TV Monitor Calibration (part 2) How To From Beginner To Advanced Levels of DisplayCal

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024

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  • @Finite-Tuning
    @Finite-Tuning  2 года назад +3

    In this video we are going to focus on the advanced settings in DisplayCal. This stuff can be very complicated and overwhelming at times, it is my intention to create a 'complete' series of videos to streamline the learning curve. I could not find what I wanted back when I was trying to learn this stuff, so I decided to create for you what I wish I had back then.
    Here is the complete tv - monitor calibration series playlist:
    ruclips.net/p/PLIPWY-_PaDCyFveq21huuSryNFz3IxWVL
    Understanding Gamma -- rb.gy/yxc1p2
    Which Gamma is Correct? -- rb.gy/hmflnt
    Here are the links to everything mentioned in the video:
    i1Display Pro Plus -- amzn.to/3LrFDqy
    Tripod -- amzn.to/3K3Xa7Z
    DisplayCAL -- displaycal.net/
    Here is the tool I used towards the end to quickly switch between ICC profiles when I showed the before and after:
    DisplayProfile Freeware for Windows -- rb.gy/9bzckl
    Timestamps:
    0:00 -- Intro and Disclaimer.
    2:45 -- The Settings and Options.
    35:20 -- Preparing the TV for Calibration.
    41:20 -- Equipment Setup.
    43:59 -- Calibrating the TV.
    56:39 -- Installing the ICC Profile.
    58:12 -- Before and After Comparison with Video.
    1:08:20 -- Before and After Comparison with Paper, the Numbers!
    1:20:36 -- Final Thoughts.
    Subscribe with bells and that jazz if ya like, but thanks for watchin! Cheers 🍻

  • @vincentrowold1104
    @vincentrowold1104 3 года назад +2

    Glad you're covering this stuff man!

  • @musijl
    @musijl 3 года назад +1

    Black level isn't supposed to be turned off. It works with those levels you're injecting to your tv. Setting it to auto is the reason you don't get blacker than black images after setting 0-255 (PC levels) on DisplayCal. It should be set to 16-235 (video levels) on DisplayCal and auto or low on your LG. I know this because like you, I've read tons of information about this and man, it never ends.

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  3 года назад +1

      The best setting is the one that works for you. After many hours of experimenting I have found the correct settings for me on this TV.
      Cheers 🍻.

  • @tracyr5594
    @tracyr5594 3 года назад +2

    I liked watching you line up the RGB on the screen :) This interests me.

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  3 года назад +1

      A little tuning can make a really big difference, and too it's kinda fun.
      Cheers 🍻.

    • @JMUDoc
      @JMUDoc Год назад +1

      My favourite part of calibrating as well, for some reason😁

  • @raulcabronero5649
    @raulcabronero5649 25 дней назад

    Hi my friend. I try to download thx app and this dodnt show at android anymore how i can find it or another same tool run with phone camera

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  25 дней назад

      Here is the android version:
      play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.argyllpro.colormeter&hl=en_US

  • @sajedm9156
    @sajedm9156 Год назад

    What's "measured vs assumed target whitepoint" mine seems to have become worse after calibration. How do i fix it? What is it? and how do i calibrate according to brightness in my room?

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  Год назад +1

      You can measure your white point or you can manually set it. That's probably where your running into less than desired results. Your white point should be manually set to 6500k, that is the target you want to achieve. To compensate for room lighting you must first measure the room lighting. Set your white level to custom and manually measure your conditions, then enter those numbers. But that will affect brightness, you probably won't like that result either.
      Just tell your TV/monitor what color is white, first. Then if you really want that last little 5-10% of accuracy, only then should you concern yourself with installing a color profile. Getting the TV to know what color white truly is, that's the most important part of this entire process.

  • @raulcabronero5649
    @raulcabronero5649 23 дня назад

    Sorry for bother you.. i find a seller of one colimeter and he didnt have idea if work for tv.. and the model he have was purchase on 2018 is a i1 display proi see xrite wirite on it. Is like the same as your here.. is no matter year of manufature of this device? Sorry and thanks

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  22 дня назад

      I don't know. You have to compare the specs, I have no idea what meter you're talking about. If it's not the exact model I linked to then it's not the same thing I used in the video. This is the new version of what I have:
      amzn.to/4fQCFMk
      This is not an area you can cheat, the sensor is the most important part and it just costs what it costs.

    • @raulcabronero5649
      @raulcabronero5649 22 дня назад

      Is i1 xrite display pro
      . Tge seller told me he purchase it in 2018

  • @m.m.3753
    @m.m.3753 2 месяца назад +1

    Hi there, thx for your Tutorial. Do you know how to calibrate HDR with windows 11 through Displaycal? Cause 3D Luts are not allowed in Windows, even on actuall beta release. But they fixed HDR wallpapers now. JXR Pics are usable now for background.

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  2 месяца назад +1

      The only thing I adjust in HDR is white balance, and that procedure is exactly the same as SDR. I've always meant to dive into the the HDR side of this but never got around to it. If doing the stranded 2 point calibration, all you need are HDR color samples which can be found online for free, I'm not sure if the program has any built in, I never got around to the HDR deep dive. But MadVR can use 3d luts, and Jriver is the only MS Windows video player I'm aware of that uses MadVR. But I only white balance for HDR since that is 90+% of the whole spectrum. And white is still just white, but make sure HDR is active before making any adjustment to your white balance.

    • @m.m.3753
      @m.m.3753 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Finite-Tuning thx a lot

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  2 месяца назад

      @@m.m.3753 :
      Just an addendum here. But if you are concerned with 2 point 10 point or 20 point adjustment on your TV screen, no luts are required. But if you really want to create a lut, then MadVR is the only MS windows based software I know of that can use it, and Jriver is the only media player I know of that uses MadVR.
      Hope that makes sense.
      Cheers 🍻

    • @m.m.3753
      @m.m.3753 2 месяца назад

      @@Finite-Tuning i dont use MadVR only want an HDR icc for my TV.

    • @m.m.3753
      @m.m.3753 2 месяца назад

      @@Finite-Tuning tried your Settings with rec. 1886... on SDR PC for gaming with my LED TV. Awesome!!!!

  • @cacuevas
    @cacuevas 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for this. But i still confused regarding the high and low point, how do i know when to adjust each one?

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  2 года назад

      Just start with the high point adjustment, then move to the low point, then double check your highs to see if it needs readjusting, then check you lows again. Rinse and repeat until you are satisfied with all results. Cheers 🍻

    • @cacuevas
      @cacuevas 2 года назад

      @@Finite-Tuning hey, displaycal doesn’t detect my color checker display pro, how can i fix this

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  2 года назад

      @@cacuevas Try unplugging and rebooting then try again. If it still is not working goto the top of the displaycal window and click 'tools' then click 'detect display devices and instruments'. Or just click on the refresh icon between "display" and "Instruments" and it will do the same thing. If it still doesn't work, try a different USB port.

  • @hk9443
    @hk9443 2 года назад

    hi which setting did u check to turn on the black level interactive controls (low end)? On my displaycal only white level tuning is shown.

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  2 года назад +2

      I specifically show and tell how to do this in the video.
      Cheers 🍻.

  • @skulley6361
    @skulley6361 3 года назад

    How did you make an extended video chart report for the out of the box settings on your TV? Usually you can only measure that after creating an ICC profile and having it selected in the settings line? So how do you measure that up before any calibration or am I missing something?

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  3 года назад

      If I understand and remember correctly, skip everything and just go to the verification tab. From there you will pick your test and the comparative. But there are other ways of doing this also. Such as, click on tools and then report from the new drop down list. You have options, many of them.
      Cheers 🍻.

  • @azrabain8210
    @azrabain8210 Год назад +1

    Thanks for this in depth tutorial on using DisplayCal. I’m kind of new to TV calibration but I’m starting to figure it out it.
    I currently own a Samsung 55S95B QD-Oled that is pretty amazing. I also own the Calibrite Display Plus colorimeter like you and really like the DisplayCal software.
    Anyways I have a question for you, do you know how to do a 20 point white balance color calibration?
    What you did in this video was a 2 point (high & low) I believe but I’m wondering if DisplayCal can do a 20 point or if you know of another way if not?

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  Год назад +1

      I don't think Displaycal can inherently do a 20 point white balance. You would need the color samples to start with, and I'm still not sure this is the best software for that. But you could use the samples from:
      Spears & Munsil HD -- amzn.to/3Dj5CyX
      Spears & Munsil UHD HDR -- amzn.to/3jbgxnx
      That gets you the color chart samples you would need and then some, but I'm not sure how user friendly Displaycal would be to use like this. You would have to manually show each sample one at a time in a separate video player and I imagine it would be a rather painful process for no real benefit. If you're dead serious about a 20 point calibration, I would just buy Calman software for your brand of TV and be done with it.
      Cheers 🍻

    • @azrabain8210
      @azrabain8210 Год назад +1

      @@Finite-Tuning Thanks for getting back to me on this.
      I already own the Spears & Munsil UHD disk and a PS5 to use it. Actually this is how I calibrated my Samsung TV for us with my PS5.
      I use my desktop PC that can do HDR that I have DisplayCal software on connected to the Calibrite Display Plus colorimeter.
      I start the DisplayCal calibration on my PC monitor then I just take the colorimeter and put it on my Samsung S95B to do calibrations to the white point on that set.
      I then fire up the the Spears & Munsil disk on my PS5 that has the patterns that I use to do the 2 point white point calibrations on my TV.
      I’m pretty happy with the results with just the 2 point but was not sure how to do the 20 point. I figure if I’ve came this far I might as well keep learning until I can do the complete 20 point like the pros do.
      I will have to keep researching what patterns to use in the Spears & Munsil disk to do the 20 point or if it even possible through that disk as the expensive CalMAN software does not support my Samsung S95B yet.

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  Год назад +1

      @@azrabain8210:
      Yeah you got it man, that's how you would do it to the best of my knowledge. Your test disk should have the necessary white samples, all in various shades of grey 😁. I've never used DisplayCal to do this so I'm sure some experimenting will be required. But I am more than confident the end result will just be a number on a page rather than something you will actually see with the naked eye. Check your calibration once a month to get a feel for how much it will drift over time, then decide if 20 point is even worth your time.
      Cheers 🍻

  • @JMUDoc
    @JMUDoc Год назад

    With LG displays, there is the capacity to upload a LUT directly into the TV at the hardware level - completely bypasses any need to have Windows apply profiles AND they stay in place when you watch non-PC content such as Blu-Rays.

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  Год назад +1

      That is completely separate hardware and software. This video is specifically focused on DisplayCal as titled. This method works on everything, everywhere and the software is Free.

    • @JMUDoc
      @JMUDoc Год назад

      @@Finite-Tuning LUTs can be generated by DisplayCAL (in Autodesk .3dl format) and uploaded to the TV via free alternatives to CALMAN - there are several threads in the DisplayCAL forum on how to do so.

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  Год назад +1

      @@JMUDoc:
      Yes, I am aware, but it still requires a USB to rs232 cable a the very least and a separate LUT box for many brands other than LG. All well beyond the scope of this video series. I think I mentioned this ability at some point in the video series, I'm thinking somewhere in part 1. I pan on doing an HDR specific video soon, I'll try to remember to mention (again?) the ability to create and install LUT's, but it's not for everybody and calibration is already so overwhelming to anyone getting started. My only intention with this series was to help those with no experience to get a head start.
      I wanted all practical information in one location in an easy to view format. Nobody else on RUclips was doing this program any justice, I tried my best with my inexperienced self to remedy that. I'm no pro in the calibration department, but I learned the hard way what to do, when and how. Passing along that hard learned information in one easy to view location was the point of this series. I tried to make this quiet and focused, rather then the obnoxious noise made about this topic in every forum everywhere with 10,000 pages that ain't nobody got time to read!
      I was/am just trying to get folks to understand some basics. They must purchase a colorimeter, and then they must learn to use a program which is overwhelming for most. This series is meant to streamline and lessen the learning curve. Forums are meant to deep dive and opinionate and just make noise in general for thousands of pages worth of bored souls.
      God I hate forums!
      Cheers 🍻

  • @tracyr5594
    @tracyr5594 3 года назад +1

    "Well theres gonna be a lot more talkin" lol

  • @MrScartz123
    @MrScartz123 Год назад

    If a monitor doesnt have low rgb settings just high rgb, what do you do?

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  Год назад

      Adjust the high setting manually and install an ICC profile to correct the low end.

    • @MrScartz123
      @MrScartz123 Год назад

      @@Finite-Tuning the icc profile corrects the low end, just like that?

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  Год назад

      @@MrScartz123:
      Yep, just like that. It's a multi step program, just run through the steps as shown in the video.

    • @MrScartz123
      @MrScartz123 Год назад +1

      @@Finite-Tuning ok i installed it. seems ok. Im curious i get 130% srgb almost 90 adobe and almost 90% DCIp3. but if i go back and check my black point i have like a delta of 7. I have good deltas in the .HTML verification file too. what gives? I belive i calibrated my monitor 12 times(in the span of 3 months). Each time with new information in mind. I use spyderxPRO. Also another question :)) if I factory restart my monitor and measure it I get 250 CD. If I go in user mode (the only way for my monitor to change RGB values) I get 330 cd. At what CD should I measure white point? Thanks!!

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  Год назад

      @@MrScartz123:
      All excellent questions!
      Your monitor seems capable of way more, that's why your Srgb seems high by the numbers. But it's not high enough to hit 100% of the DCIp3 color space which is higher still! It's all about a color space in a box, once the box is full you need a bigger box to hold more information. If your display can do more than the small box you used to measure against, the number will be high. But on the flip side, if you measure with a small color box hoping to fill a big one, you will be disappointed.
      Once you are calibrated and go to recheck, you might want to reboot first and make sure your new color profile is installed and currently active. I've linked you to the tool that I use for this purpose in the video description. Lastly I know nothing about your colorimeter or settings, I only know what I've shown and told in the videos that I've personally made on this topic using the exact equipment in the videos. Please keep in mind that if you've got what I've got, then I can point fingers. But when using something different, I only have experience and opinion to offer.
      Brightness: 250 vs 330, all meaningless unless you have a specific need for a specific environment. Let the monitor shine as bright as you can tolerate, unless you have a specific requirement as a photo editor or videographer. Otherwise, just let the monitor do what it is capable of doing at it's maximum. In other words, leave it as measured, always, unless you have specific need to change it.
      Cheers 🍻

  • @Ustaleone
    @Ustaleone Год назад

    Hey man, just had a quick question and I obviously couldn't watch the whole video to see if it was answered as it would take too long.
    Is there a way to calibrate HDR10 for movie content for free without resorting to paid calman software? I have a panasonic oled that uses a LG OLED so I wanted to ask you.
    I am very new to calibrating, my device hasn't even come in the mail yet and I wanted to do my homework first but this is all sooo intimidating. I think I will be fine with calibrating displays for SDR content, but most of my movies are in HDR10 so I would also very much like to calibrate those presets. Otherwise I get the feeling that I only have a half-calibrated TV.

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  Год назад

      DisplayCal will do both SDR and HDR calibration. The process is the same with minor difference in settings. I'm still planning to make an HDR tutorial using DisplayCal sometime yet this winter.

    • @willgavillan
      @willgavillan 10 месяцев назад

      Did you ever get around to making a HDR tutorial for DisplayCAL?@@Finite-Tuning

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  10 месяцев назад +1

      @@willgavillan:
      No I didn't, because it's really the exact same thing, same process, same steps repeated. The only thing that really changes is your color profile. Just this week I tuned up my TV, it's been about a year since my last tune up. All I do anymore is 2 point white balance for both rec 709 and rec 2020. It's the exact same process the exact same way. Just make sure you have HDR turned on and active in widows before making any adjustments. Cause white is still white regardless of color profile, that is 90% of the entire battle right there.
      I can make a video demonstrating the HDR procedure if you like, but it's really just repeating everything you've already seen. Winter is coming so I should have plenty of time for such things. I'm looking forward to winter! Cheers 🍻

    • @willgavillan
      @willgavillan 10 месяцев назад

      @@Finite-Tuning if you have time, that would be helpful. I’m on Mac, but I’m sure the general gist still applies

  • @thebrunoserge
    @thebrunoserge 3 года назад +2

    "but if you're not going to run your television WITH a computer... uhhh... this is going to be a whole lot easier for you. Cause you're... heheHEHEHE I'm gonna show you"
    *proceeds to never show or talk about it. What's the time stamp for it?

    • @Descalabro
      @Descalabro 3 года назад

      I think that he was referring to the RGB lining up on near white and near black. Meaning that if your display has those controls, that's most of the calibration work done right there. That is, according to the video. I thought that a manual calibration implied that we built the whole gamma curve ourselves, but, I'm still very ignorant about this. But the TV seemed to have the option to adjust more than those 2 points (low and high)

    • @jwill9877
      @jwill9877 2 года назад

      It's easier because you are not setting an icc profile. You are just changing the red green and blue levels. Then your done. If you want to go deep down the rabbit hole then you can set the rgb levels for the 20 point levels. You just need to download the test patterns from avs forum.

    • @TechCody113
      @TechCody113 2 года назад

      @@jwill9877 how do I set software to do 20point?

    • @TechCody113
      @TechCody113 2 года назад

      @@jwill9877 it does automatically do gamma and black levels whitch is cool, did my new S95B and fixed little black crush here and there, imma do whole manual cal now for color at least

    • @jwill9877
      @jwill9877 2 года назад

      @@TechCody113 Download the tests patterns from avs forum and save them to a thumb drive. I believe the ones I downloaded were in mp4 format. Then plug the thumb drive into the tv and set your white balance to each black level. Do through 5 percent all the way to 100 percent. It takes time but it's worth it.

  • @musguelha14
    @musguelha14 2 года назад

    You don't know what you're talking about and should really just take this video down.

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning  2 года назад +2

      How about..... The info I provided has long since been tested and proven otherwise, IF you actually watched any of this 2 part series then you should know exactly what I'm talking about already. The video WILL remain!
      Good luck with your calibration attempts.