Commander Mini First Impressions
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- I unbox the Extreme Bull Commander Mini, flown in from China, and offer you my first impressions as I inspect the wheel.
Time Index:
00:00 Unboxing
03:44 Charge port problems
04:28 The top
05:28 The rear
07:21 The sides
09:19 Adjusting the shocks
10:54 The front
11:42 Headlights
12:22 Kickstand
12:51 Trolley handle
13:52 Front grab bar
14:35 Top pads
15:07 Opening the top
15:36 Water proof?
16:50 Inspecting the electronics
19:11 Side pads
20:51 Pedal height adjustment
21:17 Problematic parts exposure to rocks
22:34 Side panel extension
23:27 The tire
24:09 Testing the lights at night
25:53 Why do the lights blind me?
26:09 What's next?
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Wow Marty!!🔥🔥 This is the wheel I was waiting For. It looks like a Black & Decker tool box but I really Dig it. I'm loving the metal construction and the wheel looks to be well balanced. Thanks for sharing.
I could definitely see you riding this wheel. Batch 3.
Can't wait for your next video Marty when you bring it up the mountains. This will probably be my next wheel. Love the simple design almost minimalist without the pads.
Significant upgrade from my T4 which I adore 🥰 looking forward to this new wheel on my fleet. 🥰
Very nice looking wheel 🙌🏼
Dang Marty, another 1st impressions! Now you've given another reason to be even more jealous besides the Cali all year riding weather & amazing scenic mountain rides! Ya I'm jealous, very very jealous 😝
PS:who'd thunk one would ever say a BG wheel that oozes quality!!! Lov it 🤩
Next is the Extreme LOL - Life is good
The Patton Assassin has arrived
This is the way the Commander Pro should have been: Decent Display, Larger Grab handle, cnc around the entirety, traditional trolley handle, mainboard gaskets, black wheel (instead of polished metal). Im hoping they give the next Commander Pro the same treatments.
Thanks for pointing out the loose screw. I didn't run through them before putting on the velcro. After ~40 miles started hear a knock when jerking it back and forth. It was the loose side screw(s). Also have an issue where one of the pedals is much looser than the other. Overall really fun wheel .
The yellow light is probably for fog (its on the bottom = slower, closer) the blue is better for distance (on top = faster, further away). Get out there in the fog at night with yr shades on and test it 😎
Marty on a 16"... Way to keep an open mind.
Can't wait to try it out!
You won't give up will you LOL
hahaha that’s what i said. i dont think he even tested the T4🤔
Hahahaha
@@eucfng Was never offered a T4 and I didn't feel like buying one 😄
@@ElectricUnicycles
not enough range for your riding style. i don’t even know how you guys do the long range rides.
4:11 that's pretty much all I need to know, thanks. I can imagine what else is going on underneath. Next video/wheel!
With all the high end luggage handles out there, one wonders when EUCs will come with a better trolley handle. Preferably a non-proprietary design for the parts that need replacement often.
A lot of small design fails, but I'm interested in seeing a smaller wheel with 2400 Wh battery. Lets see how it will perform.
I don't think a 2400wh suspension wheel could been any smaller 🤔
@@ElectricUnicycles I think that’s what he’s saying. It seems to have issues but he’s curious to see how it performs as a small 2400 Wh battery wheel
ordered mine yesterday
Congrat's ✊
The red anodized alloy really looks nice. BTW what is the max pressure of the ChauYang H969 it comes with?
Hi Marty, looks great already. Aside for that minor charge port adjusting issue everything looks clean like you said and it looks high-quality relatively speaking. I remember one time you mentioned you wouldn't go for anything under 18 in, but I think this is going to be the exception.
This 16-inch wheel feels different - the tire is approaching 17+ inches and it has a very large 2400wh battery for its size.
@@ElectricUnicycles I remember you used to love your Nikola
16in C38 on 134v, that's insane torque. It's usually used on 18in wheels. The smaller the diametr the greater the leverage and I don't think anyone complained that the 19in C38 weren't torquey enough. They topped out at 60km/h, but with this 17in 134v system I suspect this'll do 70-75km/h.
Hey Marty, FINALLY! This is the one that I've been waiting for! I am concerned about the strength of the foot rests. What are they screwed into. At 225lbs it's a thing. Grazzi my friend!
Nick
I haven't taken it but the pedal mounts seem very robust
Wonder if the light is upside down? Yellow so not to be a bright to drivers and white to illuminate the ground?
Wow, Marty is demoing a 16" wheel!? Say it ain't so! Lol
Thanks Marty, love your reviews, very thorough :) From reviews and tear downs on this wheel, I think it is what I am looking for. The only problem is that I am a lite rider, and fear the suspension will be too stiff for me. Hydraulic shocks are the best, but I don't want to have to get a pattern, just because they offer shocks to suit rider weight. Do you think it is possible to install after market shocks?
I'm not aware of any after market shocks for the Mini
Nice to see your positive review!! All seems solid except for the QC issues you pointed out. Didn't see any of those rubber O-rings around the charge ports? Wonder if they missed putting those on?
Yeah, seems like there could be better sealing around the charge ports but at least the cover is very good.
Thanks Marty, looking forward to a test on the hill from hell.
BTW: When using the front pads….you mischanged left and right. If done left/right correctly, THEN the part without velcro makes sense, as its just standing over as light protection, and the bottom part would be a proper “jump grabbing” part of the front pads.
Thanks. Yes, others have made the same comment. I still prefer the Grizzla's 🙂
Could you please tell me about how tall and wide the Mini is?
Keen to hear your thoughts on this one Marty, I'm very tempted by the CP mini as a spare wheel....
And maybe the light is mounted upside down? Gicen the glaring holes at the top and yellow line at the bottom of the beam?
You could be right. Without a manual there's no way to know for sure
I am getting my first EUC in September...either the Commander Mini or the Begode Extreme......do you think buying the white heavy duty plastic velcro would function better? I have hung heavy things in my garage using this white plastic velcro.
I use the black Velcro brand Industrial Velcro, which is superb. See the link in the Description. If you prefer white, by all means...
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great smart designed wheel...marty can you give me the dimensions sheet/link ?PS ok got it on the forum...thanks for the video...and many more to come with this baby...
Why is the metal bars red in the thumbnail, but alu in the video?
Because I had a set of the red hardware that I installed after the video
awesome first impressions. i was just thinking did you ever test the T4?
Nope. I've ridden one for a tiny bit but the small battery size didn't appeal to me.
@@ElectricUnicycles
ok . i just want to make sure i didnt miss it . been a long time subscriber 🤙
@@eucfng Thank you 🤜
Hello Marty. Do you have a idea wear I can buy the next suspension for the mini or how we can fix it , I make 2100 km with the originals.
We trey to fix it but till this moment it's not working.grtz yogi Belgium
Next is now
Unfortunately no. I always get my parts from local EUC dealers (where I bought the wheel)
Will you do a tear down video of the mini?
No plans for that
How is the speaker when playing music?
Haven't tried it yet
You might as well get the Patton and Extreme...............🤑
they cost way more than this. i think this has more bang for your buck on 16” category
No Patton for Marty. Did you notice the EUC Underground watermark in the upper right-hand corner of the screen?
I think it looks awesome the "issues" don't really seem to be actual issues in my opinion. Begode is has taken over completely now let's see what these other companies can produce time for them to step there game up. This wheel seems to be soild af
Looks like you reversed the front pads so you had the bottom part on top and switched left and right..
Can it be ship out to singapore?
Should I get the Commander mini or the Begode Extreme? I will probably be riding 50% street 50% light off road.
From all that I'm hearing, the Mini would be the better wheel based on your needs. The Extreme is a bit more hardcore and feels/handles like a heavier wheel.
So just to clarify: this wheel is in the 16 size class and the A2 is in the 14 size class? Yes I do know the tire measurements already.
Basically, yes.
doea it feel more toque than the T4?...
I never tested a T4 but given that the T4 is only 100-volts and has a smaller motor, I don't think it's much of a comparison
Looks like Begode quality strikes again.
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Weight?
Commander mini or V 14 adventure? Of course that would be when you get a V 14 that works! 😂 i'm still keeping my deposit on the V 14. 👍
What did you end up doing?
What's the pedal height? Did I miss this in the video? 🥴
I'm sure you can use Google to get the answer to that real quick 👍
@@ElectricUnicycles haha, googling that question is what brought me to your video! Not sure why I can't find that info anywhere.
@@pistaker8045 unfortunately it's a question that most people don't seem to care about too much nowadays since most of the suspension wheels have adequate pedal height.
If I told you it was 7in what would you do with that information?
I don't have the wheel at the moment so I can't make the measurement for you but I can say that the pedal clearance felt great to me
The non-Velcro’d section of the pad goes on the top and sticks out past the body
I still prefer the Grizzla's
@@ElectricUnicycles Marty! Which Grizzlas did you slap on this wheel? Full size?
I don't know why these Chinese unicycle companies have so much trouble supplying decent lights. The science is centuries old and readily available to anyone. OK I will have a guess about the blue/yellow Headlight. Blue+yellow = green. Human eye's maximum sensitivity is at 555nm wavelength of light (green) in daylight (photopic vision ie. cones) and about 507nm (blue/green) at night (scotopic vision /rods). So maybe that is why you found the light OK but it looked worse on the video. The alloy down the front of the battery cases looked superfluous. At first I thought it was just for the aesthetic but I did come across a pix on the web where the bottom bit was bent (probably the unit they continually dropped after repeatedly trying a near vertical climb). So maybe it is there for structual reinforcement of the cases/chassis.
Regardless, it does look really nice. I think it may be time for a new wheel.....
Yeah, the vertical metal pieces on the front and back are held on with small screws, not bolts. I don't think they would take much abuse before breaking. But they look cool :-)
I am leaning toward the Patton between the commander Mini. I know the lynx is the best, yet Patton will be limit for my first wheel 😅
Hard to go wrong with the Patton. The Mini would be worthwhile especially if you can buy it at a lower price (certainly possible if you shop around) and the Mini is a faster wheel.
@@ElectricUnicycles I heard that about the speed, I guess speed won't be my priority as my first wheel, I find a 500-600 usd difference between the Patton (50s) and the mini (50e), 300 or so when both are 50s. Thought to my self, don't want to have re;liability issues in my first wheel, want something capable, not a monstrosity in size, hopefully Patton Will be it. Thanks for the videos Martin, we all benefit from them, greeting from Stanford !
Kinda pissed I paid for air freight with another supplier and it's shipped FedEx ground on the 15th nd no update to tracking yet...
Wow. You should get some money back because that's a huge money difference. Good luck.
@@ElectricUnicycles exactly what I'm thinking.
Can't wait to see your review on it, maybe I'll get to watch that before mine shows up 🤷😡
Til this very day still Begode isn't checking their wheels before sending them out to whomever. Smh Unbelievable
You put the front stock pads on upside down
Haha I thought so too
I still prefer the Grizzla's
A blinking red and blue light.....even if it is that dim.....some Police would love to use that for charges or tickets if they get up close and see that.
Surely you're not talking about the extremely faint blue coming from the top of the wheel, that nobody can see from 5-feet away? 🙂
10:00 u are changing the spring preload.
Would you sell the stock CP mini pads ? 🙏🏼
It's a demo wheel. The pads aren't mine to sell :-)
@@ElectricUnicycles let me know if that changes 😉.
Did you paint the rails red ?
@@WheelyFrenchy The Red parts come with the wheel if bought from EUC Ungerground
mini vs master for mostly street riding and commuting? Both are about the same price, both go faster than I dare to. Street tire. Dawn said master.
I happen to be riding my Master a fair amount last week, and was riding the Commander Mini just today. Both get the same range (see my range test videos). However, they are very different wheels. The Master is more stable at higher speeds and more comfortable, all due to the bigger tire. But the Commander Mini feels like a much smaller EUC and is super nimble compared to the Master.
What other wheels do you ride? What kind of street and commuting riding are you doing?
@@ElectricUnicycles I went from a V8 to Nik+ a year and a half ago. I'm mostly on city streets in the 25-35 mph zone, lots of hills. I'm older and the Nik seems a little sketchy in the 25 to 30 mph range with no suspension. It's fun as heck to ride tho'. Thanks for replying.
@@RoyCarter I think the Master is the better wheel for you. Once you get into the 35-mph zone it will feel much more stable than the smaller Commander Mini. Coming from the Nikola, the Master will feel very big with tall pedals. Give it time and be patient and the Master will eventually feel natural. The sense of power relative to what you've been riding will be mindboggling 🙂 Have fun!
Nice little wheel! Too bad it’s a Begode. They NEED to be the first EUC maker to adopt the UL standard. They tend to only focus on performance and forget about the small things on their EUCs.
I love Begode wheels :-)
Only C38? The Begode Extreme is C40.
The C38 is still a powerful wheel and the Mini has a totally different feeling suspension.
The lower suspension screws could be protected with either a piece of wood or 3D printed plastic, but there seem to be a number of QC issues that should be addressed BEFORE the unit leaves the factory floor heading for the packaging room. Shame about the negation of the screen by the upshine from the wheel. Bit of a mixed bag, but the essence of Begode EB was ever thus. If prospective buyers can accommodate the various shortcomings, and make their own amendments to the wheel, then on paper it’ll come out 8v ahead of the largely trouble free, superior build quality Patton, which to be fair also is not without its QC issues.
Nice brief, but not short overview. But EUC is 5 kg. heavier comparing to my heavy IM 12HT (30kg). This euc not for big city :( And one interesting fact: front light has exactly as Ukrainian flag colors. ... When You said "good visibility during riding" in dark .... on video I saw nothing... only side road lights :) Does You really saw something in way of EUC light?
It's hard to capture the true brightness of lights at night. I did feel like the lights were bright enough to ride safely at night. But when I'm planning to ride at night on ANY wheel I always use accessory lights for additional visibility.
Good overlook review, but itd still the ugliest wheel out.. 😂
I will have a guess about the blue/yellow Headlight.
Ukraine flag.
That's the new Ukraine headlight.
Is their or do we think their will ever be an AMERICAN made wheel? Are all wheels made by Asian countries? I guess the community needs to grow first...imagine a German or an Italian wheel! Give me a VOLVO or Elon Musks Tesla based wheel and I am SOLD! Imagine a Musks TESLA based wheel!
There all China. The litigious society that we live in would make it difficult for an American company and they would be substantially more expensive.
Quality -?!
What are you talking about?
This wheel, like most other gotway wheels, is completely trash and garbage.
It failed right after you took it from the box, with those charging ports...
How can someone trust their lives to a device that has obviously quality control issues?!
I personally would never ride gotway wheel as it is not only dangerous, but also not good for self-respect, as you buy product from a brand that doesn't give a damn about your user experience, as they didn't even check it before putting it in the box.
If this wheel has those problems with built quality from the start - who knows what else it may have during the ride...
The wheel certainly did not fail directly out of the box. Just an alignment problem.
Saying that the wheel is completely trash is such an over the top exaggerated statement that I can't even respond to it 🙂
I think the light was fitted upside-down! 😅😢
This will sell like pancakes compared to the weaker performance and more expensive Patton. And I like the design of this Commander Mini more than the Patton.
yeah if they manage to get it to peoples hans for 2500 even the t4 is at danger.
Really? Because I ordered the Patton. The build quality (lack of) on this won't last as long as the Patton. Some of us value quality.
@@JonGZBOSyall said that about the original commander too. yet every commander rider swears by them..