At 9:34 I tried to make a point that I feel I didn’t wrap up well. Basically what I meant is that you CAN’T reproduce today the value that this camera currently offers, and that if you could it would be industry changing. I guess similar to the way you could buy a decently running older Honda today for $5,000 but you couldn’t find any new car for $5,000. And the only reason every single photographer doesn’t own one of these is probably just because it’s old so they’re worried there’s something wrong with it- but if it WAS a brand new camera at its current price it would be more common than the 50mm F1.8 STM, I mean EVERYONE would own one.
seems to be a problem with capitalism. like it’s hard to buy a car without all these unnecessary add ons because the people who buy new cars want them. i nearly bought a fuji xt5 recently but the 40mp puts me off. 40mp!!
@@Humungojerry enough with the "problem with capitalism" take. No one wants vehicles with a bunch of unecessary bells and whistles. Social-corporatism and cronyism are the driving factors. Have you never heard "socialize losses and privatize profits"? The majority of people don't want electric cars "Green energy" technology because it's too expensive, not really sustainable from recyclable or economic perspective, but WEF and government lackies are pushing it. Nothing capitalistic about it. Nothing free market about it. Now stop drinking the Globalist kool-aide.
You mentioned in your video about the photographer that to this day shoots with 5D Classics for his paid client wedding photography work. I know of some commercial photographers that are working with 7 year old Canon 5D SR DSLRs, even now. They have not embraced the R systems at all. They make the point that their clients come to them for the quality of their work, they don't need mirrorless systems for what they do. Granted, these are much higher resolution cameras, but the point is that professionals often keep their older systems and don't upgrade frequently because if their clients needs are met with the older systems. Why buy new bodies and lenses that are expensive and they don't bring in any more revenue? Therefore not adding to the bottom line. Upgrading can be an expensive game. In fact when I sold off my 5D Mark IV, it was purchased last year by a wedding photographer. He already had the same body in his kit along with a Mark II and he wanted a second body that matched his main camera. His reasoning was familiarity, so switching from one camera to the other gave him the same feel and that was a comfort zone for him when on the job. I really haven't attended to your point above, but a lot of professionals really don't want or need to upgrade their systems every year. If you apply that to casual photographers who want a flexible system, they can get a lot of horsepower out of older systems that in their time and even today are very fine systems. It's the marketing departments of the manufactures that drive the need in people to upgrade and suffer from G.A.S. They play on human weakness and desire. Getting not so straight to your point, the performance of the 5D could really exist successfully and shamelessly in the current line-up of cameras for people today. If there were a modern day version released, the only thing I might ask for in terms of stills photography would be higher ISO range. Even the limited dynamic range of this sensor, limited as it is, seems to roll of in a very pleasing way, so I could live with it.
Hey, it`s just an old camera man not some piece of magic. In the day it was nice, today it`s completely obsolete. No sense making more of it then it is.
‘A bland and sterile experience’…. That’s such an accurate description of using a modern mirrorless camera. I love them for the speed and accuracy, but it’s missing the soul of an old 5D…. Amazing.
Sold My 5D years ago, moved to a 5D mk3 which I've never liked that much. Kept looking back fondly at shots I took with the original 5D. Today I finally admitted that I love that old 5D look, and one is now on its way for the modest sum of 140 English pounds. Can't wait to get out shooting with it!
Soooo strange! I took a picture of my window in the dark while on the McDonald’s drive thru. I focused on the raindrops on the window so the red lights of the car in front is just a huge bokeh ball and it looks BEAUTIFUL! And I thought, wow. I could just shoot photos of NOTHING!
Excellent video, totally agreed. Started shooting 15 years ago with a Cannon 40D, upgraded to a 6D, 5D MK 2, MK 3. Upgraded all of my glass to L. Sold it all to chase mirrorless dream. A Sony A7R3 and G Master lenses. I primarily shoot street, city, urban and architecture. Walking around NYC & Philly with a few thousand dollars in gear, increasingly worried about theft, dropping and repairs. Sold all of the gear. Now use a 5D classic a 24 2.8 and a 50 1.4. $400 worth of equipment, great pictures and not a worry in the world.
Great points made on this amazing camera. Love the nostalgia a camera such as Canon 5D Classic has and agree with you 100% the images, rendering and colours of this camera are special. Canon 6D is also a great camera with extra features and produces similar creamy look to photos. Together, make a formidable pair of cameras for stills photography.
This is not a rant - its a love story. I have a 6D (and recently got a mint 5D3 for action work) but actually long for the Classic, just to see what I get with it. You have made it VERY hard to resist. Fantastic story, thank you 👍
Having had the 6D, I think I can safely say that the 6D colour is very close to the Classic. Honestly I don't think you'd see much difference between these two cameras and with the 6D you have some valuable updates in the hardware.
If I was shooting a sport where I could anticipate where the action would be (like race cars, or maybe baseball) I wouldn’t have any preference between 5Diii and 6D but if I was shooting a sport where the action can move anywhere (like basketball or hockey) I’d prefer the 5Diii. Also, there is something really nice about having the same camera as a backup for your main camera, and not having to remember the subtle differences in the controls and feeling when you go from one to the other. Small benefits to the 5Diii over 6D is weather sealing (fairly certain 6D isn’t weather sealed, as I’ve had mine freak out after light rain), 1/8000 max shutter speed (I just ordered ND filters for my fast lenses when I take out my 6D, which maxes out at 1/4000) and also with the 5Diii you can save custom file prefixes which makes multi camera jobs a lot nicer to process.
I got a 5D Classic a year ago. I am a Sony shooter (A9/A7RIII + at least 5K on e-mount lenses). I nowadays use my 5D Classic way more than my Sony FF bodies. Like you stated, it's something about that filmic look which is great, especially when people are in the shot. Probably the best portrait camera ever. I will probably sell my A7RIII and most of my Sony e-mount lenses and keep the A9 and two zooms since it's great for fact action. Can totally relate with your thoughts Andrew.
Excellent review. I still use my Canon 5D Classic and with each photograph it surprise me with its beautiful colors. Excellent camera, excellent experience, I really enjoy it.
I got my 5D when the mark iv came out. A used 5D was still going for like 500-600$ back then, but I found one near me for 200$ in good shape. I was actually saving my money to buy a mark iii and I had no desire to buy a mark i, but the deal was too good to pass up. Coming from a t3i, I was delighted by the heavy, chunky sound of the shutter actuation/mirror movement. I was blown away by the files on a big screen. Its crazy how the consensus is that this particular sensor is something special.
I've had a 5D classic, a 7D, a 5DMKII and I currently own a 6D Mark I. I have to say it, there's something about the 5D classic colors that was really, really special. I just can't explain it, but the quality of the images was fantastic. I mean , it didn't even have live view, real time eye tracking, it was super heavy and it had this huge CF low capacity card slot, but man, the photography it used to produce was mind blowing.
My 5D is 18 years old. I have never regretted owning it, never lusted after newer models. Oh, BTW, lately I’ve been using it for black and white, which it renders beautifully! Looks like my beloved Plus X, may it rest in peace.
Yeah!!! I finally found a 5d classic fan base. I keep on buying these cameras for nothing. I own 3 now, and none of them is broken down. I bought them for friends even. With this camera i can do things i would never do wuth another camera, like photographing my son swimming, because it is just not that expensive. But the result is priceless
Man, that was just phenomenol! I JUST bought the 5D for almost the exact reasons, the big one being full frame over crop sensor curiosity. It's coming in a few days and this was just the review I needed to see! Thanks for doing it!
I’ve been using the 5D every single day for almost a year now and it’s completely transformed photography for me. Revived my interest in the hobby completely. If you cruise over to my instagram (@Andrewdoeshair) I’ve got a lot more portraits with the 5D over there.
@@andrewdoeshair I had gone over there earlier as well. I appreciated your post on focal length and the effect upon one's face. i suppose I'm going to have to resent you though because you put a "need" in me for a 135 f2! :-) When my wife complains, I'll blame that post! :-)
This was my exact experience/reaction 😊 when i got mine roughly 2yrs plus. This gem reignites your passion for photography. Someone said the first iterations of most camera models had all the sauce, love and passion put into their first models making them absolutely special and that's absolutely true.
Agreed. I used this camera 4 years ago when I started getting into Photography to document my sons birth but it wasn't long before I went down the rabbit hole of buying up cameras just for the sake of it. The was some intention there from a business perspective but mostly I just wanted to try out different cameras but due to COVID couldn't get to the stores. I'd say to this day that the Canon 5D Classic and the Fujifilm X-Pro 1 are the two ''vintage' digital cameras I enjoying shooting most and come back to them both time and time again. I'm currently in the process of selling off some gear.
You nailed it!! Basically, what you said is the core fundamentals of photography is what's important!! Too many people teaching photography totally miss this. You're a photographer who doesn't earn his living from photography, but you totally get it. You need to have a solid foundation with the basics in ANYTHING you do if you want to be good at it. I am tired of people saying you have to have a 1.2 lens and set the camera to eye focus, blah blah blah...... I do the focus-recompose method of focusing with the center focus point, and I never have a problem with my images being in focus. The images you posted on this video are amazing.....Thanks for posting!
For few of us we’ve come full circle. In the early 2000’s I mainly shot with film cameras then in 2007/2008 I transitioned to dslr. Was shooting with dslr’s until 2018 then I went mirrorless. Mirrorless is great and I love them. However newer mirrorless camera seem to have AI that is able to do everything for you, which can take the fun out of taking photos. It’s just funny to me because that’s what so many people wanted. A very high tech camera with superb focus accuracy, and color rendering etc. But now here we are, where some of us are yearning for cameras of yesterday years. 😅
I can't brag about getting mine for $120, as I bought it new right after it came out in 2005. For the past year I've been thinking of donating it, as part of decluttering, but couldn't quite do it. Now I'm glad I didn't. Just this month I finally dug it up, dusted it off, replaced the long-dead battery, and have done some snaps with it. It is just as you describe - with so many of the modern features missing, it very much slows you down and makes you think about the process - like the old film days before it. I still have all my old glass too. I've been using it on a speedbooster with the Panasonic, which gives me the low light and video fix the old girl can't, but that's not quite the full frame look it was meant for. Good video.
This is the best camera review I've seen on youtube. You explained your use case and the pros and cons so clearly and objectively. I would love it if this were more the general vibe of camera youtube. Great work!
I jumped on the bandwagon and bought one for $140,within a couple of days I bent a CF card pin and had to send it off for repair ($143). I tried to wait but I was dying to try the camera out so I got another one for $127 and really liked the way it operates.Coming from a film background,it was a lot more familiar.I am now REALLY CAREFUL when messing with the CF card.So now the other one is repaired and serviced,I have two.......................................................
Awesome video! Great watch! Ever since watching this video 8 months ago. I now own 2 5D Classics! Great walk around camera! This camera truly brings you back to the basics. Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks for the feedback! You should check out the 40D as well. Very similar charm, but with a snappier response and a surprisingly fast burst rate. I got one for $40 and another for $60, and I’ve been enjoying them in cases where I want more reach with less size- like when I would have used the 5D with a 70-200mm lens instead I’ll grab the 40D with a 24-105 F4 or a 100mm F2 and it’s way more manageable to throw into my shoulder bag
What an honest video! I've had a Canon 5D Classic sitting on the shelf for 13 years due to a broken rear screen. I can see the menus, but the image review feature doesn't work. During that time I also had a Canon 6D (unfortunately stolen) and a 5D Mark IV replaced the 6D. I had the holy trinity of lenses for the Mark IV with the 24-70 L, 85 and 70-200 lenses plus a 40mm pancake. Last year I sold off all of my FF camera gear save for the inactive 5D Classic and a 40 mm f2.8 pancake lens that nobody wanted and that ultimately was a fortunate no sale outcome. I switched over to M43 for my main gear, YES, M43. It's an Olympus E-M1 Mark III fabulous system that does everything that I need. And I do use this for 90% of my photo work.....worth a try for anyone that is curious. When required, the latest noise reduction software in Lr works brilliantly. ......until about 6 months ago, I was cleaning up and picked up the 5D classic. I realized that the camera is perfectly functional even without the working real screen, it was my own insecurity that had me shelf the camera. I recognized that I don't need to chimp with this camera. It captures the images flawlessly to the CF card and as long as my exposure settings are correct I get amazing images. Working with this camera is almost like the film days. I don't get to see the results until I get back to my computer. I'm never disappointed with the output from this camera, but I may be disappointed with my own performance. The simplicity of the menus and shooting with focus and recompose is a through-back to the time. It's like the primal roots of digital photography. I often find myself taking this camera along for street photography or for random captures while out on a bike ride. If you have healthy batteries, this thing can support taking at least 1,000 shots on one charge if you manage your power usage. That said, I've not used the .jpg feature on this camera. That's something that you've inspired me to try out. After all if I shoot raw and .jpg I'm covered if I need the raws. Perhaps, like you, I'll find that the .jpgs are such a joy that I won't need to shoot in raw. But then the file sizes in today's terms are small and don't require a lot of storage, so keeping the raws as an original negative style archival backup is not such a bad idea. Real magic seems to ooze from of this camera. It truly is only limited by the experience and talent of the user. I may just have to get another body as a back up.
I sold my 5D Classic few years ago, I had it for many years. I bought 5D mark 3, and now when I go back and see those photos from the old 5D, I see a huge difference in rendering. I wasn't seeing it before, as that was it at that time. Now I regret selling it. But the extra regret I have is that I bought that 5D classic from a young photographer who kind of got a cult status now, and I had his camera which was just so cool. I am an idiot for selling it. I'll buy it again, just because I miss it. But it won't be the same as having that original one I had :(
I shot several concerts at the Whiskey-A-Go-Go and Troubadour with a Canon 5D, 50mm 1.8, and 200mm f2.8L. Never had low light issues. Like you said, it forces you to follow the lights and time your pictures for when your subject is in a light up part of the stage.
I’ve got both the 5D and the 6D. I use the 6D for more professional use and the 5D for more personal projects. Sometimes vice-versa. They both have really good sensors.
Loved your video. I'm a fan of the 5D classic and enjoy most videos put out by creators talking about this wonderful camera. It's not perfect but it's lovely.
Great video. Lo ve the 5D classic and the aps-c cameras from the same era like the 30D and 40D. As a musician, i kind of draw the analogy of new, state of the art modelling amps trying to emulate classic Fender and Marshall tube amps. Perhaps an idea may be to buy an actual tube amp? The flawless tech of new cameras; we edit to look like film, assume various casts and gradations etc. As you’ve stated, clearly they have way more latitude, speed, practicality but we lose the ‘soul’ somewhere. The 5D is pure photography.
I was thinking of the exact same analogy, solid state amps vs tube amps.... vinyl versus digital... I had an early 2MP point and shoot Canon, and then (after I left it on the beach) a 20D. They had that wonderful film-like (tubey ; ) look, and when I cropped into the pictures it still stayed film-like. Nowdays, with my M50 mark II while it has so many more pixels, but as I zoom / crop in, especially as I move away from ISO 100, the images quickly become useless. Jagged, the noise breaking up the image into shattered bts and pieces, color and tone draining out fast. I am looking to get that back, and as I flipped through the Flickr shots people posted with 5D classic are so much like those older shots I did with the 20D. (Since, sadly, my 20D passed away to camera-ever land, hence the M50.) Also, with higher ISO the 20D/5D gives that graceful transition into what looks like film grain, instead of becoming jagged, disruptive and alien. I am really tempted to pull the trigger on a classic.... esp as I can use the 20Ds battery, battery charger and CF card. (They are compatible ;). No kidding, my 20D original Canon battery still works well after 15+ years.....
@@realworldaudio the 20D from 2004 and it’s predecessor the D60 (2002) were great Canon aps-c cameras. They helped pave the way for the 5D. I made my living off of these 2 cameras from 2002-2010 and looking back in the images they are almost painterly, just beautiful. I sold them long ago and today the 5D is one of my go-to cameras.
Man you nailed it! My 5D does everything you just says it does. I like to use spot metering and let everything else just disappear. ( just like you said ) I also really enjoy iso 800 in B&W.
It wasn’t until I got this camera that I started using exposure lock in aperture priority, and as soon as it clicked I felt like I’d wasted the last ten years scrolling the thumb wheel back and forth while shooting. Back button focus, half press shutter for exposure lock, BAM, fast and accurate. So much fun to shoot that way.
Still rocking my 5d classic with nifty fifty and 70-200 and I love it, it's also a good travel camera because if you lose it or it gets damaged, then it's budget enough to buy again 😁 Even though I have gear that's more current and faster auto focus, the 5d just has this nice feeling to the images that come out of it.... Thanks for the great "rant" 😄great vid 👌🏻
I ALMOST sold mine! I had it before. Them gave it away to a church friend who was getting started with photography but I missed the images so much. So I purchased it again. But I wanted to thin down my gear for simplicity. And I wanted to get the x100t. (Which I also sold and immediately regretted it.) so I went online, set up a trade for my d750 and my 5D classic. But I also immediately went to FB marketplace and put up my d750 for sale. It sold immediate for the price of the x100t! So I could keep my 5D, and I’m sooo glad I did!
The 5D helped me find again, what I had lost over the years using digital gear. Your words have articulated so succinctly, how I've been feeling about photography for such a long time. Between the 5D(Classic), and my D700, all the basic elements of photography bring me joy again without newer and complicated technologies getting in the way. I can grab the 5D after not using it for months and just use it without complication. Great phots and content Andrew. Thank you for posting.
7 minutes in and I’ve been in eBay and bought one. Now hunting for a lens. Been thinking about it for a couple of years and thought sod it. Love the video, love the photos.
I bought my classic 5d when it first came out, feels like a million years ago, still works great.Thanks for your thoughts on this camera, agree with all!
The 5d classic is special, anyone who disputes this is either a Canon hater or someone who hasn't used one. I've owned many cameras like you and came back to the 5d classic. Twice. More compliments with this camera. I'm now looking for a second because I want a back up.
"Anyone who disputes this .... " What about me who had one and sold it because it's just too outdated? Dust issues, back focusing issues, not as reliable as the ii.. lovely colours but there's just a lot of cons. With the price the ii is going for nowadays, I will pick the 5D ii.
Good video. I just got my 5D. I had to re-glue the mirror but otherwise the camera is in great shape. The very first picture I shot with it - when I pulled it off the camera and looked at it untouched, my jaw dropped. I shoot a R5 and R6 as a daily driver, mostly for wildlife. I couldn't take a lot of those pictures with the 5D but man, there is something special about the images it produces. Pick yourself up a 300D or a 10D (they are essentially the same and a working one can be had for $20) and you'll find its got a lot of the same vibe as the 5D. My theory is that when these early DSLRs were being created, the engineers used film prints to calibrate the colors and tone. That slowly morphed into the precision color science we have today. I also have a D60 which was the second DSLR Canon made and its similar but really hard to get a picture with unless you're in bright sun or studio lights.
@@msmith2016 love it. My workhorse was an R6 for the past few years but as I kept playing with these older DSLRs (40D, 6D, 5D) I developed more and more of a distaste for both the final product and also the experience of the R6. I just got a 70D to use for my video work (simple videos like this one, or haircuts, which is even simpler) and I ditched my R6. I got a 5Diii for when I need to snap my kids sprinting around the yard, and now that I’ve used so many of canons newer and older models I feel like the 5Diii was a perfect sort of middle ground where the colors just barely started to become less than ideal but the ergonomics and controls made for a camera that could react as quickly as I can. After that the mirrorless line has been hit or miss on controls (too many menu dives) and it feels like canon thought they were losing sales to Sony over their colors. In a very simple sense, canon stopped making fun cameras, it started to feel like shooting with a pricey phone
I honestly feel this same way when I shoot with my Canon XSI. What is funny is I feel more confident shooting with it than more modern cameras. It was my first and I learned every little thing about it and its limitations where most cameras now, you could never know everything about them because it is so much to use. I got so good with jpeg shooting that I knew my presents already and how they would look before I took the shot. So I knew to switch to other jpeg picture style settings in advance because I knew the image I would get already. Amazing experience.
Thanks Andrew. You are correct about the 5D classic being a bit of work to get good results. I love shooting mine, having come from the Kodachrome days, with it's Kodachrome like limited dynamic range and exposure latitude. Certainly not a camera for the novice but great for an old experienced shooter from the film days looking for a more organic look. I put some of my 5D prints up against my Kodachrome prints and there is a general similarity if one doesn't look too close. Probably would also be a good camera to give to beginning students in photo school.
Thanks for the feedback! I have a friend who keeps trying to buy and edit his way into better photos and he’s always complaining that his shots aren’t good enough so he must need to replace his $1,200 85mm with a $2,700 85mm… When he’s asked my advice I told him to slap a 50mm F1.8 on a 5D classic and shoot JPEGs only, I also told him to delete Lightroom for a while. He said “but my photos would suck then!” And I said “exactly, so your only option is to take better ones!” Basically exactly what you’re saying, if you do everything right with this camera it really pays off, but when you want the camera to do the work for you- this isn’t the one 😂
I really enjoyed your honest reactions to the Canon 5D. I just got one with three lenses for $100 at a swap meet . One lens wasn't an EF though it will be used with an adapter anyway ! I love my camera and am going to get another. Good to have spares and a great camera for a friend to try. I also have a 30D that has the exact same buttons and menu and I really enjoy that camera too, though it's not full frame. I really think the 5D Classic has become my all time favorite straight out of camera jpeg wonder ! You'll definitely become a better photographer with this camera guaranteed ! Really enjoyed your video.
I bought this camera in 2006 and shot with it for many years (no money to upgrade). My mirror fell off while in Jamaica during the first shoot on a 45 day trip! But fairly recently I upgraded to the 5D Mark IV and hadn't even gotten used to that camera when the R5 came out. For years I resisted moving to mirrorless but had to go for the eye autofocus that the R5 had. Although I wouldn't go back to a dSLR at this point, I did love my 5D classic for the many years I owned it. The camera is simply a tool and it is up to the photographer to get out of it what they want. "It's All About The Image".
I loved my 5D, and like you, my mirror dropped out mid-wedding... then I felt I could never trust it again for paid work. I still shot Canon (now a 5Dii) but might go for a 1DXii if it drops in price, which it surely will as people move to mirrorless instead. BTW, I agree that I felt a bit like in the analogue days when I used it, I had to think more, read the light carefully and wait for all to fall into place before hitting the shutter. That is not a bad thing, it just makes me become a "better" photographer thinking outside the box. Not trusting a camera which shoots 100 frames a second with a dynamic range stretching from pitch black night to the Sahara midday sun + a resolution of astronomical proportions.
I love the 5D. I carried it around today. Got great photos. But also, I've had a Ricoh GRiii in my pocket every day for the last two years. Love it. :-)
I watched your video from beginning to end and I really, really sympathize with your feeling about using a "previous generation" camera. I was also shooting with the R6 until recently and the second I started shooting with it I didn't connect. Its technical perfection and bad colors really emptied me of the desire to go out and take pictures. And the pictures from it required a lot of computer processing from me to bring the picture to a place I would be happy with. I recently returned to a previously owned camera. The 5 is quite a Mark 3. I want to tell you that already on the first picture I understood what I was missing. The lack of a wide dynamic range, the simplicity of shooting with single focus points (without sophisticated eye tracking) simply made the photography experience much more enjoyable. Thanks for an excellent video.
FYI: The dirt inside the viewfinder/prism of my classic was bugging me, so followed a RUclips video how to clean. Disassembled the focusing screen, others screen and gave them a good clean. Now my back focusing issue is gone. Whether the clean or the reassembly fixed it, don’t know. It just works perfect now. 😊
That’s good to know! I might have to do that. I noticed that my diopter doesn’t have a sweet spot, or at least when it’s as good as it gets it still looks soft. I’ve wondered if it would be worth it to tear the camera apart and see if something is grimy or crooked in there
At 19.29 - 'A good photograph doesn't capture everything in a scene - but hides what you don't need to see in the scene. I love that BTW. I think the 5d Classic major strength is its huge pixel pitch (FF sensor & 12MP) and the amazing colour depth. I wasn't even aware of the technical advantage when I started shooting with the camera. I - for the same reasons as you had gotten tired of the 'see it all' results of modern sensors, and the 5D classic produces a look that always brings a smile to the face. Even a boring subject has a 'beautiful boring' look. Thanks for the video/review/rant - I much agree with all your findings. The other cameras I've experienced shooting with, that provide a similar feel to the images are the Fujifilm X-pro 1 (1st gen XTrans sensor) with the Fuji 35mm f1.4, and the Panasonic Lumix GF1 with the Lumix 20mm f1.7. Both of them have their limits (dynamic range) but the mood they give to the pictures can't be matched by modern sensors and their edited images.
I purchased the og 5d new when the 5dii came out and I still have it. It's very temperamental. Screen works when it wants to and it randomly won't write to cards. I've had every iteration of 5d but this is the only one I kept(mostly for sentimental reasons). It's funny because it was insane saving up for expensive digital while shooting film for years. Now I shoot digital and can't afford film lmao. I need to get another 5d or 6d. My sonys are uninspiring tools most of the time but they get the job done. I still have a bunch of EF L glass that I use on Sony lol.
Great Rant !! ;-) ...... Since I got my 5D Classic, my EOS R sits on the shelf most of the time. it's amazing what this camera can deliver if you get it right. The colors, the vibe, you look at the photos and think: wow that is a nice photo! And if you have lenses that work well with this camera, you can take amazing sharp photos. I am mostly at around F2.8 and it almost always works well. Thankx again ! ...
thank you. you come off like a real photographer, the kind i knew when i took my MA in art/photography. you feel the experience -- that's what it feels like. when i shoot i experience the light flowing onto my sensor ( ok, yeah, it's like that ). so, i bought this camera just now, and i'll be using it with my old Leica R summicron. going to vienna and i'm getting old and my 1dx ii is getting too heavy ! so, i'm very excited about your experience with the look of the image. i've been shooting canon since the AE-1 and on and on because i really like canon color. thank you again for the wonderful review. happy shooting!
just watched your video, and i am new to this and just bought a 5d classic for $225 it came with a 40mm voightlander lens . and love it so far. the lens online used is $469 so i feel like i got a good deal.
Thank you for the video! It's been emotional. I have a strong feeling that I have to get one for myself. Just imagine how mindblowing it could get, if I've only been using cropped 550D and 600D before! In fact, I've used 5D mk II for couple days like 10 years ago, but didn't quite know what to do with it back then. Glad I found your video, it did help a lot.
Hi Andrew. The analogy that springs to mind about this post is you've learnt how to cook and enjoy the taste, smells and process of what you've created compared to fancy, yet predictable, takeaways you've gotten used to. My equivalent of the Canon classic is the Nikon D700 with a following as devoted to it as the Canon users are to the classic. The histroy of iconic photographs was done on cameras using manuel focusing. The method can still sit happily beside autofocus today (no problems with jpegs either) So, enjoy your new lease of life as photographer using the classic and reengaging with the those techniques you spoke of and the sense of accomplishment too. Fiinally, I use a quick release wrist strap made of parachute cord for my Nikon D700 because it may of only cost a few quid, however, the images and memories created while using it are priceless. Sending good vibes from London and enjoy the rest of your day.
Loved the “rant”, I read a post on Reddit and someone asked which is a good ancient camera with a CCD sensor, and they got ripped apart for being a hipster. People were saying “so you want a crappy camera then”. I certainly agree with your points, I brought an Olympus e300 and a Sony A7c and GM lens on a 10 day trip. I think my keep rate on the “crappy” e300 was like 20 percent but I loved all of them over the Sony. Personally for me, maybe I’m a hipster wanting to go back to dinosaur cameras from shooting with the best of the best, but both the shooting experience and photos from these cameras are much more haptic. I’m in the market for a 5d classic too. Of course, like you, I’m keeping new tech cameras mainly because I wife wants good pictures of the kids in tough lighting situations, but if there’s good lighting during the day, I’m using these 150 dollar cameras all day.
For me it keeps coming back to “the camera I have on me” and the camera that makes me WANT to shoot. I grab my R6 when I know I absolutely have to get the shot, I use my iPhone when I didn’t plan to shoot but saw a reason to, and I grab this 5D when I just WANT to shoot. I don’t recall if I mentioned this in this video, but with my R6 I’ll get 200-300 shots in an evening and be thrilled with 2-3 of them, where with the 5D I’ll shoot 50-60 and be thrilled with 5-6 of them. Very rarely do I bring the 5D and wish I’d brought the R6, usually it’s cases where the kids are running around in unpredictable patterns, and maybe once it’s been dynamic range frustrations, but I find that most of the time when I do bring the R6 I leave it in the bag, or I’ll get a billion shots and dread digging through them later.
@@andrewdoeshair yeah absolutely , the Olympus makes me want to take it out. In fact, it was so dirt cheap, I keep it in my work backpack (no other protection) because I never know when a morning light will hit the flowers or architecture just right. It really takes me back to when I carried a Pentax MX with a roll of Provia around all day. You do slow down and appreciate the lighting / overall mood of the scene more because of their limitations. And you’re right, when presented with a darker situation, you begin to broaden your perspective of light and dark rather than focus on what you can do to post process all the dark or highlight details back in. All great points and I’m really excited to get the 5Dc having just sold my 5d4 like a week ago.
@@3sgtepwnzr oh man thats a whole other thing that blew my mind- I took for granted the cost difference between old and new gear. I’d been using newer stuff for so long that I wasn’t even flinching at $2,000+ for a lens or body, but when I sold my RF 70-200 I was able to buy this body AND a budget trinity (EF 17-40mm F4L, EF 50mm F1.8 STM, and Tamron 70-210mm F4) for less than half of what my RF 70-200 sold for. Like I got fully kitted out for less than the cheapest RF L series lens. Because I most seriously shoot portraits I do keep some equity parked in more serious lenses in the 85-135 range but for standard and wide lenses this exercise has absolutely made me start looking at $200ish 30 year old lenses (like I’m pretty close to getting canon’s 28mm F1.8 and their 100mm F2 to bring with my 50 1.8 for a tiny fast prime kit with the 5D).
I understand what you want to say. I wouldn't want to shoot non-paid jobs with the 5D Classic, or one-off opportunities. Just because of the focus, that would be too uncertain for me. But for private photography just for fun, it's more fun than with the new cameras. Their focus is so good it's less fun. This perfection is boring and makes me feel worse. So I'm happy to live in a world where I can have both, depending on my mood.
I also got a 5D, and it was the best purchase I ever made. I tried a Canon 800D, 6D, RP, and none of those cameras comes close to the experience and feeling of the Canon 5D classic. This is a camera that's gonna get expensive soon.
Brilliant review! I bought a 5D classic when it came out, as that coincided with my fist kid arriving and it’s still going strong. I’ve recently been looking at newer cameras, with a degree of envy, but came to the same conclusion as you that my iPhone is fine for group photos and every day use, when I don’t want to carry around a big camera. I’ve taken a few group photos with the 5D that I found quite disappointing, but almost every portrait I’ve taken and especially those with moody lighting have been stunning. I’m going to stop worrying about newer cameras now! 😊
Thanks for the feedback! Not to attempt to cause harm ti your wallet 😂 but don’t completely rule out the newer stuff, it has its perks still! I recently took my young children to an amusement park and felt like kind of a dork bringing along my R6 with a 70-210, but now I’m glad I did it because I’ve got amazing shots of their faces lighting up on rides that I couldn’t have gotten with an iPhone or with my 5D. Whenever I think about ditching the R6 I find a situation where I’m glad I have it. Although if the R8 was out at the time that I got my R6, I’d have that and not this 😋
@@andrewdoeshair Yes, completely see your point. Another temptation is a small mirrorless camera like the Fujifilm Xpro and Leica Q cameras. I have a mate who has both and the pictures they produce are lovely, with similarly superb JPEG colours. They don’t draw the same reaction from subjects as big DSLRs and I imagine they’d be great for some of your work. Very pricey though!
Thank you! I think I mentioned this in the video but switching to jpeg made photography way more fun again. For years it was neat to see what I could do in post but the time and storage to do that started to feel like a huge price tag for taking photos, and it made me shoot less often. Now I shoot jpeg for fun and raw for work
Thank for your lengthy rants! Although I find the 6D to be better camera overall I still like the look of the images the 5D can produce (when I get it right) and I would be using my 5D way more than I do if it had had WiFi or Bluetooth capabilities. One solution is to pull the SD card out of the 5D (using a card adapter) and stick it into my 6D which as you know has WiFi but if there's an easier solution I would love to know about it. Thanks for your lengthy rants, you're by far the RUclipsr I feel I have the most in common with when it comes to photo and photo gear.
Thanks! I just picked up a 6D to use when it’s too dark for the 5D. I did a lengthy rant about that one, too 😂 and then I decided to add a 40D to the collection, as well. Between those three I’m quite happy with my kit these days
Having a 14 year old here who seem to be very interested and talented in photography beyond just taking cellphone pics .. but she's used too and expecting modern cell phone technology. I'd like to know how to wirelessly connect a 40D or 5D to a cellphone. If that's not possible I will just have to get her a 6D and a 40mm ;-) @@andrewdoeshair
i have two 5d's... thinking about hoarding a few more as they are criminally cheap. (just found one for $95 in 9+ condition) or get a 6d or two. my current EDC (5d+40mm pancake) cost me less than a Leica Battery... if that sensor was housed in a Leica M body or in a more vintage looking SLR à la Fujji XTsomething, sold at a premium, hipsters and film bros would be all over it. The unique rendering combined with a weak low pass filter (it looks sharper than some of my much more modern cameras that have higher MP count) makes this camera a true classic. no problem checking for focus on the LCD as i push the sharpness to the max on the jpg preview. i barely touch my other rigs unless i need the speed and low light capabilities...
Saw this comment as I walk from the mailbox with a 6D I just bought to use as a daily carry since this 5D has been frustrating to use in the winter months when it’s dark half the day
im also browsing for a copy myself and totally feel ya on this disgusting weather for photopgraphy. I basically only shoot BW these days because everything is flat otherwise @@andrewdoeshair
I still have mine, got it brand new in 2007. Based on photo archives, my shutter is way beyond 500,000. In my opinion, the best Canon FF ever made…btw Kodak developed that sensor.
Nice video, fun to watch. At 70 now, I used a Leica M-3 in the 1970's. Every shot was a guess until you printed a contact sheet. One thing I can't stand about digital cameras are the menus, the 5D has a short and sweet menu, you even have to manually choose the ISO. Thanks for the rant!
You’re awesome, we’re always looking for that special look buying camera after camera ,all the the latest and greatest technology and overlook the old cameras because they’re too old . I have a huge collection of old cameras because they have character and are not complicated, just stick a good lens in front and you almost have the Leica look . I think that’s the look we’re looking for 😊😊😊
I'm shooting film and lately I just tried 400D (got it almost for free). I must say, old SLR is not that far away from analog experience. Screen is there, but there's not much reason to turn it on. Viewfinder is your best friend :) And if compare it to iPhone, I guess it is still better. Mobile phones these days do too much automatic image processing.
@@39exposures absolutely. I get a lot of comments on my “I like old camera” videos saying that I’m stupid and should just use a phone because it’s bEtTeR iMaGe qUaLiTy but it all comes down to what you want to get out of it. An iPhone shooter might rave about the dynamic range and depth of field capturing the entirety of the scene, but its also great to use limited dynamic range, sometimes a shallow DOF, and sometimes a very tight focal length as tools to conceal unnecessary parts of the image and put emphasis on my subject.
@@andrewdoeshair Well, not everybody needs BeTtEr iMaGe quality indeed :) Somebody looks for experience. And I totally agree on phone's technical limitation towards its optics. You can have 1-2 focal distances to operate with if it's a phone (with very limited control over the aperture). And pro level SLR (even an old one) is a pro level SLR (even an analog one). Love your channel by the way!
Go back to 2007 this camera was the one every wedding photographer used due to its then hi iso performance. I loved mine. Upgraded to a Nikon D700 though that was better in every way
Hey man, really enjoyed the video! You have basically summarized my thougths perfectly. Bought it in 2018 as a fun cheap camera that I could toss around while travelling or with friends and felt in love with it. Whenever I am shooting for money, my sony cameras are the ones on my bag. They just make my life easier. Shooting for personal stuff and for enjoying photography? This is the digital camera that I am going to pick no doubt about it. Now I am trying to go a step further by diving into film photography with my dad´s Minolta and a 50mm. Knowing that every shot cost "x" amount of money and that I really have to work for it has made me into a sharper, slower and better photographer (just like the 5D did back in the day).
I agere with a lot of what you say. The 5D is the only camera that I have not sold on after its useful life for me. Meaning its still very useful. You really should shoot more raw. It is only when you use the recovery tool that you get to know the cameras true dynamic range. It is surpassed by most moderns dslrs, but not by as much as you would think. The CCD gives something special to every shot and I love the look.
I really should spend some time getting to know the raw files, it’s just been hard to want to do it since it’s like, what I aim to get from raw I can get ten times better from my R6 and what I aim to get from shooting Jpeg I can get ten times better with my 5D… Shooting raw with my 5D or jpeg with my R6 feels like using a Lamborghini to go off roading and a Bronco to drag race 😂
It is the Pastel King. When you're tired of seeing neon green grass on your TV & phone, the 5D beckons. Try the 50/1.2L or Sigma EX 50/1.4 to make it truly sing.
My main shooter camera is the Sony A7RV but if i want fun excitement and enjoyment i grab my 5D classic everytime. Now here's a tip for you that will make you fall in love with your 5Dc all over again. You can actually check for critical sharpness on the backscreen if you raise your sharpness levels all the way up to 7. I've also managed to create a preset profile that actually makes the images look great in the back of the camera too. Use AWB or a fixed kelvin value of 5800 depending on your taste, then use the Faithful picture profile with sharpness all the way up to 7, contrast all the way back to minus, and saturation all the up to +. Leave color tone alone. I use this all the time when shooting raw so i can have a better representation of the histogram on the back of the screen. Just give it a try. Especially the sharpness to 7 will do all the magic for you as you will now be able to see where you focused pretty accurately. It helps to look at the backscreen from a certain distance like 50cm cause the low resolution will be perceived as HD at the right viewing distance. The images now come out alive from this thing. Hope that helped. Let me know how you like it. Cheers
imho this is a great tip - provided you’re committed to a raw workflow. All that sharpening gets baked into your jpeg, and there’s no way of dialling that back afterwards. If I know I’ll be editing my shots then this is the way I go - but if I want to use the JPEG’s I have to embrace the hit-and-hope focusing system (or play it safe with my DOF)
Late comment but I know what you mean. I have a newer camera but it has a small sensor, so you have to think about low light and dynamic range because it can't capture everything. I've learned to enjoy the limitations and make the best of them. I may have to pick up a 5D for some of that Jpeg magic though.
Pentax just launched a very basic film camera (Pentax 17) which has some toy camera like features .... for $550 !!!! I just bought my 2nd 5D for $200. There is no area where the Pentax film camera will produce a better image than the 5D. I can't believe these 5D cameras aren't just snapped up at this insane price. I really have to stop myself from buying all of them, because fairly soon the film hipsters will discover them, and they'll be $1,000.
The reason why people like the 5d ? The image are a real representation of the world we see thru our eyes, not what camera software thinks the world should look like, heavy on greens and saturated colours . I am an old film photographer and the 5d comes very close to the old kodak ektachrome 35mm film..or the film most movies were shot in and the photos in national geographic.
I started off using portrait a lot, half the time I felt like the colors were actually way too vibrant but I decided to trust the camera and eventually my tastes shifted to appreciate the look. The next most common I use is neutral, mostly when I feel like portrait or standard are making skin look splotchy.
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At 9:34 I tried to make a point that I feel I didn’t wrap up well. Basically what I meant is that you CAN’T reproduce today the value that this camera currently offers, and that if you could it would be industry changing. I guess similar to the way you could buy a decently running older Honda today for $5,000 but you couldn’t find any new car for $5,000. And the only reason every single photographer doesn’t own one of these is probably just because it’s old so they’re worried there’s something wrong with it- but if it WAS a brand new camera at its current price it would be more common than the 50mm F1.8 STM, I mean EVERYONE would own one.
seems to be a problem with capitalism. like it’s hard to buy a car without all these unnecessary add ons because the people who buy new cars want them.
i nearly bought a fuji xt5 recently but the 40mp puts me off. 40mp!!
@@Humungojerry enough with the "problem with capitalism" take. No one wants vehicles with a bunch of unecessary bells and whistles. Social-corporatism and cronyism are the driving factors. Have you never heard "socialize losses and privatize profits"? The majority of people don't want electric cars "Green energy" technology because it's too expensive, not really sustainable from recyclable or economic perspective, but WEF and government lackies are pushing it. Nothing capitalistic about it. Nothing free market about it. Now stop drinking the Globalist kool-aide.
You mentioned in your video about the photographer that to this day shoots with 5D Classics for his paid client wedding photography work.
I know of some commercial photographers that are working with 7 year old Canon 5D SR DSLRs, even now. They have not embraced the R systems at all. They make the point that their clients come to them for the quality of their work, they don't need mirrorless systems for what they do. Granted, these are much higher resolution cameras, but the point is that professionals often keep their older systems and don't upgrade frequently because if their clients needs are met with the older systems. Why buy new bodies and lenses that are expensive and they don't bring in any more revenue? Therefore not adding to the bottom line. Upgrading can be an expensive game.
In fact when I sold off my 5D Mark IV, it was purchased last year by a wedding photographer. He already had the same body in his kit along with a Mark II and he wanted a second body that matched his main camera. His reasoning was familiarity, so switching from one camera to the other gave him the same feel and that was a comfort zone for him when on the job.
I really haven't attended to your point above, but a lot of professionals really don't want or need to upgrade their systems every year. If you apply that to casual photographers who want a flexible system, they can get a lot of horsepower out of older systems that in their time and even today are very fine systems. It's the marketing departments of the manufactures that drive the need in people to upgrade and suffer from G.A.S. They play on human weakness and desire.
Getting not so straight to your point, the performance of the 5D could really exist successfully and shamelessly in the current line-up of cameras for people today. If there were a modern day version released, the only thing I might ask for in terms of stills photography would be higher ISO range. Even the limited dynamic range of this sensor, limited as it is, seems to roll of in a very pleasing way, so I could live with it.
Hey, it`s just an old camera man not some piece of magic.
In the day it was nice, today it`s completely obsolete. No sense making more of it then it is.
@@brugj03 than
March 2024 and my primary camera is still a 5D Classic with good glass even as a professional.
‘A bland and sterile experience’…. That’s such an accurate description of using a modern mirrorless camera. I love them for the speed and accuracy, but it’s missing the soul of an old 5D…. Amazing.
What soul......??
@@brugj03 Mine. My old 5D and 5Dii remind me that I have a soul.
Sold My 5D years ago, moved to a 5D mk3 which I've never liked that much. Kept looking back fondly at shots I took with the original 5D. Today I finally admitted that I love that old 5D look, and one is now on its way for the modest sum of 140 English pounds. Can't wait to get out shooting with it!
Hit the nail on the head when you said with this camera ‘if you take a picture of nothing…it can look pretty’. I know exactly what you mean! 😊
Soooo strange! I took a picture of my window in the dark while on the McDonald’s drive thru. I focused on the raindrops on the window so the red lights of the car in front is just a huge bokeh ball and it looks BEAUTIFUL! And I thought, wow. I could just shoot photos of NOTHING!
Excellent video, totally agreed. Started shooting 15 years ago with a Cannon 40D, upgraded to a 6D, 5D MK 2, MK 3. Upgraded all of my glass to L. Sold it all to chase mirrorless dream. A Sony A7R3 and G Master lenses. I primarily shoot street, city, urban and architecture. Walking around NYC & Philly with a few thousand dollars in gear, increasingly worried about theft, dropping and repairs. Sold all of the gear. Now use a 5D classic a 24 2.8 and a 50 1.4. $400 worth of equipment, great pictures and not a worry in the world.
Great points made on this amazing camera. Love the nostalgia a camera such as Canon 5D Classic has and agree with you 100% the images, rendering and colours of this camera are special. Canon 6D is also a great camera with extra features and produces similar creamy look to photos. Together, make a formidable pair of cameras for stills photography.
This is not a rant - its a love story. I have a 6D (and recently got a mint 5D3 for action work) but actually long for the Classic, just to see what I get with it. You have made it VERY hard to resist. Fantastic story, thank you 👍
Having had the 6D, I think I can safely say that the 6D colour is very close to the Classic. Honestly I don't think you'd see much difference between these two cameras and with the 6D you have some valuable updates in the hardware.
How do you compare between 5d3 and 6d cor fast action? (focus speed etc...)
Now I'm using 5d3, thinking about copping 6d for backup. Or should i just go for another 5d3?
If I was shooting a sport where I could anticipate where the action would be (like race cars, or maybe baseball) I wouldn’t have any preference between 5Diii and 6D but if I was shooting a sport where the action can move anywhere (like basketball or hockey) I’d prefer the 5Diii. Also, there is something really nice about having the same camera as a backup for your main camera, and not having to remember the subtle differences in the controls and feeling when you go from one to the other. Small benefits to the 5Diii over 6D is weather sealing (fairly certain 6D isn’t weather sealed, as I’ve had mine freak out after light rain), 1/8000 max shutter speed (I just ordered ND filters for my fast lenses when I take out my 6D, which maxes out at 1/4000) and also with the 5Diii you can save custom file prefixes which makes multi camera jobs a lot nicer to process.
@@andrewdoeshair. Thank you for the detailed explanation. One more thing: how about low light performance comparison between them?
I just picked up a 5D and took it out this weekend… had fun shooting it.. need to look at just shooting jpgs with it…. Got it for $97…
I got a 5D Classic a year ago. I am a Sony shooter (A9/A7RIII + at least 5K on e-mount lenses). I nowadays use my 5D Classic way more than my Sony FF bodies. Like you stated, it's something about that filmic look which is great, especially when people are in the shot. Probably the best portrait camera ever. I will probably sell my A7RIII and most of my Sony e-mount lenses and keep the A9 and two zooms since it's great for fact action. Can totally relate with your thoughts Andrew.
Excellent review. I still use my Canon 5D Classic and with each photograph it surprise me with its beautiful colors. Excellent camera, excellent experience, I really enjoy it.
I got my 5D when the mark iv came out. A used 5D was still going for like 500-600$ back then, but I found one near me for 200$ in good shape.
I was actually saving my money to buy a mark iii and I had no desire to buy a mark i, but the deal was too good to pass up. Coming from a t3i, I was delighted by the heavy, chunky sound of the shutter actuation/mirror movement.
I was blown away by the files on a big screen. Its crazy how the consensus is that this particular sensor is something special.
I've had a 5D classic, a 7D, a 5DMKII and I currently own a 6D Mark I. I have to say it, there's something about the 5D classic colors that was really, really special. I just can't explain it, but the quality of the images was fantastic. I mean , it didn't even have live view, real time eye tracking, it was super heavy and it had this huge CF low capacity card slot, but man, the photography it used to produce was mind blowing.
My 5D is 18 years old. I have never regretted owning it, never lusted after newer models. Oh, BTW, lately I’ve been using it for black and white, which it renders beautifully! Looks like my beloved Plus X, may it rest in peace.
Yeah!!! I finally found a 5d classic fan base.
I keep on buying these cameras for nothing. I own 3 now, and none of them is broken down. I bought them for friends even.
With this camera i can do things i would never do wuth another camera, like photographing my son swimming, because it is just not that expensive.
But the result is priceless
Man, that was just phenomenol! I JUST bought the 5D for almost the exact reasons, the big one being full frame over crop sensor curiosity. It's coming in a few days and this was just the review I needed to see! Thanks for doing it!
I’ve been using the 5D every single day for almost a year now and it’s completely transformed photography for me. Revived my interest in the hobby completely. If you cruise over to my instagram (@Andrewdoeshair) I’ve got a lot more portraits with the 5D over there.
@@andrewdoeshair I had gone over there earlier as well. I appreciated your post on focal length and the effect upon one's face. i suppose I'm going to have to resent you though because you put a "need" in me for a 135 f2! :-) When my wife complains, I'll blame that post! :-)
Dude, amazing! It’s your authenticity and honesty that makes this „non-review“ one of the best about 5dC.
Cheers
This was my exact experience/reaction 😊 when i got mine roughly 2yrs plus. This gem reignites your passion for photography. Someone said the first iterations of most camera models had all the sauce, love and passion put into their first models making them absolutely special and that's absolutely true.
Agreed. I used this camera 4 years ago when I started getting into Photography to document my sons birth but it wasn't long before I went down the rabbit hole of buying up cameras just for the sake of it. The was some intention there from a business perspective but mostly I just wanted to try out different cameras but due to COVID couldn't get to the stores. I'd say to this day that the Canon 5D Classic and the Fujifilm X-Pro 1 are the two ''vintage' digital cameras I enjoying shooting most and come back to them both time and time again. I'm currently in the process of selling off some gear.
I've tried Pentax, Fuji (multiple), Nikon, Olympus, and I ended up with a 5d with the 40mm pancake as well. It's wonderful!
You nailed it!! Basically, what you said is the core fundamentals of photography is what's important!! Too many people teaching photography totally miss this. You're a photographer who doesn't earn his living from photography, but you totally get it. You need to have a solid foundation with the basics in ANYTHING you do if you want to be good at it.
I am tired of people saying you have to have a 1.2 lens and set the camera to eye focus, blah blah blah...... I do the focus-recompose method of focusing with the center focus point, and I never have a problem with my images being in focus.
The images you posted on this video are amazing.....Thanks for posting!
For few of us we’ve come full circle. In the early 2000’s I mainly shot with film cameras then in 2007/2008 I transitioned to dslr. Was shooting with dslr’s until 2018 then I went mirrorless. Mirrorless is great and I love them. However newer mirrorless camera seem to have AI that is able to do everything for you, which can take the fun out of taking photos. It’s just funny to me because that’s what so many people wanted. A very high tech camera with superb focus accuracy, and color rendering etc. But now here we are, where some of us are yearning for cameras of yesterday years. 😅
I can't brag about getting mine for $120, as I bought it new right after it came out in 2005.
For the past year I've been thinking of donating it, as part of decluttering, but couldn't quite do it. Now I'm glad I didn't.
Just this month I finally dug it up, dusted it off, replaced the long-dead battery, and have done some snaps with it. It is just as you describe - with so many of the modern features missing, it very much slows you down and makes you think about the process - like the old film days before it.
I still have all my old glass too. I've been using it on a speedbooster with the Panasonic, which gives me the low light and video fix the old girl can't, but that's not quite the full frame look it was meant for.
Good video.
This is the best camera review I've seen on youtube. You explained your use case and the pros and cons so clearly and objectively. I would love it if this were more the general vibe of camera youtube. Great work!
I jumped on the bandwagon and bought one for $140,within a couple of days I bent a CF card pin and had to send it off for repair ($143). I tried to wait but I was dying to try the camera out so I got another one for $127 and really liked the way it operates.Coming from a film background,it was a lot more familiar.I am now REALLY CAREFUL when messing with the CF card.So now the other one is repaired and serviced,I have two.......................................................
Awesome video! Great watch! Ever since watching this video 8 months ago. I now own 2 5D Classics! Great walk around camera! This camera truly brings you back to the basics. Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks for the feedback! You should check out the 40D as well. Very similar charm, but with a snappier response and a surprisingly fast burst rate. I got one for $40 and another for $60, and I’ve been enjoying them in cases where I want more reach with less size- like when I would have used the 5D with a 70-200mm lens instead I’ll grab the 40D with a 24-105 F4 or a 100mm F2 and it’s way more manageable to throw into my shoulder bag
What an honest video!
I've had a Canon 5D Classic sitting on the shelf for 13 years due to a broken rear screen. I can see the menus, but the image review feature doesn't work. During that time I also had a Canon 6D (unfortunately stolen) and a 5D Mark IV replaced the 6D. I had the holy trinity of lenses for the Mark IV with the 24-70 L, 85 and 70-200 lenses plus a 40mm pancake. Last year I sold off all of my FF camera gear save for the inactive 5D Classic and a 40 mm f2.8 pancake lens that nobody wanted and that ultimately was a fortunate no sale outcome.
I switched over to M43 for my main gear, YES, M43. It's an Olympus E-M1 Mark III fabulous system that does everything that I need. And I do use this for 90% of my photo work.....worth a try for anyone that is curious. When required, the latest noise reduction software in Lr works brilliantly.
......until about 6 months ago, I was cleaning up and picked up the 5D classic. I realized that the camera is perfectly functional even without the working real screen, it was my own insecurity that had me shelf the camera. I recognized that I don't need to chimp with this camera. It captures the images flawlessly to the CF card and as long as my exposure settings are correct I get amazing images. Working with this camera is almost like the film days. I don't get to see the results until I get back to my computer. I'm never disappointed with the output from this camera, but I may be disappointed with my own performance.
The simplicity of the menus and shooting with focus and recompose is a through-back to the time. It's like the primal roots of digital photography. I often find myself taking this camera along for street photography or for random captures while out on a bike ride. If you have healthy batteries, this thing can support taking at least 1,000 shots on one charge if you manage your power usage.
That said, I've not used the .jpg feature on this camera. That's something that you've inspired me to try out. After all if I shoot raw and .jpg I'm covered if I need the raws. Perhaps, like you, I'll find that the .jpgs are such a joy that I won't need to shoot in raw. But then the file sizes in today's terms are small and don't require a lot of storage, so keeping the raws as an original negative style archival backup is not such a bad idea.
Real magic seems to ooze from of this camera. It truly is only limited by the experience and talent of the user. I may just have to get another body as a back up.
I really enjoyed this. Very relatable. I’ve actually never even tried shooting jpeg on my 5D classic. You convinced my that I really need to try it.
I sold my 5D Classic few years ago, I had it for many years. I bought 5D mark 3, and now when I go back and see those photos from the old 5D, I see a huge difference in rendering. I wasn't seeing it before, as that was it at that time. Now I regret selling it. But the extra regret I have is that I bought that 5D classic from a young photographer who kind of got a cult status now, and I had his camera which was just so cool. I am an idiot for selling it. I'll buy it again, just because I miss it. But it won't be the same as having that original one I had :(
I shot several concerts at the Whiskey-A-Go-Go and Troubadour with a Canon 5D, 50mm 1.8, and 200mm f2.8L. Never had low light issues. Like you said, it forces you to follow the lights and time your pictures for when your subject is in a light up part of the stage.
I’ve got both the 5D and the 6D. I use the 6D for more professional use and the 5D for more personal projects. Sometimes vice-versa. They both have really good sensors.
Loved your video. I'm a fan of the 5D classic and enjoy most videos put out by creators talking about this wonderful camera. It's not perfect but it's lovely.
Great video. Lo ve the 5D classic and the aps-c cameras from the same era like the 30D and 40D.
As a musician, i kind of draw the analogy of new, state of the art modelling amps trying to emulate classic Fender and Marshall tube amps. Perhaps an idea may be to buy an actual tube amp?
The flawless tech of new cameras; we edit to look like film, assume various casts and gradations etc. As you’ve stated, clearly they have way more latitude, speed, practicality but we lose the ‘soul’ somewhere. The 5D is pure photography.
I was thinking of the exact same analogy, solid state amps vs tube amps.... vinyl versus digital...
I had an early 2MP point and shoot Canon, and then (after I left it on the beach) a 20D. They had that wonderful film-like (tubey ; ) look, and when I cropped into the pictures it still stayed film-like. Nowdays, with my M50 mark II while it has so many more pixels, but as I zoom / crop in, especially as I move away from ISO 100, the images quickly become useless. Jagged, the noise breaking up the image into shattered bts and pieces, color and tone draining out fast.
I am looking to get that back, and as I flipped through the Flickr shots people posted with 5D classic are so much like those older shots I did with the 20D. (Since, sadly, my 20D passed away to camera-ever land, hence the M50.) Also, with higher ISO the 20D/5D gives that graceful transition into what looks like film grain, instead of becoming jagged, disruptive and alien. I am really tempted to pull the trigger on a classic.... esp as I can use the 20Ds battery, battery charger and CF card. (They are compatible ;). No kidding, my 20D original Canon battery still works well after 15+ years.....
@@realworldaudio the 20D from 2004 and it’s predecessor the D60 (2002) were great Canon aps-c cameras. They helped pave the way for the 5D. I made my living off of these 2 cameras from 2002-2010 and looking back in the images they are almost painterly, just beautiful. I sold them long ago and today the 5D is one of my go-to cameras.
Man you nailed it! My 5D does everything you just says it does.
I like to use spot metering and let everything else just disappear. ( just like you said )
I also really enjoy iso 800 in B&W.
It wasn’t until I got this camera that I started using exposure lock in aperture priority, and as soon as it clicked I felt like I’d wasted the last ten years scrolling the thumb wheel back and forth while shooting. Back button focus, half press shutter for exposure lock, BAM, fast and accurate. So much fun to shoot that way.
Still rocking my 5d classic with nifty fifty and 70-200 and I love it, it's also a good travel camera because if you lose it or it gets damaged, then it's budget enough to buy again 😁
Even though I have gear that's more current and faster auto focus, the 5d just has this nice feeling to the images that come out of it....
Thanks for the great "rant" 😄great vid 👌🏻
You get it 😎
I ALMOST sold mine! I had it before. Them gave it away to a church friend who was getting started with photography but I missed the images so much. So I purchased it again. But I wanted to thin down my gear for simplicity. And I wanted to get the x100t. (Which I also sold and immediately regretted it.) so I went online, set up a trade for my d750 and my 5D classic. But I also immediately went to FB marketplace and put up my d750 for sale. It sold immediate for the price of the x100t! So I could keep my 5D, and I’m sooo glad I did!
The 5D helped me find again, what I had lost over the years using digital gear. Your words have articulated so succinctly, how I've been feeling about photography for such a long time. Between the 5D(Classic), and my D700, all the basic elements of photography bring me joy again without newer and complicated technologies getting in the way. I can grab the 5D after not using it for months and just use it without complication. Great phots and content Andrew. Thank you for posting.
7 minutes in and I’ve been in eBay and bought one. Now hunting for a lens. Been thinking about it for a couple of years and thought sod it. Love the video, love the photos.
I bought my classic 5d when it first came out, feels like a million years ago, still works great.Thanks for your thoughts on this camera, agree with all!
The 5d classic is special, anyone who disputes this is either a Canon hater or someone who hasn't used one. I've owned many cameras like you and came back to the 5d classic. Twice. More compliments with this camera. I'm now looking for a second because I want a back up.
lack of af microadjustment is a bummer though. I don't think I would pick one up today due to that. I've got two bodies that has back focus issues.
"Anyone who disputes this .... "
What about me who had one and sold it because it's just too outdated? Dust issues, back focusing issues, not as reliable as the ii.. lovely colours but there's just a lot of cons. With the price the ii is going for nowadays, I will pick the 5D ii.
Just not the same...have them both...5D ii doesent have the same colors...period@@ShutterKnack
Love this. Such a great counterpoint to all the consumerism on youtube. And I love that feeling of shooting on cheap gear!
Good video. I just got my 5D. I had to re-glue the mirror but otherwise the camera is in great shape. The very first picture I shot with it - when I pulled it off the camera and looked at it untouched, my jaw dropped. I shoot a R5 and R6 as a daily driver, mostly for wildlife. I couldn't take a lot of those pictures with the 5D but man, there is something special about the images it produces. Pick yourself up a 300D or a 10D (they are essentially the same and a working one can be had for $20) and you'll find its got a lot of the same vibe as the 5D. My theory is that when these early DSLRs were being created, the engineers used film prints to calibrate the colors and tone. That slowly morphed into the precision color science we have today. I also have a D60 which was the second DSLR Canon made and its similar but really hard to get a picture with unless you're in bright sun or studio lights.
@@msmith2016 love it. My workhorse was an R6 for the past few years but as I kept playing with these older DSLRs (40D, 6D, 5D) I developed more and more of a distaste for both the final product and also the experience of the R6. I just got a 70D to use for my video work (simple videos like this one, or haircuts, which is even simpler) and I ditched my R6. I got a 5Diii for when I need to snap my kids sprinting around the yard, and now that I’ve used so many of canons newer and older models I feel like the 5Diii was a perfect sort of middle ground where the colors just barely started to become less than ideal but the ergonomics and controls made for a camera that could react as quickly as I can. After that the mirrorless line has been hit or miss on controls (too many menu dives) and it feels like canon thought they were losing sales to Sony over their colors. In a very simple sense, canon stopped making fun cameras, it started to feel like shooting with a pricey phone
I honestly feel this same way when I shoot with my Canon XSI. What is funny is I feel more confident shooting with it than more modern cameras. It was my first and I learned every little thing about it and its limitations where most cameras now, you could never know everything about them because it is so much to use. I got so good with jpeg shooting that I knew my presents already and how they would look before I took the shot. So I knew to switch to other jpeg picture style settings in advance because I knew the image I would get already. Amazing experience.
Thanks Andrew. You are correct about the 5D classic being a bit of work to get good results. I love shooting mine, having come from the Kodachrome days, with it's Kodachrome like limited dynamic range and exposure latitude. Certainly not a camera for the novice but great for an old experienced shooter from the film days looking for a more organic look. I put some of my 5D prints up against my Kodachrome prints and there is a general similarity if one doesn't look too close. Probably would also be a good camera to give to beginning students in photo school.
Thanks for the feedback! I have a friend who keeps trying to buy and edit his way into better photos and he’s always complaining that his shots aren’t good enough so he must need to replace his $1,200 85mm with a $2,700 85mm… When he’s asked my advice I told him to slap a 50mm F1.8 on a 5D classic and shoot JPEGs only, I also told him to delete Lightroom for a while. He said “but my photos would suck then!” And I said “exactly, so your only option is to take better ones!” Basically exactly what you’re saying, if you do everything right with this camera it really pays off, but when you want the camera to do the work for you- this isn’t the one 😂
I was gifted a 5dmk2 and I tried it using again for a client
And Damn the files are still good for my liking
Dude, that was really entertaining to watch. I watched myself fall in love with this camera while watching the video!! what a ride! Gonna get one!
I really enjoyed your honest reactions to the Canon 5D. I just got one with three lenses for $100 at a swap meet . One lens wasn't an EF though it will be used with an adapter anyway ! I love my camera and am going to get another. Good to have spares and a great camera for a friend to try. I also have a 30D that has the exact same buttons and menu and I really enjoy that camera too, though it's not full frame. I really think the 5D Classic has become my all time favorite straight out of camera jpeg wonder ! You'll definitely become a better photographer with this camera guaranteed ! Really enjoyed your video.
I bought this camera in 2006 and shot with it for many years (no money to upgrade). My mirror fell off while in Jamaica during the first shoot on a 45 day trip! But fairly recently I upgraded to the 5D Mark IV and hadn't even gotten used to that camera when the R5 came out. For years I resisted moving to mirrorless but had to go for the eye autofocus that the R5 had. Although I wouldn't go back to a dSLR at this point, I did love my 5D classic for the many years I owned it. The camera is simply a tool and it is up to the photographer to get out of it what they want. "It's All About The Image".
I loved my 5D, and like you, my mirror dropped out mid-wedding... then I felt I could never trust it again for paid work.
I still shot Canon (now a 5Dii) but might go for a 1DXii if it drops in price, which it surely will as people move to mirrorless instead.
BTW, I agree that I felt a bit like in the analogue days when I used it, I had to think more, read the light carefully and wait for all to fall into place before hitting the shutter. That is not a bad thing, it just makes me become a "better" photographer thinking outside the box. Not trusting a camera which shoots 100 frames a second with a dynamic range stretching from pitch black night to the Sahara midday sun + a resolution of astronomical proportions.
Andrew, just stumbled on your channel, pure fantastic energy DUDE, respect from London
Love my 5d Classic. Love the files that come out of it. My wife's Fujifilm comes a close second.
I love the 5D. I carried it around today. Got great photos. But also, I've had a Ricoh GRiii in my pocket every day for the last two years. Love it. :-)
I watched your video from beginning to end and I really, really sympathize with your feeling about using a "previous generation" camera. I was also shooting with the R6 until recently and the second I started shooting with it I didn't connect. Its technical perfection and bad colors really emptied me of the desire to go out and take pictures. And the pictures from it required a lot of computer processing from me to bring the picture to a place I would be happy with. I recently returned to a previously owned camera. The 5 is quite a Mark 3. I want to tell you that already on the first picture I understood what I was missing. The lack of a wide dynamic range, the simplicity of shooting with single focus points (without sophisticated eye tracking) simply made the photography experience much more enjoyable. Thanks for an excellent video.
FYI: The dirt inside the viewfinder/prism of my classic was bugging me, so followed a RUclips video how to clean. Disassembled the focusing screen, others screen and gave them a good clean. Now my back focusing issue is gone. Whether the clean or the reassembly fixed it, don’t know. It just works perfect now. 😊
That’s good to know! I might have to do that. I noticed that my diopter doesn’t have a sweet spot, or at least when it’s as good as it gets it still looks soft. I’ve wondered if it would be worth it to tear the camera apart and see if something is grimy or crooked in there
At 19.29 - 'A good photograph doesn't capture everything in a scene - but hides what you don't need to see in the scene. I love that BTW.
I think the 5d Classic major strength is its huge pixel pitch (FF sensor & 12MP) and the amazing colour depth. I wasn't even aware of the technical advantage when I started shooting with the camera. I - for the same reasons as you had gotten tired of the 'see it all' results of modern sensors, and the 5D classic produces a look that always brings a smile to the face. Even a boring subject has a 'beautiful boring' look.
Thanks for the video/review/rant - I much agree with all your findings. The other cameras I've experienced shooting with, that provide a similar feel to the images are the Fujifilm X-pro 1 (1st gen XTrans sensor) with the Fuji 35mm f1.4, and the Panasonic Lumix GF1 with the Lumix 20mm f1.7. Both of them have their limits (dynamic range) but the mood they give to the pictures can't be matched by modern sensors and their edited images.
I purchased the og 5d new when the 5dii came out and I still have it. It's very temperamental. Screen works when it wants to and it randomly won't write to cards. I've had every iteration of 5d but this is the only one I kept(mostly for sentimental reasons). It's funny because it was insane saving up for expensive digital while shooting film for years. Now I shoot digital and can't afford film lmao. I need to get another 5d or 6d. My sonys are uninspiring tools most of the time but they get the job done. I still have a bunch of EF L glass that I use on Sony lol.
The reasons behind love for this camera are unexplainable. One has to feel it inside.
It's yesterday once more. Love this camera.
Great Rant !! ;-) ...... Since I got my 5D Classic, my EOS R sits on the shelf most of the time. it's amazing what this camera can deliver if you get it right. The colors, the vibe, you look at the photos and think: wow that is a nice photo! And if you have lenses that work well with this camera, you can take amazing sharp photos. I am mostly at around F2.8 and it almost always works well. Thankx again ! ...
Bring on all the rants. Love your perspectives.
Well, I have 2 Canon Camera's the 50d & the 5 d classic, I'm blessed with the choice of brilliant cameras'
Totally agree. I have a 5D Classic, and had no qualms cutting down the mirror to fit old M42 lenses on there.
I've used the 5D classic professional for weddings just fine for years.
Everything you said resonates with me. Enjoyed this very much 👌
thank you. you come off like a real photographer, the kind i knew when i took my MA in art/photography. you feel the experience -- that's what it feels like. when i shoot i experience the light flowing onto my sensor ( ok, yeah, it's like that ). so, i bought this camera just now, and i'll be using it with my old Leica R summicron. going to vienna and i'm getting old and my 1dx ii is getting too heavy ! so, i'm very excited about your experience with the look of the image. i've been shooting canon since the AE-1 and on and on because i really like canon color. thank you again for the wonderful review. happy shooting!
Thank you. It is like driving a car with a manual transmission 🙂
just watched your video, and i am new to this and just bought a 5d classic for $225 it came with a 40mm voightlander lens . and love it so far. the lens online used is $469 so i feel like i got a good deal.
Thank you for the video! It's been emotional.
I have a strong feeling that I have to get one for myself.
Just imagine how mindblowing it could get, if I've only been using cropped 550D and 600D before! In fact, I've used 5D mk II for couple days like 10 years ago, but didn't quite know what to do with it back then. Glad I found your video, it did help a lot.
Hi Andrew.
The analogy that springs to mind about this post is you've learnt how to cook and enjoy the taste, smells and process of what you've created compared to fancy, yet predictable, takeaways you've gotten used to.
My equivalent of the Canon classic is the Nikon D700 with a following as devoted to it as the Canon users are to the classic.
The histroy of iconic photographs was done on cameras using manuel focusing. The method can still sit happily beside autofocus today (no problems with jpegs either)
So, enjoy your new lease of life as photographer using the classic and reengaging with the those techniques you spoke of and the sense of accomplishment too.
Fiinally, I use a quick release wrist strap made of parachute cord for my Nikon D700 because it may of only cost a few quid, however, the images and memories created while using it are priceless.
Sending good vibes from London and enjoy the rest of your day.
Loved the “rant”, I read a post on Reddit and someone asked which is a good ancient camera with a CCD sensor, and they got ripped apart for being a hipster. People were saying “so you want a crappy camera then”. I certainly agree with your points, I brought an Olympus e300 and a Sony A7c and GM lens on a 10 day trip. I think my keep rate on the “crappy” e300 was like 20 percent but I loved all of them over the Sony. Personally for me, maybe I’m a hipster wanting to go back to dinosaur cameras from shooting with the best of the best, but both the shooting experience and photos from these cameras are much more haptic. I’m in the market for a 5d classic too. Of course, like you, I’m keeping new tech cameras mainly because I wife wants good pictures of the kids in tough lighting situations, but if there’s good lighting during the day, I’m using these 150 dollar cameras all day.
For me it keeps coming back to “the camera I have on me” and the camera that makes me WANT to shoot. I grab my R6 when I know I absolutely have to get the shot, I use my iPhone when I didn’t plan to shoot but saw a reason to, and I grab this 5D when I just WANT to shoot. I don’t recall if I mentioned this in this video, but with my R6 I’ll get 200-300 shots in an evening and be thrilled with 2-3 of them, where with the 5D I’ll shoot 50-60 and be thrilled with 5-6 of them. Very rarely do I bring the 5D and wish I’d brought the R6, usually it’s cases where the kids are running around in unpredictable patterns, and maybe once it’s been dynamic range frustrations, but I find that most of the time when I do bring the R6 I leave it in the bag, or I’ll get a billion shots and dread digging through them later.
@@andrewdoeshair yeah absolutely , the Olympus makes me want to take it out. In fact, it was so dirt cheap, I keep it in my work backpack (no other protection) because I never know when a morning light will hit the flowers or architecture just right. It really takes me back to when I carried a Pentax MX with a roll of Provia around all day. You do slow down and appreciate the lighting / overall mood of the scene more because of their limitations. And you’re right, when presented with a darker situation, you begin to broaden your perspective of light and dark rather than focus on what you can do to post process all the dark or highlight details back in. All great points and I’m really excited to get the 5Dc having just sold my 5d4 like a week ago.
@@3sgtepwnzr oh man thats a whole other thing that blew my mind- I took for granted the cost difference between old and new gear. I’d been using newer stuff for so long that I wasn’t even flinching at $2,000+ for a lens or body, but when I sold my RF 70-200 I was able to buy this body AND a budget trinity (EF 17-40mm F4L, EF 50mm F1.8 STM, and Tamron 70-210mm F4) for less than half of what my RF 70-200 sold for. Like I got fully kitted out for less than the cheapest RF L series lens. Because I most seriously shoot portraits I do keep some equity parked in more serious lenses in the 85-135 range but for standard and wide lenses this exercise has absolutely made me start looking at $200ish 30 year old lenses (like I’m pretty close to getting canon’s 28mm F1.8 and their 100mm F2 to bring with my 50 1.8 for a tiny fast prime kit with the 5D).
I understand what you want to say. I wouldn't want to shoot non-paid jobs with the 5D Classic, or one-off opportunities. Just because of the focus, that would be too uncertain for me. But for private photography just for fun, it's more fun than with the new cameras. Their focus is so good it's less fun. This perfection is boring and makes me feel worse. So I'm happy to live in a world where I can have both, depending on my mood.
I also got a 5D, and it was the best purchase I ever made. I tried a Canon 800D, 6D, RP, and none of those cameras comes close to the experience and feeling of the Canon 5D classic. This is a camera that's gonna get expensive soon.
Brilliant review! I bought a 5D classic when it came out, as that coincided with my fist kid arriving and it’s still going strong. I’ve recently been looking at newer cameras, with a degree of envy, but came to the same conclusion as you that my iPhone is fine for group photos and every day use, when I don’t want to carry around a big camera. I’ve taken a few group photos with the 5D that I found quite disappointing, but almost every portrait I’ve taken and especially those with moody lighting have been stunning. I’m going to stop worrying about newer cameras now! 😊
Thanks for the feedback! Not to attempt to cause harm ti your wallet 😂 but don’t completely rule out the newer stuff, it has its perks still! I recently took my young children to an amusement park and felt like kind of a dork bringing along my R6 with a 70-210, but now I’m glad I did it because I’ve got amazing shots of their faces lighting up on rides that I couldn’t have gotten with an iPhone or with my 5D. Whenever I think about ditching the R6 I find a situation where I’m glad I have it. Although if the R8 was out at the time that I got my R6, I’d have that and not this 😋
@@andrewdoeshair
Yes, completely see your point.
Another temptation is a small mirrorless camera like the Fujifilm Xpro and Leica Q cameras. I have a mate who has both and the pictures they produce are lovely, with similarly superb JPEG colours. They don’t draw the same reaction from subjects as big DSLRs and I imagine they’d be great for some of your work. Very pricey though!
So happy to hear there is someone else in the world who loves shooting JPG and not spending lifetime editing .... great video.....
Thank you! I think I mentioned this in the video but switching to jpeg made photography way more fun again. For years it was neat to see what I could do in post but the time and storage to do that started to feel like a huge price tag for taking photos, and it made me shoot less often. Now I shoot jpeg for fun and raw for work
Such an enjoyable video, thank you for posting!!!
Thank for your lengthy rants! Although I find the 6D to be better camera overall I still like the look of the images the 5D can produce (when I get it right) and I would be using my 5D way more than I do if it had had WiFi or Bluetooth capabilities. One solution is to pull the SD card out of the 5D (using a card adapter) and stick it into my 6D which as you know has WiFi but if there's an easier solution I would love to know about it. Thanks for your lengthy rants, you're by far the RUclipsr I feel I have the most in common with when it comes to photo and photo gear.
Thanks! I just picked up a 6D to use when it’s too dark for the 5D. I did a lengthy rant about that one, too 😂 and then I decided to add a 40D to the collection, as well. Between those three I’m quite happy with my kit these days
Having a 14 year old here who seem to be very interested and talented in photography beyond just taking cellphone pics .. but she's used too and expecting modern cell phone technology. I'd like to know how to wirelessly connect a 40D or 5D to a cellphone. If that's not possible I will just have to get her a 6D and a 40mm ;-) @@andrewdoeshair
i have two 5d's... thinking about hoarding a few more as they are criminally cheap. (just found one for $95 in 9+ condition) or get a 6d or two. my current EDC (5d+40mm pancake) cost me less than a Leica Battery... if that sensor was housed in a Leica M body or in a more vintage looking SLR à la Fujji XTsomething, sold at a premium, hipsters and film bros would be all over it. The unique rendering combined with a weak low pass filter (it looks sharper than some of my much more modern cameras that have higher MP count) makes this camera a true classic. no problem checking for focus on the LCD as i push the sharpness to the max on the jpg preview. i barely touch my other rigs unless i need the speed and low light capabilities...
Excelent video. Its time to stock up on dslr gear before the kids make it hip and expensive again
Saw this comment as I walk from the mailbox with a 6D I just bought to use as a daily carry since this 5D has been frustrating to use in the winter months when it’s dark half the day
im also browsing for a copy myself and totally feel ya on this disgusting weather for photopgraphy. I basically only shoot BW these days because everything is flat otherwise @@andrewdoeshair
I still have mine, got it brand new in 2007. Based on photo archives, my shutter is way beyond 500,000. In my opinion, the best Canon FF ever made…btw Kodak developed that sensor.
Nice video, fun to watch. At 70 now, I used a Leica M-3 in the 1970's. Every shot was a guess until you printed a contact sheet. One thing I can't stand about digital cameras are the menus, the 5D has a short and sweet menu, you even have to manually choose the ISO. Thanks for the rant!
Man...I agree so much with what you said! I'd love to have a beer with you!
I just picked one up. You’re right it’s fun to shoot and use!
My God, Kai from DRTV
What a throw back ^^
You’re awesome, we’re always looking for that special look buying camera after camera ,all the the latest and greatest technology and overlook the old cameras because they’re too old . I have a huge collection of old cameras because they have character and are not complicated, just stick a good lens in front and you almost have the Leica look . I think that’s the look we’re looking for 😊😊😊
I'm shooting film and lately I just tried 400D (got it almost for free). I must say, old SLR is not that far away from analog experience. Screen is there, but there's not much reason to turn it on. Viewfinder is your best friend :) And if compare it to iPhone, I guess it is still better. Mobile phones these days do too much automatic image processing.
@@39exposures absolutely. I get a lot of comments on my “I like old camera” videos saying that I’m stupid and should just use a phone because it’s bEtTeR iMaGe qUaLiTy but it all comes down to what you want to get out of it. An iPhone shooter might rave about the dynamic range and depth of field capturing the entirety of the scene, but its also great to use limited dynamic range, sometimes a shallow DOF, and sometimes a very tight focal length as tools to conceal unnecessary parts of the image and put emphasis on my subject.
@@andrewdoeshair Well, not everybody needs BeTtEr iMaGe quality indeed :) Somebody looks for experience. And I totally agree on phone's technical limitation towards its optics. You can have 1-2 focal distances to operate with if it's a phone (with very limited control over the aperture). And pro level SLR (even an old one) is a pro level SLR (even an analog one). Love your channel by the way!
Go back to 2007 this camera was the one every wedding photographer used due to its then hi iso performance. I loved mine. Upgraded to a Nikon D700 though that was better in every way
Hey man, really enjoyed the video! You have basically summarized my thougths perfectly. Bought it in 2018 as a fun cheap camera that I could toss around while travelling or with friends and felt in love with it. Whenever I am shooting for money, my sony cameras are the ones on my bag. They just make my life easier. Shooting for personal stuff and for enjoying photography? This is the digital camera that I am going to pick no doubt about it. Now I am trying to go a step further by diving into film photography with my dad´s Minolta and a 50mm. Knowing that every shot cost "x" amount of money and that I really have to work for it has made me into a sharper, slower and better photographer (just like the 5D did back in the day).
Many Nikon cameras also have a nice rendition. CCD sensors are worth a look depending on the camera of course,
tnx mate! yours comment to black just stay black made me shot underexposed and i like it!
canon jpeg in neutral or faithful profile are amazing in colours.
I agere with a lot of what you say. The 5D is the only camera that I have not sold on after its useful life for me. Meaning its still very useful.
You really should shoot more raw. It is only when you use the recovery tool that you get to know the cameras true dynamic range. It is surpassed by most moderns dslrs, but not by as much as you would think.
The CCD gives something special to every shot and I love the look.
I really should spend some time getting to know the raw files, it’s just been hard to want to do it since it’s like, what I aim to get from raw I can get ten times better from my R6 and what I aim to get from shooting Jpeg I can get ten times better with my 5D… Shooting raw with my 5D or jpeg with my R6 feels like using a Lamborghini to go off roading and a Bronco to drag race 😂
Great, great video. I had two 5 d's, both stolen, looking for the third. I realize I've been missing that solid "clunk" when you press the shutter.
It is the Pastel King. When you're tired of seeing neon green grass on your TV & phone, the 5D beckons. Try the 50/1.2L or Sigma EX 50/1.4 to make it truly sing.
My main shooter camera is the Sony A7RV but if i want fun excitement and enjoyment i grab my 5D classic everytime. Now here's a tip for you that will make you fall in love with your 5Dc all over again. You can actually check for critical sharpness on the backscreen if you raise your sharpness levels all the way up to 7. I've also managed to create a preset profile that actually makes the images look great in the back of the camera too. Use AWB or a fixed kelvin value of 5800 depending on your taste, then use the Faithful picture profile with sharpness all the way up to 7, contrast all the way back to minus, and saturation all the up to +. Leave color tone alone. I use this all the time when shooting raw so i can have a better representation of the histogram on the back of the screen. Just give it a try. Especially the sharpness to 7 will do all the magic for you as you will now be able to see where you focused pretty accurately. It helps to look at the backscreen from a certain distance like 50cm cause the low resolution will be perceived as HD at the right viewing distance. The images now come out alive from this thing. Hope that helped. Let me know how you like it. Cheers
Very interesting. I’ll surely check that out. Thanks.
I looked into the menu of my 5dc but couldn’t find the point where to raise the sharpness. How does this work?
@@stephanscharf5524 Go to picture style, choose faithful, sharpness at +7, contrast all the way to minus, and raise the saturation to your likings
imho this is a great tip - provided you’re committed to a raw workflow. All that sharpening gets baked into your jpeg, and there’s no way of dialling that back afterwards. If I know I’ll be editing my shots then this is the way I go - but if I want to use the JPEG’s I have to embrace the hit-and-hope focusing system (or play it safe with my DOF)
@@timhyson Yes. It only applies to Raw shooters
definitely buying one of these asap
You won’t regret it!
The same reason I love my Nikon D700.
Late comment but I know what you mean. I have a newer camera but it has a small sensor, so you have to think about low light and dynamic range because it can't capture everything. I've learned to enjoy the limitations and make the best of them. I may have to pick up a 5D for some of that Jpeg magic though.
and now i will have to charge up my Canon 5d classic and i hope the battery and charger still work
"If it's dark I just let it be dark". Amen. Those "dark" photos of yours are actually appropriately dark and therefore looked real and honest.
Pentax just launched a very basic film camera (Pentax 17) which has some toy camera like features .... for $550 !!!! I just bought my 2nd 5D for $200. There is no area where the Pentax film camera will produce a better image than the 5D. I can't believe these 5D cameras aren't just snapped up at this insane price. I really have to stop myself from buying all of them, because fairly soon the film hipsters will discover them, and they'll be $1,000.
The reason why people like the 5d ? The image are a real representation of the world we see thru our eyes, not what camera software thinks the world should look like, heavy on greens and saturated colours . I am an old film photographer and the 5d comes very close to the old kodak ektachrome 35mm film..or the film most movies were shot in and the photos in national geographic.
I have too many nice cameras. I still love this camera. Curious what jpg settings you prefer. I’m thinking to start shooting more jpg for daily stuff
I started off using portrait a lot, half the time I felt like the colors were actually way too vibrant but I decided to trust the camera and eventually my tastes shifted to appreciate the look. The next most common I use is neutral, mostly when I feel like portrait or standard are making skin look splotchy.