I am replacing one of these motors tomorrow . It’s ICP 6 ton gas package. Looks 100% the save. That motor lasted 7 weeks ONLY! It’s under warranty, however that motor s ~$1200 (!!!!!) at United Refrigeration! So, I am not sure if I want to install these units for my customers in a future.
I’m constantly seeing/hearing these motors going down. One of the things to look for is static pressure I believe these are very picky on static pressure.
Well, this particular RTU just got the entire ducts re-done. It was VERY deficient air ducts set up. It was ~800 CFM on the return side…. For a 6 ton unit!!!!! That Sudway restaurant was always sweating. So, I’ve got the entire system done correctly with ~3000 CFM on the return and ~2500 CFM for the supplies. It started to cool… ran happy for 2 days and… that damn motor just quit!
@@edlauren9434 right so now it’s running correctly and set to correct static for the motor. I also read issues with the high temp limit on the indoor section believe that was a recall on select years. And an issue regarding voltage with the plug.
Thanks for the video. I'm sitting right next to one. Found the transformer 5amp breaker tripping. Nothing coming on. Finally found that the compressor has an unloader plug on the backside of it. Unplugged it... breaker didn't trip, compressor and OF started... but indoor fan didn't. No 10 volt on orange and white wire . Line voltage was present on plug. So now I have an issue with the IF motor and the unloader. This unit I installed in 2019. POS. .... and my wife worked on the carrier assembly line here in Tyler for 21 years.... before they moved the plant to Mexico.
I’m definitely not really digging these. The motors have gone up as well they were 800 not there around the 1400 range and there made in Germany. I ordered a main PCB just to have on hand it took 6months to get. I’ve read a bulletin released by carrier having issues with the high limit switch on these and a certain batch of modules on the indoor motors. Something to note down. I might call tech and ask if there’s any recall or other issues we should be aware of with these units.
Are you going to sigler for the motor? My local sigler has them stocked pretty well. They told me there furnace boards are what’s on a few month back orders. There commercial parts are well in stock.
So In my case the plug burned up somehow and I was thinking about bypassing getting a new motor and just wire but the wiring together. Can I do that or no?
@@Itsjustciah that will work just make sure you wire correctly. Since you’re going to cut the plugs off I would cut back a bit on the plug coming from the line/controls. That way when you get a new motor you can reuse the plug.
@@hvacslayer2929 well i think the motor is fine I hadn’t confirmed why the plug burned up but I was attempting to save money by just eliminating the plug and just wiring the wires together
@@Itsjustciah probably lose connection inside the plug on the high voltage side. The plug connection is just that it’s completing the wires together. The board sends signal to the motor to control speed.
100% with you! I love to be able to repair my equipment without ordering these OEM only very special and crazy expensive parts. One my customer is running the restaurant with no A/C (1.5 month old RTU) and that damn blower motor has to be shipped from the factory.. So, no A/C at that restaurant for 4-5 days…. At Memphis… with 97F outside….
Thanks for the demonstration, I've got to replace one of these later this week
Glad to help 🤘🏻
Was that motor on a pretty new RTU? I am replacing one today. The unit is 1.5 months old.
@@edlauren9434 I think it was 5 years old
Easiest blower motor replacement out there. Replaced a bunch recently
Make sure you don’t have a high leg to ground on one of the incoming line wires
It is pretty simple and I give carrier credit for that. Not good to hear on replacements but job security ay! Lol
Good info to keep in mind thank you.
What makes you say that about a high leg to ground? I’ve had three bad motors in a month and I noticed I have one leg higher to ground than the others
I am replacing one of these motors tomorrow . It’s ICP 6 ton gas package. Looks 100% the save. That motor lasted 7 weeks ONLY!
It’s under warranty, however that motor s ~$1200 (!!!!!) at United Refrigeration! So, I am not sure if I want to install these units for my customers in a future.
I’m constantly seeing/hearing these motors going down. One of the things to look for is static pressure I believe these are very picky on static pressure.
Well, this particular RTU just got the entire ducts re-done. It was VERY deficient air ducts set up. It was ~800 CFM on the return side…. For a 6 ton unit!!!!! That Sudway restaurant was always sweating. So, I’ve got the entire system done correctly with ~3000 CFM on the return and ~2500 CFM for the supplies. It started to cool… ran happy for 2 days and… that damn motor just quit!
@@edlauren9434 right so now it’s running correctly and set to correct static for the motor. I also read issues with the high temp limit on the indoor section believe that was a recall on select years. And an issue regarding voltage with the plug.
Wswrefrigeration mentioned it in the comments on this video below.
Thanks for the video. I'm sitting right next to one. Found the transformer 5amp breaker tripping. Nothing coming on. Finally found that the compressor has an unloader plug on the backside of it. Unplugged it... breaker didn't trip, compressor and OF started... but indoor fan didn't. No 10 volt on orange and white wire . Line voltage was present on plug. So now I have an issue with the IF motor and the unloader. This unit I installed in 2019. POS. .... and my wife worked on the carrier assembly line here in Tyler for 21 years.... before they moved the plant to Mexico.
I’m definitely not really digging these. The motors have gone up as well they were 800 not there around the 1400 range and there made in Germany. I ordered a main PCB just to have on hand it took 6months to get.
I’ve read a bulletin released by carrier having issues with the high limit switch on these and a certain batch of modules on the indoor motors. Something to note down. I might call tech and ask if there’s any recall or other issues we should be aware of with these units.
Thank you I had one of these yesterday and you just confirmed I troubleshot it correctly 💪💪
No problem man glad to help
Was that unit almost brand new?
I am replacing one today on 1.5 months oil ICP 6 ton package.
The blade numbers are also marked on the stator so no need to worry about marking the rotor
Thanks for this. Have you had issues with these motors? Like a high leg on ground issue? I’m reading carrier had a revamp version of these ecm motors.
Really good video
Thank you so much
Thank you so much for this video.
You’re welcome 🤘🏻
Thanks
Any idea how I can get motor hc54jz231? Been on backorder for months.
Are you going to sigler for the motor? My local sigler has them stocked pretty well. They told me there furnace boards are what’s on a few month back orders. There commercial parts are well in stock.
So In my case the plug burned up somehow and I was thinking about bypassing getting a new motor and just wire but the wiring together. Can I do that or no?
@@Itsjustciah that will work just make sure you wire correctly. Since you’re going to cut the plugs off I would cut back a bit on the plug coming from the line/controls. That way when you get a new motor you can reuse the plug.
@@Itsjustciah the plugs are just fancy/expensive wire splice. 😂
@ somebody told me if I do that it can burn the board up. Is that true?
@@hvacslayer2929 well i think the motor is fine I hadn’t confirmed why the plug burned up but I was attempting to save money by just eliminating the plug and just wiring the wires together
@@Itsjustciah probably lose connection inside the plug on the high voltage side. The plug connection is just that it’s completing the wires together. The board sends signal to the motor to control speed.
The Ecoblue blowers are pretty cool but, I prefer the direct-drive squirrel cage with a Fasco or Marathon ECM motor.
I agree with you Mate!
100% with you! I love to be able to repair my equipment without ordering these OEM only very special and crazy expensive parts. One my customer is running the restaurant with no A/C (1.5 month old RTU) and that damn blower motor has to be shipped from the factory.. So, no A/C at that restaurant for 4-5 days…. At Memphis… with 97F outside….
Where can I get this motor
Your local sigler supply house.
Thank you so much for the video
Where did you order it from united, carrier, shop???
Sigler- Carrier supplier
Belt driven is way better with blower
@@zackdepalma6184 agreed 👍🏻
@@hvacslayer2929 I agree as well. These sound louder and seem to break down more often.
You need to make some money because you have to go to work😊