Thank you for your great review and covering many of this car features. Also, I really appreciate you literally sitting in the third row, this gives a real indication how practical it really is. I'm seriously considering this PHEV. 😊👍
1. It's NOT a CVT, it's a single speed transaxle that only engages the engine to the front wheels at specific rpms and drive conditions - the revving of the engine is simply it powering the generator to give extra current to the drive motors. 2. It's NOT 200Nm of ICE added to 250 of EV drive it's the combined output of the electric drive units driven to full capacity with both the battery and ICE generator supplying maximum current. At low speeds the ICE is never driving the wheels directly.
Single gear, cvt, so what’s the big deal. Everyone knows it’s not a torque converter 6 speed or dct 8 speed. So when people say cvt they know what the reviewer basically means.
@John Martin No, when someone says CVT most people assume they mean "cvt". Words still mean something. It's like calling something a cat and people thinking, "oh, that just means it's not a dog, so possibly it's a beaver?" Jesus...
it is a CVT. It's a geared CVT called an eCVT. uses a motor that also works as a starter to retard the speed of rotation of the output by spinning in the opposite direction, hence you have an underdrive ratio and it spins in the same direction to speed up the output for overdrive. The way it functions is dynamic and there are no fixed points such that it varies continusly with all parameters it's reading, and this makes it an eCVT. The engine is a 4B12, and in the PHEV it produces 197NM which is approximated to 200 for ease. Combined system output is 450NM. Also, in situations where you put the vehicle in charge or battery hold and in fact any other situation where the engine is running even at low speeds, it is powering the wheels together with the motor depending on which mode because the afore mentioned charge and battery hold modes only have the wheels being powered by the ICE. I know this because I drive one and also I'm an automotive engineering student and this was one of the case studies we used on PHEVs
@@WayneOnyangoOkumu Well, that was a lot of "words", many of which don't actually make sense. I drive one as well, and can categorically say the ICE does NOT drive the wheels directly under 70kph (you can see this on the display AND sometimes feel the clutch engage or disengage the transaxle under certain loads). You seem to be trying to describe the Toyota RAV4 Prime system. The combined 450Nm is reached my the ICE powering the motor-generator to produce current in conjunction with full battery output, and the engine rpm bears NO relation to road speed, hence is uncoupled from the axle. Sorry.
Shot for the excellent review. You can't please everyone but you have my thumbs up.. If you think you have the harshest roads in the world... Come to South Africa. The only thing worse than our roads is our government. It's nice to know that we have cars like this to tackle both.
Are you sure this is a 2023 model? It seems to be missing the sequential indicators, the MI-PILOT buttons on the steering wheel and the steering wheel heater button on the climate control panel.
Jacob, great review. Love this car but have to say I am a bit of a Mitsubishi nut. I have 3 CJ lancers currently and a collection of close to 2000 scale models. I can honestly say over the years of owning my 28 Mitsubishi's in total I have never had a fault with 1. I have been knocked by friends and family about my Mitsubishi but strangely enough many end up owning Mitsubishi cars also. Keep up the great work.
G'day Stephan & Jacob It's not unusual but great to see a fellow Mitsubishi owner, I've driven many other brands but all my cars have been Mitsubishi's since I bought my first car in 1987, I love and respect the brand and I've stuck with Mitsubishi through the good times and tough times, I currently drive a 2017 pearl white GSR Lancer that I've slightly customised, all the best to you mate and wishing you continued safe and happy motoring.
Hay Jacob, it was nice meeting you today in Balaclava. I was test driving exactly the same model few day ago and was also impressed with the ride. I don’t know if I should buy it instead of Lexus NX350h F sport…. What would be your choice?
Hey Mark, nice to meet you too! This does have great ride quality and an awesome hybrid powertrain but if it’s amenities and luxury you are after this doesn’t compare to the NX350h (the sound system in the Lexus is worlds apart) 👍 - Jacob
Yes, I think you are right, will still be looking for other while waiting for NX, Have you driven 2023 Mazda cx5 turbo? It goes very well and top spec has this luxury feels but no hybrid….
Review is not accurate or misleading. The gear is not CVT and the 2023 exceed tourer model comes with mi pilot which provides ability of lane keeping by auto steering, traffic jam assist start stop, and few others..
It's NOT a CVT, although for economy it will keep the engine in the high revs where it is most powerful similar to a CVT. It's called a single speed transxacle and essentially it is like a direct gear.
is it worth it to upgrade from Exceed tourer petrol to Exceed tourer PHEV? I wish they would have done something about 3 row seating in PHEV, may be a small adjustment so 3rd row seating could be useful.
It doesn't have a CVT. It is a single speed direct drive. Electric motors driving the wheels are through a 1-speed reduction. The engine engages the front wheels via hydraulic clutch.
G'day it's Steven here Enjoyed your review and I'd love to buy an Outlander PHEV, however its just too big for me and the child only third row seats wouldn't be of any use to me, my children are adults and when the grandkids come along I'd orefer to have them in the middle row. 0-100klm is 7.77 seconds is brilliant and the handling is pretty good considering this is an SUV, I cant wait to see the Ralliart version of Outlander which is at least 12 months away, itll be a road warrior beast thing that'll be influenced by the legendary Lancer Evo, and I hesitate to say itll probably retail over $85k. Go Mitsubishi!
How strange. We have this vehicle in white and it does indeed have sequential indicators. How weird this one doesn't? This one also doesn't have mipilot self steering, it must be the pre update vehicle.
Don't talk shit. It does not have a CVT. It has one electric motor on each axle, and a SINGLE ratio gear connection to the front axle, at highway speeds. I thought you knew what you were talking about until you started talking about the drive train.
Own the late 2023 model, can easily beat a Hyundai, Kia any given day. In city I have to worry about speed cameras cause this thing goes to 75KMPH in pin-drop silence
The whole third row thing in cars is a joke that needs to stop. If I still had kids to stack into a car I’d be choosing a different type of vehicle because jamming anybody into a third row is ridiculous and dangerous. Vehicles like Jeep Grand Chorokee are now offering their top line vehicles without the stupid third row so if Jeep can do it, others need to take note. We don’t all have a football team of midgets to transport and I really don’t know anybody that does.
yes in not the only one who can t stand 3rd rows , I get car sick in the 3rd row just thinking about it and freeway clover leafs ,no OS handles, is there airbags ?? , no door to open , window to roll down ,no way to escape you are trapped , and you are inches or mm to the back bumper in a rear end crash and death
@RUclipsCARSPOTTERSGUIDE If you got lots of people and a limited budget what can you do 😅. You're better off buying a 3 row vehicle rather than 2 separate cars .
What is the bloody point of having the 7 seaters for this outlander when the 3rd role seat doesnt fit anyone unless they dont have leg! And is wasting spaces! I wanted 5 seaters outlander Exceed! Unfortunately they only have 5 seaters base model and Aspire. And Exceed and up only 7 seaters! I want the 3rd role seats out and refund! I dont want it!
I think you are incompetent. You should not be allowed to review a vehicle if you don't understand how the drive train works. You said it has a CVT when it does not.
@@michaelflinn7784 I’ve got the 2022 RAV4 Adventure Hybrid. I’ve heard that Toyota will be doing a generation 6 late 2024 and this will be a big step up, so I might upgrade if this happens. Cheers NZ.
There is no CVT. There is no transmission at all. The electric motors drive the wheels in most cases, except at highway cruises speed, where the motor is directly connected to the axel.
At 17:20... you said "the petrol engine is used to charge the electric motor". Firstly, you charge batteries, you can't "charge" a motor. Secondly, it has TWO electric motors. Also, why can you only talk about the regen braking, when it's in EV mode?
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Thank you for your great review and covering many of this car features. Also, I really appreciate you literally sitting in the third row, this gives a real indication how practical it really is. I'm seriously considering this PHEV. 😊👍
1. It's NOT a CVT, it's a single speed transaxle that only engages the engine to the front wheels at specific rpms and drive conditions - the revving of the engine is simply it powering the generator to give extra current to the drive motors.
2. It's NOT 200Nm of ICE added to 250 of EV drive it's the combined output of the electric drive units driven to full capacity with both the battery and ICE generator supplying maximum current. At low speeds the ICE is never driving the wheels directly.
Single gear, cvt, so what’s the big deal. Everyone knows it’s not a torque converter 6 speed or dct 8 speed. So when people say cvt they know what the reviewer basically means.
@John Martin No, when someone says CVT most people assume they mean "cvt". Words still mean something. It's like calling something a cat and people thinking, "oh, that just means it's not a dog, so possibly it's a beaver?" Jesus...
@@johnmartin7158CVTs have a well earned reputation for poor reliability. Hence why saying it has one, when it does not, is a bit of an issue.
it is a CVT. It's a geared CVT called an eCVT. uses a motor that also works as a starter to retard the speed of rotation of the output by spinning in the opposite direction, hence you have an underdrive ratio and it spins in the same direction to speed up the output for overdrive. The way it functions is dynamic and there are no fixed points such that it varies continusly with all parameters it's reading, and this makes it an eCVT. The engine is a 4B12, and in the PHEV it produces 197NM which is approximated to 200 for ease. Combined system output is 450NM. Also, in situations where you put the vehicle in charge or battery hold and in fact any other situation where the engine is running even at low speeds, it is powering the wheels together with the motor depending on which mode because the afore mentioned charge and battery hold modes only have the wheels being powered by the ICE. I know this because I drive one and also I'm an automotive engineering student and this was one of the case studies we used on PHEVs
@@WayneOnyangoOkumu Well, that was a lot of "words", many of which don't actually make sense. I drive one as well, and can categorically say the ICE does NOT drive the wheels directly under 70kph (you can see this on the display AND sometimes feel the clutch engage or disengage the transaxle under certain loads). You seem to be trying to describe the Toyota RAV4 Prime system. The combined 450Nm is reached my the ICE powering the motor-generator to produce current in conjunction with full battery output, and the engine rpm bears NO relation to road speed, hence is uncoupled from the axle. Sorry.
Mines on order. Can't wait. Trading up from the Eclipse cross Phev which has been terrific.
I thinking about getting one
Shot for the excellent review. You can't please everyone but you have my thumbs up.. If you think you have the harshest roads in the world... Come to South Africa. The only thing worse than our roads is our government. It's nice to know that we have cars like this to tackle both.
Are you sure this is a 2023 model? It seems to be missing the sequential indicators, the MI-PILOT buttons on the steering wheel and the steering wheel heater button on the climate control panel.
7:32 is gold
Matt here - When I saw Jacob had not only said that, but edited that in himself, I practically passed away from laughter 🤣
@@CarSauce 😂 Jacob is a good sport, and talented editor.
@@CarSauce I just wish there was more room in the back for Jacob's quality knob
Great review. I’m considering saving a heap and skipping the two extra seats. They seem useless?
I've got a Lexus NX450 h+ on order but I think I might put a deposit down on one of these as well. Whichever arrives first gets bought.
Jacob, great review. Love this car but have to say I am a bit of a Mitsubishi nut. I have 3 CJ lancers currently and a collection of close to 2000 scale models. I can honestly say over the years of owning my 28 Mitsubishi's in total I have never had a fault with 1. I have been knocked by friends and family about my Mitsubishi but strangely enough many end up owning Mitsubishi cars also. Keep up the great work.
G'day Stephan & Jacob
It's not unusual but great to see a fellow Mitsubishi owner, I've driven many other brands but all my cars have been Mitsubishi's since I bought my first car in 1987, I love and respect the brand and I've stuck with Mitsubishi through the good times and tough times, I currently drive a 2017 pearl white GSR Lancer that I've slightly customised, all the best to you mate and wishing you continued safe and happy motoring.
Hay Jacob, it was nice meeting you today in Balaclava. I was test driving exactly the same model few day ago and was also impressed with the ride. I don’t know if I should buy it instead of Lexus NX350h F sport…. What would be your choice?
Hey Mark, nice to meet you too! This does have great ride quality and an awesome hybrid powertrain but if it’s amenities and luxury you are after this doesn’t compare to the NX350h (the sound system in the Lexus is worlds apart) 👍 - Jacob
Yes, I think you are right, will still be looking for other while waiting for NX,
Have you driven 2023 Mazda cx5 turbo? It goes very well and top spec has this luxury feels but no hybrid….
I haven’t personally, but have you taken a look at the new CX-60? It is available as a plug-in hybrid
Review is not accurate or misleading. The gear is not CVT and the 2023 exceed tourer model comes with mi pilot which provides ability of lane keeping by auto steering, traffic jam assist start stop, and few others..
None of their reviews are really accurate they're both unreliable
@@Maddo_75so carsauce is not a good place for reviews?
It's NOT a CVT, although for economy it will keep the engine in the high revs where it is most powerful similar to a CVT. It's called a single speed transxacle and essentially it is like a direct gear.
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Thanks for your very good review.
is it worth it to upgrade from Exceed tourer petrol to Exceed tourer PHEV? I wish they would have done something about 3 row seating in PHEV, may be a small adjustment so 3rd row seating could be useful.
Correction for this video, it doesn't have a CVT, it's a single speed transaxle, which means no bands, just spinning gears, no changing, etc, etc.
It doesn't have a CVT. It is a single speed direct drive. Electric motors driving the wheels are through a 1-speed reduction. The engine engages the front wheels via hydraulic clutch.
Come on Mitsubishi, Forget the “massaging” seats and give us ventilated seats. This is Australia, not Japan.
G'day it's Steven here
Enjoyed your review and I'd love to buy an Outlander PHEV, however its just too big for me and the child only third row seats wouldn't be of any use to me, my children are adults and when the grandkids come along I'd orefer to have them in the middle row.
0-100klm is 7.77 seconds is brilliant and the handling is pretty good considering this is an SUV, I cant wait to see the Ralliart version of Outlander which is at least 12 months away, itll be a road warrior beast thing that'll be influenced by the legendary Lancer Evo, and I hesitate to say itll probably retail over $85k.
Go Mitsubishi!
How strange. We have this vehicle in white and it does indeed have sequential indicators. How weird this one doesn't? This one also doesn't have mipilot self steering, it must be the pre update vehicle.
Yep I think it's the pre updated version.
Does the new one still have the battery degradation problem as older models?
This new one has a new battery and a new cooling/heating system.
3rd row is sick!
Good one Daddy Jacob!
Don't talk shit. It does not have a CVT. It has one electric motor on each axle, and a SINGLE ratio gear connection to the front axle, at highway speeds. I thought you knew what you were talking about until you started talking about the drive train.
Own the late 2023 model, can easily beat a Hyundai, Kia any given day. In city I have to worry about speed cameras cause this thing goes to 75KMPH in pin-drop silence
Very accurate review🙂
No is not. Dude said it has a CVT, that's a total lie.
Read the full written review (with some extra insights!): www.carsauce.com
The fact that it doesn't have a CVT, are you going to make that correction?
Why won't you make the correction that it doesn't have a CVT?
does anyone mention that this vehicle does not have a spare tyre? in this day and age that is ludicrous
The whole third row thing in cars is a joke that needs to stop. If I still had kids to stack into a car I’d be choosing a different type of vehicle because jamming anybody into a third row is ridiculous and dangerous.
Vehicles like Jeep Grand Chorokee are now offering their top line vehicles without the stupid third row so if Jeep can do it, others need to take note. We don’t all have a football team of midgets to transport and I really don’t know anybody that does.
We are thinking of buying/leasing one of these cars. If we do then we don’t want the third row of seats.
It's only a matter of time sedans and hatchbacks have the third row seats if this trend goes on.
yes in not the only one who can t stand 3rd rows , I get car sick in the 3rd row just thinking about it and freeway clover leafs ,no OS handles, is there airbags ?? , no door to open , window to roll down ,no way to escape you are trapped , and you are inches or mm to the back bumper in a rear end crash and death
@RUclipsCARSPOTTERSGUIDE
If you got lots of people and a limited budget what can you do 😅.
You're better off buying a 3 row vehicle rather than 2 separate cars .
@@wosamosman9814 like a larger wagon for cargo and car camping no kids so no need for a 3rd row
What is the bloody point of having the 7 seaters for this outlander when the 3rd role seat doesnt fit anyone unless they dont have leg! And is wasting spaces! I wanted 5 seaters outlander Exceed! Unfortunately they only have 5 seaters base model and Aspire. And Exceed and up only 7 seaters! I want the 3rd role seats out and refund! I dont want it!
Laggy infosystem..... thats already a bad thing
I think you are incompetent. You should not be allowed to review a vehicle if you don't understand how the drive train works. You said it has a CVT when it does not.
Video is very jarring, too much cutting. I know it helps reduce overall length. But it makes it look like you keep teleporting.
Buy anything $ mom's boy. His dad. Still. Spanks. Him. 😮
It's a pity that the front end is so damn ugly
it's subjective. I bought it coz of the front end.
Polarising isn’t it. It’s stupid looking, but yet some people love it.
@@johnmartin7158 it is. I couldn't stand looking at it every day as I walk into the garage
@@michaelflinn7784 I’ve got the 2022 RAV4 Adventure Hybrid. I’ve heard that Toyota will be doing a generation 6 late 2024 and this will be a big step up, so I might upgrade if this happens.
Cheers NZ.
@@johnmartin7158 I'm looking at the new Scorpio N. I'm very impressed
Where are they going to park this junk at the dealers ?
Cvt 👎
Not a CVT, it's a Single Speed TransAxle GKN Multi Mode E-Transmission.
There is no CVT. There is no transmission at all. The electric motors drive the wheels in most cases, except at highway cruises speed, where the motor is directly connected to the axel.
@@PascalSchoenhardt A bit like the Nissan e-power.
At 17:20... you said "the petrol engine is used to charge the electric motor". Firstly, you charge batteries, you can't "charge" a motor. Secondly, it has TWO electric motors. Also, why can you only talk about the regen braking, when it's in EV mode?
Please stop saying it has a CVT when it does not. You should get a job doing something you understand. Please stop reviewing vehicles.
Idk man, pretty much every website says the phev version has a cvt. What do you reckon it is?