What REALLY Happened To Michael + More (Q&A)
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In todays video, Christian sits down for another Q&A! We've torn through the comments section of past videos and put together a short list of the most asked questions on the channel, ranging from favorite watches, the future of T&H, an update on Michael and Sam and so much more. Enjoy!
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If I’m honest I’ve stopped watching so regularly since Michael stopped being on the show.
Nothing against you or Sam but just think it was the banter between the two of you which sold the show to me and made me come back for more.
dude same.
Me to
Same. Even the new intro music doesn’t hit the same anymore.
I still watch but definitely liked the banter. We buy and wear watches for the story as well as their beauty and mechanical wonders. My Seiko 5 Sport is all story and definitely worth more than my Daytona, (steel/gold so relatively cheap).
Same
Got to admit, the reason i subscribed, was that when Michael was on the show it had something i hadn't seen in other watch channels ... Humor and fun. All other watch channels are stuffy and serious. This channel had a relaxed vibe that made me smile. Analysis is a little to common in the RUclips watch scene. It was fun to relax and smile to Michael and Christian's dynamic, while still learning about watches.
Definitely find myself watching a lot less now, unfortunately.
You kinda nailed it. In fact it was right after I commented about how hilarious and perfect I felt their intro was that Michael left. Christian doing a spit take and Michael making a weird funny gesture, cracked me up and got me ready for a fun back and forth between friends.
I love watches but honestly watched this for Michael and the ancillary watch talk. It was almost like a funny podcast that happened to talk about watches
I honestly like a cohost. I was annoyed when Christian was gone on vacation so many times and it was just Michael. Talking about something is better when it’s with a couple people.
@@mikej5959 agreed. Another unique element not seen in most watch channels. Most channels are one person talking to the audience. It was refreshing to watch 2 hosts chatting and joking together.
Stuffy…insert Hodinkee with wife swapping. More that’s stuffy annd silent conversation in a white walker room!
I loved the chemistry between Christian and Michael, he was a balancing force and brought the best out of Christian, while also keeping his ego in check.
I think a monthly banter episode with Michael guest starring would be a great thing. I'm still here for the concise(ish) watch chat though.
I get that you want to focus on the "educational aspect". But I personally loved the banter and the vibe of just 2 watch nerds talking about watches and just vibing. There's one too many educational chanels if you want to call them so imo. But then again to each their own. Just here to say I miss the dynamic which is what got me hooked to your channel!!
Agree!
yeh they have great knowledge, the conversation is the fun part, then both of them would drop little knowledge nuggets organically in discussion, i enjoyed it.
This
Exactly, I think to his point though - Christian is a strong enough host on his own to keep it real and bring me back for content. But what Christian sometimes neglects to acknowledge is that yes, there are SO many YT channels with educational horology content that is concise and professionally filmed. I come to Theo & Harris for a personal sit down with friends to talk watches and to feel "real". I don't think Michael stepping away from the channel has changed anything about the ethos of the brand. I do however find it ironic that Christian repeats his desire to film the "content he wants to film" and still reminds us that it was our comments that impacted the way they wanted to film. I don't know I'm just talking out loud, bottom line is I know how business works and I've been incredibly grateful for the dynamic Anna, Michael, & Sam have all brought to the table and I look forward to see the next level of T&H evolution. - Cal
Completely agree. I didn't come to the channel to get "educated". I came to relax and enjoy what I supposed were a couple of friends discussing watches and life. Also...I don't watch every freaking video, so please don't get upset that people haven't heard why Michael isn't on the show anymore.
He ain’t wrong, Sam took a beating in the comments. Michael is the OG as far as a wingman goes.
And I don’t know why. I think everybody was just attached to Michael and Christian I don’t think it was right.
No cohost is just kind of lame though. He’s just rushing through the topics because he doesn’t want down time. That’s why I feel like very few podcasts do well when it’s just one person. Some of them do really well not many.
I liked Mike.
Ana was an OG, yet i don´t remember if Christian ever said what happened with her
@@jsanchezpbecause nobody really cared. With Michael it’s a different story…
I met Christian at a Tudor event at London Jewelers. He was so gracious and kind, a real human being. We talked watches and he even engaged with my client at the event. I really wish him continued success.
I don’t know if you watch BBCs Top Gear in the past but I think seeing what happened to that show sorr of explains why we appreciate you and Michael’s chemistry so much. That show had millions of average viewers during the Clarkson, Hammond & May era precisely because of the combination of incredible banter and entertaining informative content.
We miss both Anna & Michael because they come across as real people.
That genuine connection balances out the content & it’s hard to “manufacture”.
Indeed they were the perfect balance to Christian's douchiness.
I think you hit the nail in the head as to why we miss both Michael and Anna. They came across as ordinary people who don't live in the Hamptons, who don't travel to Europe every year, who don't pay three figures for dinner at a restaurant. In other words, they came across as people most of us can relate to. They made Christian come across as more accessible and relatable. Plus, they were both more calm and didn't talk like a 1940s Hollywood actor. They made Christian calm down too, so you could actually understand him without snorting an 8 ball first.
No offense Christian! ❤
@@astorbeijer9424 I said basically the same thing only it got deleted. I love cracking on Christian because I thought he could take it and it was all in good fun. Anna and then Michael were the perfect foil for Christian being a total (insert feminine hygiene product here), a Yin to his Yang, a Teller to his Penn. Friends being friends on camera is fun to watch.
I also would like to add that these reasons could also by why Sam wasn’t accepted by the T&H community initially. That first impression of Sam felt like a rich buddy of Christian that has the money for big watch purchases?
I have warmed too Sam more recently but it’s still not exactly the right dynamic of classic T&H
Nah yeah he’s a doiche dawg
What happened to Anna? That's the real question.
As a long time viewer, it's great that you had co-hosts that gave their input but it's you Christian that I tune in for with your thoughts and opinions. I always appreciate your content and look forward to what you have to say.
This!
She ded
Anna and Michael have been married for years. They have 3 children, one dog and moved to Missouri.
@@SHONUFF772 Man,is this real ?
I would just imagine Christian and Anna were in relationship….
@@takayuki.Maths.Art.ScienceAnna got a job somewhere else. She's still Christian's friend
13:22 The Micheal Answer we are all looking for.
We Love you both, We miss you Mike
No we dont , Bring Mike back . This channel is for Nepo kids and Men Who like Men now . . . . used to be great now its just LGBTQRSTUVXyz +
Thank You
Michael has 2 other channels, The Iron Snail and The Tale of The Iron Snail they just are not watch content.
Thank you and God bless you.
@@bigbodykarate6403 oh you poor poor thing, how do you survive knowing there could be man around the next corner? 😂
9 years already? Times flies man I remember when you started and it was just you, a camera and filming in the yard. I’ll be sticking around because at the end of the day, we all have our ups and downs but I feel that the content is still great man. Keep it up Christian 👍🏻
Christian you are nice to me. I remembered in 2019, I wanted to buy my first automatic luxury watch and reached out to you for some guidance. You responded with very helpful advice.
I love the analysis, I just miss the laughs. It breaks it up nicely and makes it all more enjoyable. Hopefully we can have both again one day. Hey, maybe a Michael hand puppet!!😂
A monthly video with Michael would be perfect
It's no longer Theo and Harris without Theo. 😪
I always thought of him as Harris tho
@@thamadflavaha! Same.
People don't typically watch "news" oriented shows purely for the facts. For reviews, which are typically found by people looking into that specific watch, sure, but for your normal shows, it's not just for the facts. Those are found quicker and more efficiently in print.
A good cohost who is comfortable on camera and returns banter is the most entertaining format.
Seemed like in the comments section we all said Sam was vastly improving and doing a great job. Awesome guy! You do a fantastic job as well
Sam definitely got shit on in the comments at first... but he was surely growing on people by the end.
He annoyed me a bit at first, but not enough to make me stop watching, and I'm sure you gotta get use to being on camera. He was kinda nervous and jittery at the beginning, but mainly, I think he didn't bring enough perspective and opinion to the table. He kinda mirrored Theo too much. Michael was a better contrast.
Christian, Thanks for the honesty. That's why I have been a fan from the beginning and will continue to be an avid viewer.
Michael rode a sand worm into the sunset. Michael Mua’dib Usul. “Long live the watch nerds!”
If you say his name 3 times he'll come back. 😂
Anna is Chani
All of the people asking about Michael, it looks like he's got his own channel (The Iron Snail). I stumbled across it last week.
His videos on that channel are such better quality even though I’m not interested in denim etc. Makes you wonder what he could have done for T&H if he had been able to take a similarly creative approach.
@@MS-tg6hc agreed, I couldn't care less about denim but find myself enjoying his videos.
He’s had that for years
Love you Christian, what what me hooked on your channel was the videos with you and Anna, Michael, and your pops. Forgot the name of the series but ya’ll would open a bottle of wine and just talk
The two key ingredients are not critical analysis and storytelling, they are obviously theo and harris
This channel was the start of my obsession with watches. It’s great how it is always evolving and the passion is still there. Keep it up Christian 👍🏼
I was thinking the other day about how your content has matured and that I enjoy your current solo videos. I wasn’t going to mention it but watching this, gave me the urge to share that thought.
Plenty of viewers that say nothing appreciate the work you create.
I was thinking the same thing but couldn't think of how to phrase it. Well said!
I like the deep dives too. I also wish there was some banter but it doesn’t have to be all light. You can do both. I think they did sometimes. Significant Watches, for instance. But probably not a great example since they didn’t get a ton of listens.
Michael was always into clothing more than watches, and I think we're all grateful that he was a part of this channel. I really believe (if) you want it, you can find the right watch person as a point-counterpoint to your opinions, the natural banter can be there. It needs to be someone you have history with, or have known in the watch world for a long time though.
I really loved that this channel was not only focused on watches, but also on funny talk, like a podcast...to say your talks with micheal were not educational is just wrong, they were both, educational and entertaining! I hope you continue the series with michael. And if you want to grow the channel, you have to talk about others things as well. The watch world is not big enough, but if you spice up the channel with funny, podcast-like content , it has more mass appeal.
The way you spoke about Michael was wonderful. Happy to still be along for the ride!
Honestly I do miss Anna and I do miss Michael. BUT ITS YOUR CHANNEL! Keep doing you Christian! From an entrepreneur’s perspective I totally understand getting back to the core of the business. I enjoyed this video, can’t wait for future content 👌
Thanks for this, Christian, I appreciate the candor and the directness, as always!
As one of the people who really appreciated the videos with Michale and who've been left scratching our heads a little since he left, I can say that I have seen your comments (both here and on the Zero, I think) about it, so I eventually understood what happened, but that didn't happen till later (or just didn't reach me, because I don't regularly read all comments on videos), and even so, I was personally thrown by how abruptly and unceremoniously it happened. Maybe this is true for others as well. Perhaps I'm alone with this, but I would've been happy to see a video specifically about this, saying goodbye, reflecting on your history together on the channel etc.
Oh, and a last thing - I definitely didn't mind the banter at all, I thought it was hilarious :D, but I didn't feel like I wasn't informed or educated or that my perspective was not challenged. On the contrary: what I appreciated so much about your videos together was that all of these things happened, plus there was such a great, relaxed, funny, honest and kind atmosphere around it.
That said, I'm definitely hanging around, because I still very much appreciate the unique and interesting perspective you bring to the watch world, I'm excited to see the direction your channel develops in, and I wish you all the very best for this new chapter.
I love that you mention a vintage piece towards the end. I love learning about them.
Christian, I have enjoyed your channel for several years now. As I am an old guy, I really enjoyed your segments with your Dad on Liquor run. ( Wine geek too) I absolutely share your passion for vintage watches. Your taste in vintage is impeccable, as evidence by your offerings. Your story telling is what keeps me watching. Stay cool dude!
BUT… What happened to Anna???
she ran off with Harris
She was eaten by wolves. Or maybe just moved on to something else like people do.
She was discontinued by Rolex
I actually am glad Michael spread his wings. I rather enjoy his channels as well, especially his informative videos on quality clothing. Christian, keep up the good work, keep growing and evolving, and showing us that passion. Thanks.
Hi Christian, love the channel, I do miss Michael and your dad, with a nice bottle of red wine, please bring them both back, as they complete you ✊
The dislike that Sam got was totally unwarranted. He’s fine and brings a different flavor to T&H. I like Michael but I didn’t think he would be gone forever or anything.
Yeah - he really tried. However, he also isn't/wasn't really a watch guy and was asked to join the channel and help out with LMF because he lost his pharma job. He was still a lovely guy though, and really pulled through
I miss you bantering with one of the guys, especially Michael. 😊 the problem is that your following has been based on the fun side of things created when you have a cohost, in my humble opinion. I used to search for your posts, get excited to see you guys having fun while talking watches. Now I watch when you show up on my feed. And it’s good content still, but it’s very similar now to many channels out there. You’ve lost that special sauce. I say this will love, Bro. 😊 and to be clear i do like you 😂. Id have a beer with you.
Keep up the great work Christian, been a fan for a long time my man!
Thanks for the Q&A. I did like the energy between you and Michael
Can’t you pay Micheal more to keep him in this channel!
Christian, your shows are among the best on RUclips. As a watch lover, a wine lover, a guitar lover and a general lover of quality vintage goods, you are nailing it. Thank you and please keep going. P.S. I am also on the hunt for the right reverso.
Great vid, Christian! Frequent viewer who tries to stay away from comments sections on social media platforms, but appreciate it when creators are receptive to feedback and genuine/unapologetic about who they are. This is your channel, and you should do whatever tf works for you. Tune out if you don't like it.
The most asked question and forgotten answer since “Who shot JR?”
And there’s no scheming mistress here
Keep up the great content and good luck to all the excellent cast members past, present, and the occasional cameos.
I continue to enjoy and look forward to the next plot line.
Christian, I'm an old guy who's been into watches for a while. Whatever You are doing, You have my support as I have always enjoyed your energy and enthusiasm. Onward and upwards and more success to You in the future.
Christian you’ve evolved into a well spoken, less aloof, entrepreneur. Very proud of your success and your ability to project your thoughts and beliefs. You’re A-Ok in my book amigo!
1) I love reviews of your own watches - you know these best, and we get to learn why you love them. Plus you tend to like watches that are less talked about which is fantastically interesting! 2) Sam is great, hope you still bring him on. It takes time to get calm in front of the camera so the more he is on the better he will be, also he is your mate so enjoy time with your friend. In saying that, you are the core of this channel and I enjoy your solo content, you have the x-factor for content. 3) Please do you when it comes to content, talk about what you want to talk about and own your style. People excel when they are themselves and do what they love! 4) Of course you need ads, this is a job, and you do the adverts well! 5) Michael was great, but you always were the core of this show. Michael will be missed but I'm going to enjoy the focus on you and your opinions more. 6) Thank you for the great entertainment!
You didn't ask for my advice but as a viewer, I feel like I'd chime in.
I go through ups and downs of being interested in certain things like watches. Unlike you, I don't have to think about watches every day. What brings me back to the channel when I'm not so into watches is the feeling of being with friends. I don't need you to inform me of anything. I come here to feel like I'm chilling with my bros who happen to like watches. The personal element is the valuable part of the content to me, not the information.
I enjoyed both Anna and Michael but at the end of the day, nothing beats just listening to Christian talk about watches solo.
Kudos for your honesty and your integrity in what you believe. Bravo!
Missing Michael....
Christian, you be you! You are genuine and honest. You also are extremely knowledgeable about vintage watches. Ignore the doubters and haters and yourbusiness will be fine!
Hey, it's YOUR channel. You started it. Everyone should respect that. If there was a falling out with some others, then you're going to be the one who stays. Simple as that. That being said, you never allowed Michael to be seen as an equal. Jokes about firing him made me cringe. You only talk about firing an employee when you are ACTUALLY firing him (1099 or W-2 I don't care). But you're young, you have done exceptionally well, but you still have a lot to learn about people...that's normal. You're exceptional in terms of your knowledge and curiosity about horology, and vintage horology in particular. So emphasize that!!!! I believe that THAT is what is best about this channel. Not a couple of guys drinking and joking. I can go to a corner bar and be part of that right now if I want. And yet, nobody asked me for this "sage advice", so I'll take whatever I get, LOL. I just wish you the best....you will go through good times and bad. Knowing your mission and sticking to it is what will drive your ultimate success, independent of people and circumstances.
One of the reasons that I really enjoyed the collaboration between Michael and Christian is because it reminds me of my relationship with my best friend since childhood. I'm more like a "Michael" and my best friend is more like a "Christian".
So yes, I miss the banter between them, but I will still keep watching (and subscribing) because I like Christian; and in another life, I know we would be best friends.
To be fair, Christian. I think most people ask "What happend to Michael" because the channel took on a podcast feel with both information and entertainment. Then, one day Michael is gone and Sam is in without any type of good-bye "episode" or anything of the like. We've always loved the channel but it also felt like T&H as a company was diversifying a bit with both the new podcast feel and what seemed like a partnership between you two and the marketing firm that was mentioned a couple times.
Your channel is awesome. You'll never please all the people, just keep doing what you're doing man. I appreciate your approach and everything about this channel. Keep up the great work.
Christian, you are doing a wonderful job on your channel and retail business! Keep up the great content! The world needs more business owners that have your passion. Have been and will continue to be a fan.
Thanks! Eric
Long time fan and critic of the show but ultimately I still love this channel. Keep making good content, Christian
The fact the banter and stroy telling of Christian ans Michael is missed by so many people prove that it was a successful concept. It worked.
However, nothing lasts for ever and people need to try new things.
When C&M do get some time to geek out about watches on camera it will be amazing. In the meantime, we can flick through the back catalogue. 😎
Would like to see Michael on the channel even if it’s much less frequent.
I hope to see Michael and you back together again once in a while.
Great video thanks for clearing all that up appreciate the honesty
“Why do you review your own watches?” Because they’re cool, interesting, and they’re for sale. ‘I’m not a businessman; I’m a business, man!’
13:21 is what you are looking for🙃
where is Micheal?
Christian Being consistent and the first voice of your firm makes you and your firm credible!! Keepup the good work.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and detailing the direction the channel is going. I am a big fan and admit you and Michael’s banter sometimes made me crazy. Good luck in everything you do. Your hard work shows. To 9 more years.
Best of luck man. I’ve been following this channel since its very inception and you are a unique voice on the YT watch community. Have to say Michael worked well, you are a good duo. I’ll keep watching regardless as I enjoy your insights.
I have been with you from day 1, it took time to get used to Michael and then Sam but men! those guys were awesome. Love you guys!
And… I do like your ability to provide analysis and storytelling. It is quite unique. Thank you.
Hi Christian, I've always liked both side of the content. As another vintage dress watch preferer, I like to listen to your take on more unusual pieces both new and vintage.
It's great. Thank you for the content.
thanks for this, it was very transparent and gives us insight as to why changes are being made.
Glad it was addressed the most important question. No other question is imprtant.
Keep up the good work Christian. There will always be the haters and the jealous types. You’ve got a loyal audience.
Micheal was a great counterweight for Christian's personality, in other words the duo made a great show.
I could see you and Tim Write having great onscreen chemistry 😉
Well Said Christian, I believe the majority of people enjoy and appreciate all your content regardless if it’s with Michael or Sam or on your own. Don’t let the few negative folks impact your vision and trajectory of this channel. Keep doing what you are doing. I truly look forward to your insights and commentary on a weekly basis. FORZA! You got this!
Dude, we like you…even without Michael. Keep up the good work
I enjoyed this video. Continued success to you, Christian!
Thanks for the honesty and being straight up. Much appreciated. Have no problems with the adds. Everyone needs to make a living.
Where is theo?
He was too opinionated and good looking.
And I'm sure there are tons of us that hope you feel appreciated as well, thank you for answering everything and doing so in the most genuine Christian way, as always!
Michael was fantastic and I hope he can come back for "two friends hanging out talking about watches" segments. I never understood how brutal everyone was to Sam, I personally related most to him, you could tell he was just proud of his Aquascaphe and to be there offering his best. For those of us that a $500 watch is aspirational, he was a dose of reality compared to the mutli-thousand dollar watches that the rest of youtube just portrays as bland or normal.
Finally, keep doing the ads man, who cares and anyone who has been involved in running a business knows the money needs to happen first. Content wont continue to exist without the business being right side up. You have at least 1 person who will keep watching ✌
I'm glad we had this conversation LOL
Haha "I'll never sell a baby" that made me laugh... Christian, I've been watching your videos since you used to make them inside of a Volkswagen and if there is a something in common between those videos and the current ones is your consistent passion and honesty, I've purchased a few watches from you in the past and since we live close you've taken the time to meet up at a local bar with my wife and I so that we can have a discussion about watches over a glass of wine. The truth is that co-hosts will come and go, its the nature of RUclips, you are a good person Christian I appreciate your honesty and will keep watching.
I enjoyed the Christian / Michael Banter combined with your production intent... much more than your exclusive production intent. I like your personality and am still watching, since you were filming from your backyard. We can't always sling zingers. And we can't appeal to everyone. Keep true to your intent... and keep the laughs as well
Got to respect Christian for giving it straight to everyone.
Great episode. I appreciate you covering these topics and questions. By the way, I tune in for Christian.
Personal videos with explaining real situation and feelings from RUclipsrs are usually the best. Only expertises , personal opinions and advertising comes in the long run somehow boring. Especially when the big run for the products is over. I am pretty sure that all the Watch RUclipsrs are - comparing the the past - struggling currently.
Anyway, a legendary issue here 🤙🏼
I started watching Theo & Harris because of you. And I will continue to watch it because of you . I really liked the mix between you and Anna. It was balanced, but it was watch informative. When I first got into the hobby, you were in my top three watch RUclipsrs. When Michael came it really got out of hand and I missed the straight on watch content. On a sidenote. If you’re not wearing that AP Royal Oak, I know somebody who could take it off your hands. 😉
What bro? People hate you? Its always a pleasure watching your content. It was fun meeting last year as well. W&W this year was also cool but last year was way better.
I hate that Sam got drug through the mud so much. I love this channel i loved watching you and Michael banter no matter what happens i think its important to know whatever you’re doing is the right thing, regardless of what other people are saying. You said it yourself, even if it was only 60 people in a class room you still have an audience. If i could wave a wand to get rid of all the shit talking that affects you guys i would. Keep on keepin on with what makes you happy people will hate no matter what unfortunately. Big fan, always will be and hopefully a customer soon 🤘
This feels a bit like that moment we all knew the golden age of the Bon Appetit RUclips channel was over
Michael is excellent, and so is Sam albeit in a different way. I agree that part of the attraction to your page is the clever, funny and informative banter, but I also think nothing ever stays the same and evolution is the only way forward. So, in my opinion, keep being unapologetically you, ignore the trolls and, like any artist or lover of art (which you clearly are) if you conform to what the crowd tells you it wants, you'll lose yourself in the process. I'm a recent subscriber (about four months now) and started watching your channel and other watch enthusiast channels because I finally received my James Cameron "Deep Sea" Sea Dweller after a two year wait, and wanted to be more educated about watches. I loved your work with Michael, and Sam too, but you are the driving force here. While I appreciate this video, I feel badly that you felt you needed to explain yourself to anyone...you don't. Keep on keeping on with the informative and incisive commentary and I hope Michael and Sam, and anyone else you decide to bring on to mix it up with appear occasionally.
I used to like the content and liked Michael as a host. Didn't care for Christian for like 3 years but now I've come around and I'm happy to stay and watch Christian.
He's got a genuine passion and knowledge for watches. He doesn't spend all day talking about the same 8 hyped watches.
Who cared about Cartier and Piaget before you heard about it from Christian?
I genuinely enjoy this channel and the content lately has been great. I did enjoy the banter between you and Mike but I understand that everyone has a path to follow. As for Sam, I honestly never understood why a few were so critical of him. I enjoyed Sams perspective as he took positions that I wouldn’t always consider which can be very helpful and interesting. You are much younger than I and I encourage you to take the criticisms from others with a grain of salt. Keep going you are doing great! Thank you for taking the time to create interesting content.
Subscribed to the iron snail and now I’m into denim 😅
The nose moment was hilarious. Those two guys are super fun. I am glad he is on the up and up, and I will enjoy every time you guys get together and have fun with it.
Fug the haters, just keep going and the ones who care will keep showing up.
0:42 Is Michael
😂
Not many people are talking about vintage Cartier on RUclips (well only you and Wei Koh actually), and we need that aspect. I think it does work better solo 👍
Michael offset the ego for the perfect blend. Big shame! But life is basically a series of goodbyes. 😢
Good morning Sir,
I appreciate your inner wisdom in the watch world. I thoroughly like when you take the opportunity to share your views on Tim Write channel. I feel a few guest appearances on Oisin’s and Dirk Kennedy’s shows helps bring the watch community closer and will bring greater content to your viewers.
Best Regards.
on your own or with another the shows are always great. different and great. take care and keep it going. thank you