He forgets one of the biggest danger for him in this position, the free hand of the attacker. He assumes that the attacker wil only hit the back of your head! I tried this move and my partner just grapped my chin or nose with a handhook and took me to the floor and stapped the hell out of me!You can better be on the outside, to kinfe swith does not happon that often, in studies in yails it only happoned 1 or 2 times on hundrets of attacks, you and your attacker can hardly think in this situation, so an knife switch will happon zerro to none! Thanks for this video because you are trying something were we all can learn and debate over, keep up the good work!
One thing boyos - ALAWAYS wear eye protection when you do even the lightest sparring with even the most rubber jelly knife. A simple construction safety glasses will do and you might save yourself tons of trouble
I get really irritated when RUclips martial artist say there's nothing you can do against the knife. When you can't run or give them what they want, rolling over and dying isn't martial arts. Soldiers have been dealing with knives, daggers, swords and spears for thousands of years and when a soldier loses his sword he doesn't just say "oh I'm unarmed and the enemy soldier has a weapon, I guess I better just roll over and die"
That is because they do not want to take responsability, but the conceps of this video save my life (against a criminal who show me knowledge in "gaucho/argentinian knive style"). I love bjj & Burtonson jkd (i trainned and used PFS jkd/ hubad ) . Saludos desde Argentina!
What if you stepped in and performed an inside reap or ouci Gari? Would going to the ground then wrestling to control the knife be better than doing so standing? It seems like he has less ability to move and retract the arm to attack again
A lot of times you might be outpositioned to run away, and even if you are in an open field where theres no one or thing to get in your way, it comes down to who has the better sprint. Also considering you have to also take the moment to turn around.
So 1:30 is bad because you might get punched, but 2:00 is good even though you can also get can punched (and without seeing it, and in a more vulnerable/dangerous spot)?
Seems the missing component would be something like a throw, what is Japanese jujutsu mostly comprised of? Seems a lot of people are trying to reinvent the wheel, what did samurai and other ancient warriors use to deal with armed opponents bar-handed.
In sparring an Infantry buddy tried this two hands on one grip with close hug to my body. I used te garuma with my free hand to lift and dump him. Instinctively he put his hand out to catch himself and freed my training knife. As he hit the ground he was catching training shots to both lungs and the liver. Had it been real he'd be in heaven.
If I had to fight from the inside, I like Burton's technique, but what do you think of using the Russian Tie to slam a knife-wielder into a wall and breaking his arm? ruclips.net/video/qJh2Gpfzcik/видео.html In this video, I show this use of the wall and the real dangers of getting trapped on the inside. It's not about getting hit; it's about getting grabbed and stabbed and he doesn't even need to switch hands. Ex-law enforcement. Comments appreciated. Happy New Year. Peace
Hey Stephen!! I'm wondering, do you do any knife defense? Is it simaler to this? Do you think its effective for a real life situation? I'd love to see a video on it! I bought this guys knife defense course and it think it's pretty realistic but you really have to put the time in with someone training with full resistance (eventually) and I need to practice it more. But yeah the baseball bat grip is legit.
Why not grab the thumb? In Filipino martial arts you grab the thumb which controls the knife and arm and you can disarm him easier. Also you could turn this position you show into a joint lock takedown. A C lock outward wrist and elbow break and throw down.
Btw pg.118-123 tao of JKD has double and single leg takedowns, heel hooks, armbars, calf crushes, chokes, judo trips/throws the TWISTER. Striking/grappling/wrestling, it is similar to modern MMA
Seems like you will go in and get stabbed in this position. I would never want to stay there or even attempt to have the guy behind me with the knife pointed at me. But if this is a good position to know in case you end up in that position. It could happen.
It is particularly disturbing how Burton grabs the knife hand, putting his THROAT AND NECK near his face, im not sure we wanna be doing that. No disrespect towards him, just that, i don't have much faith in a technique that puts me in a more MORTAL POSITION. If he happens to cut yiur hands or arns in a deadly knife attack, we wanna keep the knife away from anywhere vital, forget about taking the knife, or trying to stiff arm control his arm. Waste of time and dangerous. ⚠️WARNING these are ideas not plans. Beres how to handle it. 1. GET BEHIND A. BARRIER. 2.USE SOMETHING LONGER THAN HIS KNIFE. 3. CAUSE AN INJURY RIGHT AWAY. 4. THINK ABOUT IT? A guy who has to respond to a grabber, struggler? Or a guy dealing with a SPLIT EYE. Its up to you. But to me, emoty hand on a knife is crazy prople stuff. If theres no choice, then id say TAKE IT TO EM.
As a JKD guy I use a karambit with the retention ring and when an attacker grabs my wrist I wing chun it and stab at their hand and forearm then face/throat lol but this is the type of defense I use good vid guys ty
I'm sorry I disagree SM this technique I love this instructor but having done Security in places with a lot of drug dealers I can tell you that if you turn the back of your head while trying to take a knife most people are going to take another knife and go to the spot between the vertebrae and the back of your head where you can sever the spine from the brain. The problem right now is that there are a lot of drug dealers who have training from either military experience or being homeless with people with military experience or simply watching martial art videos. It's unfortunate but most people who get in a lot of fights carry two knives and if one knife is grabbed and you commit yourself fully to one knife they're just going to pull out another knife and stab away I hate to say this but it's the truth I know this from talking with drug dealers and learning how they function. this is also true for people have been homeless for a long time they generally carry two knives and they understand that the best way to defend themselves as somebody grabs one of their arms they're just going to pull out another knife so unfortunately I feel like a lot of this needs to be modified some more
@@nicholasg9804 Having 2 knives pulled on you is no joke and can probably say no technique besides running would probably work. From experience in doing what Burton is teaching is that you really need to put pressure on the attacker. I found I failed whenever I just stood there fighting. I constantly have to keep moving forward pushing them back.
Instead of struggling over the knife hand and getting punched in the brain stem, as if that were a small thing, he could move under the arm, to the back, and then would have many options including Sankyo in Aikido. With all the BS rhetoric about Aikido it gets ignored by people who then try to make it up as they go along. Instead of drawing upon hundreds of years of weapons defense tradition contained in Aikido instruction. Struggle is a mistake. Especially if they are larger than you. Especially if they have a weapon. Especially if there are multiple attackers. Aikido has much better strategies to problems like this.
Demasiada teoría y poca práctica . Que te vaya al 100% y luche por el cuchillo y jamás vas a retener el brazo . Además desarmar el cuchillo tocandolo directamente es de estúpidos , porque te arriesgas a dejarte los dedos
Me parece que no conoces el instructor.... con el es mucha práctica y poca teoría ... quieres saber si si trabaja te sugiero que lo pongas en práctica con un oponente que no te deje hacerlo es de la única manera que te darás cuenta si es teoría o no ... buen día 👍🏽
That doesn't look very effective at all, and if you are positing techniques that require thousands of hours of sparring to have a chance of working then you really shouldn't even bother.
He forgets one of the biggest danger for him in this position, the free hand of the attacker. He assumes that the attacker wil only hit the back of your head! I tried this move and my partner just grapped my chin or nose with a handhook and took me to the floor and stapped the hell out of me!You can better be on the outside, to kinfe swith does not happon that often, in studies in yails it only happoned 1 or 2 times on hundrets of attacks, you and your attacker can hardly think in this situation, so an knife switch will happon zerro to none! Thanks for this video because you are trying something were we all can learn and debate over, keep up the good work!
One thing boyos - ALAWAYS wear eye protection when you do even the lightest sparring with even the most rubber jelly knife. A simple construction safety glasses will do and you might save yourself tons of trouble
Nivo UF they’re doing fine their pros
I agree, eye protection.
I get really irritated when RUclips martial artist say there's nothing you can do against the knife. When you can't run or give them what they want, rolling over and dying isn't martial arts. Soldiers have been dealing with knives, daggers, swords and spears for thousands of years and when a soldier loses his sword he doesn't just say "oh I'm unarmed and the enemy soldier has a weapon, I guess I better just roll over and die"
That is because they do not want to take responsability, but the conceps of this video save my life (against a criminal who show me knowledge in "gaucho/argentinian knive style"). I love bjj & Burtonson jkd (i trainned and used PFS jkd/ hubad ) . Saludos desde Argentina!
@@BayushiAramoro that’s awesome 🤘🏾🖤
After watching tons of street brawling videos, I learn one thing. Be aware of situation and run when possible is always a wise decision.
What if you stepped in and performed an inside reap or ouci Gari? Would going to the ground then wrestling to control the knife be better than doing so standing? It seems like he has less ability to move and retract the arm to attack again
Maybe if you're cornered, this stuff would be called for, but otherwise, it's time to step back and run away.
A lot of times you might be outpositioned to run away, and even if you are in an open field where theres no one or thing to get in your way, it comes down to who has the better sprint. Also considering you have to also take the moment to turn around.
Been a fan of Burton for a long time. Huge influence on my own martial arts journey. Go check out his you tube channel.
So 1:30 is bad because you might get punched, but 2:00 is good even though you can also get can punched (and without seeing it, and in a more vulnerable/dangerous spot)?
Seems the missing component would be something like a throw, what is Japanese jujutsu mostly comprised of? Seems a lot of people are trying to reinvent the wheel, what did samurai and other ancient warriors use to deal with armed opponents bar-handed.
In sparring an Infantry buddy tried this two hands on one grip with close hug to my body.
I used te garuma with my free hand to lift and dump him. Instinctively he put his hand out to catch himself and freed my training knife. As he hit the ground he was catching training shots to both lungs and the liver. Had it been real he'd be in heaven.
Awesome techniques👍👍👌👌👊👊🥊🥊🙏🙏🥋🥋
This is awesome stuff to know!
I use the 2 on 1 but pull on the arm and outside trip.
If I had to fight from the inside, I like Burton's technique, but what do you think of using the Russian Tie to slam a knife-wielder into a wall and breaking his arm? ruclips.net/video/qJh2Gpfzcik/видео.html In this video, I show this use of the wall and the real dangers of getting trapped on the inside. It's not about getting hit; it's about getting grabbed and stabbed and he doesn't even need to switch hands. Ex-law enforcement. Comments appreciated. Happy New Year. Peace
Spot on, good comment!
Hey Stephen!! I'm wondering, do you do any knife defense? Is it simaler to this? Do you think its effective for a real life situation? I'd love to see a video on it!
I bought this guys knife defense course and it think it's pretty realistic but you really have to put the time in with someone training with full resistance (eventually) and I need to practice it more.
But yeah the baseball bat grip is legit.
Why not grab the thumb? In Filipino martial arts you grab the thumb which controls the knife and arm and you can disarm him easier. Also you could turn this position you show into a joint lock takedown. A C lock outward wrist and elbow break and throw down.
Btw pg.118-123 tao of JKD has double and single leg takedowns, heel hooks, armbars, calf crushes, chokes, judo trips/throws the TWISTER. Striking/grappling/wrestling, it is similar to modern MMA
Do you have an instructional dvd for this system ?
Omg I didnt realise till the end, should have when he did that disarm. I do JKD/MMA so I get irritated when people scoff at knife fighting
It’s so dangerous though. Great to know the only practical options but still very dangerous.
Good practical information.
The attacker won't be soft.
Can Filipino Dumog be incorporated into this knife 🔪 defense method!!! 5:53
Thanks.
Seems like you will go in and get stabbed in this position. I would never want to stay there or even attempt to have the guy behind me with the knife pointed at me. But if this is a good position to know in case you end up in that position. It could happen.
Russian tie works to off balance and strikes are ineffective without balance.
Won't work for multiple rapid knife jabs.
Some guy tried to stab me in the balls with a broken bottle and I would have been far too scared to try any of this stuff.
Mark Ant did your balls get stabbed?
Back to the Enemy - Bad Idea
FINALLY ITS BEEN 30 YEARS AND I FINALLY HAVE A GOOD KNIFE DEFENSE TO PRACTICE
And I'm only 23!!!
Just run when you still have time to run away from the knife
It is particularly disturbing how Burton grabs the knife hand, putting his THROAT AND NECK near his face, im not sure we wanna be doing that. No disrespect towards him, just that, i don't have much faith in a technique that puts me in a more MORTAL POSITION. If he happens to cut yiur hands or arns in a deadly knife attack, we wanna keep the knife away from anywhere vital, forget about taking the knife, or trying to stiff arm control his arm. Waste of time and dangerous. ⚠️WARNING these are ideas not plans. Beres how to handle it. 1. GET BEHIND A. BARRIER. 2.USE SOMETHING LONGER THAN HIS KNIFE. 3. CAUSE AN INJURY RIGHT AWAY. 4. THINK ABOUT IT? A guy who has to respond to a grabber, struggler? Or a guy dealing with a SPLIT EYE. Its up to you. But to me, emoty hand on a knife is crazy prople stuff. If theres no choice, then id say TAKE IT TO EM.
me thinketh, against a skillful opponent with a knife, running away is your best option. If you can't - pray :)
As a JKD guy I use a karambit with the retention ring and when an attacker grabs my wrist I wing chun it and stab at their hand and forearm then face/throat lol but this is the type of defense I use good vid guys ty
I'm sorry I disagree SM this technique I love this instructor but having done Security in places with a lot of drug dealers I can tell you that if you turn the back of your head while trying to take a knife most people are going to take another knife and go to the spot between the vertebrae and the back of your head where you can sever the spine from the brain. The problem right now is that there are a lot of drug dealers who have training from either military experience or being homeless with people with military experience or simply watching martial art videos. It's unfortunate but most people who get in a lot of fights carry two knives and if one knife is grabbed and you commit yourself fully to one knife they're just going to pull out another knife and stab away I hate to say this but it's the truth I know this from talking with drug dealers and learning how they function. this is also true for people have been homeless for a long time they generally carry two knives and they understand that the best way to defend themselves as somebody grabs one of their arms they're just going to pull out another knife so unfortunately I feel like a lot of this needs to be modified some more
What do you think
I meant with not sm
@@nicholasg9804 Having 2 knives pulled on you is no joke and can probably say no technique besides running would probably work. From experience in doing what Burton is teaching is that you really need to put pressure on the attacker. I found I failed whenever I just stood there fighting. I constantly have to keep moving forward pushing them back.
This is so sad.
but regarding your question, perhaps a head butt as quickly as possible is the best chance, take out the CPU as fast as possible.
head butt while controlling the bicep
Lol. Sucks if he is carrying an extra knife, eh?
Wrong you had a disarm,you could have thrown him to the grown, and broke his wrist,
If you, or any other martial artist, got involved in a knife fight, you will likely be cut. Kali and other knife defense systems are not realistic.
nop.
A simple wrist throw will work. It's a technique found in jujutsu, aikido & hapkido.
You block and punch at the same time
Instead of struggling over the knife hand and getting punched in the brain stem, as if that were a small thing, he could move under the arm, to the back, and then would have many options including Sankyo in Aikido. With all the BS rhetoric about Aikido it gets ignored by people who then try to make it up as they go along. Instead of drawing upon hundreds of years of weapons defense tradition contained in Aikido instruction. Struggle is a mistake. Especially if they are larger than you. Especially if they have a weapon. Especially if there are multiple attackers. Aikido has much better strategies to problems like this.
How to stop a knife attack. Get a ccw.
Bullshit.
Demasiada teoría y poca práctica . Que te vaya al 100% y luche por el cuchillo y jamás vas a retener el brazo . Además desarmar el cuchillo tocandolo directamente es de estúpidos , porque te arriesgas a dejarte los dedos
Me parece que no conoces el instructor.... con el es mucha práctica y poca teoría ... quieres saber si si trabaja te sugiero que lo pongas en práctica con un oponente que no te deje hacerlo es de la única manera que te darás cuenta si es teoría o no ... buen día 👍🏽
That doesn't look very effective at all, and if you are positing techniques that require thousands of hours of sparring to have a chance of working then you really shouldn't even bother.
Unaffective.