I'm an introvert as well, and I will say this: there is a difference between being an introvert and being a hermit, and I think Moondancer may have started as the former, but is the latter in the episode proper.
As am I, however, I’m not socially-anxious. While I *prefer* time alone, I can function fully in social settings when I have to be, such as college, work, and the occasional convention.
+ShadowWriter45 and eventhough i like Starlight her reason for becoming a villain are DUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMB and petty i like how magically attune she is
+ShadowWriter45 I think the difference is actually how the ponies reacted to their situations: Moondancer felt that Twilight abandoned her because no pony cared about her, Starlight felt as if her friend was _ripped_ from her because he was "better" than her.
+Robert Lawrence Starlight Glimmer never gave up on "friendship" per-se, but I do see commonalities. Moondancer's event caused her to turn inwards and become reclusive and somewhat bitter. Starlight's event caused her to become obsessed with not allowing such a thing to happen again, creating a philosophy where cutie marks keep ponies separated. She still sought out friends, hell she gathered a small town's worth of ponies to be her friends, but she became obsessed with controlling their lives so that she would not lose a friend again. Honestly I find Starlight's start of darkness to be pretty good and I feel that it is weird when people think her reasoning is petty. She has pretty much the same issues and motivations as Moondancer, had a traumatic event where she lost her only/best friend and became motivated to never let that happen again. The two just took opposite paths to this, Moondancer became a recluse and Starlight created a philosophy to manipulate and control ponies into staying as her "friends".
Same here. I understand why Twilight way names “princess of friendship” she’s the main character, and ment to show that anyone can make friends. But I personally think that honor should have gone to pinky pie. Even in g3, pinky pie was an amazing friend, always trying to see the bright side of anything, always trying to lift up her friend. Unlike twilight, who is friends with people because she thinks she’s supposed to (Celestia told her to and now she’s the princess of friendship.) pinky is friends with people because it makes her feel good to make them happy. She’s friends with people because she likes being friends.
+my little kittycorn I hate it when that happens. even if it was just a familiar face from that one class you did that whole semester throughout high school. You can't remember their names. Dx
Tell me about it! I don’t want to come off as rude to people but they always recognized me and say my name but I can never remember them. With so many semesters under my belt a lot of people know me but I almost always forget them, I hate that. At least they’re understanding about it.
I always come back to this video cause of the thing you said from 7:30 about how "we live in a culture where if someone isnt living up to the extroverted ideal, we assume that there's something wrong with them, but that's our own bias, to my fellow introverts I say, there is nothing wrong with being quiet and preferring a little privacy. The important thing is that you feel comfortable with that choice rather than feeling any sort of resignation" It always hits home for me and has really opened up my eyes. I always felt pressure about not being as out there, or outwardly-inclined like my friends are, it just didnt feel like it was who I am. You spoke out my confliction in a very simple and clear way which has resonated with me since watching this :) so thankyou!
As someone who is an Introvert and has had one of their oldest friends just up and stop being friends one day, I completely sympathize with Moon Dancer. However, I have a problem with how Twilight and the rest handled Moon Dancer. Being an Introvert is not a problem to over come and is not as simple to change as they did it in the show. Being friends with an Introvert, especially when everyone else in the group are Extroverts, require special considerations. Instead of throwing this huge Pinkie Party out in public, especially in the location of one of her worst memories, they should have had a smaller party at Moon Dancer's home where she would have been more comfortable and at ease. As for all the times Moon Dancer told Twilight to leave her alone, Twilight should have and tried again a few days later. This would have shown Moon Dancer that Twilight respects her desires and yet still wants to be friends again. And after all of this, Moon Dancer might still have not forgiven Twilight.
I forgave my friend, but only after moving literally a thousand miles away and after five years of not speaking to her. However, that was my call to make just like it should have been Moon Dancer's, not Twilight. I know the show writers only have 22 minutes to work with and thus these complex issues get a little more rushed then they should. However, this was a potentially good episode to show that no matter how much you say you are sorry, how you try to make amends, and how you wish that you could change something that you did, sometimes that is not enough and you have to live with your mistakes.
The logic does make some sense, but considering that Moondancer's socialization was described as not existing, there was never an intention to do so and leaving someone to respect their wishes wouldn't have an effect as that sort of effect would be counteracted by the amount of pain that would bring back, especially as it seems to be a moment of being vulnerable. While the way she planned to resolve the issue didn't stick through the end, Twilight shifted the focus less on being friends again and more on letting friends back in her life, and while it's my personal interpretation that it meant just believing in friendship, even if it didn't involve her, she did also have other individuals who knew her show up at the party to show her who she still has
YES! The emotional side of the storytelling was spot-on, and Moondancer was very relatable. I just wish they hadn't made it seem as though Twilight was solely responsible for how Moondancer's life turned out. I also wish they hadn't implied that Moondancer rejected the ponies who did show up to her party and only focused on the one who didn't.
"Moondancer rejected the ponies who did show up to her party and only focused on the one who didn't" That actually happened to me once. If you cannot imagine it, it doesn't mean it cannot happen.
"We live in a society where if someone isn't living up to the extroverted ideal, we think something is wrong with them." I've had people, including my own manager at my workplace say either directly to me, or indirectly about me (because my hearing is probably better than most), that because I'm quiet, and generally keep to myself, and not going out and partying at every chance given, that I'm not living my life the 'right way'. There is so much wrong with that mindset. I believe the term is 'false consensus effect', a psychological fallacy wherein because a person lives or believes one way, they automatically assume that is the right way to live and believe, and that anything else is wrong. While I can function perfectly fine in daily life, and handle my own things, I generally just prefer time alone, it doesn't mean I can't handle social interaction.
Silver Quill: The Hippogriff with a Heart. Keep up the thoughtful, intelligent, and heartwarming reviews. This one really brightened up my day. Thanks!
I'll be honest here, I'm horrible with names. I have a lot of trouble remembering the names of people. It's not that I don't care about them, I just have a brain that doesn't do well with names.
+MadDemon64 I can totally relate to to that. I can't remember names either. I'm not even bad at remembering people. If I see a face I can remember characters, hobbies, and most of the other stuff I know about them. Howver, the names tend to escape me.
Okay, I'm legitimately shocked at how much this spoke to me??? It /is/ very easy to huddle inside yourself instead of wanting to go out to tackle life again. I was seriously hurt recently and I've been focusing on what it means maybe more than I should be, focusing more on what failed than who is still around to encourage me. I'm glad I saw this video tonight.
*thunderous applause for the "not Twilight's fault" section* I remember your comment from another video (Dr. Wolf's?) but thank you for being able to explain this point in your video. Along with everything else, it's spot on.
The pacing of these episodes made me appreciate the 2 part nature of the episodes in the Justice League cartoon. It allows for themes to be explored and allow character interactions to take place over time. And some of the episodes in MLP could really benefit from that.
I feel you simplified Moon Dancer's emotions a bit. If Twilight's imagination was accurate, Moon Dancer was strongly disappointed and emotionally hurt becasue Twilight didn't come to her party (not necessarily bitter yet), but the fact that she chose to value her attendance more than the others is relatable, since she felt similar to Twilight's introverted aspects, and because Twilight was a student of Celestia (introverts like Moon Dancer tend to chose friends based on their potential make a difference in their lives). The trouble doesn't stop there, because right after that, Twilight moved to Ponyville and made friends with others whom she had just met. It's not certain if Moon Dancer knew about that, but if she did, she would probably feel a much deeper sense of rejection. One thing that's pretty certain Moon Dancer would have known is the fact that Twilight became the Princess of Friendship, and that would have been the genuine calamity of Moon Dancer's heart, because abandoning her at her birthday party and shortly after going to a new place, making new friends and becoming significant through the elements of harmony with them were all part of Twilight's greatest achievement. Moon Dancer must have felt completely worthless and insignificant in life, and I feel that not choosing to maintain the friendships that she had was a relatable thing among all that.
I agree with you here. It’s possible that, like me, Moon Dancer may have a deep-seated fear of rejection/abandonment. And so when the one person (or pony, in this case) you admire the most chooses NOT to show up for you after you reached out to them, it feels like the biggest heartbreak in the world. You feel as though you’re not as valuable to them as they are to you. So it’s only natural to want to cut off all ties, and to just shun the world, ESPECIALLY after putting yourself out there as an INTROVERT. Moon Dancer even said that herself in the episode. So yeah, while others aren’t responsible for our happiness, let’s not oversimplify and gloss over the feelings of those who find it hard to pull themselves out of that hole, as “getting back out there” and “trying again” is easier said than done, esp for an introvert since they tend to place great importance on those already in their lives.
I have more than often felt like Moondancer; however, I also feel from a sort of Twilight perspective. I try so often to reach out to my friends and become better friends, but more often than not their all busy, either with work, education, other friends, or just their own lives. And while I completely understand their situations, I can't help but feel like I'm the last person that comes to their minds when they think of their friends, even though I know that's not true, after all I am the best friend of my best friend. But when I DO get to spend time with them there's usually a third, fourth, or fifth party involved who overshadows my introverted presence, and I feel excluded and I can never get back into the conversation (it is after all very rude to interrupt). And it's just so easy to slip into being depressed and believe that I don't have any real friends, and I rarely ever have the chance to talk to anyone. And more than often I reach out to specific people rather than all my friends. I understand both perspectives, however I feel like more of mix between Twilight and Moondancer, but with more of MD than Twi. I would like the writers to tackle an issue like this: the introvert who reaches out but can never get anywhere. Unless there already is an episode like that and I've just forgotten.
I personally love this episode, easily one of my top ten favorite episodes. I can relate to Moondancer on so many levels. When I was a kid I had invited everyone in my class to my birthday party, and practically everyone threw there invitation cards away in the trash! You know how I found out about them throwing their invitations in the trash? Someone stopped me in the hallway and told me, I went back to the classroom to see if it was true, and it turned out to be true. One girl called me and told me that she had forgotten about the invite, and another girl actually came to the party. But everyone else threw the invitations away. It made me so sad, so I can understand Moondancer absolutely. I really wanted to give her a hug. So I grew up becoming a home body instead if like my younger sister who loves going outside and hanging with people. I'm not saying that I don't like hanging out with people, it's just that I'm shy when I'm hanging out with someone that I don't know. I can talk to people on the computer because I'm not really seeing them. If that makes sense. So yeah I can totally see where Moondancer is coming from, but I don't blame Twilight because she had no idea what that party meant to Moondancer. Just my thoughts, have a good day. :)
Aaah Silver Quill, after all the things you've done you MUST be classed as a villain by now, perhaps on some watch-list? i mean that explosion at the end? bloody hell! you just blew up a princess!! still though, i love these videos, i never miss them and i look forward to the next! :D
+uupdown2 Considering all the things he's done, AND being sent to the dungeon more than once, I think he reached villain LONG ago! Remember the Cadence and Shining Armor thing? Yeah...
This episode was close to me like many others, but I really do see it from your point of view. When I was little, I had a lot of chances to walk away from friendship. I was betrayed by people more then just once or twice; I was excluded by my peers regularly; I believed that everyone hates me, but I also believed in fresh starts and second chances. When I went to high school, I started over and tried to just be friendly and positive. By the end of high school, I had more than 35 different people I could call friends. Friendship is about being brave and trying again. It's about second chances and new beginnings, but most importantly, it's about forgiving others and working through conflicts. Thank you Silver Quill for posting this video. It has a great message and I really enjoyed it.
I don't know if you'll ever see this Silver Quill, but thank you. Thank you so much for all of your hard work that you put into making your videos. Every one of your videos is a treat and a new video always makes my day and this one is no different. In fact I'd say this one is the best one thus far because I love this episode and you did an amazing job with showing both the strong points and weak points of this episode and it also helps that it was pretty funny. My favorite bit though was when you were talking about how it's okay to be an introvert. I have always been the outsider because I always kept to myself, because I was and still am an introvert. It got to the point where I wondered if there was something wrong with me. Thankfully I realized a long time ago that there's nothing wrong with me being an introvert and you reminded me of that and made me feel good about myself once again during a time in my life that is currently filled with stress and I can't thank you enough.
As an introvert with both anxiety and depression I completely understand why Moondancer shut herself in. Sure three other ponies came to her party, but not the one she looked up to the most. The option to say 'okay Twilight didn't come, oh well she's Celestias student she's probably busy' was there but it wasn't a choice. Moondancer probably has a really bad self worth, so she quickly assumes the worst. Plus her breaking down and crying in the end was way too relatable
I've been waiting for a long time to comment on this video... until about a week ago, I didn't have a RUclips account and couldn't leave comments at all. (I'm not sure why I waited this long, but that's beside the point.) I just wanted to say, thank you. I'm sure you've read a hundred comments like this, but I wanted to say it anyway -- even if it doesn't really make a difference to you, it makes a difference to me to have said it. I am an introvert, as you have likely guessed, and though I am both confident and comfortable in that role, it's hard sometimes to live in a world where popular culture -- including the one TV show I watch -- puts out a constant message of extroversion. The goals in life are prosperity, power, and popularity, according to the ads I see in malls and on billboards, on RUclips, and in almost every store I step inside. I've never been one to put much stock in pop culture, but it's overwhelming, and sometimes can become depressing. This is why I seek out and find the people like you, Dr. Wolf, and others outside of media. It's so reassuring and uplifting when I see something like this. So again, thank you. The points you've made here are not only valid, they're thought-inducing. It's always a good thing when I have to pause the video, set it aside for a moment, and process something you said. I know you don't need my affirmation of your abilities (in the end, I'm just another fan in the screaming, cheering crowd), but it's good for me when I'm able to reach out in some small way to someone for whom I have great respect. Thanks, Silver Quill.
Thank you SO MUCH for saying what I've been thinking since I saw that episode! Yes, it's sad that Moondancer's efforts at friendship were rejected, but it's not up to everybody to put aside everything to make one person happy. We're all responsible for finding the positives of even the darkest situations, and honestly, it's not like no one came to the party she threw. I find it a little insulting to the rest of the ponies that tried to be her friends all these years that they just weren't good enough for her.
This is so far my favorite review from you, not only is your comedy in full force here but also, an uncanny acknowledgement of what introverts go though. I would definitely call myself introverted based on my past rejection of my feelings or my appearance, you've given the right words to say that "I want to try a new but I'm afraid to". Looking back on this episode, I'm not surprised that this was the start of the feels trips that this season brought us.
Thank you for your review of this episode. It was an episode that I connected with easily and you helped put my feelings into words. I especially love how you emphasize truth, like the need to help others and how we can play a role in their happiness, but that we're not responsible for their choices. You are an AMAZING reviewer, thank you for what you add to this fandom and overall audience. =)
Silver Quill's "CONTINUITY" is magic XD I am so sure of that. Also, I can relate very much in the case of feeling rejected and abandoned. Even when I wasn't truly rejected or abandoned, I would feel that a lot, especially when I was a kid. Had good knowledge of having good parents, but didn't know who were my friends and who weren't, and I had this mindset back then that since I couldn't tell who were my friends and who weren't that I was just alone and nothing more, even when it wasn't true.
I kind of got the sense from the flashbacks that Twilight and Moondancer were enough alike that Twilight was the closest thing Moondancer had to a best friend. This is why Twilight's absence hit her so hard. Also, there is a baby Twilight in the background of the Fall of Sunset Shimmer Comic, which means that the filly Twilight in this episode alongside the fillies that are the same age as Sunset Shimmer in that Comic Kills the comic in terms of Continuity. Fall of Sunset Shimmer: NOT CANON.
As an introverted person who lives in America and has a more extroverted family, I appreciate your commentary about introverts having anything wrong with them. It's encouraging for me to hear
Great job with your After The Fact on Amending Fences, Silver Quill! I'll be sure to comment on it once it is up on Equestria Daily! Also, love how your timing with finally getting out your continuity thing had enough explosive force to nail even Starlight before she could pound you one for leaving her with the bill back at the restaurant. Can't wait for your next After The Fact with "Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?" involving our Lunar Sovereign, Princess Luna!!!
And the creator of kids next door has ideas for a new series (the galactic kids next door), and even though there are no production plans he reunited the ACTUAL voice actors for a clip here on RUclips. just search for the series tease trailer
THIS!!!! This review right here is why I keep coming back! Silver Quill is both hilarious and so intellectually stimulating, that I would actually prefer to hear him talk and break down an episode than watch it! Don't get me wrong I love MLP and will continue enjoying it, but he just has such an innate understanding of what each episode is about and what the writers are trying to convey to their audiences. I LOVE YOU SILVER QUILL!!! DON'T EVER CHANGE!!!!
While I consider myself an introvert sometimes(not all the time), I would not have taken the same path as Moondancer. I may not hang out with my friends that much, but I still know the there are people that care about me. Moondancer simply lost sight of that if nothing else
Wow. I’ve been catching up on silverquill episodes for a while now and I must say that this one here really hits home with me. This reminded me of why I subscribed in the first place, relate-ability, straightforwardness and putting everything in a new light. Silverquill helps me see the things I missed in the episodes and helps me better understand the episode as a whole. BRAVO SILVERQUILL! Bravo! 👏👏❤️❤️
7:55-8:04 Thank you, Silver Quill. It's not often that I hear someone genuinely understand what an introvert,such as myself, really is. I'm happy you get it
Exactly how I felt about this episode - When Moon Dancer blew up at the end I teared up a bit, because I have been there so hardcore lol. Loved seeing everything I thought about this episode laid out so perfectly in this vid!
As somebody who has had many friends leave me alone in a harsh world for those who have kind hearts that many can take advantage of, I find myself right there beside Moondancer and anyone else who struggles with me.
SilverQuill, you are seriously my fav to watch, so much humour, and you bring up things I never notice. Really love what you do. Can't wait for season 6 and to see what hilarity you bring.
You really went above and beyond on this one. Your reconsideration of the intention of the episode and what we should really be striving for on both sides of the failed-friend coin...it could just be the thing to help me connect better with my shier friends. That's not just good entertainment, that's a public service. Thanks from the bottom of my heart.
i kinda feel a bit of Moondancer's pain. back in california when i was little. i didn't had much of friends. i was rejected by some kids. i say hi to a couple of girls my age and they said bye and walked away from me. they all find me so different than everybody else. hell, because of that, my friends were stuffed animals because they were there for me. then when me and my parents moved to virginia, at my new school, i was bullied for the first time in my life. one day i was beaten up and worst about it: no one helped me. i was rejected from those kids and i don't want that to happen again. but at least i had one good friend at that place.
I need that end credit music. This episode and the way you explained it spoke to some real issues i've been facing at the moment. In a strange way, the way you fleshed out the idea that one can blame another for your own shortcomings really hit home with me. And when that music at the end hit. It helped my mind to settle.. helped me realise that. Maybe there is a better way to handle things. SO a big thank you to you +MLP-Silver-Quill. And to whomever made that amazing piece of art for the ears.
When my best friend moved away and went to collage we didn't see each other for over 6 years. We talked but when we met up again she had become an SJW and when I tried to show her MLP she criticized it heavily because "Bronies are too aggressive." A few fights later and the person I had looked up to and shared horrible secrets I could never reveal to anyone else, turned on me and said she didn't remember a single thing we had talked about in the past (just to win an argument). I felt like the girl I used to know was just dead. And I felt so crushed that our friendship just ended, over literally nothing. Especially since I have only 3 friends and I trusted her the most. But the one who was by my side through all the drama and crying was my sister, Carly. I didn't even fully realize it until I looked back through my text history and saw just how much time and support she had given me. Thank you for being my best friend, sis. :)
That "Celestia's school of gifted unicorns" was one of the most prestigious schools in equestria was known to the fandom from the start. The name very much implies that so that she was an every girl went out the window when Cadance and Shining were revealed. Most see her as coming from high middle class.
Best video yet, because DAAAAAMNNNNNNN. That was a heavy speech! And the emotional transitions from being funny, to critical, to sad, to touching, and to absolutely hysterical were all so perfect! You've really outdone yourself on this one, and I can't wait for the next video! ^^
I think twilight caused moondancer that pain mostly because she looked up to twilight. Look at their mane styles; I don't think it's just for symbolism. I think it was because twilight was moondancer's hero.
Excellent Job Silver Quill! I really enjoy how you also add educational supplements to your reviews. I always love watching your antics and learning something new or thinking in a whole new perspective. Thanks for all the food for thought, my mind is totally full now.
Really enjoyed this one from you. You covered a lot good points brought up in the episode as well as many of your own. Especially enjoyed the point about how we deal with rejection and how our own lives are under our own control. Even though there may be extenuating circumstances, choosing how we deal with them is what defines the outcome of our lives. Thanks very much! Always love seeing a new episode from you in my subscription list!! Keep up the amazing work!
I have two things to say: First, regarding your comments about personal responsibility, I've actually noticed that to be a recurring problem with Season 5. Redemption has been a running theme throughout the series, whether the redeemed characters be series regulars like Luna and Diamond Tiara, returning characters like Gilda and Starlight Glimmer, and new characters like, well, pretty much every new character this season, discounting Slice of Life. And with a small handful of exceptions (Rara from The Mane Attraction comes to mind), the responsibility to reform those characters has always been on Twilight or the Mane Six. Even in some of the better episodes like this one, it's a pretty significant issue. Second, on a more personal note, I'd like to say what my takeaway was from Moondancer's little arc. When I first finished watching this episode, I was quick to liken her social inadequacy to my autism (type-2, high-functioning; PDD-NOS under the old system). But upon examination, that comparison really didn't hold up, largely because Moondancer's state of being is a result of her choices, rather than any inherent disorder. What I instead realized I was relating to was her feeling of isolation, her feeling that even those who cared most for her didn't care enough, the feeling, however misguided, that she'll never be able to form meaningful bonds or relationships with anyone. I can also relate to her insistence that she doesn't need friends - a justification for her choices that even a basic understanding of social psychology reveals to be just that: a flimsy justification. And I can relate to the moment that she realizes that people do care about her, and that she has friends and family all willing to help her and be by her side. Whatever this episode's faults, it's almost impossible not to get the feels for this one.
what you said about the whole moondancer thing really got me thinking... I wasn't really the most sociable in middle school. I wasn't bullied or anything, but like her I kinda prioritized on myself, gaining superior intellect, military beliefs, and some other political philosophies. I guess I could try being more friendly and go out more often this is why i like your channel so much!!! It gets me thinking!!! ^___^
13:58 While I loved the episode, there's a part of me that's still curious, as to what would happen if Twilight responded to Moondancer's question, differently. [14:07] "And _you_ think this is gonna do it, *_huh?_*" What if Twilight realized that, while her heart was in the right place, she went about this the wrong way, to a degree? When Moondancer asks that question, Twilight is about to respond with a yes, but takes a step back to consider her answer. Finally she responds with an answer along the lines of... "No, I don't. I realize now that the party alone, or kind gestures aren't going to make things right - not overnight. I don't expect you to see me as your best friend like we were once upon a time. But I want to make amends, the *_right way;_* even if it takes some time. Are you willing, to give me that second chance?" I realize Twilight comes to a similar conclusion after Moondancer's breakdown, and I'm not trying to discredit the scene and what it did accomplish, especially the line, "But please, don't let *_my mistake_* be the reason you can't be friends with anyone/anypony else". It's just that when I _first_ saw the episode, this was basically my response when Moondancer asked that question during that pivotal scene. It's great that Twi wanted to make amends by trying to relate to Moondancer's plight, but at first, she went in with the mindset that a simple gesture or action would be all it takes to make things right; when time, and *_continued effort,_* are the best things to mend this type of hurt.
It knows the nickpicks BECAUSE ALL CRITICS MUST COME UP AGAINST... THE UNSNARKABLE! *Thunder* "The Unsnarkable?" *Thunder* "The Unsnarkable!" *Thunder* "The Unsnark--Ugh!" (Closes Curtains.) REFRENCES!
before i saw the end, i thought that you were much more serious in this video than any other that i have seen, not saying i don't enjoy you messing around in your videos, i was just shocked about how serious you were. Especially because this was an episode with a ton of twilight in it. (AND ALL THE CONTINUITY MAN! MY GOD! CONTINUITY OVERLOAD!)
I remember having to go through that in college. I'll admit I'm an Introvert, I can talk to people but I do like my space. I didn't talk a lot or join a lot when I was in college. Every time I was asked where I was, I would tell them I was in my room, they asked if I was studying, I would say no I was just hanging out, and I would get the weirdest looks. Like it was bad that I was spending time alone in my room. It's not like I didn't go out. I had clubs and friends but usually they happened in the morning or afternoons. At night, I didn't like to party so I stayed in my room since that's all that really happened at night. So thank you for putting that piece in Silver Quill. It made me feel better.
To be honest, the big deal with the introversion bit isn't saying that introversion is a bad thing, it's that EXCESSIVE introversion is a bad thing, much like excessive Extroversion has been a bad thing in the past with Pinkie Pie. There's certainly nothing wrong with being an introvert, but as the others had told Twilight before the stakeout Moon Dancer hadn't really been keeping up healthy relationships at all, which can be self destructive as we see with her house.
I feel for moondancer. When i played minecraft for the first time. I was hurt more times then i can count but i just repressed the pain and helped others. And i still do that irl. You know your close to me when you see me intentionally reveal whats bugging me. Only 3 people in my whole life know some of my serects. Only 2 i go to willingly to vent. And this was across 20 years. When i played and made a friend i was happy but when theres nobody on the server i think of as a friend. I wouldn't go there. And the first server i went to i cant bring myself to go back to. If you could see my emotional heart it would have mile high and thick walls and inside would be a heart with many scars and me instead of blaming others for my emotional scars i blame myself for the ones that arent my fault. when im left or betrayed i tend to say quietly "im sorry"
Good grief Silver Quill! There's so many new poses and so much animation and stuff in this one! No wonder it took so long! (*cheers with the most enthusiasm*)
2:21 LOOK HOW HER WIDDLE FOOT IS RAISED, THESE CHARACTERS ARE SO ADORABLE also i almost lost it when M. A. Larson showed up on screen. overall a really great / intelligent episode here, Silver Quill! glad to see another "After the Fact" video.
Next episode should be the Luna episode, and according to Joshscorcher, I heard you hated that episode or disliked it... That review outha be intresting...
If Silver Quill didn't like "Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep" I swear, I don't know what make shim hate it in the first place! I mean come on, it's a Princess Luna story, and it has the return of Zapp and Mare-velous that makes the show awesome! I want him to double check!
Veston Bruno I think it's for the same reasons why Joshscorcher didn't really like that episode. Hopefully it's not as harsh like Jerry Peet's reasons.
i loved this episode and from the sounds of it you did too, so massive props for being able to put that aside and genuinely critique it, awesome stuff :D
I'm an introvert as well, and I will say this: there is a difference between being an introvert and being a hermit, and I think Moondancer may have started as the former, but is the latter in the episode proper.
Is that the Godzilla anime trilogy’s arch nemesis !?
As am I, however, I’m not socially-anxious. While I *prefer* time alone, I can function fully in social settings when I have to be, such as college, work, and the occasional convention.
I think you mixed up latter and former.
Well, coming back to this video years later I didn't expect to see you here.
@@jojoreztorc0396 Dude, a lot of people don't like the anime Godzilla trilogy. It has some good stuff in it, but overall, it's just lame.
Moondancer: Lost a friend. Gave up on friendship
Starlight Glimmer: Lost a friend. Gave up on friendship
+Robert Lawrence The only difference is Moondancer didn't go to the same extremes as Starlight Glimmer
+ShadowWriter45 and eventhough i like Starlight her reason for becoming a villain are DUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMB and petty i like how magically attune she is
+ShadowWriter45 I think the difference is actually how the ponies reacted to their situations: Moondancer felt that Twilight abandoned her because no pony cared about her, Starlight felt as if her friend was _ripped_ from her because he was "better" than her.
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO TYPe!!!!
+Robert Lawrence Starlight Glimmer never gave up on "friendship" per-se, but I do see commonalities. Moondancer's event caused her to turn inwards and become reclusive and somewhat bitter. Starlight's event caused her to become obsessed with not allowing such a thing to happen again, creating a philosophy where cutie marks keep ponies separated. She still sought out friends, hell she gathered a small town's worth of ponies to be her friends, but she became obsessed with controlling their lives so that she would not lose a friend again.
Honestly I find Starlight's start of darkness to be pretty good and I feel that it is weird when people think her reasoning is petty. She has pretty much the same issues and motivations as Moondancer, had a traumatic event where she lost her only/best friend and became motivated to never let that happen again. The two just took opposite paths to this, Moondancer became a recluse and Starlight created a philosophy to manipulate and control ponies into staying as her "friends".
"Help my rump is kidnapping me!"
- Silver Quill 2015
11/10
Rock Tuner 20/20 best quote
And just like that the moments ruined
Hahahahaha
No. 10/10.
Agreed, Pinkie should get a title. She's been pretty helpful this season.
Same here. I understand why Twilight way names “princess of friendship” she’s the main character, and ment to show that anyone can make friends. But I personally think that honor should have gone to pinky pie. Even in g3, pinky pie was an amazing friend, always trying to see the bright side of anything, always trying to lift up her friend. Unlike twilight, who is friends with people because she thinks she’s supposed to (Celestia told her to and now she’s the princess of friendship.) pinky is friends with people because it makes her feel good to make them happy. She’s friends with people because she likes being friends.
@@songbird3971 What do you mean?
Hey in twilights defense I CANNOT FOR THE LIFE OF ME REMEMBER NAMES
+my little kittycorn Same here, man. :(
+my little kittycorn I hate it when that happens. even if it was just a familiar face from that one class you did that whole semester throughout high school. You can't remember their names. Dx
Ditto.
+my little kittycorn I have EXACTLY the same problem.
Tell me about it! I don’t want to come off as rude to people but they always recognized me and say my name but I can never remember them. With so many semesters under my belt a lot of people know me but I almost always forget them, I hate that. At least they’re understanding about it.
"Help My rump is kidnapping me!" Silver Quill 2015. At least I'm 99% sure thats what I heard.
It is
I always come back to this video cause of the thing you said from 7:30 about how "we live in a culture where if someone isnt living up to the extroverted ideal, we assume that there's something wrong with them, but that's our own bias, to my fellow introverts I say, there is nothing wrong with being quiet and preferring a little privacy. The important thing is that you feel comfortable with that choice rather than feeling any sort of resignation" It always hits home for me and has really opened up my eyes. I always felt pressure about not being as out there, or outwardly-inclined like my friends are, it just didnt feel like it was who I am. You spoke out my confliction in a very simple and clear way which has resonated with me since watching this :) so thankyou!
Coming back to this absurdly late, but with the post-pandemic pressure right now, yeah, that line was extremely validating for me to hear.
As someone who is an Introvert and has had one of their oldest friends just up and stop being friends one day, I completely sympathize with Moon Dancer. However, I have a problem with how Twilight and the rest handled Moon Dancer. Being an Introvert is not a problem to over come and is not as simple to change as they did it in the show. Being friends with an Introvert, especially when everyone else in the group are Extroverts, require special considerations. Instead of throwing this huge Pinkie Party out in public, especially in the location of one of her worst memories, they should have had a smaller party at Moon Dancer's home where she would have been more comfortable and at ease. As for all the times Moon Dancer told Twilight to leave her alone, Twilight should have and tried again a few days later. This would have shown Moon Dancer that Twilight respects her desires and yet still wants to be friends again. And after all of this, Moon Dancer might still have not forgiven Twilight.
I forgave my friend, but only after moving literally a thousand miles away and after five years of not speaking to her. However, that was my call to make just like it should have been Moon Dancer's, not Twilight. I know the show writers only have 22 minutes to work with and thus these complex issues get a little more rushed then they should. However, this was a potentially good episode to show that no matter how much you say you are sorry, how you try to make amends, and how you wish that you could change something that you did, sometimes that is not enough and you have to live with your mistakes.
Finally, someone said it. So many people just don't seem to understand.
well... being exposed actually can help sometimes. Open the wound and let it on the air so it can be treated.
at the end it was like a giant fart
The logic does make some sense, but considering that Moondancer's socialization was described as not existing, there was never an intention to do so and leaving someone to respect their wishes wouldn't have an effect as that sort of effect would be counteracted by the amount of pain that would bring back, especially as it seems to be a moment of being vulnerable.
While the way she planned to resolve the issue didn't stick through the end, Twilight shifted the focus less on being friends again and more on letting friends back in her life, and while it's my personal interpretation that it meant just believing in friendship, even if it didn't involve her, she did also have other individuals who knew her show up at the party to show her who she still has
YES! The emotional side of the storytelling was spot-on, and Moondancer was very relatable. I just wish they hadn't made it seem as though Twilight was solely responsible for how Moondancer's life turned out. I also wish they hadn't implied that Moondancer rejected the ponies who did show up to her party and only focused on the one who didn't.
"Moondancer rejected the ponies who did show up to her party and only focused on the one who didn't"
That actually happened to me once. If you cannot imagine it, it doesn't mean it cannot happen.
"We live in a society where if someone isn't living up to the extroverted ideal, we think something is wrong with them."
I've had people, including my own manager at my workplace say either directly to me, or indirectly about me (because my hearing is probably better than most), that because I'm quiet, and generally keep to myself, and not going out and partying at every chance given, that I'm not living my life the 'right way'. There is so much wrong with that mindset. I believe the term is 'false consensus effect', a psychological fallacy wherein because a person lives or believes one way, they automatically assume that is the right way to live and believe, and that anything else is wrong. While I can function perfectly fine in daily life, and handle my own things, I generally just prefer time alone, it doesn't mean I can't handle social interaction.
Silver Quill: The Hippogriff with a Heart. Keep up the thoughtful, intelligent, and heartwarming reviews. This one really brightened up my day. Thanks!
+demonman905 After ordering Twilight a Quesadilla, I don't know about the size of that heart...
Hey, I never said it wasn't a cold heart.
+demonman905 To be fair, he DID look pretty guilty afterwards...
I'll be honest here, I'm horrible with names. I have a lot of trouble remembering the names of people. It's not that I don't care about them, I just have a brain that doesn't do well with names.
+MadDemon64 I can totally relate to to that. I can't remember names either.
I'm not even bad at remembering people. If I see a face I can remember characters, hobbies, and most of the other stuff I know about them. Howver, the names tend to escape me.
Iamawesome I can't even remember street names.
+Iamawesome Same with me, i can notice a face but putting a name to it is hard. well more the voice and it would jog my memmory
+MadDemon64 I sometimes forget names too; especially if I haven't know a person that long
i have had names said to my face and forget in under a minute. I am not joking.
Note to self, do NOT keep continuity inside till the very end. The apocalypse will come....
Okay, I'm legitimately shocked at how much this spoke to me??? It /is/ very easy to huddle inside yourself instead of wanting to go out to tackle life again. I was seriously hurt recently and I've been focusing on what it means maybe more than I should be, focusing more on what failed than who is still around to encourage me. I'm glad I saw this video tonight.
You delivered a very positive, very real message with this vid, Silver. I applaud you!
*thunderous applause for the "not Twilight's fault" section*
I remember your comment from another video (Dr. Wolf's?) but thank you for being able to explain this point in your video. Along with everything else, it's spot on.
The pacing of these episodes made me appreciate the 2 part nature of the episodes in the Justice League cartoon. It allows for themes to be explored and allow character interactions to take place over time. And some of the episodes in MLP could really benefit from that.
I feel you simplified Moon Dancer's emotions a bit. If Twilight's imagination was accurate, Moon Dancer was strongly disappointed and emotionally hurt becasue Twilight didn't come to her party (not necessarily bitter yet), but the fact that she chose to value her attendance more than the others is relatable, since she felt similar to Twilight's introverted aspects, and because Twilight was a student of Celestia (introverts like Moon Dancer tend to chose friends based on their potential make a difference in their lives). The trouble doesn't stop there, because right after that, Twilight moved to Ponyville and made friends with others whom she had just met. It's not certain if Moon Dancer knew about that, but if she did, she would probably feel a much deeper sense of rejection. One thing that's pretty certain Moon Dancer would have known is the fact that Twilight became the Princess of Friendship, and that would have been the genuine calamity of Moon Dancer's heart, because abandoning her at her birthday party and shortly after going to a new place, making new friends and becoming significant through the elements of harmony with them were all part of Twilight's greatest achievement. Moon Dancer must have felt completely worthless and insignificant in life, and I feel that not choosing to maintain the friendships that she had was a relatable thing among all that.
I agree with you here. It’s possible that, like me, Moon Dancer may have a deep-seated fear of rejection/abandonment. And so when the one person (or pony, in this case) you admire the most chooses NOT to show up for you after you reached out to them, it feels like the biggest heartbreak in the world. You feel as though you’re not as valuable to them as they are to you. So it’s only natural to want to cut off all ties, and to just shun the world, ESPECIALLY after putting yourself out there as an INTROVERT. Moon Dancer even said that herself in the episode.
So yeah, while others aren’t responsible for our happiness, let’s not oversimplify and gloss over the feelings of those who find it hard to pull themselves out of that hole, as “getting back out there” and “trying again” is easier said than done, esp for an introvert since they tend to place great importance on those already in their lives.
"And you can come back when you start speaking English!"
My parents when I talk about Anime.
Over a year later, I finally realize... that Moondancer's glasses are built for Humans and not Ponies
Good point so how did she get them ????
…OMG OoO
16:35
Josh would be proud of that explosion.
+Milesprower the Brony Better than any of Joshthescorcher's explosions any time of eternity!
And Eliyora.
I have more than often felt like Moondancer; however, I also feel from a sort of Twilight perspective. I try so often to reach out to my friends and become better friends, but more often than not their all busy, either with work, education, other friends, or just their own lives. And while I completely understand their situations, I can't help but feel like I'm the last person that comes to their minds when they think of their friends, even though I know that's not true, after all I am the best friend of my best friend. But when I DO get to spend time with them there's usually a third, fourth, or fifth party involved who overshadows my introverted presence, and I feel excluded and I can never get back into the conversation (it is after all very rude to interrupt). And it's just so easy to slip into being depressed and believe that I don't have any real friends, and I rarely ever have the chance to talk to anyone. And more than often I reach out to specific people rather than all my friends. I understand both perspectives, however I feel like more of mix between Twilight and Moondancer, but with more of MD than Twi. I would like the writers to tackle an issue like this: the introvert who reaches out but can never get anywhere. Unless there already is an episode like that and I've just forgotten.
+Djinsin I feel similar.
I personally love this episode, easily one of my top ten favorite episodes. I can relate to Moondancer on so many levels. When I was a kid I had invited everyone in my class to my birthday party, and practically everyone threw there invitation cards away in the trash! You know how I found out about them throwing their invitations in the trash? Someone stopped me in the hallway and told me, I went back to the classroom to see if it was true, and it turned out to be true. One girl called me and told me that she had forgotten about the invite, and another girl actually came to the party. But everyone else threw the invitations away. It made me so sad, so I can understand Moondancer absolutely. I really wanted to give her a hug. So I grew up becoming a home body instead if like my younger sister who loves going outside and hanging with people. I'm not saying that I don't like hanging out with people, it's just that I'm shy when I'm hanging out with someone that I don't know. I can talk to people on the computer because I'm not really seeing them. If that makes sense. So yeah I can totally see where Moondancer is coming from, but I don't blame Twilight because she had no idea what that party meant to Moondancer. Just my thoughts, have a good day. :)
"Help! My rump is kidnapping me!"
Aaah Silver Quill, after all the things you've done you MUST be classed as a villain by now, perhaps on some watch-list? i mean that explosion at the end? bloody hell! you just blew up a princess!!
still though, i love these videos, i never miss them and i look forward to the next! :D
+uupdown2 Considering all the things he's done, AND being sent to the dungeon more than once, I think he reached villain LONG ago! Remember the Cadence and Shining Armor thing? Yeah...
@@Optimusprime240 more like hes the dream villain tbh XD
This episode was close to me like many others, but I really do see it from your point of view. When I was little, I had a lot of chances to walk away from friendship. I was betrayed by people more then just once or twice; I was excluded by my peers regularly; I believed that everyone hates me, but I also believed in fresh starts and second chances. When I went to high school, I started over and tried to just be friendly and positive. By the end of high school, I had more than 35 different people I could call friends. Friendship is about being brave and trying again. It's about second chances and new beginnings, but most importantly, it's about forgiving others and working through conflicts. Thank you Silver Quill for posting this video. It has a great message and I really enjoyed it.
"Help! My rump is kidnapping me!" What is my life, that a sentence like that can have context?
I don't know if you'll ever see this Silver Quill, but thank you. Thank you so much for all of your hard work that you put into making your videos. Every one of your videos is a treat and a new video always makes my day and this one is no different. In fact I'd say this one is the best one thus far because I love this episode and you did an amazing job with showing both the strong points and weak points of this episode and it also helps that it was pretty funny. My favorite bit though was when you were talking about how it's okay to be an introvert. I have always been the outsider because I always kept to myself, because I was and still am an introvert. It got to the point where I wondered if there was something wrong with me. Thankfully I realized a long time ago that there's nothing wrong with me being an introvert and you reminded me of that and made me feel good about myself once again during a time in my life that is currently filled with stress and I can't thank you enough.
As an introvert with both anxiety and depression I completely understand why Moondancer shut herself in. Sure three other ponies came to her party, but not the one she looked up to the most. The option to say 'okay Twilight didn't come, oh well she's Celestias student she's probably busy' was there but it wasn't a choice. Moondancer probably has a really bad self worth, so she quickly assumes the worst. Plus her breaking down and crying in the end was way too relatable
I've been waiting for a long time to comment on this video... until about a week ago, I didn't have a RUclips account and couldn't leave comments at all. (I'm not sure why I waited this long, but that's beside the point.)
I just wanted to say, thank you. I'm sure you've read a hundred comments like this, but I wanted to say it anyway -- even if it doesn't really make a difference to you, it makes a difference to me to have said it.
I am an introvert, as you have likely guessed, and though I am both confident and comfortable in that role, it's hard sometimes to live in a world where popular culture -- including the one TV show I watch -- puts out a constant message of extroversion. The goals in life are prosperity, power, and popularity, according to the ads I see in malls and on billboards, on RUclips, and in almost every store I step inside. I've never been one to put much stock in pop culture, but it's overwhelming, and sometimes can become depressing. This is why I seek out and find the people like you, Dr. Wolf, and others outside of media. It's so reassuring and uplifting when I see something like this.
So again, thank you. The points you've made here are not only valid, they're thought-inducing. It's always a good thing when I have to pause the video, set it aside for a moment, and process something you said. I know you don't need my affirmation of your abilities (in the end, I'm just another fan in the screaming, cheering crowd), but it's good for me when I'm able to reach out in some small way to someone for whom I have great respect.
Thanks, Silver Quill.
Thank you SO MUCH for saying what I've been thinking since I saw that episode! Yes, it's sad that Moondancer's efforts at friendship were rejected, but it's not up to everybody to put aside everything to make one person happy. We're all responsible for finding the positives of even the darkest situations, and honestly, it's not like no one came to the party she threw. I find it a little insulting to the rest of the ponies that tried to be her friends all these years that they just weren't good enough for her.
This is so far my favorite review from you, not only is your comedy in full force here but also, an uncanny acknowledgement of what introverts go though. I would definitely call myself introverted based on my past rejection of my feelings or my appearance, you've given the right words to say that "I want to try a new but I'm afraid to". Looking back on this episode, I'm not surprised that this was the start of the feels trips that this season brought us.
Silver Quill x Starlight Glimmer
May the ships begin
Silver Glimmer FTW!
+Skylar LaRoe no
+Skylar LaRoe Beaten to the punch -_-
...Silver deserves better than Starlight, no offense to her.
Marshall Lee Abadeer No, not better, just different.
Thank you for your review of this episode. It was an episode that I connected with easily and you helped put my feelings into words. I especially love how you emphasize truth, like the need to help others and how we can play a role in their happiness, but that we're not responsible for their choices. You are an AMAZING reviewer, thank you for what you add to this fandom and overall audience. =)
16:43. I love it when you smile like that Silver. You should do it more often.
Silver Quill's "CONTINUITY" is magic XD I am so sure of that.
Also, I can relate very much in the case of feeling rejected and abandoned. Even when I wasn't truly rejected or abandoned, I would feel that a lot, especially when I was a kid. Had good knowledge of having good parents, but didn't know who were my friends and who weren't, and I had this mindset back then that since I couldn't tell who were my friends and who weren't that I was just alone and nothing more, even when it wasn't true.
I kind of got the sense from the flashbacks that Twilight and Moondancer were enough alike that Twilight was the closest thing Moondancer had to a best friend. This is why Twilight's absence hit her so hard.
Also, there is a baby Twilight in the background of the Fall of Sunset Shimmer Comic, which means that the filly Twilight in this episode alongside the fillies that are the same age as Sunset Shimmer in that Comic Kills the comic in terms of Continuity. Fall of Sunset Shimmer: NOT CANON.
As an introverted person who lives in America and has a more extroverted family, I appreciate your commentary about introverts having anything wrong with them. It's encouraging for me to hear
I love Silver's face when he finally says "continuity"
Great job with your After The Fact on Amending Fences, Silver Quill! I'll be sure to comment on it once it is up on Equestria Daily!
Also, love how your timing with finally getting out your continuity thing had enough explosive force to nail even Starlight before she could pound you one for leaving her with the bill back at the restaurant. Can't wait for your next After The Fact with "Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?" involving our Lunar Sovereign, Princess Luna!!!
5:55 *record scratches* Wait, what? This is a thing? This is actually a thing?! (Insert angelic choir here.)
+The Anti Ninja I sure hope so. I loved Samurai Jack!
+The Anti Ninja
yes it has actually been confirmed that in 2016 SJ will come back. you may now fangasm.
You didn't know? Then you'll probably be surprised to hear that powerpuff girls is coming back too.
Bia Fernandes BWAH!? What is even happening!?
And the creator of kids next door has ideas for a new series (the galactic kids next door), and even though there are no production plans he reunited the ACTUAL voice actors for a clip here on RUclips. just search for the series tease trailer
THIS!!!! This review right here is why I keep coming back! Silver Quill is both hilarious and so intellectually stimulating, that I would actually prefer to hear him talk and break down an episode than watch it! Don't get me wrong I love MLP and will continue enjoying it, but he just has such an innate understanding of what each episode is about and what the writers are trying to convey to their audiences. I LOVE YOU SILVER QUILL!!! DON'T EVER CHANGE!!!!
While I consider myself an introvert sometimes(not all the time), I would not have taken the same path as Moondancer. I may not hang out with my friends that much, but I still know the there are people that care about me. Moondancer simply lost sight of that if nothing else
Wow. I’ve been catching up on silverquill episodes for a while now and I must say that this one here really hits home with me. This reminded me of why I subscribed in the first place, relate-ability, straightforwardness and putting everything in a new light. Silverquill helps me see the things I missed in the episodes and helps me better understand the episode as a whole.
BRAVO SILVERQUILL! Bravo! 👏👏❤️❤️
0:55. 1500 BITS! What in Luna´s name did you order, Silver Quill?
7:55-8:04 Thank you, Silver Quill. It's not often that I hear someone genuinely understand what an introvert,such as myself, really is. I'm happy you get it
“HELP! MY RUMP IS KIDNAPPING ME!” My new favorite quote
Exactly how I felt about this episode - When Moon Dancer blew up at the end I teared up a bit, because I have been there so hardcore lol. Loved seeing everything I thought about this episode laid out so perfectly in this vid!
As somebody who has had many friends leave me alone in a harsh world for those who have kind hearts that many can take advantage of, I find myself right there beside Moondancer and anyone else who struggles with me.
SilverQuill, you are seriously my fav to watch, so much humour, and you bring up things I never notice. Really love what you do. Can't wait for season 6 and to see what hilarity you bring.
At the end.
WHO WANTS SOME FRIED CHICKEN!!
I am not one of your fried chicken tramps!
More like 2 friend unicorns and 1 friend alicorn, screw the energy drink after I eat this I'm going to be as OP as Tirek!
NOT XD
You really went above and beyond on this one.
Your reconsideration of the intention of the episode and what we should really be striving for on both sides of the failed-friend coin...it could just be the thing to help me connect better with my shier friends.
That's not just good entertainment, that's a public service. Thanks from the bottom of my heart.
i kinda feel a bit of Moondancer's pain. back in california when i was little. i didn't had much of friends. i was rejected by some kids. i say hi to a couple of girls my age and they said bye and walked away from me. they all find me so different than everybody else. hell, because of that, my friends were stuffed animals because they were there for me. then when me and my parents moved to virginia, at my new school, i was bullied for the first time in my life. one day i was beaten up and worst about it: no one helped me. i was rejected from those kids and i don't want that to happen again. but at least i had one good friend at that place.
I need that end credit music. This episode and the way you explained it spoke to some real issues i've been facing at the moment. In a strange way, the way you fleshed out the idea that one can blame another for your own shortcomings really hit home with me. And when that music at the end hit. It helped my mind to settle.. helped me realise that. Maybe there is a better way to handle things. SO a big thank you to you +MLP-Silver-Quill. And to whomever made that amazing piece of art for the ears.
When my best friend moved away and went to collage we didn't see each other for over 6 years. We talked but when we met up again she had become an SJW and when I tried to show her MLP she criticized it heavily because "Bronies are too aggressive."
A few fights later and the person I had looked up to and shared horrible secrets I could never reveal to anyone else, turned on me and said she didn't remember a single thing we had talked about in the past (just to win an argument).
I felt like the girl I used to know was just dead.
And I felt so crushed that our friendship just ended, over literally nothing. Especially since I have only 3 friends and I trusted her the most.
But the one who was by my side through all the drama and crying was my sister, Carly. I didn't even fully realize it until I looked back through my text history and saw just how much time and support she had given me. Thank you for being my best friend, sis. :)
That "Celestia's school of gifted unicorns" was one of the most prestigious schools in equestria was known to the fandom from the start. The name very much implies that so that she was an every girl went out the window when Cadance and Shining were revealed. Most see her as coming from high middle class.
1:00 Makes you wonder who she would prefer to kill at that moment XD
Thank goodness that such episodes like this exist. Loved every last bit of it.
You'll never escape the doodles! muahahahaaaaaa~~
+Doodle Dabble XD
+Doodle Dabble Beware of the doodles..... *random person walks by painting, falls down and runs away in fear*
+Doodle Dabble the doodles are back!
HI!
Watch their return in the upcoming sequel, "Attack of the Doodles 2: Electric Doodloo!"
Best video yet, because DAAAAAMNNNNNNN. That was a heavy speech! And the emotional transitions from being funny, to critical, to sad, to touching, and to absolutely hysterical were all so perfect!
You've really outdone yourself on this one, and I can't wait for the next video! ^^
I think twilight caused moondancer that pain mostly because she looked up to twilight. Look at their mane styles; I don't think it's just for symbolism. I think it was because twilight was moondancer's hero.
gods this is what i came originally to this channel for, im glad you are going to keep doing these
and yet I'd wonder Why is Twilight afraid of Quesadieas again?
this episode was a total 10/10 for me
the emotions, the characters everything
just loved it
Can always count on you for hilarity and some great uplifting food for thought. Keep rocking Quill, you da man! >=)
Excellent Job Silver Quill! I really enjoy how you also add educational supplements to your reviews. I always love watching your antics and learning something new or thinking in a whole new perspective.
Thanks for all the food for thought, my mind is totally full now.
you know whats weird....SOME PONIES WEAR GLASSES LIKE HUMANS LIKE WHAT GRAVITY HELLOOOOOO
Really enjoyed this one from you. You covered a lot good points brought up in the episode as well as many of your own. Especially enjoyed the point about how we deal with rejection and how our own lives are under our own control. Even though there may be extenuating circumstances, choosing how we deal with them is what defines the outcome of our lives.
Thanks very much! Always love seeing a new episode from you in my subscription list!! Keep up the amazing work!
I have two things to say: First, regarding your comments about personal responsibility, I've actually noticed that to be a recurring problem with Season 5. Redemption has been a running theme throughout the series, whether the redeemed characters be series regulars like Luna and Diamond Tiara, returning characters like Gilda and Starlight Glimmer, and new characters like, well, pretty much every new character this season, discounting Slice of Life. And with a small handful of exceptions (Rara from The Mane Attraction comes to mind), the responsibility to reform those characters has always been on Twilight or the Mane Six. Even in some of the better episodes like this one, it's a pretty significant issue.
Second, on a more personal note, I'd like to say what my takeaway was from Moondancer's little arc. When I first finished watching this episode, I was quick to liken her social inadequacy to my autism (type-2, high-functioning; PDD-NOS under the old system). But upon examination, that comparison really didn't hold up, largely because Moondancer's state of being is a result of her choices, rather than any inherent disorder. What I instead realized I was relating to was her feeling of isolation, her feeling that even those who cared most for her didn't care enough, the feeling, however misguided, that she'll never be able to form meaningful bonds or relationships with anyone. I can also relate to her insistence that she doesn't need friends - a justification for her choices that even a basic understanding of social psychology reveals to be just that: a flimsy justification. And I can relate to the moment that she realizes that people do care about her, and that she has friends and family all willing to help her and be by her side. Whatever this episode's faults, it's almost impossible not to get the feels for this one.
"Spike makes the critical mistake of talking-"
Why do I like that line so much? xD
Well i bet *300 bits* he won't reply!
+CookieMallow AJ and Gaming ^-^ With the bit-to-dollar exchange you now owe me...
$10,000,000,000! Don't question it!
ok... (◕︵◕)
*gives money*
*Sees puppy eyes*
Phooey.
*Gives money back*
+MLP-Silver-Quill yay! (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
thanks so much! *gives cookie*
+MLP-Silver-Quill 15:30 whats the song on the background? and also 17:00 plsss i need to know!
what you said about the whole moondancer thing really got me thinking... I wasn't really the most sociable in middle school. I wasn't bullied or anything, but like her I kinda prioritized on myself, gaining superior intellect, military beliefs, and some other political philosophies. I guess I could try being more friendly and go out more often this is why i like your channel so much!!! It gets me thinking!!! ^___^
13:58 While I loved the episode, there's a part of me that's still curious, as to what would happen if Twilight responded to Moondancer's question, differently. [14:07] "And _you_ think this is gonna do it, *_huh?_*"
What if Twilight realized that, while her heart was in the right place, she went about this the wrong way, to a degree? When Moondancer asks that question, Twilight is about to respond with a yes, but takes a step back to consider her answer. Finally she responds with an answer along the lines of...
"No, I don't. I realize now that the party alone, or kind gestures aren't going to make things right - not overnight. I don't expect you to see me as your best friend like we were once upon a time. But I want to make amends, the *_right way;_* even if it takes some time. Are you willing, to give me that second chance?"
I realize Twilight comes to a similar conclusion after Moondancer's breakdown, and I'm not trying to discredit the scene and what it did accomplish, especially the line, "But please, don't let *_my mistake_* be the reason you can't be friends with anyone/anypony else". It's just that when I _first_ saw the episode, this was basically my response when Moondancer asked that question during that pivotal scene.
It's great that Twi wanted to make amends by trying to relate to Moondancer's plight, but at first, she went in with the mindset that a simple gesture or action would be all it takes to make things right; when time, and *_continued effort,_* are the best things to mend this type of hurt.
And subscribed. The part of this video near the end really stands out to me. Thank you, Silver Quill.
It knows the nickpicks BECAUSE ALL CRITICS MUST COME UP AGAINST...
THE UNSNARKABLE!
*Thunder*
"The Unsnarkable?"
*Thunder*
"The Unsnarkable!"
*Thunder*
"The Unsnark--Ugh!"
(Closes Curtains.)
REFRENCES!
before i saw the end, i thought that you were much more serious in this video than any other that i have seen, not saying i don't enjoy you messing around in your videos, i was just shocked about how serious you were. Especially because this was an episode with a ton of twilight in it. (AND ALL THE CONTINUITY MAN! MY GOD! CONTINUITY OVERLOAD!)
Oh how I loved that M.A. Larson joke.
Even in the hiatus, we can count on a slow drip-feed of analysis thanks to you, Silver. And I do mean that in the nicest way. Thank you for it.
16:51 Did you just blast a hole in the backdrop?
+BioniclesaurKing4t2 () So you noticed it too? ^_^
+BioniclesaurKing4t2 That's what that was?
Didn't even notice that I had to go back and research the end
What??????? Didn't even notice that at first. Though it was intentional.
I remember having to go through that in college. I'll admit I'm an Introvert, I can talk to people but I do like my space. I didn't talk a lot or join a lot when I was in college. Every time I was asked where I was, I would tell them I was in my room, they asked if I was studying, I would say no I was just hanging out, and I would get the weirdest looks. Like it was bad that I was spending time alone in my room. It's not like I didn't go out. I had clubs and friends but usually they happened in the morning or afternoons. At night, I didn't like to party so I stayed in my room since that's all that really happened at night. So thank you for putting that piece in Silver Quill. It made me feel better.
A new episode of JonTron with an amazing ending [/!\SPOILER ALERT/!\] with Arin and a new Silver Quill video on the SAME DAY? I must be in Heaven.
+Mike Dragon I just came from watching that episode hahaha.
I JUST SAW THAT TOO!
+Mike Dragon dont forget the brony reacts :p x
+Levi Williams I don't follow those, to be honest. :(
fair :) the ending to the starcade though did almost kill me :')
One of your funniest and best reviews yet, Silver! Awesome work!
The last time I came this early, I had two kids.
+Snake1000 The last time I came this early, you hadn't made this comment yet.
Enough
+Snake1000 This joke needs to stop
+Michael Beimler You'll get it...
I don't get it.
That face at the end was great! Silver, seeing that emotion from your character is extra fun :p
To be honest, the big deal with the introversion bit isn't saying that introversion is a bad thing, it's that EXCESSIVE introversion is a bad thing, much like excessive Extroversion has been a bad thing in the past with Pinkie Pie. There's certainly nothing wrong with being an introvert, but as the others had told Twilight before the stakeout Moon Dancer hadn't really been keeping up healthy relationships at all, which can be self destructive as we see with her house.
I feel for moondancer. When i played minecraft for the first time. I was hurt more times then i can count but i just repressed the pain and helped others. And i still do that irl. You know your close to me when you see me intentionally reveal whats bugging me. Only 3 people in my whole life know some of my serects. Only 2 i go to willingly to vent. And this was across 20 years. When i played and made a friend i was happy but when theres nobody on the server i think of as a friend. I wouldn't go there. And the first server i went to i cant bring myself to go back to. If you could see my emotional heart it would have mile high and thick walls and inside would be a heart with many scars and me instead of blaming others for my emotional scars i blame myself for the ones that arent my fault. when im left or betrayed i tend to say quietly "im sorry"
SILVER'S AN INTROVERT! My mind is blown. :-P @_@
How's that a surprise?
+Majin Boo Mosty because I've watch some of his brony con vid and it doesn't look like he's an introvert but that's little old extroverted me.
alicia parker as he stated, introverts become more social when its about something special to them.
+alicia parker That's the result of many years of practice. I've spent some time trying to develop middle gears. :)
+MLP-Silver-Quill are they going to be alright after the big explosion you have
Good grief Silver Quill!
There's so many new poses and so much animation and stuff in this one!
No wonder it took so long!
(*cheers with the most enthusiasm*)
and yes I'm aware that Samurai Jack is coming back to Cartoon Network's Adult Swim block in 2016 AWESOME!
2:21 LOOK HOW HER WIDDLE FOOT IS RAISED, THESE CHARACTERS ARE SO ADORABLE
also i almost lost it when M. A. Larson showed up on screen.
overall a really great / intelligent episode here, Silver Quill! glad to see another "After the Fact" video.
Starlight’s having chicken tonight!
Silver Quill great job! Keep up the good work and if you ever have doubts remember we are all here amazed by your work
moondancer and starlight... have... the same... reason... omg
No Body ikr!
Silver, thank you for all of your content. I have enjoyed every episode and you are in the top three of my favorite analysts.
I bet 200 pennies that Silver Quill does not respond to this comment.
+Xoncron The Dark One I want my $2!
+MLP-Silver-Quill You just made my day
well you lost that bet
+MLP-Silver-Quill haha god i love you silver quill you make me laugh
+MLP-Silver-Quill awesome Silver Quill.
Wow! That was an amazing review! I really like the depth that you analyze the show itself, while still being able to fit in comedy.
FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!,
Oh crap, I've become THAT guy, lol.
+Spirit W Also 'Under 301 Club' LOL
awesome review!
Not funny at all.
I love how your character is constantly in peril/at conflict with some of the characters. And you absolutely owned this one.
Next episode should be the Luna episode, and according to Joshscorcher, I heard you hated that episode or disliked it...
That review outha be intresting...
+Alex Ramirez That' can't be possible.
+Veston Bruno Yes it can, it's not a very good episode...
If Silver Quill didn't like "Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep" I swear, I don't know what make shim hate it in the first place! I mean come on, it's a Princess Luna story, and it has the return of Zapp and Mare-velous that makes the show awesome! I want him to double check!
+Veston Bruno We're looking at the writing, references and the central character aren't enough to make it a good episode.
Veston Bruno I think it's for the same reasons why Joshscorcher didn't really like that episode. Hopefully it's not as harsh like Jerry Peet's reasons.
i loved this episode and from the sounds of it you did too, so massive props for being able to put that aside and genuinely critique it, awesome stuff :D