Cleghorn Trail (2N47) Review Part I - All Offshoots & Difficult Sections
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- This is the complete trail review and guide for the Cleghorn Jeep Trail (2N47) and all of the difficult offshoots and side-trails. We take you through every difficult spot, every rut, and every turn on the trail starting from Interstate 15 all the way out to the end of the trail at Highway 138 across from Silverwood Lake. If you have never done the Cleghorn off-road Jeep trail this video will show you what you have to look forward to and shows you where to turn or not to turn to keep out of (or get into) the rough/difficult areas.
For a review of just the fire-road, with none of the hard sections, see this video:
• Cleghorn Fire Road Tra...
You can download a FREE GPS (.gpx) track file of Cleghorn Trail at The NotARubicon website, here:
www.notarubico...
Part I of this video goes from the beginning of the trail at Interstate 15, traveling eastward to the end of "The Chute", roughly half-way through the trail.
Part 2 Starts at the "punch bowl" (just after The Chute) and goes to the end of the trail on Highway 138 at Silverwood Lake.
You can download a FREE GPS (.gpx) track file of Cleghorn Trail at The NotARubicon website, here:
www.notarubicon.com/cleghorn-offroad-trail-review-and-information/
As a newbie, I greatly appreciate you guys that make these types of videos!!
Great tour of cleghorn. Didn't think I'd finish a 30 min youtube video, but I believe I just set a new personal attention span record, and still left hanging waiting for Part II. Part II is where the trail seems to always detail my hard top.
Little updated info on this trail. I just ran this trail and off shoots yesterday in my Power Wagon with 35s, 7/11/20. Coming from the 15, after the 3N22 split, there are two “obstacles” on the main trail which are very washed out ruts. The first required some decent approach angles and ground clearance but was no problem in 4HI. The second put my front driver wheel and rear passenger wheel off the ground. I locked my rear and pushed through it. On my passenger side, was a rut about 3 1/2 to 4 feet deep with a flat face out. A few trucks behind me decided that obstacle was not for them and had to reverse down to a turn out. Again this was on the main trail with no bypass. Still very doable but I would not go alone and I would bring a spotter. Just an update coming out of this last rainy season.
Hi there. I drove Cleghorn this past Sunday and I had previously watched part 1 & part 2 of your Cleghorn reviews and it was a great help to have the prior knowledge of the features. I started from the 15 side, and completed all, but one of the features and also took a right at the punch bowl. I have open differentials, and 31" tires with a 3 1/2" lift on a 1998 XJ. All very doable features, but it's all about choosing the right line, plus stacking rocks here and there also helps. I will say that the Cleghorn trail needs to be respected as there are features where you can roll your vehicle if you're not careful. If possible, don't do it alone, but at the same time, the trail is very busy on weekends and you won't be alone.
Hey I'm heading up there this weekend this video made it easy to see for a first timer can't wait to get out there
Just purchased a new Rubicon. Think I will stay on the fire road until after first payment is made 😂
25 years ago I did all of Cleghorn Trail in my '90 F150 standard cab 2wd with 33" BFG M/T's and an Auburn limited slip all on a Rancho 3" lift. I did get stuck after going over the crest, on the way down my left front slid into a rut and stopped on a bowling ball size rock. I had to flag down a Jeep group that was slow putting up the fire road bypasses to pull down on my rear bumper that was 6 feet in the air. That tater-tawtered the front tire over the rock, and I finished the trail. One of the Jeepers was kind enough to take pictures and sent me the negatives in the mail.
The trail has been washed out and rutted to the point where my old truck wouldn't make it very far these days. I'm blown away at much more difficult the trail has become.
One of my favorite trails in CA. A nice day offroading is Cleghorn first and then running Pilot Rock trail after which starts right after the end of this trail. If that's not enough challenge Dishpan Springs starts right at the end of Pilot Rock or if you want more easy/moderate run Willow Creek after too.
I was there 2 days ago. I wish I would have seen this video before I left. The road was littered with jagged rocks that had obviously fallen, and too narrow for a vehicle coming down to pass. The steep slope to my right and the thought of a vehicle coming down spooked me and I took my first opportunity to turn around.
great review of the trail! one of my favorite trails close to home. the fire road can sometimes be hard when after a hard storm or snow. never go alone, always good to go with a group of rigs to help each other out.
Something about watching these videos gets me hyped to build up my Cherokee def. will be doing this trail in the near future.
Thank you so much for the review! Planning on heading out to cleghorn this weekend maybe. Feeling much more confident on running this trail now in stock TRD OFF ROAD 4x4 Tacoma
Wow, what a big help this video really is. I can't believe someone hasn't done this before. I'm looking forward to taking my F-150 up there this summer. Thank you for doing this. I really appreciate it!
Excellent documentary. My wife and I live real close to Cleghorn, hopefully we can return soon.
Randy, out of all the great videos that you've done, this may be my favorite. When I saw how long it was I wasn't sure I'd make it through, but I never came close to losing interest. Great information, excellent "play by play", and just a very helpful video overall. Looking forward to making it out on a run with you guys.
Glad I saw this video before hand! definitely keep posting up more trail videos!
I did most of the off shoots in my tacoma in 2wd with my rear lockers on. N its fun as hell when its pouring rain:)
Did you have any moments when you thought you were going to get stuck? I have a 2019 TRD sport 3” lift, getting fox suspension, and ARB locker next month.
I have a friend who is new to this so excellent timing on your video. Now to pick a day.
I went here today for the first time, went up alone to the electrical tower,then grouped up with some nice fellas I met, get people great trails, great times
My mom taught me how to drive on this road, I miss California.
We totally studied your Cleghorn videos before our run. Thanks to you, there was no guess work and just had lots of fun! Thank you!!
Glad it helped! Now study our John Bull guide and give that trail a try!!
Do Miller Jeep Trail someday.
Fun fact. Ive done this trail, in a near bone stock, open diffed WJ, its, quite an experience, i did the chute and all, didnt get through some but i did a lot. I was a dumb kid but i got out of it alive, and i learned.
I wish I had watched this video beforehand, ended up going up the "3 wheel hill" with a 2wd No rear Diff locker and nearly tipped over 2 times and got stuck since I took the left and not the right of it and ended up smack dab on a mound of dirt. Good tips in the video though!
NotaRubicon Productions - Thank You for compiling this video series. I'm inspired to take my M932A2 (aka M939, 5ton 6x6) across this trail in the next few weeks. Probably shoot for a weekday to limit traffic - 5tons are pretty wide.
Isn’t the M939A2 a Vietnam-Gulf War Era Cargo/troop transport truck? Big as shit?
Thanks for the video we are heading out there tomorrow on our Rhino
thanks to this video I was able to ride this great trail on a motorcycle and venture to do it, thanks great video with all the necessary information
Just took my 91 F150 4x4 on 33s today. I will say do NOT take a car through. The fire road is not in good shape. Fun stuff though, very helpful video
Going this Saturday with my 2014 Silverado 2WD V6. Wish me luck :D
How did it go?
Nice trail report. Looking forward to watching the rest (part 2).
I did "the chute" up and down in my stockish XJ on 28" tires and prefer climbing it. It's hard to get traction with open diffs, but it's easier to keep the body off of the walls. If your tires stick out they'll help keep you from scraping, my little donuts don't. Going up I was able to use the front tires to help pull it away from the wall.
Just ran this today backwards from silverwood. I've got a stock TRD off road prerunner with duratracs, hit most of the offshoots just have to pick a good line and lock up my rear.
Excellent guide to the trail. Thank you for sharing the tips with all of us. Scott
Thanks for the detailed guide of the trail. It helped me a lot as I am new to the trail. FYI, I drove through the trail last week(June 2019) and i felt it was little bit more rocky and rugged than how it appears to be on the video. I think the frequent rain earlier this year may have made trail more rockier. However, I was able to pass through it (mostly remained on the fire rd) with bare stock 4runner. It was a fun drive! :)
4runner squad!
Awesome job. Love how you did this video!
Great upload! On to part 2!
Been through Cleghorn many times in my F 350 crewcab long bed in snow,wet,dry 4inch lift on 315s its so fickn heavy 9600pounds tool.box full rack so wide it goes over all of it (lol) fun.slow and steady No problem 4x4 on!!!
Cleghorn Fire Road, named for Matthew Cleghorn who felled timber here in the 1870's.
Imagine if you can this region covered with tall timber that was used in the building of railroad trestles crossing Cajon Pass!
That's an awesome bit of history! I'm going to Google it.
Got an $800.00 XC70 through there no problem. Only able to take a couple off shoots, but we made it and had a swell time!
Cory Freberg awesome. I was wondering if could take my BMW X3 up there
"Despite what people tell you Cleghorn is not a fire road. Well technically it is a fire road" lol sorry man I had a chuckle at that.
Noo.. "not JUST a fire-road".. it IS a fire road, but not JUST a fire-road as so many say.. Much more to it!
Great video!
Thanks man ! I've driven past there so many times and wondered about it !
this is awesome thank you
great video thank you for the tour!
You: this is a relatively well taken care of dirt road.
You: 4:50 getting the crap rocked out of you
Just copleted this trail in a 2004 2wd ford f150 3in leveling kit with a rear locker and 33s no problems
Did you stay on the fire road? Or did you take some of the off shoots?
Absolutely love this review ! Thank you
Great video. I'm a Newb would love to make this trip .
This is good content👍
Awesome video , very well done.
I think the fire lane is always on the right side as I remember. Stay on the right side lanes. Just be aware that your Vehicle will get scratch with side branches..
thank you, very informative, plesse do more trails if yiu get a chgance like Goldman
My friend keeps telling me to go with him. But I think my rig is too massive for that trail. 94 f350 long bed, crew cab on 46in tires. I'll stick with mudding for now lol
There was a F350 last week, hauling ass!
Just went to Cleghorn it’s extremely rutted out right now. A street car cannot make this trail.
New/Updated video here: ruclips.net/video/MxbokuZ5dMo/видео.html
super helpful video man 👍🏻
Thank you for great video!!
Thanks!
Thank YOU!
Thinking about trying this with my Nissan frontier stock 4x4 tomorrow, I think I can clear most of the off-roads but some I don't think I'll have enough clearance, hopefully I don't go on the wrong ones
First time doing off-roading I’ll stay on the fire road lol
Thank you so much for sharing this video ! Please do some more of this type of video ! A+++!
Would you recommend this trail for an Q7 TDI ?
Not familiar with the capabilities of a Q7 TDI - but if you stick to the fire road, any truck can do it - dont got alone!
@@TheNotaRubicon thank you !
Great video sir!
At 15:24 it’s not just a dead end that’s what people come to cleghorn for other than the offroading..... at the top of that hill they have 2 pathways through the bushes that leads to a big rock that people sit on and look at the view and eat and relax
Super helpful vid. Thanks
Great review
thanks for the video man!
13:30 “three hhhwwweeeel hill”
GREAT REVIEW!!!
Nice video!
Hey guy's Great video appreciate the tip's and commentary , do you know if sxs can make the Chut?
Excellent video! Do you have any other step-by-step vid? If not, i'd like to request that maybe you create a scenic trail like mojave or somewhere at big bear. Let me know if you might already have them. Thanks.
All of our review/overview videos are in this playlist:
ruclips.net/p/PLku2B9MS_IISkphp5O8O33DIpXeq_SUqb
We are planning to do a full trail review of Gold Mountain in Big Bear in a few weeks.
Dumb question, a 2wd SUV can make it if it stayed on the fire road?
yes, 2WD SUV should have no problem staying on the fire road as long as it's not muddy or snowy.
Well explained ty
Wow at 12:50 the offshoot that goes to the right doesn’t have the second part even dig out yet. Someone must have just made it when I went there then
So if we stay on the fire road I'll be good with a GMC Sierra 4x4 & Audi Q5 AWD? I don't wanna try no shoots. Just wanna take the family out. We have 8" clearance.
Yea most 4x4 /AWD vehicles will be just fine if you stay on the fire route. I don't air down on it.
Would this be ok for my 2wd Tacoma sport? Im a noob. Ive only tried holy jim trail. And my son loved it.
If you stayed on the fire-road your Tacoma would probably be fine (although someone just commented here that they struggled in a 2WD truck on the fire-road) .. You would NOT make up/through/over 99% of the off-shoots..
NotaRubicon Productions Thank you for the reply. Im gona give this one a try. The views look amazing. I should have gotten a 4x4.
There’s an entrance to a trail in the beginning of the entrance of the trail that goes to the right. Do you know the name of that and if it’s friendly to my stock Sahara 😬
That is a power-line access road.. we've never driven down it, but because the Edison trucks have to be able to get to all of those power lines, it cant be too tough.
Sofia Roman dude if you got a Jeep and it’s stock you can do almost every offshoot don’t get me wrong it will be hard/fun but you can do it I own a 03 sahara and I did almost everything stock
Lets go wheeling buddy.
First, thanks for this video! Im still studying it and hope to go soon. how long of a trip is this? Im on a dual sport bike and want to know how long this trail takes from start to end on the main road. thanks!
It's 14 or 15 miles start to finish. if you stay on the main road you could probably do it in less than 2 hours.
NotaRubicon Productions thank you sir!
Will this be passable with 2WD Taco with 3 inch lift staying on the fire road in the winter with snow?
Some of the sections of the fire road are a bit steep. We've had trouble on the fire-road in the snow even with 4WD..
Thank you for the reply. We ended up going on Sat (sans 4x2) Jan 5th before the snow came and foolishly got stuck on the Hell's Gate? part. Luckily we (Taco and 4runner 4x4) were able to turn around and go down the way we came up and saved ourselves. But love the vids! Keep it up! @@TheNotaRubicon
I'm not a great fan of heights, but i love going off- road when i can (to a limited extent). Would love to try Cleghorn, but how do you handle an opposite-way driver when there's no room to pass? Who backs up? And for how long until there's a pull-out? Hmmm...
If it is an up/downhill, the law says the person coming DOWN is the one to back up (it's safer to back UP hill than back DOWN hill).. but hill or on a narrow-flat, it boils down to who is most willing or whoever can safely back up .. sometimes a pull-out is a few yards away, sometimes its a mile away.
@@TheNotaRubicon once went up this twisty hill, and at the top, it was blocked. I sweated bullets... had to get out a few times to assess the road, drove with half my body out the window, watching the road. I finally made it, but I lost a few pounds doing so 😀. I have a longer vehicle, Traverse AWD, with about 7" clearance and horrible approach/depart angles. The AWD is quite good; tried in mud and loose dirt. A jeep would be nice lol.
I'm sure you've got great stories. And BTW, thanks for the great videos.
Where can I get the same fender flares that you have
On your Rubicon I Cant find them anywhere
They look very cool
I am brand new to off roading. In the case of the yellow jeep on its side - What happens? What is the process to get him/her upright? Is there such a thing as Jeep rescue? LOL.
Firstly, never go alone so you have someone to help you or give you a ride home if you need it. This driver was alone, and lucky for him when our group found him we were able to help get him upright with our straps and winches.
If you stay on the main fire road, can you do this in a 2 wheel drive Grand Cherokee?
I did this trail for the first time last month in my stock height '02 Subaru wrx with my buddies and their truck group. most of the trail is easy and enough that I averaged about 20mph . My car actually did better in some steep sections than my buddies 2wd colorado on stock tires. there was one part where I was forced to stop on a very steep section of the fire road (the turn they skipped around 10:12 in this video) that I had to dump the clutch to get up the hill. that was the only part where I had trouble but if you're crazy enough to be considering doing this in a 2wd car I would say NO
In a 2wd frontier is ok?
Done it a few times it's pretty easy. Jku on 37's
great video. really enjoyed it. I have a 2.5" lifted 4runner trd off road, rock sliders, and 33" tires. also with kdss. meaning a bit more articulation than the ones without the system, so you think that I can do most of the off shoots, even though i have kdss, it is ifs
We've seen lessor vehicles do it, but you might struggle a bit near the end on "oh shit Creek"/Hell's Highway.
@@TheNotaRubicon thank you. Maybe I'll skip the last two or three. Pride isn't necessary. Haha
So if you can't do the chute traveling east towards the lake, do you have to turn around, or is there a bypass for the chute?
shane mcnally Easy bypass for The Chute on the left. Just stay on the flat fire-road.
The blue jeep in 4 low still has to go fast up hill ?? 😕
So do u think a stock Silverado Z71 can do everything u did whit that Jeep?
Thanks for the video. Can Cleghorn and Pilot Rock be done in the same day?
It's a long day, but yes!
Which way do you recommend going?
Traveling with my kids, should I just do Pilot Rock? And Cleghorn some other time
I forgot to ask, what do you mean using Lockers or not. We just bought a Wrangler. Does this mean we may not have them?
Only the “Rubicon” comes with lockers unless you purchase and install aftermarket lockers.
Great video! What are the chances I’ll pin stripe my new midsize truck if I stick to the fire road the whole time?
david Silva if you stay on the fire-road, the chances of pinstriping are about 0.000001%
NotaRubicon Productions thanks!
Love your vid. Please tell me what exhaust you have, it sounds great!
It's a MagnaFlow 17143 Cat‑Back.. Nice and small and tucked up under the driver's side rear door
NotaRubicon Productions I saw your build video with TrailRecon. He mentioned it was a modified system, mind telling me how it was modified? It sounds really good. I wonder if it will would just as good on my 2016 4runner with the 4.0 v6?
You're running a single or dual exhaust?
I think he meant it was modified by us putting on the MagnaFlow 17143. It's a single exhaust system. The NotARubicon engine is a 3.6 v6 so it might even sound a bit better on your 4.0.
NotaRubicon Productions Thank you, would love to hear a "drive by" with your exhaust, I think a lot of others would love to as well. You should contact their marketing and have them set you up with a unique promo code and work something out with them
What do you mean by Disconnect ?
"Disconnecting the anti-swaybar" - this is something that can be easily done on a Jeep to allow for more "flex" and articulation of the suspension when going across deep ruts, holes, rocks, etc.
Do you think the trail is still open after the recent storm?
Thanks for the video!
This video was recorded less than a week after the BIG storm in February. Since then there have been a few other rainy days.. Yes, the trail is open.
What program or device are you using to get your GPS to show in your video?
That's dashcam video from our Garmin Nuvi GPS
@@TheNotaRubicon I didn't know that the Garmin device did videos, I'll have to check it out..Thanks.
Do you like the hi-lift jack bolted to the hood? Looks like it blocks your view.
yes, we like it on the hood.. Does not obstruct the view at all. It only appears that way because the camera is mounted low on the dash.
Is a ford raptor too wide/big for this trail?
No problem for the fire-road but we've seen a couple of Raptors get serious damage on the off-shoots..
I just bought a new ford ranger and want to go will be my first time but I think I will stay on the fire road for a while?
David Wielt I would recommend that. Can’t go wrong on the fire road!
I have a big 1998 Suburban 4 by 4 do you think the Suburban would be too wide for these Trails or would it be okay.
A suburban would do fine on the fire-road but would probably struggle on most of the off-shoots and would definitely be too wide for "The Chute" - i would also keep it far away from the "Hells Highway" section.
At 25:00 idiot me decided to go down here.... Crapped my pants... I'm experienced but not THAT experienced... Had to get out the car and take a break..
lol same. My retard moment was seeing the skull and thinking “I remember that skull from youtube, this must be the right way!” Took a long break before continuing down cleghorn.