Professor Oak is behind the most ICONIC Pokemon Battle in history... Red vs Gold
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- Опубликовано: 9 мар 2023
- The real reason behind Pokemon's most iconic battle ever! Red vs Gold.
Explaining why Red was at mt.silver in pokemon generation 2.
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Oak: Red go on top of MT. Silver
Red: *proceeds to wait up there for two years*
Hmn i wonder how he not die of cold or low on food and water
@@khangphamnguyenbao4394 he’s got Charizard to keep him warm and Blastoise for water. Idk about the food part though, maybe he sends Pikachu out to get it 🤷♂️
Food he brought a bunch of milktanks for that. Beef. Milk.
@@snakey1315 beef-
The theory says that Oak told red to go to Mt Silver after Gold beat Blue.
Battling Red was the whole highlight of my Pokémon career.
Hypest moment for me for sure.
My Ho-oh came in clutch
Afro samarai
I purposely lost against him several times because I believe red is the ultimate trainer, and he should not be beat.
Next battle is GOLD... in the next game
Goku and Namona wishes they had a friend like Prof Oak.
Goku jus gonna have Zeno do another TOP tbh 💀
Wait do you mean nemona from Pokémon or that movie or did you spell it correctly and mean a person named namona
@@jcolelover_44
You have to be fair, Zeno was thinking of erasing every Universe so Goku actually saved.
Who's namona?
@@idekwhat1572it's actually nEmona, she's the rival of scarlet and violet
Gary with 10 badges was so wild to us 😂😂😂
True that 😂😂
But after the 2nd gen intro it made sense since kanto and johto both have a common league ~ Indigo League which totally gives up 16 gyms
@@_____aditya____ exactly. The good times, back before people said the words "Kanto". 🤣
@@Another14- I'm unable to clarify, are you mocking me? 🤨
@@_____aditya____ nah bro. I'm just stating memory. I'm being nostalgic
@@Another14- then fine 💀👍
Ironically, Professor Oak is the original idea of this, because in Gen 1, he was originally planned to be the true final boss after defeating the Champion, much like how Red became for Gen 2.
Of only they kept it! It's such a cool idea
@@ActivelyCurious They did: Professor Kuikui in Sun and Moon.
@@TheManInBlueFlamesyeah but he’s trash. Should’ve been the Masked Royale
@@kristian7160same person tho
@@ultraomenmurat9937 can’t be
Imagine if after the iconic '...' it turned out Red had frozen to death
...
That would be so dark-
Snow on mount silver?
You ever heard of the dark theory that he was going to kill himself because he had completed the Pokédex in Kanto and became the best then he goes to johto to see he has hasn’t completed the Pokédex and that’s why he was gonna kill himself 😂 ridiculous theory
I think Lorelei and Agatha put Red in an ice prison in the manga
As a kid I thought everytime I defeated red he would jump off the mountain.. but I guess he wasn't a sore loser.
YOOOO WTH
he just used an escape rope lel
@@Gyrokun i always thought red was in a cave that was lit up for some reason
Also whenever Gold defeats the elite 4 again, Red appears again for a battle. This is maybe stretching it a bit- but it's a fun headcanon. After their first fight Red and Gold agree to meet up every time after beating the elite 4 to test each other again.
Me who uses this method to grind my pokemon to lv 50
@@mohdsajidsiddique8607 broo💀
The original games you only battle red 1x. You can beat the elite 4 as many times as you want but you only get 1 shot at red.
@@exile6129I thought he reappears if you beat the elite 4 each time
@@jinx1599ablehe does
This theory makes a lot of sense since it would explain why Red just happened to be on top of a massive mountain for seemingly no reason.
MT. Silver has the highest wild level pokemons around. So probably for training purposes.
Oak was on top of Ash's mom meanwhile
@@Nippelzieher Wtf..
Red is the strongest trainer that time and basically he has nothing else to prove setting aside completing the Pokedex. He beat his rival, he completed the Kanto Region Pokedex (Idk if he completed in Johto) he is the reason why Giovanni left and abandoned Team Rocket.
He just there to find rest and peace after all the success he has made.
@@brba245 Oogway song plays
Red is the very best there ever was. He waits at the top of Mount Silver because he's the last "mountain" that you need to climb to be the best.
I just love how the elite 4 are usually OP and intimidating as heck in the anime/lore, but then you have the games where literally every single game, the elite 4 are demolished by a single 10yo with a max level starter and all the legendary Pokémon of the region 😅
yeah i mean you could always over level as well and just gigachad sweep tf out of all 5 of them
All pokemon protagonists are battle prodogies in canon. The average trainer can only level about 3 pokemon at a time.
That right there is why I wish they'd have an actual like... Meta Realistic Pokemon game. No 'planned' travel route, just events that happen as you hit certain progress points like side quests and main quests in Skyrim. Have pokemon that scale by region, etc. But the biggest thing, have trainer battles and particularly Gym Battles be IMPORTANT. Like it doesn't matter what Gym you go to first, the Gym leader has 6 Pokemon, all at like level 50, they are the leaders of their respective element and Gym, they'd be training constantly. They should be a CHALLENGE.
Moreso going up towards the Pokemon League, teams you face should be varied and full rosters. Ace trainers should be people who likely BEAT those gyms, teams of level 60 and higher, and the Elite Four? Level 90+ across the board, and the Champion, 6 x 100 you wanna win you can't over level and stomp. You have to EARN it.
@@OnimaruAnji game is for kids bro and game freak hasn't changed their formula once in two decades
@@noparkingnoparking I'm 40 years old, I've grown up playing Pokemon, I've played damn near every major installment. It's more than just a kids game, hell I'm likely pretty certain that MOST of their fanbase is 20+ it's just kid focused enough to continue to bring in MORE kids into the fanbase.
An adult focused Pokemon game would flourish, meta has existed since Pokemon Red, and a game that let's you make 'master' grade pokemon where you have access to their whole move list, rather than the 'four move limit' teams would open the battles playing field to a whole new level of combat and strategy. Pokemon has always been an 'easy to play, difficult to master' game, one that focuses on that Mastery to let long term fans geek out in a Pokemon 'World' rather than a new 'region' would be epic.
It's stated in the manga, that Red got hurt bad during his battle against the elite 4 (the manga is a lot more violent, it was not in any way, shape or form a battle like the games) and had to go to Mt. Silver because of the hotsprings there which could help him heal.
@rusttoyoung1912 which Pokemon manga is the best to read? I love manga and pokemon but never started any series, because there are so many.
@@ITSONSIGHT. the pokemon adventures manga - yes, that is the actual name - is the series that connects the various games and explains in game details that can seem odd.
E.g: people complain about Juan being weaker than Wallace, as eighth gym leader, in emerald - in the manga it's explained that by the time the player comes along, Wallace already beat Steven, but turned down the position of Champion, for the position of gym leader for personal reasons - no unnecessary spoilers - and only takes up the position because of Kyogre and Groudons rampage.
So, as a champion level trainer, it makes sense that Juan be weaker than Wallace.
It's a great series, because it really explores what living in a pokemon world would be like.
The battles aren't straightforward, there's some real shonen type tactics involved and the series is NOT afraid to get DARK on occasion.
Seriously, I'd highly recommend it if your looking for a more mature take on the pokemon formula - just give it a bit to get more serious. If you start from the 1st volume, it's when team Rocket shows up in Mt Moon that you start to realise, that this is NOT going to be like the games - the admin overseeing the operation makes sure of that.
I think this was because Lorelei froze Red iirc? Then he had to go to Mt. Silver to heal his wounds borrowing Blue's Charizard and Green's Blastoise in the process thats why he has all 3 starters there.
@@rusttoyoung1912what manga an chapter is this?
@@brba245 it's the Pokemon Adventures manga (yes, that is the actual title). Can't remember what chapter it is exactly, just that it's in the Johto saga - been a while since I've read it.
Pretty sure it's the chapter where Blue becomes Viridian City Gym Leader, though.
In the manga, Red is the one to actually apply for the job. However, towards the end of the issue, he becomes unable to catch his returning pokeball, a basic trainer action. Red is then forced to admit that ever since the Elite Four incident, where he was frozen solid in ice, he's been having trouble using his body correctly, due to his injuries, and thus cannot take the position as Gym Leader. Instead, Blue, who was in attendance takes the position on his behalf.
Meanwhile, Red goes to Mt Silver for healing (the springs there are renowned for their healing properties).
the most iconic battle is people smashing the a button against the truck
Red is indeed the best trainer he completed the pokedex,caught Mewtwo and had an insanely strong Charizard
@@SyedAli-gl7jqYeah but gold is strong trainer and gold doesn't defeat red its player who defeat red . In my opinion red is strongest trainer
@@Not_The_Tobirama_hindi red is leagues above gold this matchup is laughable and yes red is the strongest trainer ofc red is never defeated there is no indication that he lost cause there was no NPC talking about the battle as if that never happened I mean oak congratulated red when he beat blue in the games that means red indeed beat blue but no one was taking about gold vs red bc that battle doesn't have a canon outcome and it is confirmed in red's description but if they have a battle I am sure red would win bc he caught Mewtwo and all 3 legendary birds articuno, zapdos and moltres and his Charizard is stronger than gold's typhlosion bc it beat Mewtwo
@@SyedAli-gl7jq Take it easy you wrote a whole paragraph
@@SyedAli-gl7jq after this any gold fan will turn in red fan 😂 (just joke)
As a kid i job thought red lived on the mountain top
But you can literally go to Red's house and talk to his mom
@@t-bird6853 that doesn't mean he lives there. He got kicked out at 10 years old.
@@ryanambsdorf2859 He didn't get kicked out. He just left to start his Pokémon journey! What are you talking about?!
@@t-bird6853He became an adult at 10 and would get clapped by his mom everytime he would try to go back to his house
It was a trip to see your old character from the previous game as the final and most powerful trainer in the game. It made my RBY second playthrough more interesting knowing how things are gonna play out and change in just a couple years.
Words can't express how awesome it was to meet Red on top of Mt. Silver.
Good theory. It's wrong, but good theory
He'll definitely be in the world tournament
Oak: yo homie there someone who stronger than you
Red: bet I'll let you cook this one
There was also a theory (or was it true?) that the true objective of Oak's journey was to test out the other function of the Pokédex - being able to read Pokémon data such as their health and stats. Most other trainers do not have a Pokédex, and are therefore at a disadvantage when facing the Dex wielding characters.
Red was suffering from Alexander the Great syndrome. He wept for there were no more challenges for him to conquer
When you said that Red is looking for the strongest, I immedietly thought of Goku
The mangas explained why he was at mount moon.
Which is?
@@supremeraizen561 that he got hurt fighting the elite 4 and had heal in the hot springs. It doesn't really matter though since the manga isn't canon to the games
mount moon is completely different than mt silver????
Yea and the manga is vastly different than the games and it’s storylines are also not canon to the games either
U didn't answer the question
Every time hearing mt silver it gives me Shivers because of lost sliver creepy paste
Then gold lost to hilbert
Das why he’s the Goat, Goat!
Hilbert do be a menace after all that trauma he gave to team plasma
@@alastorthedemonslayer4257 Pokémon black and white were peak Pokémon
Can someone tell me when Hilbert fought gold
@@LRabbit71421 post game of black and white
Red would lose to gens 2-9 protagonist he literally just has Mewtwo as his legendary compared to others with literal titans & Gods and life and death 😂.
Ash wants to be the very best. Red is the very best
They are counterparts to one another. If you didn't see the last episodes of masters journey, let's just say, you might want to do that and correct your statment. 😅
@@trueredpanda1538not actually red is the og pokemon master
@@dragonballmaster8789 both red and ash was designed around each other, so how are they not counterparts?
@@trueredpanda1538 because ash is inspired from red bro🙃
@@dragonballmaster8789 then they are counterparts. 1 for the anime, 1 for the games. you just stated it yourself just now.
Or... Maybe Red was Doing some Grinding at Mt. Silver Because we Know Damn well he didnt get that level 88 Pikachu Naturally
Red is the best
The red battle in hg/ss is so damn hard. Truly the most iconic pokemon battle
But it could also be that professor oak made a big deal about red being champion that red needed to go to mt silver to get away from it all.
Not only was Gold a worthy opponent after beating Blue, he also beat Red. That is one hell of a feat.
Im not even mad at this theory its pretty damn good😁👍
That part you suggested about Atem being to dependent on Exodia would fit right in at Atem vs brainwashed Joey in Battle City.
Marik makes his rules for the duel for no Slifer as normal but also no Exodia and the duel proceeds as normal if not a bit worst with Atem’s over reliance on Exodia.
Ok But can we Talk about how fucking good Golds picture looked holy Jesus
This battle took me forever to win one of the most memorable moments in my childhood for sure
the background music gives vibes!
If you play Pokemon Red: Rocket Edition, this could have more dark undertones
As someone who played the rom hack, DEAR FUCKING GOD I was not prepared for 'THAT' thing to be revealed.
@infinity-gauntlet-made-of-5221 it's such a great twist and it's probably my favorite rom hack
@@CheeseWheelBAW The final fight was pretty cool. 10/10 game, would play again.
It was surprising to see a little ol Pikachu use volt tackle and one hit k.o. my lead pokemon.
actually in the manga Red was attacked by an ice attack that almost took his hand out and that's why Red went Mt.silver because there are hot springs there that can heal him.
This is my favorite Pokemon lore
I love how absolutely every animator associates the crystal/gold/silver protagonist with choosing cyndaquil while little me used to pick chikorita for like 5 runs-
They should make this battle happen in the origin stories
Manga says red was there because of the hot springs because he got hurt whilst fighting Lorili that made his hands and feet freeze every once in awhile if I remember correctly
I mean manga version of Red goes to Mt Silver in order to soak in springs that he was told could cure him from the numbness that he got when he was encased in ice from Lorelei.
“Yea Red go up on Mt. Silver. No you won’t need a jacket I think it’s supposed to be 78 today”
Red wearing Pikachu like a neck pillow. What an absolute Villain!
That MAY be true... but the reason is that Gold is a mischief and he saw that guy in the Indigo gate blocking his path.saying that he needs all 16 of them. He goes there helps going to Jotho faster and eventuwlly were able to pass that disk head and gone to Mt Silver and encounters Red, it was not exactly Professor Oak that orchs this
That was mind blowing and sick af, take my sub friend
Bro this old mad scientist was the biggest instigator in the entire franchise 💀💀
I always thought Red was there because of the monstrously strong wild pokemon there.
This makes a lot of sense though.
Oak DID seem like he was planning something.
This is why I love the Johto storyline
In manga red is on another level no one is near him 🤌🏻
I called him silver because I played Pokémon silver. I just realized his real name is Gold
His real name is Ethan after defeating red he known as gold
@@GamingDestruction-cm2mb so his name is both?
I liked Pedro‘s idea, that red was on mount silver to stop team rocket from crossing over to Kanto
i thought he was trying to find mew at the mt. silver
Pokemon adventures say that he was there to heal from an injury he sustained while fighting the bad guys (which villains in Pokemon Adventure are quite ruthless for an officially licensed pokemon manga thanks to the manga being created before pokemon became super duper family friendly).
But even without that, I think it makes sense for the best pokemon trainer to be where the strongest and rarest pokemon are.
ETHAN ITS FKING ETHAN
Better then red is dead and you fight his ghost
one of my fave Pokémon games
The heart hold n soul silver oh my GODS
truly the remakes of all time ✊🏼🔥
He wants to fight the strongest? That explains why he wasn’t in gen 3 4 & 6
I still wish we got a proper battle of Ash Vs Red
They knew that Ash wouldn’t stand a chance so they didn’t want Ash’s final battle to be a massacre on his end.
They are counterparts to one another. So if you look at it this way. Ash was destined for greatness inn the end. Because Red allreaddy was great.
@@hollowroxas4742 yes Red would easly beat ash
@@angeloparente8196wait for the z move, mega evolution and plot armour to kick in
@@angeloparente8196Ash already beat Blue/Gary in Gen 2, Now he is World Champ with Pokemons like Ash-Greninja, Mega Lucario, Melmetal, Solgaleo, and many staters of different regions.
blue was done dirtyyyyyyyyyyy :( he should have been stronger
Can they make a game with ash fight red or gold
Bro Ash is inspired of red
Gary is inspired of Blue
Ok
Gold don't know which he inspired in anime
Red actually conquers all of the regions.
I believe it hints at it in the sun and moon game, i forget exactly.
Prof oak: what's your name?
Red: ..........
Fun fact red go's on top of mount silver because it is said that everyone is too weak so he went there to become weaker
According to the pokemon adventures manga, Red was up at Mt. Silver to recover from a frostbite injury that he had recieved.
He on that grind
I always assumed that the reason why Red was in Mt. Moon was due to Mew. After completing the pokedex, he realized that Mewtwo came from Mew so Red searched for Mew in all of Kanto. He somehow got obsessed of trying to find and catch Mew that somehow he kind of lost his way which is why he didn't come back home in Pallet town and was not able to fulfill his duty as the champion of Kanto and Johto. His battle with Gold somehow made him snap into his senses and went back to his family and friends, ultimately deciding to go to another adventure around the world.
What would've been like if only eight regions existed in Pokemon? And if all came out together in 1996 as Gen 1's version-exclusive? Each with 250 unique species(2,000 in all) while all are easily catchable, even Mythicals. Multi-Trades are possible even on PC Boxes(and even on GameBoy). Catching em all is possible in each version without trading. But obtaining other regions' mons required other versions' but that's optional. Also, canonically, the protagonists are the first generation of Trainers and they're the world's first League Champions and Dex completionists. And Dex completion rewards are going to Mt. Silver and battle other protagonists(all share Red's theme song). And if the series ended after Gen 1. And every 20 years, there'd be a sequel, taking place 20 years later, and starred the protagonists' offsprings who'd follow their parents' footsteps, and eventually beat their parents on Mt. Silver(still with Red's theme song).
In the comic books, red was captired by lorelei and frozen around his hands and feet, evsn after he was freed the ice still affected him, according to their folklore Mt. Silver was a "magical" hotspring that could heal any sickness
That does somewhat explains it
Did you know that red would beat gold?Because it was never confirmed in either of the games if red or gold won because some people may not have beaten red,but looking at their morals experience and teams it turns out red would won
Actually the manga has a good explanation for this. if I remember correctly , red was injured after the events of fighting lance and was at mt.silver to heal ( there was a miracle hot spring or something there). Thus, he spent like three years there. According to the manga, I wouldn't say red is battle crazy or wants to be the best although , his talent is battling. I'd say green has a lot more to prove.
prof Oak tricked Ash so he doesn't interrupt Oak while having fun with Ash's momma
as a kid I thought reds team would be my own team from red version 😂
An anime with Red vs Jimmy would go extra hard
Professor Oak is secretly building an army of next gen Pokemon trainers to take over the world, just as his subordinate did years prior before the war that claimed 70% of the men in the world
I believe in the Pokémon Adventures manga, Red was on Mt. Silver because he was injured by a stray attack from Team Rocket and went to rehabilitate his hands.
This really makes me wonder… besides Red and Blue, most of the gym leaders/Champions, even Looker etc. making appearances other than their original debut in their respective games, it’s really funny that we’ve only seen Red appear in games like HGSS/BW2/USUM but never the other protagonists from the other games…
Like it would’ve been cool that instead of Red on top of Mt. Silver it could’ve been Lyra/Crystal, Green, May, Brendan, Dawn or Lucas… I don’t mind it being Red tho but I really would like to see the other protagonist make a return in the future… 😔😿💀✊🏼🔥
Gold: here tosses reds head to professor oak
Therefore he wasn't maxed out like some people say as Red wasn't on top of Mt. silver for 3 years like some of the player base thinks
Is gold a clone/cyborg thing as well?
nah, he's just chill like that
I think red is going to catch mew and he training to mount silver to catch mew but he didn't go until he become powerful enough to catch mew that why prof oak tell to Ethan that the most strongest trainer but the Battle red did not use his full Strength thought but it make red think that to be strongest is to find a trainer to same strength as him or a champion to catch mew
Are you okay?
@@DoubloonGoblin Maybe not
Oak be the true Michael Vick of the Pokemon world. Boii be setting up dog fights and raking in cash by betting on the match behind people's backs
I wiped him last time and my team was largely about ten levels lower
As a wise jackass once said, you don't become Champion without knowing how to spam full restores
I would love a game where it’s much like Skyrim but Pokémon, gen 4 graphics or whichever the player wants from whichever gen, then have the player go through the entirety of pokemon and it’s regions like ash did, have a level cap above 100, adding 100 levels per region or something of the sort. Or leave the previous team behind but allowing one of the party to stay and reducing their levels back to 5 or something when entering the next region. After all badges are collected and the Pokédex filled, and all side missions are completed then You fight the strongest, but amped to max all Pokémon available from all the regions you’ve been to, everything is on the table to fight, and maybe increasing the amount of Pokémon in a team specifically on those fights, like 8-10.
Remember that red is one of the few people who actually became a Pokemon champion canonically.
Yo Red Is Probably The Swaggiest Pokémon Character Of All Time
Reds nephew ash has had a life altering journey 😊.
I have read a theory that he’s there because of his snorlax. Snorlax’ are mountainous creatures who eats a lot, so Red needs the correct environment for his Pokémon’s health.
Honestly that's a really cool theory that Oak pushed Gold, so he would be a better challenge for Red.
The only problem i have with it is Oak telling Red going to Mt. Silver, as he doesn't get anything out of it. I think it's better for Red going to Silver on his own volition to train, and Oak does Red a favor unprompted by pushing Gold.
you need oak's permission to go there even you are champion.
I would love to see an anime battle between them
Oak's basically just a kingmaker
Whether or not i agree with vaush is dependent entirely on hos hair style at the time
I think technically when comparing all gym leaders and boss battles red is the 4th best trainer. The one thing that held his team back was pikachu. Someone did an entire video on who the strongest gym/boss battle ever. The team red used btw was his team in pokemon silver
I think red wanted to catch some legendary pokemon on top of the mountain and just died from freezing in the process
Red was def the hardest trainer I ever faced
RED is borderline CHARA.
No, I take it back.
RED is CHARA.