Proof The Quran Is Corrupted! Conflicting Textual Variants (Part 1).
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In this video I refute Muslim claims about the Quran. I compare conflicting textual variants from two different Arabic Qurans (in this case, the Hafs and Doori versions). Enjoy!
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Don'tConvert2Islam I am greatly honored that Our Lord opened your eyes and heart to start living in the Water and spreading the truth out of Love for His Created. I am going to set a playlist on my channel for studies of your channel. Let’s come and see what the Lord has for us and edge one another if it be His Will. Peace be with you my brother in Christ, Always seek the truth but the fullness of His truth. I will keep you in my prayers through the Rosary
Missguided says error an error will lead you to The Hellfire you have a press yourself and jahannam Waits For You why you go again uno you going to be punished
@Samson Hesh lol your Salomon has 700 women tho...are you read the Bible? 😂😂😂
@Samson Hesh why he dont? Did he prophet?..okay what about loth?..😂😂 what he did to own blood ...now you compare God to prophet?...listen bro if you talk about Muhammad Saw ..better research with your own self...than you will see what Islam is.. may Allah guide US ..don't worship that something irasional..look back at the 10 comandment
@Samson Hesh well Adam more supernaturaly than jesus😂😂😂 because he don't have any parents
So islam rejects the trinity but accepts multiplicity power. This is nothing but a parlor card trick.
Mountain Cynic atleast we understand it and you apparently too, unlike the trinity.
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Jeffrey Emrick The fact that we can see in the bible they’re actually not one, bcs the father is greater then Jesus Jesus isn’t allknowing, the holy spirit can’t speak at his own willl,... contradiction after contradictions
Jeffrey Emrick But I don’t believe the bible has been preserved and it has contradictions and Allah put a test in the Qur’an, He said if that book has alot of contradictions it is not from Me. Every proohet that before Jesus teached there is one God (Jesus teaxhed there is one God too), but still you believe in the trinity and if I want to follow Jesus I stayin islam, because islam follows Jesus better then any christian and more strictly.
Jeffrey Emrick Qur’an 4:82: “Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction.”
Try explaining this to an actual Muslims. Even when you show them the exact verse and they still deny it and accuse you of lying and Islamophobia lol
well ur profile pic shows clear homophobia, also why is your whole account based on muslims and islam? sounds like fan behavior to me
@@user-mh3ps4ld8k how is this picture homophobic you moron? Also, as an ExMuslim I always critisize Islam. It is a horrible religion. And how do you know my account is all about Islam? Are you on drugs?
@@Boznaniac i mean islamophobic and u were never a true muslim if you think islam is a hateful religion. your profile picture and name says enough about u
@@user-mh3ps4ld8k my name says enough about me? It just said my name and that I am a non-believer. I was Muslim for 20 years. Studied Islam from the time I was 8 years old. I read that stupid ass book 6 times so far. Everytime I read it, it got worse and worse. Do you even know what a true Muslim is?
@@Boznaniac why did you exactly leave islam? and assuming from your profile picture there’s no way you’re older than 13
Brother, we need more teachings as you have been a Muslim and have studied Islam. I look forward for more.
I got better teachers.
Are you still a Muslim
@@fuzbeatboxern5714 , If you ask me, I answer yes.
@@fuzbeatboxern5714 this video is so hilarious its called قرأت and the prophet used the 7 قرات so the prophet said both of them and used it he is trying to make people leave islam by using their ignorance
@@youssefmohamed3603 Exactly ignorance, just as imams and so called islamic scholars use against their own''umma''
Brother Ishmael: When you meet a Muslim apologist for the first time, and he starts cycling through the standard objections (That's not what it means; and if does mean that, it's not a problem; and if it is a problem, it's not a big problem; and if it's a big problem, it's only because you aren't reading it in Arabic; and if you are reading it in Arabic, you don't have the schooling to make a qualified interpretation...), I imagine you must witness some nervous expressions as he nears the end of the list and realizes nothing has worked. :-)
@@lllllliiiiillllll We can agree on two counts:
1) The Bible, written by multiple people across thousands of years, is super-humanly cohesive and coherent in comparison to the single-author Qur'an; and
2) All religions certainly look the same, when viewed from a great distance through dark glasses.
Know Islam no peace No Islam know peace
Truth Exposer hater gonna hate, no hater the world will be peace
Where can we download these versions of qurans? In Indonesia its not possible to buy,the risk is jail or death
In the dark net i have seen some open libraries with qurans, but im not sure if they are in
Where do you purchase your various qira'at from?
I can't decide which of the AL LAHs, do both have shins?
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explain
I am glad you're on friendly terms with David Wood! And thank you for your strive for the cause of truth.
Why are some words spelled differently in the Holy Quran? - Arabic101 ruclips.net/video/6wMwHCa73bM/видео.html
Great channel.. can we reupload your videos.
Please watch this video The SEVEN Ahrof & the TEN Qira'aat of Quran - EXPLAINED! - Arabic101 ruclips.net/video/8hj7u0F3yEg/видео.html
In this video it answers the following TEN questions:
1- What does harf mean? What are the seven ahrof of Quran?
2- Why do we even have seven ahrof for the Holy Quran?
3- What kind of changes/ examples are we talking about when it comes to variations of the Quran?
4- What are Qira’at (modes of recitation)? And is it linked to Ahrof of Quran?
5- What is riwayah (narration) of the quran?
6- What is tareeiq (method) of the quran?
7- Can you have your own method of reading Quran?
8- If ahorf is a similar word to dialect, can we use today’s dialects to read the Quran?
9- Indispensable sources for those who are interested in Qira’at.
10- I am an absolute beginner in the Holy Quran, do I have to know this?
I think you understand arabic better than many so callsed "modern muslims"
Games4us lol his arabic is basic
Thats why hes having an understanding how these things go
Hes a joke lol
@@manytookthischannel9394 your joke, he is canadian. How many languages do you speak. Arabs speak 0 languages in general 😂🤘buhu
well let's start smashing your claims by telling you
in arabic using We instead of I is a way of showing that you are superior like if you are a king same way no difference and god" Allah speaks about himself using WE not as if Allah is more than one but it is as he is talking in way to show that he is superior
same way when you speak french and instead of using Je you use Nous
and when you speak to someone in a respectful way you say Vous not Tu
better please learn arabic before you try to do claims based on nothing!!
adding to that Quran came in different readings as arabs had different accents of standard arabic same meaning different way of saying.
sweet you believe me you need to start studying before throwing claims out of nothing
in hafs Quraan Allah speaks about himself in both ways using "We and I" do not just put claims that in an accent of
quran it is all WE and another is All I
using we doesn't mean he is powerful in the thing and if he used I he is not powerful in it
based on that those were two different accents of Arabic back then all what you have just said is just fake claims
obviously you are just trying to satisfy yourself and your followers
Allah in all these different Accent Qurans is the same so just quit playing with people's minds claiming that we have two Allahs
4:47
another lie from you or let's say wrong understanding from you
just the Accent is different same meaning
the translation for both is " and for them a painful punishment because of what they disbelieved/denied" just stop making lies please!!
you would have got this if you were arabic but nah you can't!!
5:25
again the accent is the reason
The Quran can be called "Word of god Allah" and can be called "Words of God Allah"
same for the bible
either you look at it as a whole and call it word of god or look at it as holy words and call it words of god!!
come on man enough of this really
again 5:55
Accent is the factor of difference
still same meaning nothing is changed
but really clearly you have no clue how the language works true you can read it in a wonderful way but the understanding is not as perfect as a native arabic speaker!!
once again using We or I doesn't add or take any power from Allah or God
same god different way of saying the sentence coz of the factor of different Arabic Accents!!
7:59
now this verse is just out of it's place of you will just mention this word you have to go back and read the verse 23
then you will understand that god Allah is giving an example talking about the prophets he sent before
then he tells a story that often happens when ever god sends a prophet
so a prophet is referred to as he
now He said
and the order SAY
is just different as a matter of different accent
still the meaning is the same
god says "He said" and a prophet says what god Allah tells him to say the second one is God Allah is ordering Him to "SAY" just
now go back in history bring the old Quran of hafs you will find it the same as the present day hafs
go back in time to old Quran of Dori
you will find it the same as Present day Dori
The differences here are just accent differences nothing more the meaning is still the same!!
now i would love to say closing all what i wrote
Don't listen to this guy
better listen to yourself and search on your own
as he clearly has no clue what different Readings "Accents" of Quran are!!
he can't even understand the verses as he is not native he sees it different as he can't connect the words right!!!now ARabic grammar is the hardest and your translations were based on wrong grammatical understandings
@@chamberofsecrets169 I'm Egyptian and I speak English, french, German and Japanese fluently .-. なぜあなたはとても失礼なことをしなければなりません
You are saying that he know arabic clearly means that you don't understand arabic at all
U can also add where and what does the sun do after sun set.
Religions could be judged by their fruits to mankind i.e. how they made better people, improved peace, justice, holiness, reduced violence and other vices etc. These should tell anyone which to follow. And the person(s) should study the sayings and especially actions of those that brought the religion (from when they started it) to know what that religion is truly about and not what other people say or do.
Very well said...
Isn't it wrong to think that man can be made better by religions? Consider Netherlands. Netherlands is one of the countries in the world which has the lowest crime rate. Why? 50.1% of the people are irreligious and Netherlands ranks 10th among countries in the world by Human Development Index (0.931). So it's been proven that irreligious people are more peace loving than the religious people who are concerned about 'Satan" vs 'God'.
Islam has contributed nothing to mankind. It hasn't improved medical technology, it hasn't contributed to any inventions , it hasn't improved science nothing.
@@vik56in if that's what u think then u need to research history my friend
@@lestahass8849 Islam and Moslems didn't invent the penicilin, they didn't invent the stent, they didn't invent the pacemaker, they didn't invent the X-ray. Moslems didn't invent the aeroplane or the car.Everything that is saving the lives of Moslems have been invented by Non Moslems. It is because for Moslems , Islam does the thinking for them. Moslems are unable to think beyond their world for them to be able to contribute to huanity.
If the ‘peaceful’ Muslims could counter your well researched claims... they would have. Instead, they are trying to berate and ignite you. THAT... is actually revealing their frustration with you. They are just harming themselves. I am a Muslim, and I have been questioning Islam for the last 2 years. I am so glad I found you... stay blessed
Aamz Gal u still a Muslim?
Keep your fire lit , Your soul is guiding you..God bless
BK Baller good said brother, and dont leave Islam its the true relligion if you have questions please ask me
FATTY LIKE I have plz answer
1)does Quran have any scientific error? 2)why Islam is the most hated religion in the world?
3) plz Explain the truth of violent verses of quran
1) there is no error if people say to you that one verse is wrong look it up for yourself and you"ll see for yourself
2) with everything going on in the world with all the attacks that are happening that is the reason
3)ruclips.net/video/vSs6Un3C06Y/видео.html watch this video this explains it
some people really take it out of context
Father God I hope and pray that my friend who is dying because of sickness will see this and open her heart to know Jesus
@Lerory Jiggins what?
@Lerory Jiggins cool
@Lerory Jiggins are you high?
@Lerory Jiggins yeah, definitely high. Poor guy
This is very good at exposing much of the problem with the original Qur'ans. They were written WITHOUT diacritical marks for vowels and otherwise identical consonants. The variants prove the inadequacy of oral recitation to convey the vowels and consonant distinctions - that is why when people _did_ add the diacritical marks or dots they exposed this by producing literally hundreds of different Arabic qira'at versions of Qur'ans and no one knew which was supposed to be more authentic. In the end it appears that Ibn Mujahid just chose the 7 most popular to get some sort of concensus. But even then people were not able to agree and later added 2 'student's' Qur'ans for each of the original 7 different Arabic Qur'ans bringing the total to 21 different Arabic standard Qur'ans, and still people wanted to add MORE QUR'ANS so they added 3 more readers and 2 more students for each of these bringing the total number of STANDARD Arabic Qur'ans to THIRTY.
And that was a long time ago and before printing copyists were still making mistakes creating 6 or 7 different versions from the Hafs an Aasim version of the Qur'an alone.
The question is why do the Muslim leaders lie about these things so much? Are they really interested in truth at all?
What is your book pls
How could u did tht translations without learn arab properly?
There are different forms of Arabic spoken across Arabia even today. Different translations into Arabic are likely to still be different
Which means Islam is false
@Tonax Wrong, original Arabic Qurans. The perfect preservation breaks on every academic level. Just someone brainwashed or with complete ignorance of the subject would argue for that
@Tonax No original though. There's no original first ever written Qur'an. When you want to compare you need tgat original...to compare. Sadly that was lost ( or maybe burned 🤔)
@@DJ15EXY give me the original bible my guy you guys are drifting on scriptures frm here and there old and new testament contradict each other popes contradicting the bible
@@mowglidubois772 there is no original Quran. Period. There are 37 different Arabic Qurans.
I'm not a Christian, so don't mix things.
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Excellent work
I find that with all the examples you have provided, both meanings are valid and used in the Quran in other places, and the contextual meaning is not affected (ex: your last example between We forgive, and He forgives, both refer clearly to god, and the forgiveness of god is not quantifiable so it doesn’t make a difference)
And the scholars are in agreement on the validity of both readings, because both readings have been established from the prophet Peace be upon him.
Now everyone has to disregard any book and not believe in it, and not follow it.
That being said I disagree with the words you used, such as “drastically” to describe The change to the meaning, since this is literally the least change possible to the meaning of those words.
I ask god to guide me and you to the truth, peace.
That is all well and good BUT........there are differences and by its own admission, nothing....nothing has changed....Allah has protected it.......but it is different so is Allah not able to protect the Quran????? Actually we know that the Quran we have today is not the same as the original as an early Caliph gathered them all together to standardise them and we know that large sections are now missiong.....Allah did not protect that which he said he would......Apparently there is (not an original) an eaarly Quran in a British museum somewhere and it is different from that we have today.....SOOOOOOO,.,Food for thought.......Seek the TRUTH not just what you are told......or told to believe
“You claim that the evidentiary miracle is present and available, namely, the Koran. You say: ‘Whoever denies it, let him produce a similar one.’ Indeed, we shall produce a thousand similar, from the works of rhetoricians, eloquent speakers and valiant poets, which are more appropriately phrased and state the issues more succinctly. They convey the meaning better and their rhymed prose is in better meter. … By God what you say astonishes us! You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation. Then you say: ‘Produce something like it’?” ― Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi via facebook.com/DoctrineApologetics
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@@mals4400 both of the references are the same as the were so they haven't been changed. AbuBakr, prophet Muhammad's friend and the first calipha you referenced, compiled the pieces of the Quran into one written document. However, the recitation was always intact because they had plenty of people that memorized the whole quran in order and the writing was always intact because it was always written on things like bones, leaves, leather, etc. It just wasn't in 1 book. In addition, AbuBakr was the very first calipha who only was in charge for 2 years. This shows that no time was even available for a loss of information to even occur.
This guy is a fraud. The Qur'an hasn't changed at all. The translations are different from the SAME Arabic language.
Allah knows Best!
Well ... OK. You will see In Sha Allah May Allah Guide You To The Straight Path! Ameen
Islam Safari 🖕🖕🖕
Jesus is God you just show the truth christine in you word, you believe in hated, if you think islam is wrong then show us what is wrong and show us what christine is, the truth, don’t attack islam because you hate it
Muhammad Zulfikri a word from hater, because he don’t believe in islam, then he will condemn islam, congratulations you a the truth man with you own believe
What will you say about birmingham quran
For letters and words which have the same meaning you are denying the complete quran? Have you not forgotten other signs ?
Thank you for the video. I would find it helpful if I knew where and and how to order these qurans. Are there sources where I can order these two different qurans?
AcademyApologia hhhh for what did you think he is telling truth ? Nothing changed from the Quran but it is only the dialect of Arabic language is different but it is same meaning even the time of prophet Muhammad pbuh was like that and every Muslim know it but hearing from him is just made me laugh i swear to god
*GOOD ON YOU FOR EXPOSING THIS FALSE RELIGION*
Please send me your full video or interview in which you defend islam.
Can you pro ide this for us in text please
You and David should do a collab. Like the new name btw
Sam Solomon is a native Arab speaker! I think Sam Solomon ans Sam Shamoon can do a 3 hour duo on vile Islam!
@Tai Chi Tube here the answer is ruclips.net/video/PxSbGeW5Kko/видео.html
@@samnikole1643 here the answer is ruclips.net/video/PxSbGeW5Kko/видео.html
For them only muhammad hijab is enough broo 😎
ومن يضلل الله فماله من هاد
jazakallah
Jaz aka Allah khairan
oh that must be true, like all the rest in teh quran, haha
@Tickling the Ostriches he can protect it , so you are saying that jesus cant protect the churches that have been destroyed
@Tickling the Ostriches surely he can , it is like when he claimed that he will protect the quran forever , and surely he did, the quran still has its original words from 1400 years , and it wont change forever , i am not god to know about the kaaba
When allah says "We" who is he referring to?
Kings Warriors We (Allah), when you say i who you reffering to? that why you need to read from first verse to last verse and learning from islam scholars to understand islam, not from christian scholars!
Where you got the qurans from? I need to get them
@@sidprice6214 just let him...u afraid of losing another fellow muslim brother? Let him find his own path.
@@sidprice6214 i would say yes cuz he doesnt want u guys to burn in hell like ur muhammad
@@sidprice6214 islam is just a fiction😂 pls dont let it deceive u. Too many illogical rubbish in it
@@sidprice6214 1.muhammad sat on a unicorn and flew to see allah.
2. If ur god is almighty, then why cant he make us see him. What i mean is why would we explode if we see him, isnt he almighty
@@sidprice6214 and those who eats pork will become a pig or smtg😂😂😂 i ate and im still fine. Bro ur religion is just a made up one just to praise muhammad
If I sound like a robot I might be able to fool people. Beep Boop beep.
u literally make no sense u are calling christians wrong too because other languages might think english sounds like a robot stupid
and u just spelled it in english too so u just played ur self
When I read that comment I literally fell on the floor.🤣🤣🤣.
It's nice to see the Brothers teaming together. God bless you and your service for the Kingdom.
Great video.
Who taught you Arabic?
How did you learn Arabic so quickly?
@fayssal benhebba I'm sure Adam know more Arabic than you, you're just in denial to pacify your beliefs in a false religion. I invite you to my page to learn more about your false religion, false prophet and false god on facebook.com/DoctrineApologetics
Doctrine Apologetics wow, you just say that (i’m sure) that really funny😂, you make a dumb statement, with a full of hatred, everything in you channel don’t have a single proofs at all
@@hackersecMY nice grammar
Same way people learn English or Spanish.
You are conflating variations in the readings on the one hand with contradictions on the other. Your video implies that there are contradictions or that there are different meanings none of which you have been able to prove in your video.
ibrahim said how Jesus can be God because incarnation theory is idol worshippers' believe because when we ask idol worshippers to worship only one God they replies all these gods are incarnation of one God. So leave idol worship leave Christianity to believe in one God accept Islam. All prophets including Jesus on principles of Adam, Noah and Abraham alaimus salam. Noah prays to drown idols with its worshippers. Abraham in Ur in Mesopotamia breaks the idols and even got tired to live in place where idol worshipping exist so on order of God he moved to Canaan an empty place from where worshipping of lonely God spreads. Check which religion is on the principles of Adam, Noah, Abraham then follow it, you will find only Islam standing on it.
+Jesus is one of messenger of Allah Catholics are idol worshipers! Catholics are not bible believing obeying sect! They are pagans since 323AD ....
But if you did your homework you would know ignorant muslim!
Dear muslims, you do not undestand difference between style (of arabic styles) and change of context - different meanings = different Qurans. And for your information, there are far more than 7 Qurans: search in youtube for "THE 26 DIFFERENT ARABIC VERSIONS OF THE QUR'AN". So, 26 versions already discovered. You dear muslims live in a big denial. Also, please check video of Dr. Shehzad Saleem. This islamic schoolar did his doctorate for years on topic of preservation of Quran - he admits openly here there are different versions of Quran search in youtube: "Different Versions of Qur'an. Dr. Shehzad Saleem". Watch those videos - if you don't, that means you are really not into the truth, because you would not give yourself opportunity to think and consider arguments, rather you would live in ignorance you have probably learn from your parents and imams (classical muslim story). So, get yourself opportunity to get educated. God bless. (p.s. I haven't seen any point you refuted Ishmael, meaning you cannot refute any claim of him directly). God bless.
+WTL Channel - Way, Truth and the Life Muslims live under the lies... and they prefer blind ... they feel comfy when lied to another...so sad ...very far from truth they fight each other because no truth no trust... that's why Arab countries always fight each other no truth no trust they lied each other
Contradiction in quran
Here we examine two different accounts of the story of Zechariah and the announcement of the birth of John the Baptist in the Quran.
#1
My Lord! Appoint a token for me. (The angel) said: The token unto thee (shall be) that thou shalt not speak unto mankind THREE DAYS except by signs.
Surah 3:41 Pickthall
#2
A mention of the mercy of thy Lord unto His servant Zachariah. When he cried unto his Lord....Appoint for me some token. He said: Thy token is that thou, with no bodily defect, shalt not speak unto mankind THREE NIGHTS.
Surah 19:10 Pickthall
So tell us Muslim which one is it? Did he say 3 days or 3 nights? How is it you have learned to look for problems in the Bible but do not know about these in your Quran?
Also did he say "WITH NO BODILY DEFECT" as in #2 or did he not say it as in #1
You Did a Awesome job. I appreciate your videos !!! Much love my brother in Christ
Thank you
You should know the difference between the american and british spelling, is there any meaning error when you read any known text context using one of them, of course not because doesn't matter the style of writing while the meaning is confirmed and every one write the word as he sounds it out. I mean I could write the Quran even using english letters while keeping the same recitation and spelling. What is important is the listener who should listen the same recitation as like arabic recitation, thus same meaning. I tell you more than that, the two men who would read text context using the american and british spelling, they will reach you the message by the the same way if a third illiterate man who memorieses the same text by heart. Regarding the Quran, it is the same thing, me personnaly, I memorise the whole Quran by heart form my cheikh who memorized it from reliable connected chain of cheikhs "machayekh" over the centeries connected to Abdullah ibn Masood from the Prophet peace be upon him from gebrayel from the God Allah.
May Allah guide you to the straight way if you open your heart without arrogance
or racine pride or religion background or how the others would see you.
Allah says in the Quran:
" So whoever Allah wants to guide - He expands his breast to [contain] Islam; and whoever He wants to misguide - He makes his breast tight and constricted as though he were climbing into the sky. Thus does Allah place defilement upon those who do not believe". surah Al An’am 125 (QS 6: 125) english translation.
ah so was revelation sent in different accents? lol
Please convert to christianity because Jesus is the one true God almighty who came 2000 years ago to die for your sins on the cross .
@@elizabethbobby7981 I appreciate your invitation sister because I understand your viewpoint, however please try to understand my viewpoint as well with an open mind because I wish the good to you.
First, we the Muslims believe in Jesus peace and blessings upon him as a prophet and messenger not as a God.
For more info about Muslim's belief please look this short and clear video from Cheikh Carol (one message foundation).
ruclips.net/video/jT1c9JmETA4/видео.html
@@elizabethbobby7981 I am not gonna pray in front of the crucified Jesus Christ statue. What a disrespectful act to the prophet of God
@@elizabethbobby7981 GOD NEVER DIES GET BACK TO YOUR SENSES. GOD WAS FORVER THERE HE WAS OUT OF TIME. And lasting GOD HAS NO SON HE IS ALONE
There are 7 pronunciations of the Quran that are allowed you dong
It's like saying Quran is corrupted because some people say " Thalika kal kitabu la raba fee" and some people say "Zalika kal kitabu la raba fee" they both mean the same thing but they are pronounced differently. Notice who the quote on quote "corruptions" you found are only the difference in one or 2 words and the whole AYAT has the EXACT same meaning.
So you admit that there are 7 differet versions of the Quran in Arabic that has 7 different meanings ? ... still proof that there is not one perfect Quran in Arabic...
AGF fans No there is only one version of the Quran, the teachings and the words have the exact same meaning Nothing is different.
AGF fans the Words are the same. The pronouncing is diffrent. Stop being biased. It only proves us muslims more right.
Nope. Quran has 7 different version. Muhammad himself said so.
Narrated `Umar bin Al-Khattab:
I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said, "I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me." The Prophet (ﷺ) ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah s Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven different ways, so recite it in the way that is easier for you."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2419 In-book reference : Book 44, Hadith 9 Reference: Vol. 3, Book 41, Hadith 601
Nick John Nick John
nope.
the Quran was revealed in Kufa script and its available for any one to use (the koffic has no numbers or dots). you can find it nad read it your self. you will love the kufic language once you understand it 🙂
Muhammad pbuh read the quran with kufic script in 7 reading (for 7 parts of arbia) and taught them to 7 diffrent peopole and mentioned them in hadith. after the prophet died,
the points and numbers were added by each person the prophet muhammad pbuh taught to read each in diffrent books. and they exist today they are all the quran but diffrent reading taught by muhammad pbuh. they have exact same meaning. thankfully every single one of them taught by our prophet unlike the bible which is not written by jesus pbuh :)
Very Interesting video, thank you for this info.
my first job when i moved to london was working for plenum publishing who translated russian science journals into american english, i got made redundant after a couple of months cos they realised it made more sense to do the translating in the states, but, there were five of us in the department working 40 hours a week pasting in corrections to electronically typeset science journals, five, forty hours a week, computer typeset - corrections. don't tell me the quran is perfect.
Can you explain what you actually meant by the Quran is not perfect
@@ayram2220 He said that because the Quran failed the challenge of preservation.
First off, the narration of the 7 ahruf is contradicted by SAHIH AL-BUKHARI 4984 where it says that the Quran was revealed in the dialect of the Quraish.
"In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit (Al-Ansari) regarding any dialectic Arabic utterance of the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, for the Qur'an was revealed in this dialect." So they did.
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Apart from that contradiction, this proves that the EXACT words of prophet Muhammad or god are not in the Quran. What Muslims have nowadays is the result of 3 Quraish men who translated some parts from dialectal Arabic into the Quraish dialect. The Quran was not PERFECTLY preserved because Muhammad’s original wordage got lost.
Apart from this, Muhammad supposedly mentioned 7 ahruf, but nowadays there are 37 in Arabic claiming to be the original.
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THE QURANIC CHALLENGE
This is the challenge that you will find in some Quran translations, such as the one done by Mohsin Khan:
"(V.15:9) This Verse is a challenge to mankind and everyone is obliged to believe in the miracles of this Qur'ân. It is a clear fact that more than 1400 years have elapsed and NOT A SINGLE WORD OF THIS QUR'ÂN HAS BEEN CHANGED, although the disbelievers tried their utmost to change it in every way, but they failed miserably in their efforts. As it is mentioned in this holy Verse: "We will guard it." By Allah! He has guarded it. On the contrary, all the other holy Books [the Taurat (Torah), the Injeel (Gospel).] have been corrupted in the form of ADDITIONS or SUBTRACTIONS or ALTERATIONS in the original text."
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ADDITIONS or SUBTRACTIONS
In QURAN 57:24 in the Hafs version there is the word “huwa,” هُوَ but in the Warsh version there is not such a word. There in an OMISSION or an ADDITION inside the Quran. So, it’s absurd to force yourself into the lie: “It’s exactly the same except that it has different dialects,” when clearly the reality is different: The Quran has added or omitted words. Is the Quran PERFECTLY preserved? NO.
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NOT A SINGLE WORD OF THIS QUR'AN HAS BEEN CHANGED
In QURAN 1:4 the Hafs version reads “maalik” مَـٰلِكِ (which means “owner”), but in the Warsh version it says “malik“ مَلِكِ (which means “king”); the meaning in Classical Arabic changed because one has a dagger alif and the other does not have a dagger alif. Keep in mind that QURAN 1:4 is from that particular chapter that Muslims read daily in prayers, about 17 times a day.
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ALTERATIONS
In QURAN 2:10 the Hafs version reads “yakdhibūna” يَكْذِبُونَ (they lied), but the Warsh version reads “yukadhdhibūna” يُكَذِّبُونَ (they accused others of lying). So, are they doomed because they lied or are they doomed because of accusing others of lying? Nobody knows. Both have different messages. They have alterations.
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In QURAN 2:184 the Hafs version reads “mis'kīnin” مِسْكِينٍ (a poor person), but in the Warsh version it says “masākīna” مَسَٰكِينَ (poor people). Do you have to feed a poor person or poor people? One is certainly better on the wallet. This not only has a difference in meaning, but it also affects practice.
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In QURAN 3:146 the Hafs version is reads “qātala” قَـٰتَلَ (fought), but in the Warsh version it says “qutila” قُتِلَ (were killed). Did these prophets FIGHT or were they KILLED?
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In QURAN 7:57 the Hafs version reads “bush'ran” بُشْرًا (as glad tidings), but in the Warsh version it says “bushuran” بُشُرًۢا (to disperse). Does he send the winds AS GOOD TIDINGS or TO DISPERSE? Very different meanings.
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Thirty-seven different Arabic Qurans and many examples of their differences in the video.
LIVE SHOW: 37 DIFFERENT Arabic Qurans !
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RUclips VIDEO: SEVEN DIFFERENT ARABIC HAFS QURANS (HATUN TASH AND DANIEL)
A Muslim (Mansur Ahmed) from Speakers’ Corner challenged Hatun Tash: “What I will ask Hatun to do instead, and challenge her, is to provide 3 examples of differences Hafs readings anywhere in the world.”
Well, Hatun showed him 7 different Hafs versions.
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NOTE: Don’t mistake the words “harfs” with “Hafs.”
Harfs are the modes/styles of recitations in different dialects and Muhammad said there were 7 harfs (styles): Warsh reasing, Hafs reading, al-Bazi reading, etc. (but now there are 37 readings nowadays with different meanings). Currently, the Hafs reading is the most used by Muslims, but there are 7 different versions of that Hafs reading (with different meanings).
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RUclips VIDEO: HOLES IN THE NARRATIVE - YASIR QADHI INTERVIEW CLIP + MUSLIM REACTION
Preacher, theologian, and imam Yasir Qadhi admits that the Quran has holes in its narrative because of the qira’at and ahruf. Therefore, Muslims CANNOT say that it was only a little problem of dialects. Yasir Qadhi confesses that the problems are much more complex.
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Minute 0:35
When you do a deep dive is when things get very, very awkward and difficult. And this isn't new; this is from the time of the sahaba. The issue has caused confusion to somebody whom the prophet said, “If you want to listen to the quran directly, listen to Ubayy”. And he’s not some even an average sahabi, he is the master; and he goes like “What is all of this stuff?”
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The issue of ahruf and PRESERVATION and qira’at and relationships between them. These are very very difficult issues and THE MOST ADVANCED OF OUR SCHOLARS: THEY'RE NOT QUITE FULLY CERTAIN HOW TO SOLVE all of the unanswered questions in them.
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Traditional understandings cannot answer some of these pressing questions that are now being poked by our people outside and by our/their academics.
I don't know your name brother, but the Arabic language had no dots. Dots So "Nun", "Taa", "yaa" look the same, and some readers mixed them. Similarly, there was no diacritics ("Tashkeel"). Therefore, the claim that not a single letter has been altered holds. At its origin, removing the dots and the tashkeel, the script is uncorrupted.
this dude's good👍
thats even worse because then muslims made up the language of al-lah i can make ta into yaa and can change words and context entirely
@@BA-gg7uh This guy in the video is full of shit any way; he says the Quran is corrupted, then shows a video of himself getting baptized. Did he not know that The Bible has two different genealogies of Jesus, the main figure in Christianity? Or is he trying to deceive people?
Do u really blv that? How is your Arabic? I would like to discuss this issue verse by verse in Arabic with u. I have Hafs and Warsh mushafs with 155 huge theological textual variance and about 5000 less important variance? Can u please inform me when and where did the Qiraat story originate?
@@ragazarmani2019 there's a video of this guy getting baptized, which means that the guy has zero problem with the Bible clearly having two different genealogies of Jesus. I believe he's trying to mislead ignorant Muslims here for sure.
Alhumdulillah, he is indirect reveling fact that quran was revealed with different dialects for diffrent arab people, which sound different but means same.
We called it synonym in English.
And if you are student of Quran and recitation of Quran you will find there are 7 dialect for Quran.
man so he sent it in different dialects that was spoken by very few people but cannot even send one for indonesians for example? lol that makes sense
@@pelomocho8567 This comment shows your stupidity😂
How do these fools not understand there are different translations but the Arabic is the same?
@@pelomocho8567that would contradict God’s word “Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Quran that you might understand” (12:2). Even if Allah sent it down to indonesia in indonesian language, there are plenty of indonesian dialects that it would be sent down into: Javanese, Balinese, Sundanese, Minangkabau. meaning is still the same but the wordings are different. still indonesian language. but surprisingly, people from different country would come and say, “hey, look. God sent al-quran in indonesian language but look at this sundanese quran, it differs from minangkabau. if we look at this word in sundanese, it means differently in minangkabau. al-quran is not valid”. meanwhile, the indonesians are rofl at that guy’s ignorance.
For real😂 he is laughable
+Don’tConvert2Islam I was just wondering something. I don’t know if this is true or not but I’ve been hearing people say you deny the Trinity. I just wondering if you could confirm or deny this. Sorry to ask, but I wanted to ask you first before I spread false information.
I agree Sir. Nu-kaffir and Yu-kaffir are different words with different meanings, even if "We" and "He" mean Allah. You are right.
"noukaffir" and "youkaffir" have the same meaning for those who know little about the Arabic language, we use "no .." instead of "you ..." to show the greatness of the character who speaks, most of the verses of the Qur'an Allah says "Inna" ie "We" to speak of his majesty and does not use the pronoun "ana" which means "me". The Qur'an is plasmodiated in seven ways, which all existed at the time of the prophet and his companions, the institutes and universities throughout the Muslim world, in Russia also inculcate this science called "ILM AL-QUIRAAT" that is to say: "the science of the plasmodia ", some learn two or three, but the great masters master them all
@@aymeneaymene111 in hafs there is the word "huwa" but not in the Warsh version. This happens in a verse, so the Quran is nor perfectly preserved.
"Owner" and "king" are not the same, either.
@@electro639 King and Owner are the same. Isn't a king the owner and master of his dominion? THINK.
@@marquisarrington9379 Is “king” the same word as “owner”? Are they synonyms? No, they’re not. The meanings changed. Now, you might tell me that by resorting to an INTERPRETATION, you can reconcile both words: okay, but it’s a mere interpretation. Non-Muslims interpret it in a different way and the meanings are different for them.
Do you understand my point? Without choosing an interpretation in favour (Muslims) or against (non-Muslims) the Quran, the words are different in meaning. From a subjective point of you: both answers are possible; from an objective point of you, the words have different meanings.
From the Cambridge dictionary:
King: (the title of) a male ruler of a country, who holds this position because of his royal birth.
Owner: a person or organization that owns something.
Bless him he try’s so hard 😂😂
So all you could find as differences are the “dotting” of the words ? By no means is this a discovery of any sort. It is well known that the “dotting” of the words was done on a later stage. Original Quran was not dotted and therefore you could get variations in pronunciation and a very limited deviation in meanings, yet the message remains the same. You are trying to blow up things to prove yourself right while you are blind to the fact that studying the Quran for 16 years and coming up with this 9 minutes video to prove the Quran wrong only proves that you are blind to the consistency and to the message of the Quran.
Yeah he is only speaking about plural and singular forms he is not really proving anything. He is trying to make Islam look bad when it's only a belief in One Creator. He fails to realize Christian and Muslims took an ancient knowledge and enslaved the people. Pale skin and those who walk on ancient grounds of the pillars will meet a terrible fate. He is useless when Gabriel is at hand. Let's see if I am wrong.
You realise that dotting in Arabic is the same as writing!?
@@al-hassan9200 Christian first then Muslim or Muslim first then Christian? To submit to one Creator then these titles of your religion are useless. Fighting for nothing. Who is right or who is wrong lol it gets you nowhere. The Angel spirit and our Creator have the say. Time has come
There are 37 different Qurans nowadays. Ishmael proved that the Quran is not PERFECTLY preserved (not one letter has changed). Some versions add the word huwa; others don't. They have different meanings because of their different readings.
There is no original Uthmani Quran nowadays.
Admit it, cry-babies, the Quran changed and people don't know which of the 37 versions is the original one because the Uthmani Quran is lost.
The big claim is that “not a word of the Quran has been changed”
These variations in dotting make for different words (and the last example is clearly more that just dotting). This proves that the claim that not a word have been changed is false.
Furthermore, this video is just being as uncharitable to the Quran as muslims usually are against the Bible.
man just watched were you got "baptized" was entertaining lmao
No honey there were no points in the original Arabic like the Arabic we have now..as a matter of fact your video is more proof that the original Quran is still exactly the original Quran 😊
Also, if Qur'an is ETERNAL, why did Allah NOT SEND THE QUR'AN down to Moses instead of waiting until Muhammad? Why have prophets who do not claim their prophesies are eternal, like Ezekiel, Amos, Joel, Isiah, Jerimiah, and all the others including Yeshua!!??
abd soleiman So why does Muhammad call the Name of his good, "Allah", when it is proven that 1. Allah is the name of the Nabateean god Al Lah the moon god who's wife is Allat? 2. Moses asked God "By what name shall I call you(talking with God), so when I (go to rescue) the people in Egypt, they will know which God has sent me?" And God answered " Tell them 'I am that I am' sent you. "I am" translates as YHWH, and YHWH said "THIS WILL BE MY NAME FOR ALL TIME". Why didn't Muhammad KNOW what God's name was, if God was giving him Revelations?
abd soleiman And Qur'an CONTRADICTS the Torah and Gospel(Ingeel). Why is that? Why didn't your Allah send his Recitation/Revelation before Muhammad? If you are truthful, you will THINK about this. And why doesn't your Allah LOVE nonMuslims? Why doesn't Allah love the Jews and Christians who were given the Book BEFORE Muhammad? What does the BOOK GIVEN BEFORE MUHAMMAD SAY? Do you know? Have you read that book? Or, do you only listen to what your Imam says about that book, the Bible? Doesn't Qur'an say NO ONE CAN CORRUPT GODS WORD? So, if no one can corrupt it, why do Muslims say Bible has been corrupted? Please NOTE, Qur'an didn't say, "No one can corrupt Qur'an"!!! It says NO ONE CAN CORRUPT GODS WORD period.
Please watch the video of the link that I posted. If you are truthful, you will be brave and watch this whole video. There are Arabic language words in the video to help you understand.
May Yesua, my YESHUA of Nazareth bless you and your family. (Isa is not the Arabic WORD for Jesus, Yesua is.)
Muslims' response would be somewhere along the line of: allah sends different books or mesaages to different prophets at different places and times. But because people keep corrupting those books, allah then sends the ultimate incorruptible book/message to muhammad as the last prophet. How do we know the book is incorruptible? We know it because the book says so.
Something like that...
why?why?why?
you know the being you are messing with? the Almighty is the best planner the most knowledgeable
Can'tHandleTheTRUTH That word, "planner" is Makr in Arabic. A more truthful translation of Makr is "Deceiver". One of Allah's 99 names is "the best of Deceivers" Makr. NO WHERE IN QUR'AN does Allah call himself ALMIGHTY. That term is commonly found describing YHWH. Now, Allah may call himself All Mighty, but I don't recognise Allah calling himself MIGHTY ever. Have you even LISTENED to this video? The video PROVES Qur'an is not Eternal, is not sent down, is not unchanged. And there have been found 30 different Qur'an by Hatun Tash of Pfander Foundation. NOT diacritical marks as we find beginning in the late 800's, but consonantal differences like this video is showing. THIRTY different Qur'an, NOT translations, but in ARABIC! You have the wrong god Muslim.
Jay Smith did a video on this; they found 26 different Quran’s in total with similar discrepancies among all of them!
Kym Moore Jay Smith is a lier.
Umm Zaynul of course he is...
Umm Zaynul the fact that they displayed all 26 of them with Arabic speakers at speakers corner whilst clearly showing all of his research with copies from each Quran in Arabic with the English translations done by Arabic speakers...
Kym Moore 1 Qur'aan and 10 ways to recite.
Umm Zaynul 10?, according to Hadith only 7.
How ironic coming from a Christian lmao if you applied this level of analysis to the Bible you would find thousands of errors
As a Muslim, I am not worried about this man or even ISIS operatives. Because Allah SWT is in control of all affairs. I just pray this guy repents and sees the truth and submits to the One SWT before he dies. As compared to ISIS, at least this guy doesn't kill people in the name of our Deen.
They aim to extinguish God's light with their utterances: but God has willed to spread His light in all its fullness, however hateful this may be to all who deny the truth
Then how do you explain Lord the differences
All truth comes to the light eventually. Time to wake up brother. Pray for the forgiveness of sin. Get baptized in the name of Yeshua. U can't stand in front of God a blemished lamb. God won't weigh your sins. Die Clean my brother
2:46
well let's start smashing your claims by telling you
in arabic using We instead of I is a way of showing that you are superior like if you are a king same way no difference and god" Allah speaks about himself using WE not as if Allah is more than one but it is as he is talking in way to show that he is superior
same way when you speak french and instead of using Je you use Nous
and when you speak to someone in a respectful way you say Vous not Tu
better please learn arabic before you try to do claims based on nothing!!
adding to that Quran came in different readings as arabs had different accents of standard arabic same meaning different way of saying.
sweet you believe me you need to start studying before throwing claims out of nothing
in hafs Quraan Allah speaks about himself in both ways using "We and I" do not just put claims that in an accent of
quran it is all WE and another is All I
using we doesn't mean he is powerful in the thing and if he used I he is not powerful in it
based on that those were two different accents of Arabic back then all what you have just said is just fake claims
obviously you are just trying to satisfy yourself and your followers
Allah in all these different Accent Qurans is the same so just quit playing with people's minds claiming that we have two Allahs
4:47
another lie from you or let's say wrong understanding from you
just the Accent is different same meaning
the translation for both is " and for them a painful punishment because of what they disbelieved/denied" just stop making lies please!!
you would have got this if you were arabic but nah you can't!!
5:25
again the accent is the reason
The Quran can be called "Word of god Allah" and can be called "Words of God Allah"
same for the bible
either you look at it as a whole and call it word of god or look at it as holy words and call it words of god!!
come on man enough of this really
again 5:55
Accent is the factor of difference
still same meaning nothing is changed
but really clearly you have no clue how the language works true you can read it in a wonderful way but the understanding is not as perfect as a native arabic speaker!!
once again using We or I doesn't add or take any power from Allah or God
same god different way of saying the sentence coz of the factor of different Arabic Accents!!
7:59
now this verse is just out of it's place of you will just mention this word you have to go back and read the verse 23
then you will understand that god Allah is giving an example talking about the prophets he sent before
then he tells a story that often happens when ever god sends a prophet
so a prophet is referred to as he
now He said
and the order SAY
is just different as a matter of different accent
still the meaning is the same
god says "He said" and a prophet says what god Allah tells him to say the second one is God Allah is ordering Him to "SAY" just
now go back in history bring the old Quran of hafs you will find it the same as the present day hafs
go back in time to old Quran of Dori
you will find it the same as Present day Dori
The differences here are just accent differences nothing more the meaning is still the same!!
now i would love to say closing all what i wrote
Don't listen to this guy
better listen to yourself and search on your own
as he clearly has no clue what different Readings "Accents" of Quran are!!
he can't even understand the verses as he is not native he sees it different as he can't connect the words right!!!now ARabic grammar is the hardest and your translations were based on wrong grammatical understandings
Thank you brother!!
Bless you!!
let's hope they just understand and stop the hate comments!!
The problem is... sunny and shiah have their quran, africa, turks syria,..... which one the oldest ?? and awloh have their quran too.. in paradise. if there is contradiction so who is right ??? proof there is one ??? from who ???
I don't think dialect or accents make Quran can be different, if Quran just use one Arab language at the beginning.
You will find that different, if quran translate to other language.
I think where ever you are in england or africa or middle east you will read quran on arabic (saudi, medinah)
If you tell sunni was the right one, so africa must be false...
Because quran design with one language, no other language.. different with bible
Jacky Ngeong what on earth are you talking about? Africans use quran in Arabic... how on earth this is related to the idea of quran being true or false...
bro ismail, thanks..... y want translate to bahasa indonesia your video..if you agree.. because fery nice your explain..im waiting for you agree.. yesus loive you...
In Arabic we call this different riwayas!! And it's true that there are "seven" different riwayas that the prophet peace and blessings be upon him spoke.. Most if not all Muslims know about this!!! This doesnt change the fact that the quran is preserved!!! It is preserved in "seven" riwayas!
jazakallah
Yes there is 7 different version of Quran. Read here:
Narrated `Umar bin Al-Khattab:
I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said, "I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me." The Prophet (ﷺ) ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah s Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven different ways, so recite it in the way that is easier for you."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2419 In-book reference : Book 44, Hadith 9 Reference: Vol. 3, Book 41, Hadith 601
Read more here: www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/7tqz19/muhammad_says_there_are_seven_different_versions/
Dana Al-Aghbar so the claims that the arabic quran has only 1 version was a lie muslims believing for a long time
@@aleahmel23 it is already one version with different dialcets!
The meaning and letters still the same . It is just about how to pronounce.
Btw, As a native Arabic speaker , these symbols "التشكيل" ( ُ َ ِ ) that present above and below the letters are somehow similar to the vowels in English. Writing them as a letter or as a symbol doesn't change anything .
Don'tConvert2Islam+ Thanks for your video clip. Indirectly you help Islam for more spread in your community. You Judge Islam your way but community peoples may not agree with you. For you they get interest in Islam & many of them convert.
Thank you for refuting this hilarious claim by Islamic apologists. You are doing God's work (the true, Triune God, not His impersonator Allah).
أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم
May The Creator of this Mankind Protect us all.
read the Surah An Nas
for the complete transcript
salaam
Which creator? Is there more than one creator?
@@armourofgod6310 there’s only one Creator
@@mida-hg6jm Allah says he is the best of creator(S)
@@mida-hg6jm yes answer me is there many creator's?
Just the fact that they don't have the same verse numbering shows inconsistency of the books. If they are truly consistent and the same then there should be no different numbering.
Subhann Allah the second "difference" is exactly for people like you who doesn t know tajweed and poor christian belief that.
Your proof so poor that I comment any thing
😂 I and we. Really? Both refer to Allah SWT. We is referred to as royal speech.
@Lerory Jiggins What are you even saying? As Muslims we don't believe in Hinduism or Christianity and believe that god is the destroyed, creator and much more
 noura says:
February 8, 2018 at 8:39 pm
the text was without the nuqat ‘dots’ and tashkeel , the original word isn’t changed only the placement of dots. and even with that, both difference send the same msg. prophets died and other prophets fought, doesn’t negate the history. He or We also refers to 1 God, again nothing has changed. Say or He said, also doesnt change what message is being said. thats the powerful part. Now please show me a change that says something is unlawful and in another text it is lawful. or something that means the ‘opposite’.
thank you
You are absolutely wrong. The Quran has been released in 7 styles (Ahruf), to make other people easier to understand who have different dialects as It got spread. The Quran has not been changed, ever, and never will be. Quran in different dialects is valid, and does not make a book corrupt, unlike your bible.
There was no written Quran in the beginning. There were several individuals who had memorized the Quranic verses, and these people were from different regions and they had their different regional pronunciations and expressions. When some of them died without passing on their Quran, there was concern that the word of Allah would be lost. So it was written down, and there were several transcripts. They were matched and compiled into a final version, that was agreed upon. All the transcripts were destroyed. There were at least a couple of copies made, they are almost identical. These copies were sent out to different chiefs. Those differences would attributed as quirks of regional dialects. That is very briefly my understand of how the Quran came about.
What I do not like is the transcripts were destroyed. The transcripts were also the words of Allah written down. They were in fact the original words and should not be destroyed. That act raised my suspicions about the Quran that the words of Allah been edited.
thulomanchay
Tell us more about what you witnessed firsthand, lol
@Thog Ba
The verses can be oral if they are not written down, once they are written down they are text verses.
You are reading the English translation.
What does the verse mean in Arabic?
Clear book = invisible book? meaning oral book?
Clear book = Undisputed book?
Clearly this book, not that book.
Clear book = Easily understood book.
Not a complicated book.
You have to read, it in context of the chapter, refer to hadiths, cross check with writings of various Islamic scholars, and come to your conclusion.
Its sad that many prefer not to do that, and prefer to be spoon fed.
@Thog Ba
Firstly I did not accuse you of ignorance, it is how you read and perceive things.
The "clear book" is not a physical book.
The verses were revelations. They were memorized by the early first believers, and some have written it down.
They were disjointed and scattered, and there was fear that the verses may be lost as believers were being killed in wars.
That's why the verses were gathered and compiled into the Quran.
Just because your interpretation and my interpretation of the word "clear book" differs, it does not mean one of us is stupid, or a liar.
Turns out, the very thing you accuse me of is actually what you are blinded by.
@Thog Ba
I have already said books can be of different forms.
The first form was verbal, if it was a physical book then Allah would have also given revelations and verses to others beside the Prophet.
Please, what is different from what you believe is not a lie. If differences are lies, then I could say you are lying, just because you believe differently. I do not say such things.
I have given you my point, you have stated your belief.
Leave it at that.
Have a nice day.
Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian.
15:9
Heavenly poliburo sent that book to bedouins.
You'll be sent to hell in 2030 if you don't repent of your sins my friend. Accept Jesus as your Lord and saviour and you shall experience forever lasting, eternal life.
Open your heart, seek God and God will reveal himself to you
Who forced you to leave islam its all about money you take money for leaving islam its so clear and anyway nabeel quraishy died then david become alone and he try to find you for his new dirty scenario 🤣🤣Islam is the real truth and perfect religion for all mankind’s long live Islam
What you read is the song versions of the original text. In the original text, Uthman rasm, has no dots and diacritics. In that rasm, many letters are written exactly same. As an example, in rasm, the five distinct letters ـبـ ـتـ ـثـ ـنـ ـيـ are indistinguishable because all the dots are omitted. Rasm is also known as Arabic skeleton script, Thus, original text seems still same. Furthermore, these variant readings are allowed by prophet due to make the reading easy among many dialects for people
You're wrong. Muhammed allowed 7. After his death, 3 more appeared and Islam accepted it. Nowadays there are 37 different Arabic Qurans.
By the way, in sahih Bukhari it says that the Quran was revealed in the Quraish dialect, so it contradicts that it was in 7 ahruf.
@Zeyt Zecco: What the video proves is that the Quran is not perfectly preserved. The criticism is not that the different versions have coflicting teachings, but that they have different words with different meanings. What Muslims leaders do is to reconcile INTERPRETATIONS of two different words; they don’t say that the words are synonyms. Many people interpret it in a different way. Therefore, it’s not that religions are strong; the power of manipulation is strong and leaders can distort reality to what their religious members want their reality to be.
As an example:
For example: In QURAN 2:184 the Hafs version reads “mis'kīnin” مِسْكِينٍ (a poor person), but in the Warsh version it says “masākīna” مَسَٰكِينَ (poor people). Do you have to feed a poor person or poor people? One is certainly better on the wallet. This not only has a difference in meaning, but it also affects practice.
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For a non-Muslim, this is a clear contradiction. Muslim, on the other hand, will say: “Both are correct: feed 1 poor person or feed many.”
I insist, it’s not that Islam or Christianity is strong: their own members are thirsty of making their religion something true so they practise favouritism with the interpretations that save their religion. Of course, some Christians and Muslims wake up to reality and become irreligious or change faith.
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The failure in your explanation is that you present a different challenge: The Quranic teachings never change. I will show you what the challenge really is/was:
"(V.15:9) This Verse is a challenge to mankind and everyone is obliged to believe in the miracles of this Qur'ân. It is a clear fact that more than 1400 years have elapsed and NOT A SINGLE WORD OF THIS QUR'ÂN HAS BEEN CHANGED, although the disbelievers tried their utmost to change it in every way, but they failed miserably in their efforts. As it is mentioned in this holy Verse: "We will guard it." By Allah! He has guarded it. On the contrary, all the other holy Books [the Taurat (Torah), the Injeel (Gospel).] have been corrupted in the form of ADDITIONS or SUBTRACTIONS or ALTERATIONS in the original text."
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The challenge failed because there is an addition/omission and the meaning of the tashkils gave the messages new meanings. The solution for this was to hange the narrative of the challenge: The TEACHINGS are preserved.
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With regard to the 7 recitations, this number is not based on the Qur’aan and Hadiths(transmitted sayings of Prohpet ). Yes there are some hadiths about 7-ahruf(7-letters) which commonly say that Quran is revealed in 7-ahruf. The 7-ahruf is an issue and many opinions were derived in early stages of Islam. Some of the opinions can even be naturally contradictory. Islam follows logic. Thus we must built our understanding on strong evidences if proof is unavailable.
(as you said) since there are more than 7-recitations in history, assuming 7-ahruf = 7-recitation is contradictory because of that this opinion is weak and neglegted among early scholars of Islam (you can read scientific paper "Revelation of Qur'an in Seven Ahruf (Letters): A Critical Analysis").
What ever the ahruf is actually meant it is to make recitation and memorisation of the Quran easier for people among many arabian dialects.
Ubay ibn Ka'ab narrates that once the Prophet met angel Gabriel, and said, "O Gabriel! I have been sent to an illiterate nation. Among them are old and young men and women, and those who have never read any writing!" Gabriel answered him, "O Muhammad, the Qur’an has been revealed in seven ahruf"
There are many other narrations from Prophet which commonly state the 7-ahruf reduces the burden on people, among many dialects, to memorize and recite the Quran. Since the muslims recite the Quran during their regular pray times they must memorize it. Since the common people, even the prophet, is illiterate memorization and reciation of the Quran among many dialects becomed an issue soon. For example same objects are referred by different wordings in different tribes. Their prononciations are also different for the same word. In order to handle such difficulties Prophet allowed 7-types of alterations in the original reciation as long as the meaning is preserved or expanded.
The strong opinion about the 7-ahruf refer to seven different ways that the verse can be altered. This was the opinion of Ibn Qutaybah (d. 276 A.H.), al-Baaqillaani (d. 403 A.H.), Makkee ibn Abee Taahb (d. 437 A.H.), arRaazee (d. 606 A.H.), Ibn al-Jazaree (d.832 A.H.), and others. So there are 7 categories(styles) , some are shown below.
1: changing in wording: allowing alternative wordings that has the same meaning, not creating a matter of contradiction and opposition. as Ibn Mas’ood said: “It is like one of you saying halumma, aqbil or ta’aal (all different ways of saying ‘Come here’).”
2: Differences in wordings or letters such that they conform to the vowelless, dotless script of Uthmaan (Uthmaan Rasm).
3: Differences in pronunciation.
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CONCLUSION
The stardart text of the Quran is written by Prophet, later delivered to Caliph Ebu-Bakr and Uthmaan. This is the original writing and still kept in Hafs Qiraat today. 7-ahruf is a concession and permission to alter some verses of the Quran in very minor amount such that the meaning is preserved or expanded in order to reduce the burden to memorize and recite the Quran, particularly in early stages of Islam. In early stages of Islam, such permission created various reciations but later as the arabic language is developped, the mainstream reciation gradually surpassed the others. So the original Quran is still preserved but reciations still can be freely selected among some.
The mainstream reciation was Quraysi dialect from the beginning, which is still preserved as mainstream reciation of Hafs Qiraat today. Hafs recitation is same as once it is recited around Kaba in Macca (or Bacca). %95 of the muslims in the world follow Hafs reading. Between Hafs and Warh only letter based differences (due to category 2 above) exist except one word addition (due to category 1 above) in verse (57:24) as follows:
The exceptional extra word (57:24) consists of two letters(huve) means “He”. Without this extra word, the verse contains “…surely Allah is rich, praised”. With the extra word “He”, the verse contains “…surely Allah; He is rich, praised”. This has no problem because Prophet allowed various reciations that does not affect meaning or affect in expressive way to make it easy accross many dialects.
@@zeytzecco3968 Thank you for the extensive reply.
• You say: “The stardart text of the Quran is written by Prophet, later delivered to Caliph Ebu-Bakr and Uthmaan. This is the original writing and still kept in Hafs Qiraat today.”
Nobody knows about this. Nowadays there are 7 Hafs variations.
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@@zeytzecco3968 By the way, I remember that scholar Abu Bakr Ibn Mujahid, who established and delineated the ten qira’at, was born in 245 H (859 CE). So, like in any other religion that I know, Islam and the correct recitations of the Quran are a matter of faith.
The first one to me the massage is still the same and it's still the same word but said differently but still same massage whether it's "he" or "we" it's still referring to allah so what's the big deal?
The second one it's still talks about lying despite the changes in The word "yaktheboon"or "yukatheboon" is still is about lying so what is the big deal? massage got "they lied"
Third one Kalima or kalimat the massage I got is about gods word so "kalima" or "kalimat" doesn't matter...
Forth one the same story just change in constants but the word has the same meaning still means "yo'fa"or "ya'fu" still means to forgive
I don't need to repeat myself again "qul" vs "qal"...I will admit his does have a point there but still it's still about someone "saying"
What's the big deal
Oh and haters you say what you want but You're not going to convince me of anything and no amount of swearing and insulting will either and vice versa with me ...so if that's what you'll do I suggest you don't bother but if your sharing your point of few go ahead...
abdurrahman shoukry
BROTHER I couldn't have SAID it any better, thank you thank you thank you.
Mghita they are still same but the dialect is only different Alhamdulilah like those videos still made me strong Muslim
abdurrahman shoukry Maasha Allah my bro Jasakalaahu Khayr
MISSING THE POINT nothing should have changed
See this
Clear your doubts
Different recitations of quran
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Amiture mistake my friend. These aren’t 2 different versions of the Quran per say. These are two different readings of the Quran. Since the prophets time it was widely known that there was I think 10 different accepted readings. It made it easier to pronounce certain words for the different dialects of Arabic speakers.
So gen qus what do u say of the differences between them?
Is the Sourates [Chapters] order different in the pseudo variants? No. *The Qur'an has the same exact chapter order from Indonesia to South Africa* .
Is the verse order different in the so-called variants? No. Anyone can check it out.
You should hold classes. Thankyou for enlighting. I wonder why the rest of muslims do not say this?
Simply because not everyone lies like him :)
😂😂😂 everyone knows the 7 recitations
Not when this video was put out! Only over the last year it has been exposed by many like jay Smith, hatun, and your own Sheikh Dr Yasir Qahdi. I remember when Muslims use to say "every dot and letter is the same anywhere in world" 🤣😅🤣 oh how times have changed 🤣😂🤣
You are excellent in explanation wording clear and understandable in Arabic and English languages and most of all you have an excellent ability in understanding things in details and accurate specially the Quran in Arabic language, I admire you and respect.
The guy doesnt even know arabic lol
@@ayoubnn1811 😂😂😂😂😂 ola is fake.
@@ayoubnn1811 There are 37 different Qurans nowadays. Ishmael proved that the Quran is not PERFECTLY preserved (not one letter has changed). Some versions add the word huwa; others don't. They have different meanings because of their different readings.
There is no original Uthmani Quran nowadays.
Admit it, cry-babies, the Quran changed and people don't know which of the 37 versions is the original one because the Uthmani Quran is lost.
Interesting to see these variations. but I think the most damning evidence against the mainstream Muslim claim of the perfection of their book is that scientific studies regarding al koraan are clear that it comes from judaioChristian origins, and that it contains many Syro-Aramaic texts. The studies have been done. It is not a matter if mainstream Muslim account is not true, but it is a matter of where it originated and how did Muslim Culture change so radically over the course of its history.
In this video you mention its 2 readings, in a more recent video you mentioned it as 2 different versions of Qurans. Which is false, their is only one version of the Quran, different readings don't change the meaning. A 5 year old kid can see though your lies.
Have been waiting for your new video, thank you for posting it. God bless.
The Muslims in the comment section have something in commmon: no interaction with the arguments presented. Snide remarks, bad grammar and mockery is all I have seen.
animal might undsrstand but blocked one can never do it..
Nicolas Reyes I am not even interested in listening to ignorant people, better seek knowledge from true scholars not self claimed knowledgeable people. And I request you to go through all the comments without partiality, you will also find a few non- Muslims using abusive language to such an extent that a reader will be ashamed of reading it.
If you find any grammatical mistake in my comment don't hesitate to inform me.
+Yannik A Let them expose their satanic religion with their comments!
Yannik A . The verse you quoted from Holy Quran is the verdict on those hypocritical confessors of faith who belong to a belligerent, non-Muslim nation and actually participate in acts of hostility against the Islam.
Narrated Ibn `Umar:
During some of the battles of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) a woman was found killed, so Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) forbade the killing of women and children.
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3015In-book reference : Book 56, Hadith 224USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 52, Hadith 258
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: "Do not wish to meet the enemy, but when you meet face) the enemy, be patient."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3026In-book reference : Book 56, Hadith 234USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 52, Hadith 266
Narrated Abu Burda:
That his father said, "The Prophet (ﷺ) sent Mu`adh and Abu Musa to Yemen telling them. 'Treat the people with ease and don't be hard on them; give them glad tidings and don't fill them with aversion; and love each other, and don't differ."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3038In-book reference : Book 56, Hadith 244USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 52, Hadith 275
Narrated Abu Musa:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Free the captives, feed the hungry and pay a visit to the sick."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3046In-book reference : Book 56, Hadith 252USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 52, Hadith 282
Narrated `Amr bin Maimun:
`Umar (after he was stabbed), instructed (his would-be-successor) saying, "I urge him (i.e. the new Caliph) to take care of those non-Muslims who are under the protection of Allah and His Apostle in that he should observe the convention agreed upon with them, and fight on their behalf (to secure their safety) and he should not over-tax them beyond their capability."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3052In-book reference : Book 56, Hadith 258USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 52, Hadith 287
Your life and the lives of millions of non-Muslims across the world is itself proving that your belief isn't true... Reflect upon it. Don't be arrogant for the sake of God you worship plz...
Sam Nikole Don't be so eager to pass judgement.
And only the God who created you and me is supposed to pass judgement not anyone else, Neither you nor me. So let's seek guidance from God very humbly rather than fighting with each other and wait until the day of resurrection.
And don't be partial, even non- Muslims are passing abusive comments, fear God. every soul will be rewarded for good deeds and be punished for bad deeds, even Muslims for sure. Because of some black sheeps you can't blame everyone, rather than knowing truth.
This is the difference between Qir'at, (Tadjweet); This video explains it really well:
ruclips.net/video/qEKCT2JLVYE/видео.html
Also this person has really good pronounciation of the arabic language! So I hope this video helps him out!
@Jeremiah Abraham WHEN GOD SAYS WE,,,ITS A MAJESTIC PLURAL. OTHERWISE GOD HAS BEEN REPEATING HE IS ONLY ONE THROUGH ALL HIS BOOKS. AND HIS COMMANDMENTS.
The video you posted (at 3:29) proves that quran from different version are not the same
Have been killed" and "have fought" is not same meaning
Thats more than just difference between dialects. For example if you change something from american english to British english, you don't change the meaning. You only change the spelling and pronunciations to fit the other dialects but you don't change the meaning
However, these two verse from different have two different meaning. It is not same thing
It is one quran with 7 ahraf /qiraat you are correct 👍
1.There are more than 24 variation much more than 7.
2. It more than differences in pronunciation, there are different words and meaning and yes it contradict.
@@killermoon635 you don't understand one of the very interesting thing(to me) of the quran, that is even in Arabic a word has different meaning, interesting this differences not only perfectly fits with the sentences but also all true.
The words you asked for have certainly different meaning but both are correct & both are being said there.
That Likes:Dislikes ratio tho 😂😂😂😝
What are the meanings of these comparisons?
Colour/Color
Recognize/Recognise
Travelled/Traveled
Anita Rosie Ross best comment. No one replied and we all know what that means 😂😂😂
Good.
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American spelling and British spelling they all have the exact same meanings
Anita Rosie Ross u slayed it girl 😅
thanks bro to help us spread islam .the more the hate the more people do theirs research and find out their lies and convert to islam thank you for your good work to help us.
amadou camara you're funny ... Knowledge is the worst enemy of Islam... Muhammad (according to the Muslim sources) he killed raped has sexual problems as a pedophile a thief ... what else ?
Who wants to have such a person as an idol?
Only criminals
the opposite is happening. I'm a practicing muslim but videos like this are making me consider leaving Islam
@@kosarad if you consider leaving islam then you have already left.
@@akrlafoleak5168 Going deeper into Islam makes you leave it. 80% of Muslims never read most of the Qur'an
@@sumnik852 What is in the qur'an that makes muslims leave it if they read it? and what are you? christian atheist or what?
Just take Warsh and the Hafs, Maalik vesus Malik (ملك / مالك يوم الدين) - with or without Alif which one is the correct version protected by allah ? or ask a moslem, what sharru al-bari2a (the worst of the free/innocent) really means ^^
the different were there to make it easier for different accents to read not different meaning
يكفر،نكفر is the same bruh they have same meaning my father IS arabic teacher
Can you do video about bibles what kind of difference are between books of bible?
With that video you would get the protestants, but not the catholics.
The 37 Qurans have words with different meanings (not dialects with same meanings). The Qurans have omissions/additions of words.
Years ago, the challenge was that not a single word was changed, no omissions, no additions, no alterations.
The Quran failed the challenge of perfect preservation, so now the changed the challenge: the teachings are preserved. PATHETIC.
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By the way, the 7 ahruf nowadays were fabricated 250 after Muhammad's death. The scholar who made it all up was Abu Balr ibn Mujahid.
You have artificial Qurans.
great information..
Textual Variants in the Bible does not mean corruption as Muslims claim. Christians acknowledge textual variants and it doesn't change the message or meaning.
Muslims claim there are no textual variants in the Quran and it has not been changed etc. Except there are different Qurans and textual variants, a claim Mulims don't acknowledge. That's what this guy is demonstrating and you must understand. Yet you don't
Firstly the Qur'an isn't a "text" it is a recitation it was sent as a verbal medium (as the prophet was illiterate and spoke the revelation to his followers) it was written later.
2nd Bearing this in mind consider this thought experiment, if a new text were presented in English language and you asked an Australian a American an Indian an English man Scotsman and an Irish man to put this vocalisation into written form would you expect some differences in spelling? In fact you would find even more discrepancies and ones that change meaning too (e.g. "pants" meaning underwear in England and trousers/ jeans elsewhere or thong meaning ladies underwear or sandals in Australia!) Not to mention things like colour/color..
And indeed this subtle differences in recitation style that do not change meaning are recognised in all Islamic schools of thought (called qirat and ahurf). It's not something we ignore but rather something recognised, Christan apologetics have not made a glaringly obvious discovery in the last few years, thats ridiculous.
3rdly if you truly would like to understand the Quran and why so many believe it to be the untouched word of God, it would be logical to ask a Muslim.
Thought experiment again if you wanted to learn about chemistry you would go to a chemistry teacher not a biology teacher wouldn't you?
So go to a Muslim not Christan apologetics to learn if you are sincere in your pursuit of knowledge simple logic my friend.
May God guide us all.
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@@azimash you are WRONG about the quran being a recitation. Although, the difinition of the quran is a recitation, in reality, that is not the case.
The quran has been bastardized to death and is corrupted beyond all imagination. The ironic thing is that quran destroys itself by its own criteria and standard it sets for itself.
“Not one letter of the Quran has been changed over the centuries”
@@SundayVenom The corrupted quran :
sura 37:12
hafs quran : But you (mahamed) wonder, while they mock - ajebta
khalaf quran : But I (allah) wonder, while they mock - ajebto
The changed and CORRUPTED quran dilemma = allah(peace be upon HER) is 100% FALSE :
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with, her) reported that it had been revealed in the Holy Qur'an that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated (and substituted) by five sucklings and Allah's Apostle died and it was before that time (found) in the Holy Qur'an (and recited by the Muslims).
sahih muslim 1452a, book 17, hadith 30
Show me in the quran the verse of the 5 sucklings
The missing ‘ahmad’ quran changed and corrupted dilemma :
And ˹remember˺ when Jesus, son of Mary, said, “O children of Israel! I am truly Allah’s messenger to you, confirming the Torah which came before me, and giving good news of a messenger after me whose name will be Aḥmad.” Yet when the Prophet came to them with clear proofs, they said, “This is pure magic.”
sura 61:6
Show me in the sana’ manuscript ‘ahmad’ in the same verse?
thank you for sharing this crucial point. I meet so many Muslims who have been lied to about this issue. It is a real joy to see people who know what they are talking about speaking up on the issue.
The Bible has a contradiction every other sentence while Quran does not even have one
Lied to?😂 I think u should read ur Bible and then tell me who’s being lied to.
there are atleast 37 different qurans in arabic.
Sahih al-Bukhari 4987 says:
Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to `Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were Waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur'an, so he said to `Uthman, "O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Qur'an) as Jews and the Christians did before." So `Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to `Uthman. `Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, `Abdullah bin AzZubair, Sa`id bin Al-As and `AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. `Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, `Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. `Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt.
There is 1 Quran, and 68 bibles, 72 if you're catholic. Islam is the truth.
@@JohnSmith-vl1jj there are atleast 37 different qurans in arabic. Islam is just as fake as other religious stupidities
Hey maybe you do a video explaining why they are over 3000 versions of the bible?? 450 version just in english alone.
Because as the languages progressive and modernize, the text must be translated to make it easier to understand for newer generations. If you wanna fact check how accurate the translations are, refer to Papyrus 46, 52, and 66
@@royaltyillia1356 but it has contradictions not just progression of language as for modernisation that's shouldn't be the case if it indeed is the word of God.
@@Enlighten1421 I have ran through over 123, “contradictions” and I found none. Show me one, and let’s see if I haven’t seen it before
Congratulations u found some minor translation and accent differences. Your beloved bible has been changed for over 50 000 times yes fifty thousand times
Hypocrazy at its peak ...Just book a flight to turkey .they have the oldest Quran in museam and also oldest manuscript is discovered ...Please show us differences in them with present Quran
No need to book a flight there are scholars on RUclips who have all ready done this!
ruclips.net/video/IMa5tqfdNzw/видео.html