino's = The America's and caribean islands.
@@ajortiz377 history
I know this is a old comment but do you happen to have the resources in this info?
Zoot suits came from a white men named Harold c fox who created it for black and Latinos
I’m chicana and my older sis is chicana to my parents are from Mexico my dad from tj and my mom from Mexico City
You're not chicana if your parents are from Mexico lol ur grandparents have to have been born in america to been puro chicano ur still mojada
You are a human being with your own brain to me.
Great job!
song at the beginning?
Surprise, surprise, surprise! The LAPD did nothing. What a shocker!
These zoots bois looking like Jojo Villains
1:03 I'm sure this applied to the robber barons (aka the 1%) of the time, too 😼
Is it today hoodies worn with sunglasses instead which tends to arrouse suspicion now instead of Zoot suites?
lets bring this style back bois
Just bought me a Zoot Suit.... Hope i don't get arrested!!
Shortly after he was arrested on the spot and died in jail. So long partner rip rip :(
VibratingJelly 😳..😔
Only the worst dressed lol stay up zooter😎🇮🇹🇺🇸🇮🇹
❤❤❤Evergreen Naomi Hirahara. Great book. 1940. Aki. She returns to California from the Japanese camps which she didn’t want to stay in Chicago. Hammer the zoot suiter I learned about Boyle heights which after war Jewish moved out, because before that, that was the only place they could live. The book has a map which you can visit locations which are still standing. PS. Use Little Tokyo Metro to visit all locations Use Metro line and visit 2nd and broadway and Disney center. Frank Martinez Downey California
Can you say "sanitized and whitewashed?"
John F. Kennedy go back across your pond mate!
@John F. Kennedy Whites came to the America's, some call it colonialism, the rest of the world recognizes it as genocide.
@@D33Lux No No! It was called Conquest!! The smartest strongest and toughest MEN won! Sorry I know it hurts but we won you lost! Cry and deal with it!
You mean to call them "insecured Morons" right?
Nothing has changed
The O.Gs!... Proud to be a Chicano!
It's funny how u grow up with a certain cultural lore.. I always for whatever reason knew of the zootsuit riots... When I was like 21 some white girl asked me to dance to the famed song.. I was like WTF in disbelief. Perception yaknow.. We're all just people and with different ideas n style. education n Respect is my point
We are all individuals with our own brain, and the color of our skin does not dictate the thoughts of our minds. Propaganda does that.
Wait, so they refused to help out with the war effort like all white Americans were doing? I’m sure that caused a lot of resentment.
don’t worry EVERYONE got drafted by the end of 1942
you mean the war that created the filthy satanic modern world? too bad more americans didn’t protest it. but they all mutilate their infant boys genitals so what more could be expected of them
Shhhh nobody wants to hear this 😂
Hispanics died in battle and fought for our country. White people made the suits.
Delivered them to stores. Where white people sold them and profited.
They were sold at stores owned by white people.
@Techn9cian123 In Spring of 1945 I was almost seven years of age, living at home in Casa Blanca, California with my grandparents who raised me. While crashed, at 1 or 2 am I heard voices in the living room, got up and walked there to see what was up. As I walked in I saw my grandmother and three or four people that I didn't know. When I noticed my nineteen year old aunt Lupe Fierro, she was collapsing in a faint. I learned later that her betrothed, Ismael "Smiley" Villegas had been killed in action in the Pacific War against Japan, practically on his 20th birthday. He had wiped out five Japanese machine gun nests, and was going for a sixth when he was killed. He was posthumously awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.
I didn't know it started with African Americans.
It didn't, it started with pimps in Mexico City.
Lmao everything started with us but people be taking "credit"
@@theuberman7170 your ego is hurt so bad, that you're going to just blatantly lie now?
@@mimi143luv FO REAL
mr knocc down a flower chongo killa flower killa nobody wanna be like y’all
The Mexican American Pachuco movement began in El Paso, Texas. Thanks.
Everyone knows pachucos are from juarez/chuco town
Pachucos Could Be From Anywhere In Tha Country Actually Because A Pachuco Was A Mexican American Who Wore Zoot Suits
& Talked Tha Caló Slang
Just Like Tha African American Talked Tha Jive Slang & Were Called Hep Cats
But Yesss Tha Slang That Pachucos Used Came From El Paso
& Expended To Califas
they arent but you can think that . you see there is evidence of them prior to that in Harlem explain that ? other then your a racist who cant give credit .
The baggy jeans of yesteryears
These comments are from 1 and 2 years ago but the ones saying the suits aren't Mexican American culture are wrong its still their culture regardless of what yall think
We needed a free market to make them. It started in the USA. It is part of USA culture and if you ask me,---I think they were classy.
@@EarthSurferUSA Its still Chicano
@@user-fk2te6xe5j Chicano = Mexican American = American. The end.
@@vh9network lol, wrong
Nah, Mexican appropriated from black culture.
Funny how you liberals never scream cultural appropriation unless it's white people that do it.
Zoot Suits first became popular in Texas! Although alot of people think it started in California.
No they didn't......lol
Dude Black Jazz artists created the word "Zoot" .....ya'll worse than Puerto Ricans claiming they created Hip Hop. You even listened to Jazz & Oldies played by Black artists.
Lmao yall never stop lying!
@@Soufside_Slim
Everyone knows Rap hip hop is from
The Blacks and pliz don't compare
La Raza to Puerto Ricans not the same
In geo political culture
@@Soufside_Slim zoot is a English word from British slang zoot means marijuana cannabis cigarette joint just look up the word zoo in British slang that teaches you and shows you the truth you blacks have been lying to yourself thinking that created everything when you're in the end still everything
Just another chapter of the shameful past of America.
That's right, ignore all the good. Focus only on the bad. Hate, hate everything and everyone. Divide people, hate others and vote democrat.
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 idiot
Breaks my heart this is hard to hear
Tom brought me here
i thought i was the only one.
that episode of zoot cat
What's jumping, chicks?
The zoot suits were followed by the amwf, lmwf relstionships too. They target the colored males and the white females are considered shamed as floozy. Yet the community did not yield👍
SMOOOOKIN!
Cali made it a staple but come on no mention of El Paso Texas and Juarez Mexico there's a reason El Paso is known as El Chuco dig a little deeper the southwest had a big part in it.
Fun fact: its still a crime to wear a zoot suit in los angeles
What are you talking about?
@@jl_finesse its still illegal to wear one on LA, but it isn’t enforced
They’ve been cosplaying us since the beginning.
Thats boas af two wear that knowing you where going to be a traget they had balls back then.
It was their skin that made them a target.....
@@xenshia No it wasn't. It was the suit. Liberals make every issue about race.
Kind of like people who refuse to wear a mask or get vaccinated today.
Also it started in Texas from mexican immigrants.
Established in el paso tx by juarez immigrants
Nope, it was started by blacks like she said. Mexican immigrants didn’t have style like this. Blacks create every trend.
Devin Williams so blacks used Cortez, high socks, lowriders , bandannas, use tequila in theyre music videos, use Mexican drugs like heroin, back then brick weed, cocaine should we continue ?
@TheBully323 ChallengerGang Everything you named is region specific, our culture is worldwide. I’ve never seen anyone outside of Cali in a Lowrider. I don’t know any rapper that drinks Tequila lmao, I never even hear that word unless a Mexican is saying it. You guys didn’t invent wearing bandanas. As for the drugs, are you really going to compare doing drugs to a trend? Those drugs come from a plant which is nature and despite that, Mexicans weren’t the ones who discovered these drugs. If you want to go that route, I can easily list black inventions that you use every day.
@@Endsomniac preach my brotha!
Stilo born in East LOS !!!!
Yeah right! And Lowriders were started by Germans! 🚘 🇩🇪 ✋🏻
Gee - I wonder why that happened? 🤣🤣🤣
To be honest black people started It all so todos de ustedes ya saben que es putus....black power💪💯🤣
Blacks didn’t Started nothing there were no black gangsters back in the days it was not such thing as black fashion Mexicans have always had Mexican fashion Mexican Lowriders Mexican gangsters Alex copied Mexicans and how to act like gangsters
Pachucos came in 1900 blacks started too wear zuit suits in 1930s so you need too learnt he truth
You tacos are pathetic@@castlewoods4753
@@Aldine281culture vultures
Love the Hispanics of la in the zoot suits,og
So whites being whites
And what color are you?
Seems like a racially charged statement.
@@vibratingjelly7834 thats because it's true... it was our culture to dress fashionable and it was the culture of the whites to oppress and attack the non conformity of our ancestors. did you even watch the video? lmao
@@tomflores1000 oppressing others is a culture? So what like cancel culture now?
Sounds like you're being awfully racist.
Huh... To think that you could've gone to jail by wearing the wrong attire in the so called "land of freedom."
Do pachucos even exist today?
Like HOW it couldn't be about us. No one was killed??? Pachuco style? This is so dang racist
Nope. Nothing racist here. Move along perpetually offended racist.
Nothing has changed. Those were deemed as the "thugs" of the 40s. In the 90s they had those gangsters popularized once again by musicians but rappers.
BLACK CULTURE...JUST LIKE TODAY. WE WERE STARTING STYLES N TERENDS BACK THEN....
And the VERY FSMOUS UK BAND KNOWN AS THE WHO!!!! WERE PREVIOISLY KNOWN AS THE HIGH NUMBERS SANG A UK MOD SONG CALLED THE ZOOT SUIT !!!! Just saying !! Watch ilt I dare you not to move/Dance !!! go on hall
Edit spelling my hands!! I'm old
Mexican American wore their father suits to impress women.Same with low riders get the facts straight.white fence East los 1930s love jazz but it had none to do with la raza
No pics of jazz musicians in LA in cuffs
Viva La Raza!!
EL CHUCO TEJAS THATS WERE IT REALLY STARTED THEN IT WENT TO CALIFORNIA LOTS OF PEOPLE DONT KNOW THAT
Woooah woooah!!!! YOU SKIPPED THE MOST IMPORTANT PART!!! WHERE IT ORIGINATED FROM !! EL. CHUCO EL PASO TEXAS!
You spelled Harlem, NY wrong
@@stevens7525culture vultures
Yeah, not racially motivated from the sound of it. More like motivated out of a sense of joint struggle and their rejection of it.
You being sarcastic or stupid
@@dannyhenderson308 Yea and not "racial" just RACIST.
@@Tadzio5050 Nope. Nothing racist, but thanks for trying.
Yup. Just liberal media trying to rewrite history again.
Mexican youths aka teenagers
It wasn't about the suit, it was blatant racism towards Mexican Americans only, not blacks interestingly enough
They were Americans!!
Not mexicans!!
Mexican American*
@@Diego-ye9lq Does that make me Polish, Canadian, Scottish American? Nope, I am only a citizen of the USA. American.
America is on Mexican soil
when the media was based
Do remember that most of those servicemen sailed to war and was killed so we could be free.
And this excuses their behaviour?
And so they decided that the people they fought for shouldn't have freedom?
You mean after their ancestors enslaved my people in the first place
@@gtrkuro2644 Nah, more like when your ancestors SOLD their own people in the first place.
S/o to all my chicanos 🇲🇽
It started with pimps in Mexico City. in the late 1800s.
Wait what?
I know lowriders started in mexico
Both of yall don’t know what tf you talkin bout
Looked like dorks lol
thousands of zoot suiters lost there lives from military police firing squads conducted on the beaches
Fake news
@Channel its the truth
Nope
Mmm, pues la verdad no se cual moda estaba peor la de ""zoot suit"" o la de los ""sagging pants"" .....que feos gustos adquiere uno en los Estados Unidos.
Los sagging pants, pero por ahi va tambien! Saludos!
@@Tomes23 Creo que tienes razón, en México se les conocía a los sagging pants, como los pantalones de Cantinflas, por el famoso comediante que siempre vestía así sus pantalones, igual y los gringos le copiaron su ¨estilo¨. :)
Los mexicanos no hacen sagging
Those Pachucos completely deserved it
This is inaccurate. It's a Mexican creation.
It's Not
Well It's Debatle Since It's Hard To EXACTLY Pin Point Where It Began But Tha Zoot Suits Chicanos Wore Were A Lot Different From What Tha African American Were Wearing
@@guadalupenieto6775 It is still revised history and like all history today, we have no idea what all the reality is. As long as "we do not know", we are free to believe anything we want.
@@EarthSurferUSA It started in texas theres even a place they call Chucko town
Tacos are major culture vultures
We Chicano's are patriotic to our culture! The snake an eagle that's in the Mexican flag! Not to the 52 stars or your red white blue Not our culture!
Oh geez for a moment we thought you actually liked it here.
@@vibratingjelly7834 We people of Anahuac have been here in the south-western states way before you Europeans arrived in our continent.
@@tloquenahuaque3910 ima take that as a statement for someone else reading this because I ain't European but thanks for assuming G.
@@vibratingjelly7834 You can be white black or Asian or what ever you are? You are a immigrant to our indigenous CONTINENT OF CEMANAHAC... Not the so call AMERICA...
so maybe don’t live in america and talk trash about it’s flag, move back to mexico