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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Tech Void
0:48 What is this thing?
2:38 Why use this?
4:40 Why all NAND isn't equal
5:58 SLC vs Other NAND
7:00 Should you get one?
8:03 Outro 
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That intro. It doesn’t get better than this 😂
"You have what you need my child"
He is the tech god
STOP LAUGHING
Best intro ever
Like guys being dudes
Let's be honest, every weird hardware can either be explained as a) "it's a scam lol" or b) "Someone needed it for their server in some specific usecase, so someone started making it and sells it now"
Or C: This could help me squeeze more GPUs on my mining rig.
@@wingracer1614 C: This could help squeeze more GPUs on my really expansive, useless, environment damaging slot machine* fixed it
@@michealpersicko9531 Crypto mining is not bad, people just got to it the wrong way.
The issue is that mining was never supposed to be done at this scale.
The best solution would be to
a) sell some of the mining processing power to scientific research calculations
b) split the blockchain every year by making its initial state equal to final state of last year's blockchain
This way mining would be much faster and much more profitable and much more useful.
@@hubertnnn or proof of stake/other systems
@@hubertnnn Basically all crypto is garbage. Burning russian fuel and graphics cards to create worthless gambling tokens which allow you to commit tax fraud and occasionally support a drug smuggler or terrorist.
Consumers: "Wow, $90 for 8Gb???"
Server Owners: "Wow, $90 for 8Gb???"
Use-case is 100% of perspective on this.
Yeah totally, but do servers not come with M.2 slots for more typical storage devices?
@@vgamesx1 nowadays, yes
However, USB-DOMS, SATA-DOMS and even IDE-DOMS are way older technology.
Also, m.2s can be overkill, some hypervizors like esxi or proxmox can run off 8-32 gigs, meanwhile the cheapest enterprise m.2 I am aware of is 120GB and several times more expensive.
I have a few 32MB ADM/ADC they both interface using 32 pin DIPs but the modules a lot faster. Outside of servers the other application is noise/vibration critical environments. Things like studio mixing consoles run ATA-on chip, ATA-DOM, SATA-Dom or more recently CF cards.
Incidentally we've had more data problems with CF cards than the ATA-DOM they replaced
@@vgamesx1 storage servers need all the M.2 slots for high performance memory and caching. Why waste that for a boot drive?
it's 8GB, not 8Gb
“Baby you got a SKU goin’!” Caught me so off guard. Love seeing Anthony’s comedic timing get sharper and sharper.
omg was that an Arrested Development joke
@@aricedarlin Carl Weathers ftw! And the mashing bit seems like a Gail the Snail joke.
I heard this reference like 1 time, like, 10 years ago. I thought it was more obscure (I've never seen the show)
@@phoenixvance6642 Watch the SHOW it's sooooo goood!
Anthony is a blessing for LTT 💪🙏
I love that anthony is being protrayed as the tech god, I think it fits him very well
Its perfect and hilarious every time
He's used the Linux Command Line to transcend humanity
Surely not tech God lol. He's far from being one. Remember what he did with iMac. Lol
@@theeuropeanlegacy5075 shut up you don't exist, you are but a figment of my subconscious imagination lalalalalalalalalalala
@@theeuropeanlegacy5075 to be fair iMac and repairability are two words long separated
Finally Anthony's true form has been revealed
And I bet this isn't even his final form.
God of technology
That was only 5% of his power too
@@Maxypad05 jokes can't be better than this
@@Maxypad05 trollkid check out the writer
Oh boy, I remember those things from when I worked in a PC shop, but with an IDE interface. We've put them into racks that were destined for controlling machinery. Software ran under DOS6.22. 2GB of flash for IDE, directly plugged into the boards and the weird thing: They plugged into a fan header for power.
Floppy power connector. !
@@joefish6091 this is unlocking memories I forgot I had
they're fairly popular for miniaturized but hardware-accurate retro machines these days. Flash is very reliable for smaller boxes, and using the original storage interface for old OSes and Bioses is really handy.
@@curvingfyre6810 Especially because most forms of storage from the time are unreliable because of age
Or the ones that plug into a floppy drive and simulate multiple floppies on an SD card, for industrial equipment whose only programmability is through a floppy drive.
We used thousands of this type of drive at the embedded pc company I used to work at. The 4gb ones made great boot drives for WES in half-height, fanless mini-itx boxes. The Intel d945gsejt Johnstown board had a USB header specifically made to accept these. I used to have a few dozen of them that were working, but had been destined for the scrap bin because of minor issues.
Yep, first thing I thought was 'boot drive"
I adore David's creativity for the B-roll shots
LMG is just overflowing with awesome people!
ya idk about that...... the fleet of editors helps a lot. Anthony has been tech god long before all the other people were hired
Yes he is a really good guitarist
Anthony is the best reason of me to watch LTP, the other one is to see if Linus dropped another expansive piece of tech.
100% believe Anthony has the ability to teleport via dialup modem sounds.
It just wouldn't be faster than walking
Yes!!
@@OrbitalGirl e-mail through dial-up is still faster then mailing a physical letter
With out losing connection once
@@ajddavid452 oh and it doesn't get "Stolen off your porch, hmm 🤔 seems superior imo. I when can we have it?
I was unaware anyone still used these. For a few model generations in the mid-2000s - mid-2010s, we used these in the Point-of-Sale space (we called them uDOCs - Disk on Chip). They were a BIG improvement over HDDs, as in the restaurant space your terminal can get hit, food/drink spilled on it, and subject to extreme temps - all of which could degrade or potentially kill an HDD, which equals downtime. Additionally, using USB 2.0 they were faster than PATA/IDE/CompactFlash (and SSDs weren't anywhere near cheap enough) so although admittedly the actual uDOC speed could vary greatly, at least the connector wasn't the bottleneck. Also, while they had little storage, you didn't really need that much as our terminals would run stripped down WinXPe or WES and all of the "brains" would be on the back office server. They eventually were displaced by the similar-looking uSSD modules.
Quality Anthony content as always! Tho gotta admit I'm not a fan of the increasing trend of meaningless video titles. Looking back at the recent list of
"IDK what I just bought",
"I hate it when he's right",
"I can die now",
"I've waited so long for this".
I assume clickbait helps get views, but can't it at least be on-topic clickbait? Even with "Apple makes my brain hurt" I at least get a hint that it's Apple-related.
I'm glad the last PC build I'll ever need got "the last build guide you'll ever need", but the once-in-a-lifetime Intel fab tour video that took months of work and countless rounds of approval, just gets a meaningless "I can die now.", if you hadn't embedded the actual title and content in the video thumbnail I probably would have just skipped it.
Anthony is BiS.
the real worst is they'll title the video something when it comes out, then a day or so later theyll change the title so you cant find it when your looking through again
This has been a thing on LTT for 5 years now and I doubt it'll ever end since it drives up viewership. I miss the days of descriptive titles and the text over product shot thumbnails.
I wouldn't mind if the clickbait title was followed by a proper title to make it easier to find a specific video (or even a keyword) Like they do with shortcircuit video titles. Benefits of both options.
So "I can die now - Intel fab tour" instead of just "I can die now"
LTT does it for some video titles, mostly reviews eg "Nvidia missed the memo - GeForce RTX 3090 Ti"
Can we just have the same for the rest of the no info clickbait titles. Please. It's gotten so bad it's now lowering my watch time on the channels that do this to the extent that the video titles are basically meaningless. Remember how pissed we all were when youtube removed the dislike counter, precisely because you'd have to waste your time watching part of a video (and/or read the comments) to work out if it was even worthwhile? Meaningless titles for clickbait is achieving the exact same thing now, which Linus & the vast majority of subscribers rightly called out as bullshit which actively makes youtube worse.
I don't care if you have clickbait titles, as long as there's some meaningful info in there too. Is that really too much to ask
@@whostolemunchkin Wow, that's funny! Looking at the intel video now, they've done exactly what you suggested. I hope that starts a trend of them adding more descriptive titles to their videos.
that intro was fire
He is the tech god
Finally, Anthony has received his proper role as electrogod.
Electro god vs tech jesus when
Wait, that means Anthony is Raiden tech tips
Well, not Raiden Shogun that's for sure. She's not a nerd into tech
But Raiden Jack, uhhhh... Is he a tech nerd???
Thank you so much for posting this. I just received an old storage server and NO IDEA what the little box connected to a SATA cable was (google wasn't helping). Clearly it's storage, and I suspected it would be the boot drive, but here comes Anthony with perfect timing explaining what a DOM is.
I make my own version of these for using on my home Linux servers for boot. By that I mean literally /boot (and /boot/efi these days). It makes software RAID so much easier to manage and you can even have your OS on a software RAID-5/6. Saves all that messing about with partitioning your drives etc. The very limited writes (just grub and kernel updates) mean that any decent bit of flash will easily out last the life span on the motherboard it's installed on. The next trick is to have a cron job to rsync the flash drive on the OS disks. Then even if does fail, and you will likely notice when it does, but because it's only needed at boot time or during kernel/grub updates, you can replace the flash drive, copy the contents back on from the OS disks and reinstall grub and you are good to go. That said I have never actually needed to do that out side testing as the flash drives simply don't get enough use to fail.
“Baby you got a sku going”
I love this script and whoever wrote it, absolute perfection :)
The writer for the video is listed as Adam Sondergard, they credit those involved in the video at the end
That reference is phenomenal haha
It's an Arrested Development reference. It's one of the best satirical comedies ever produced.
Anthony does a great Carl Weathers
Anthony is a gift to society and he must be cherished and protected.
Linus is better
my brethren you know the way
I love how all these people giving condescending compliments make him sound special needs. You don't have to compliment him because he's obese.
And praised
@@GlivGluv Condescending? He has an extremely friendly personality and truly wants to educate people. Nothing to do with his weight, he's an awesome dude.
I THOROUGHLY enjoyed the intro for its entertainment value, but the rest was equally enjoyable for its informative value. I'm fairly keen on older hardware (I guess not so much on a server level) and didn't know these existed! Was a very interesting watch!
When I was an electronic technician for *non disclosed company* we used similar ones as the main storage for the voting and other machines, we used 2gb and 16gb modules depending on the specific device
I'm the IT manager of a datacenter. I've got at least 200 of those installed. A lot of Mobo's come with internal type A's now but finding that level of quality flash on a type A drive isn't easy and there is still a security issue with using a conventional thumbdrive.
Has there been any instances wherein these sort of USB2-Dom flash drives cause issues and/or you're being pressured to upgrade/change? The message I got from the video was that, yes, they're slow, but they're also pretty bulletproof. Curious to hear some real world experience with these things.
@@BrucifyMe I don't work for something as big as a datacenter so idk how things are on that scale but we do run a couple servers and i've certainly noticed more systems moving away from usb/discouraging the use. However from what i've seen it is almost exclusively for reliabilty not for performance. For example Freenas/Trunas and ESXi used to be all about running from basic usb drives/sd cards but now no longer recommend it. A good usb dom will be as reliable as a good ssd but the software can't distinguish it from a generic shoddy stick so it refuses to run from it to protect the user from potential data loss.
Now why that change, i don't know. My guess is that not having to keep your writes to a minimum makes it easier to develop/opens more options. Maybe generic usb drives have just gotten worse and degrade over time by themselves. Giving up 2 of your 8 drive bays for OS hurts but the industry knows this, esxi and proxmox let you use your boot drive as datastore as well and more servers seem to come with internal sata plugs or nvme slots instead of usb ports and sd slots now.
I can at least say with certainty, that our freenas/trunas boxes have started eating more usbs over the years untill we replaced them with ssds (one of them has now 2 nvme ssds in usb enclosures inside, since usb ports is all it has. Certainly not the proper way but so far there were no problems lol)
Now again, I am just an IT for a small company and we have maybe 10 servers with various OSes and software, so my experience is probaply not a reflection of the bigger picture or the bleeding edge
How is this better than an M.2 though? He mentioned size, speed, and security (by means of being internal) as the advantages of this thing, and M.2 meets or beats all of these requirements. So why haven't they been made obsolete?
@@BrucifyMe They are very reliable. SLC flash in this sort of usage lasts essentially forever. Checking my records I do not have any of these ever being reported as bad. We do have fewer than we bought so some have stayed in servers when the servers went off to be refurbed/ecycled though and in some cases those boxes had failed and the box was old enough that we just grabbed the drives and RAM and sent the rest off without even trying.
@@Ace-pc2cm Strictly speaking it isn't. But M.2 wasn't a thing back when those came out. You can currently get SLC M.2 drives that fill the same need.
Anthony + David, nice. Glad to see David in front of the camera more, he's a fantastic "character" actor for these bits.
I concur, Doctor
mmmm... nah
The cheapest nand available...Perfectly explains my "USB 3.0" thumb drive that writes in a maddening rollercoaster fashion between 7MB/S and 24MB/S...at least it reads at 120+ MB/S but when you start a 45 gb transfer to it, then come back half an hour later and it's only partially done, it's quite frustrating.
Seems like nowadays you have to get a microSD card and a USB adapter to have predictable performance. They could do better in the larger space of a thumb drive, but microSD has such a larger market that it gets the attention. SD seems specialized now for professional cameras.
Just when i thought this channel cant get any better. :P This was not only fun to watch, but i also go tto learn something too. 10/10!
Hey LTT, just passed the CompTIA A+ core 1001 test. Wouldn’t have found my passion for tech without this channel, keep it up. Love you all
Congrats! Got mine in like 04 after being inspired by Tech TV to pursue an IT career path
Anthony finally getting the respect he deserves
When I was a teenager I worked at my town's Radio Shack. The assistant manager was a really sharp self taught computer guy who would tell me about peculiar components like these. All of my computer knowledge became obsolete shortly after leaving that job in 2005.
I really enjoyed this.
Learning about esoteric enterprise hardware is one of my favorite things, because you typically get to figure out through that where some of the consumer grade hardware derived from and the justification behind some of the more peculiar choices that manufacturers make for their enterprise clientele.
Anthony whipped that Arrested Development pun out of nowhere I almost missed it.. Glad to see he’s getting more comfortable on camera. More of this! Thanks!!
Honestly, I’m surprised that Anthony isn’t joining Linus & Jake for the other server videos.
He should! He would be the perfect third host!!!
It's not interesting if there's no drama.
Dude, the video will be over in 3 mins if he is in it.
There's a limit to how many projects someone can work on effectively. Linus talked about this a couple weeks ago on WAN.
We haven't invented a time machine or perfect synchronized cloning yet. He can do this, or he can be a third wheel with Linus and Jake, you can only have one.
I've picked up a few used DOMs for my home server builds without any issues, unlike the USB sticks I've also used with around a 50% failure rate. Worthwhile for booting 'nix type sever OS.
I'm using Kingston thumb drives in my home projects (mainly ESXi). so far no issues. Don't even think, that my DL380s have internal usb-headers - never checked :D
Loved the perv part of the intro. I always knew that that part is international in the tech community but damn - never thought it spread all the way to canada.
Anthony is definitely the right guy for the job. I don't skip any of his videos.
Tis true! Anytime Anthony is in a video I know I'm gonna get some fringe tech info that is usually awesome
main reason why i stayed lol
Hands down best LTT intro ever
Na the best one is definitely the Japanese business meeting one for the keyboard mouse video
@@originalname5233 nah man, it lacks Anthony
@@alemutasa6189 fair enough
2 of those in my small office environment FreeNas are still going strong after 7yrs(its been replaced but still serves as an excellent off site backup) spekaing of which that may be a great video idea... ZFS snapshot backup is the best offsite backup ever conceived
We use these all the time in 1U servers at my work. Super handy for a lightweight boot solution that doesn't need much local storage like PFSense or TrueNAS, or even Proxmox if you configure it right
It's a little overkill, but these could probably be used to store bitlocker encryption keys safely!
Possibly, although a lot of servers and thin clients do have enclosed USB and SD card ports to store the OS or additional storage. Similar to this but without the need for an additional USB header or an expensive storage device like this. It’s what a lot of servers running baremetal software like VMware do.
@@skraegorn7317 Which Anothny does mention in the video
Well, no, really you should use a TPM for that. You don't need the key itself, you just need the key/module to supply the correct output. Otherwise, it's possible for the key to be copied, then later your data read without you knowing.
A TPM won't let you read the contents, so it becomes a non-fungible authentication token. If you have it, you know nobody else does, and your data is safe. If you don't, your data may not be able to be read by you anymore, but that's what backups are for.
Do not do this.
Anthony is the best. The intro vid was great, and I love his nerding about obscure topics. I'm always happy whenever we get an anthony video for sure, fills my heart.
“It’s just like an M.2 but with much, much worse performance.” 🤣🤣🤣
I DEMAND TO SEE AN INTRO LIKE THIS ONE ON EVERY SINGLE VIDEO OF ANTHONY FROM NOW ON !!! THIS IS PRICELESS !!! 💚💚💚
"Baby you've got a SKU going" got me rolling
Been using these in our POS systems for over a decade. I even have a cable with standard USB A on the one and the header on the other so I can plug these in externally to image and convert them as needed between different hardware setups. It appears as just a USB drive when plugged in.
Does POS mean what I think it means or is it an actual term lol
@@truereaper4572 Point of Sale (payment terminal + usually a cash box aka register)
@@truereaper4572 point of sale, the cash registers
You can usually get a laugh out of your counter staff when their POS isn't working by calling it a POS POS
I mean, if you're using a Point-of-Sale machine to run a brand new AAA title, then it will be a POS machine.
I can certainly see use for this. I used to run pfSense as my network gateway/firewall. I ran it with booting from a compactflash module since it just ran in RAM anyway. It worked for a few years, but eventually the CF card failed. A couple times. I do run Unraid on a USB now on my storage server... I might want to look into something like this myself. Has to be USB due to how Unraid handles licenses, but I certainly expect to run that server for 5+ years.
Subtle Arrested Development reference was the best part of this video, caught me totally off guard and I nearly spat out my drink.
"you got yourself a sku going" is the best line in any ltt video in the last decade
At my old job we had 4GB ones called UDOCs that we'd install inside our POS terminals
DOM and uDOC are the same thing, almost. uDOC is Disk On Chip (I have no idea what the leading 'u' is for).
Why were your terminals pieces of shit ?
@@Gatorade69 Usually POS means point of sale. Although handling them makes you think of your meaning.
@@Nekomancer1983 Yeah I know, I was just making a bad joke ;) Hated the POS at a restaurant I worked at.
@@Gatorade69 This was back in 2012/13 when the terminals were running XP embedded
I remember a while back (can't remember what video it was) saying it was the best intro ever... I was wrong...FREAKING awesome!
That Arrested Development reference was absolute class! Caught me off-guard and now I'm craving some Bluth!
They also make PATA DOMs! I've seen some cool uses of those, for example to replace an old HDD with an SSD in ancient Macs.
I have installed multiple compact flash to IDE adapters with industrial grade CF cards in commercial equipment. The oldest of them are coming up on 10 years of service with no disk-related downtime.
Bahahaha that intro was amazing.
I must say, i love David's B roll
Easily so much better than stock pictures or footage
David's great
we just used a usb internal header to dual usb-a adapters and quality flash drives for this back in the day, something similar to this could be useful for pre-uefi systems if clover or the like was preinstalled...
great detailed video Anthony - thanks . i learned a lot. this might also be good for a raspberry pi that needs highest possible reliability..
BEST LTT INTRO EVER!!!! NONE CAN COMPETE! YOU JUST SELF OWNED INTO PERFECTION!
This is perfect for me. I hate having an external usb on my server and didn't know these existed. I know what I'm getting next for my server!
We used to have these in servers - they can be useful for servers that the OS drive is very lightweight, not performant requirement (i.e. runs in RAM). For a time, VMWare was big on pushing them.
"baby you got a SKU going"
love the arrested development reference.
Yeah, that caught me *real* off guard. Laughed so hard I had to pause.
I love how Anthony is the tech god Bc he’s got probably the most important technical knowledge out of all the LTT staff but i also like how it’s just kind of a low key thing like “hey let’s ask Anthony”
I have such a module. It is on a board I pulled from a working QNAP NAS rack server. I got it for free from a friend but without the cages. I don't have the space for rack hardware, so I took the internals and got rid of the case.
i hope anthony gets his own channel, he definately has the most informative videos on ltt now.
I have dozens of these USB DOMs. They're awesome for the right application.
This reminds me of Cisco server SD cards which plug inside the motherboard and you can use these to boot up the OS. But they have to be “Cisco compatible” SD cards, which of course means the price is about 20X to 100X higher. And when we got them, they were just Sandisk cards with some custom firmware 😂
It's the custom that gets ya
They also weren't immune to just randomly dying on you. Plus, you had to fight with them via the UCSM web interface when anything went wrong. We basically never used them if we didn't absolutely have to.
5:25 Beatiful Arrested Development reference!
Still got a few of the IDE versions of these in my drawer, they were really useful back in the day.
1:25
Programmer: *searches "how to kill child"*
FBI agent: Uhhhhh, ah hes a programmer, all is fine
Bring the intro back! People aren't skipping the intro, you doofus, we're skipping the sponsor spot
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The lighting and camera work was very nice this episode. Very fun!
Yep, Doms are useful. I managed to get a few sata doms, work great converting a small 64 bit desktop into a freenas server.
Hiring Anthony was the best decision any company ever made. I dont know why, but he seems so trustworthy and somehow makes boring stuff interesting.
Classic computer geek. So I find him reassuring. If it looks like a duck. 😃
I like how in enterprise tech, even usb drives are 10 times more expensive than consumer grade devices.
Don’t worry, I watched the video and saw the differences, this is just a joke.
It's just how enterprise tech is. When you have SLAs and uptime is paramount, you spend whatever it takes to ensure that things keep working until you're ready to migrate to a new machine and decommission the old one. It's a large part of the reason why servers are so ludicrously expensive. Manufacturers spend years designing, testing, and validating them to ensure that all of the hardware for their expected use cases works with it flawlessly and, if it doesn't, they have to figure out why and release firmware, driver, or BIOS updates to ensure that this is remedied. It's why a lot of manufacturers have their own R&D datacenters where their internal units will have racks full of their servers to continue to test their partners' and customers' use cases on to ensure compliance and validate performance and functionality. And when things don't work, they figure out ways to force them to work with BIOS, firmware, or driver updates. And because these are enterprise grade servers, that ongoing support for stuff like that has to be carried out for the entire lifespan of the product on all of the operating systems that the company officially supports. For instance, when the company I used to work for was coding a new release version of a piece of software that allowed you to interface with, provision, and manage storage device LUNs from their arrays, we set up insane LUN configurations for just about every OS out there and, because they maintained support for a lot of legacy devices for some of their customers, this could extend to OSes that were technically past their EoL. I remember setting up testing environments for RedHat, SLES, Windows of three generations, Oracle Linux, Solaris of three generations, AIX of two generations, and even HPUX. Provisioning the maximum number of LUNs to a single host or provisioning on max paths were always the most troublesome to set up. And we were testing across basically all of the arrays that the company produced and a couple third party arrays, so we would sometimes have a single machine or a handful of machines configured with connections through the SAN to over a dozen different arrays. The LUNs were often quite small and they were all thin-provisioned, so it didn't really matter to the arrays, but man did it take a while to get those ready for them. But, thanks to that, I ended up being basically on the ground floor for when companies began offering NVMe backed storage arrays and I got to watch our various partner companies fumble their way through figuring out how to make NVMe a packetable and switchable protocol standard. Like, when I started working there NVMe-FC and NVMe-RoCE were just being spoken about in hushed tones at the HBA and storage manufacturers as a possibility, and I got to see it come to fruition. Pretty cool stuff, really.
Virtualization servers with no local storage will often have a internal USB header boot device with the Hypervisor loaded on it, as all the VMs are on Fiber Channel SAN.
"Master and Salve" is used in vehicles too. In hydraulic systems e.g. your brakes, you'll have the Master Cylinder (at your brake pedal) and a Slave Cylinder (at your brake calipers). I imagine this is what inspired the terminology in IT, and vehicles likely got it from elsewhere (before we reach the origin of the phrase.)
And we also have "Male and Female" connectors, which is also used in Plumbing.
1:20 2 minutes of silence for those who didn't understand this. 😂
I have been using Intel Optane 16gb M.2 drive as boot drives.
I have 2x on a Supermicro PCIE card in ZFS-Z1 for my PFsense and TrueNas Scale boxes. Very high endurance for the size, but they are cheap as hell
That's a really great use case for them. Almost instant booting and they're quite durable.
Recognized immediately and that intro was awesome. USB DOM. It's probably not for you, gamers, modders or anyone with a permanent investment in PC gaming but it's useful. It's for guys like me that need a stop gap for booting WinPE, lightweight linux, or lightweight Windows Server between dedicated disk assignment or a separate dump for logging. They all have complete junk controllers now that everyone is on something Phison related but are typically priced on the type of flash used, be it SLC ($$$) or MLC ($). The angle of the connector also matters. Mine was an inline BiWin unit for $10 on eBay. It lasted from December to early April and used exclusively to boot NanoServer on an Acer Boxer motherboard. This was to keep external USB ports clear while alloting the only two SATA connections with massive HDDs. It worked until it could no longer. That's just how it goes.
For everyone doing some kind of programming, just pick a few unstable/throwaway USB 3.x rated UDPs and call it a day. The only reason to pick any of those 9-pin DOMs is when you don't have a more suitable USB port or the ability to use PCI-E. Even the 20-pin USB 3.0 DOM is falling behind. When your read speed goes from 10MB/s over USB 2.0 to 125MB/s on USB 3.x, it becomes a more than suitable boot utility over a regular USB-A. At that point you've won. GG no RE. Thank me later.
Hey Anthony, nice to see a review for that peculiar piece of hardware, by the way I've found many of those USB DOM's inside of NetApp storage controllers, like for ex. FAS2240, I believe that they are also used in many other models from that vendor, they are very slow but they are mostly used just to boot OS image, so performance is no something important. Best regards.
The intro is great
Would have been cool to know for my truenas build, guess I'll have to remember for when v2 comes around
love the openness of the scrnchies
i love this channel
anthony is so damn loveable. love the videos he does, would love to see a spin off series of his own!
That intro tho 😂
Have seen those drives in industrial electronics as boot drive. Nice enclosed with watertight case + heat sink :)
Better not to break or you have to do lot of work to replace that. Usually it contains custom embedded Linux image.
The intro was life changing, and also a solid Arrested Development reference!
Oh, I have a couple IDE DoMs! They do require a power connector unsurprisingly. Also, if anyone wants to know why they still exist- for old industrial equipment that still uses IDE.
In some cases yes they do, however in others they rely on Pin 20 on the connector to be present and suppying current. I have an old thin client where this is the case.
There are DOMs for the 44pin IDE connector used on 2.5" drives. No external power needed. Very common in older thin clients.
Lord Anthony has made his return!!!
We handle a bunch of those in my job. I work with satellite positioning and few devices uses these kind of usb SSD to store RINEX/RAW GPS data inside of it, few cases even the firmware. Sometimes we gotta change those. Never came to mind to plug into a normal computer's usb header to see what it shows, tho.
I really appreciated the Arrested Development reference. Gonna use that at work next time were making a custom sku
Sometimes you really need a specific device and you are happy actually finding somebody, who offers it. My 11 years old laptop has an unused microPCIe slot inside. Since it doesn't have dedicated graphics, I hoped some kind of low end graphics card for that exists, but no. Other than that, I didn't know what I could potentially use it for. Not many useful devices come in this form factor, but I stumbled upon something very useful: a microPCIe card simply containing a USB3 socket. May sound pointless, but it's the perfect utility for the dongle of the wireless mouse. Since the laptop only came with 2 USB2 slots and 1 rather slow USB3 slot, not having filled 1 of them at all times with the dongle was pretty appealing.
Most likely it's just a blue USB 2 socket. I had a laptop from 2008 with a Mini PCIe slot for a cache card. That didn't do much, if anything, for performance but the slot did have USB 2 in it. So I got an adapter and plugged a tiny 128 gig drive into it for extra storage.
@@greggv8 Which one do you mean? The original USB3 socket? That's definately USB3, it transfers at 90MB/s, that USB2 can't even theoretically reach. If you mean my microPCIe adapter with USB - I have never checked the speed of it, and I couldn't. The way it sits in the laptop only allows for very tiny sticks, and I don't have such small ones. It suits the tiny dongle though.
Currently it's not in use at all, because sadly the mouse has very bad connection quality, so since it needs to send the signal through the laptop internals to that adapter on the rear, the signal is very choppy.
Now where you mention it, I should try to measure it's speed just for fun.
My issue with internal USB storage devices is that "Reattaching" it is a pain after accidentally clicking "eject" on it.
The USB conector which shown on 7:28 I've been looking for that for a while, why is it there for, I have one on my motherboard too funny enough, a Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO (rev. 1.0) that is, but now i know, thx Anthony your the best 😁
i used to put an sd card in one of the ide ports with an adapter. the only thing on it was grub, which i used for multiboot as i was playing around with a lot of operating systems at the time.
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I found it funny that Anthony laughed at SATA Dom but not Three Header Dom
Go away Verlisify!
explain pls xd I'm non a native english speaker or I'm just stupid, but what does SATA Dom refer to?
@@stonedhackerman not sure about SATA, but "dom" in the joking sense would probably refer to the 2nd letter, D, in a certain adult-only 4-letter abbreviation.
Hopefully RUclips's automod considers this slightly roundabout explanation acceptable.
@@dside_ru or, alternatively, dominator/dominatrix (sp?)
@@AmperahGaming I can't imagine the illness you carry around all the time like that
I picked up some Apacer 8Y.F1CD4.LR25B 16 gigabyte SATA DOM units dirt cheap. They have the same data+power connector as hard drives. They fit into small places because unlike a "Half Slim" SATA SSD the Apacer ones have a PCB that's slightly narrower than the connector. They're ideal for an application like a HP T7540 thin client, installed with a SATA+power right angle adapter. The mounting ears on the adapter have to be cut off so it fits between the expansion slot and a large capacitor.
The expansion slot is for the PCI or PCIe adapter that goes into the case expansion that adds the one slot plus a LPT and second RS232 port. The PCIe is a x16 slot that's only connected as x4. Should you desire to do something with one of these little low power computers, someone on Amazon has a ton of the expansion kits, new in box, for $13 each. Until yesterday I was using one with the 32 bit version of Open Media Vault 5, maximum RAM, and an eSATA PCIe card connected to a 3.5" external 500 gig drive. I wanted a cheap DLNA server and it worked perfectly.
What has replaced it is a $65 2011 Mac Mini from a thrift store. I bought a kit to install a 2nd internal hard drive and put in a 500 gig and a 2TB. Being 64 bit it can take more RAM and the faster CPU (and everything else) can handle more users if needed.
I didn't know this existed and now I immediately want one. My server is running Unraid on a flash drive and I hate that the flash drive uses up one of the two USB ports and just kinda sticking out there vulnerable to accidents.
Anthony: ...not that kind of DOM
Web developers: that's not what I had in mind...
Suuuure 😏
@@resneptacle we agreed to keep this between us!
It's nice to see Anthony finally showing his true form and embracing his role as the Tech God.
They are used in point of sale terminals. Older NCR POS terminals, NCR 1220 or 1520 had them.
Once in time I have so many of these DOMs laying on my desk. Like about 120 different models? The time was before SSD became a thing, we want to benchmark all available on market as a part of vendor selection. I had to write my own disk benchmark software. Fun old times.
Anthony just needs his own LTT channel at this point. I would 100% sub to it.
A DOM channel to sub to.
@@LordWaldema ooooh shit
ANTHONY OUR GOD IS NOW AN ACTUAL GOD