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FYI THE RING had all ready bonded with Golem so could not totally bond with Billbo. can only bond with one living being at a time. Death to replace that being with a new one.
I have some question ladies I am a hobbit fan well that's azogs son bolg and I know about beron the bear and I kinda love beron he is a good guy and he hates orcs and goblins and anything and he loves his animals it's in the book of the Hobbit and you will see the elf king and his son legolas and you will see bard the bow man and saruron and smaug and I like how kili loves that female elf name tauriel and everyone been talking her like she's not in the book or the movie I will say it doesn't matter at least I care her she deserves to be in the movie she is bad ass IDC what people say about it
*”His teeth are swords, his claws are spears, his scales are shields, his wings are a hurricane, his tail is a thunderbolt, and his breath is death”.* That is how Smaug is exactly described in the book, and that’s exactly what Smaug feels like in this movie.
Fili and Kili are Thorin's nephews, their mother was his sister, and he swore to her he'd look after them. Since Thorin does not have a son, Fili is his closest male relative and therefore his heir.
and by the way: in many early societies, the sister's children were traditionally the king's heirs. The mother was always a secure lineage - in contrast to the father, who could in principle be anyone.
I don’t think this really spoils anything. In the first lotr movie when they go through Moria and fine gimli’s cousin slain. His cousin is balin the white bearded dwarf 😢
Benedict Cumberbatch said he wanted to play Smaug more than anyone because he grew up on The Hobbit. But he was given even more by Peter Jackson when he asked Ben to also voice Sauron The Necromancer. Also Benedict made the absolute right call (and yes it was his idea not Peter Jackson’s) to play Smaug not just with his voice, but with performance capture. His body and facial expressions gave so much life to Smaug and made him so much more terrifying.
In the book the necromancer was at one point going to be its own character but he later decided to just make it souron in Desigues as he re gathers his power - its cool reveal
Thorin, born in T.A. 2746, was 195 years old at the time and the oldest of the Dwarves in the Company. In the movies his age has been changed and he is portrayed as a fairly young looking Dwarf. The fact that he is present at the Sacking of Erebor means he must be at least 171 years old (+ his age at the time of the sacking) in the movies. Balin, born in T.A. 2763, was 178 years old and the eldest of the Dwarves after Thorin. In the movies he is portrayed as an old Dwarf, very likely older than Thorin. He must also be slightly older than in the book where he is 7 years old at the time of the Sacking of Erebor. Dwalin, born in T.A. 2772, was 169 years old at the time. Óin, born in T.A. 2774, was 167 years old at the time. Glóin, born in T.A. 2783, was 158 years old at the time. Fíli, born in T.A. 2859, was 82 years old at the time. Kíli, born in T.A. 2864, was 77 years old at the time. The age of Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, Dori, Nori and Ori has been left unknown. However, we know that Balin was the eldest of the Dwarves after Thorin and that Fíli and Kíli were the youngest “by some fifty years”. This would put their age between 132 and 178 years at the time of the quest. Bilbo Baggins, born on 22 September T.A. 2890, was 50 years when they set out on the quest but turned 51 before they reached the Lonely Mountain. Gandalf is just really, really old and has been around since the beginning of the world. Lord of the rings: Eowyn 24 Eomer 28 Pippin 29 Faramir 36 Merry 37 Samwise 39 Boromir 41 Frodo 51 Theoden 71 Aragorn 88 Denethor 89 Bilbo 129 Gimli 140 Older The Lord of the Rings Characters: Gollum about 589 Arwen 2901 Legolas 2931* Elrond 6000+ Galadriel 7000 Gandalf (Olórin) Unknown Saruman (Curumo) Unknown Radagast (Aiwendil) Unknown Alatar and Pallando Unknown Balrog Unknown Eru Oldest being - Age unknown
And Legolas (Arwen also) is about 3000 years old, so he is not that old compare to Elrond, Galadriel or his father (Thranduil). They are about 6-7 thosand years old.
21:44 I think it was trying to convey Bilbo's horror at the unwarranted ferocity with which he killed a creature that was at that point doing him no harm. Whether he realises that it was the influence of the ring in this moment is unlikely, especially as we know he kept the ring long into his future.
Correct, he realized that this ring wasn’t a normal magic ring, it had made him “as you said” kill something that had no desire to hurt him all because he feared it would be taken from him…
Kili and Fili are the nephews of Thorin. "Sister-sons"; meaning the sons of Thorin's sister. Gandalf chose a hobbit because hobbits have a special ability - they can go unseen by "big folk" if they choose to. In the book of the hobbit, tolkien expressly says that hobbits still exist but we cant see them because they choose not to be seen. That applies to all hobbits, which is partly why frodo, sam, pip and merry, are not seen by others in various situations. Basically, hobbits are very hard to see if they dont want to be seen. So Gandalf wanted a hobbit, but he chose Bilbo because Bilbo's mother was from the Took family (like Pippin) and the Took family were famous for their boldness, courage, size (among hobbits), and their sense of adventure. Gandalf had kept an eye on bilbo from the time bilbo was a small boy. And yes Aragorn is alive during this story. But he is up north of the shire fighting the orcs and the servants of the wizard king of angmar, who have destroyed his father's kingdom of Arnor - Isildur was never the king of Gondor; he was the king of Arnor, north of the Shire. Isildur's brother was the king of Gondor and when the last descendant of Isildur's brother disappeared in the morgul vale while fighting the witch king for minas ithil/morgul, the line of the king's of Gondor ended and Isildur's heirs became the heirs to the throne of Gondor. That's why everyone believes the line of kings of Gondor is broken - Aragorn remained hidden (even to himself, since he wasnt initially told who he was - that bit is straight out of the legend of King Arthur). Aragorn also fought for Gondor as a young man and fought alongside Theoden's grandfather in Rohan, each time under an alias and staying unknown. Aragorn knew who Frodo was because he had been secretly watching over the shire and defending its borders from the evil to the north - alongside Elrond's two sons and with Gandalf's help - for a very long time. Aragorn lives something like 350 years or so. There are lots of easter eggs in these movies: 1 the trolls frozen into stone - in the fellowship, after Frodo is stabbed you see them, where Arwen arrives. In the extended version, Sam points out "mr bilbo's trolls" to frodo. 2 Balin - Lord of Moria. In the tomb in the room in Moria, where frodo is stabbed by the cave troll (there are several others of Thorin's companions in that room but only Balin, son of Frundig, is named there). 3 Gimli, son of Gloin. Im pretty sure you see Gloin again at the council of Elrond, next to Gimli. 4 Bilbo names "sting" - the sword he hands on to Frodo in the fellowship. - and a few others that would be spoilers if I mention them now.
The White Gems of Lasgalen (of pure starlight) were crafted by the Dwarves of Erebor for the Elven-queen of Mirkwood (Thranduil's wife, Legolas' mother), but she died in Gundabad before she could wear them. Thranduil later tried to reclaim the gems, but a dispute over payment led the Dwarves to refuse, breaking their alliance with him. Thus, the gems have significant personal and cultural importance to Thranduil. By the way, he was portrayed by Lee Pace who does a phenomenal job (as always). Another movie of his that I would highly recommend is The Fall (2006) which is pure feast for the eyes. Lee's performance in The Fall made Peter Jackson consider him in the role of King Thranduil.
@mattr1100 it's their job to talk about what they're watching. This isn't a rebroadcast of the movie with people making faces on a green screen. They discuss what's happening, how hey feel about it, what they like and don't understand. This has been the case for all of their reactions. If that's not what you want then you don't have to watch.
Weird to think that Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos and like 30 other real life people have hoarded more wealth than Smaug, a metaphorical representation of avarice and evil. Weird and sad
It's not a perfect movie but it's certainly my favourite movie in the entire The Hobbit trilogy. I actually put it in my honourable mention as one of the best movies of 2013. Ed Sheeran's song in the end credits was pretty sweet, wish it was nominated for Best Original Score so Ed could've performed it at the Oscars
the stone graves at 36:58 .. Gandalf said "these are nine stone graves.. They were great men..The nine.. How couldn't you remember them?... Nazgul's ... Servant nine of Sauron.. The Necromancer is of course Sauron..
Are elves are immortal. Aragon is a Numenorion so his people can live into their hundreds. That said, Aragon does have Elvish in his bloodline. It’s only humans who have “the gift of death“
at 21:43 Bilbo realize that he was unnaturally so savage while he kills that baby spider.. Normally he could terrified from it..But the fear of losing the ring made him so savage and brave.. He just realized that ring effected to himself and he shocked for this info... That's what you saw at 21:43
The elves in this story live for thousands of years, for instance Galadriel is a little over 8,000 years old. Galadriel is also the most powerful elf in middle earth at this point. And Aragorn is a race of men named dúnadan that live way longer than normal humans. The Dúunadan usually live for a few hundred years in the extended versions Aragorn tells Eowyn that he is 87 years old at the time of the 2 towers.
"One of a number. One of nine" Right over their head. "The Nine only answer to one master." Tara - "Necromancer?" Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight over their heads. These people do not have a clue what "The Nine" are. But they want the names of the dwarves. Which they've already been given.
Honestly, my favorite part of this movie was Benedict Cumberbatch as Smaug. How am I supposed to take that character seriously when he moves and talks like that? 😅
Elves are (immortal). They can live forever... but they can be killed. Also, Strider was already 87 years old in Lord of the Rings. His ancestors were Dúnedain, who lived three times as long as average humans.
54:20 Fili and Kili are brothers. Cousins to Thorin. Balin and Dwalin are also brothers. Oin and Gloin are brothers. Nori and Dori are brothers and their cousin is Ori. Bofur and Bombur are brothers and their cousin is Bifur.
Aragorn is a descendant from Numenor. They were granted longer life spans as a reward for helping the Valar during the war of wrath. They could live to be 400. They're also descendants of elves (Elrond's brother), but this is unrelated to their long lifespans. I just thought it would be fun to point out that Aragorn and Arwen are technically distant cousins.
I love you ladies so much! ❤ They did explain who Fili & Kili are, you guys were just talking when they did. Hahaha 😅 They've said how they are Thorin's nephews, they are his sister's twin sons. He didn't call them his kids...he called them his kin. 😂 Loving this journey with the two of you! ❤😊
If you go by J.R.R. Tolkien's work, Aragorn is 10 years old and living in Imladris (Rivendell) with his mother at the time of this part of the story. According to Peter Jackson's rendition of Tolkien's work Aragorn is 27. Legolas would be 2,854 at this time in the story according to J.R.R. Tolkien. Peter Jackson omitted 17 years from Tolkien's original story in Lord of the Rings, which explains the discrepancy. Elves can be killed, or die from injuries, but otherwise elves are immune to disease and immortal. Galadriel is the oldest elf in Peter Jackson's movies. At the time of the Hobbit story Galadriel was 7,707 years old.
Dragons have genius level intelligence, live for a very, very long time and throw spells like a Magic-user aka Wizard. Alignments vary with their color.
It was such a smart idea to hide Smaug’s look from all promos and posters of this movie until after release. I remember seeing it in IMAX and the truly AWESOME and terrifying it was when he fully revealed himself. And because it was shot with the same 3D cameras James Cameron used for Avatar, seeing it in IMAX 3D was truly mind blowing.
29:57 There were many magic rings in the world but only the rings of power had the levels of strength they had. Gandalf initially believed Bilbo had a magical ring but not the one ring since Bilbo never shared what it could do other than be invisible.
at 1:01:07 The dworf want Bard to bring King's foil herb.. You remembered that herb? When Frodo stabbed by a Nazgul, Aragorn want Sam to find King's foil.. Same plant... :D Also I loved that joke that you missed at 1:01:09 "Dont move Kili"... Hahah bro, he is kind of paralyzed.. He already cant move :D At least he cant walk.. Where will he go :D
Unfortunately the stubborness of dwarves is very real in Middle earth. Stubborness is an annoying trait to have but when you think Gimli was also stubborn, you still love the dwarves as characters 😅 its part of who they are ❤
Aragorn was 87 by the Two Towers movie, he lived to be 210 ish (if memory serves). During the Hobbit, he would've been a young 27 year old. He comes from the line of Numenorians, an ancient race of humans who fought with the elves in the first age against the first evil, Morgoth (Saurons boss), and as a gift they were given a big island in the ocean as well as the gift of extended lifespans.
As someone who grew up around them. The few that are cuddly are rare. More than once a caw has just decided to try and kill me. Specially if they have a calf. Edit: There was one bull who's mother was sick when he was just a little calf. He was raised and fed by hand because others would reject him. Problem was when he grew up. He thought he could play like normal. Ended up destroying equipment and even once tossed a bale of hay over the fence injuring my cousin. You couldn't be alone with him because he would kill you while trying to play.
@@martinsparks6231 We've had city people think the could get in and pet or take photos with horses or cattle not friendly to them. Another hit a deer and thought they could comfort it. Got put in a hospital. Hooves are deadly
At 54:40 he said "KIN" not "KID" KIN: A person's relatives. Kinsman or kinswoman. A group of persons tracing or claiming descent from a common ancestor, constituting a family, clan, tribe, or race. Someone or something of the same or similar kind.
So glad you guys started this series! It's going to be a wild ride. It was crazy watching this in 48fps in theaters. They never released a version like that again but it was quite unique. Made the cgi look better but it was over a decade ago it's hard to remember.
Q: "How did you learn what a Dragon sounds like?" A: I grew up with a Dark Disney movie called, DRAGONSLAYER, featuring Vermithrax Perjorative. She was the most badass dragon to ever grace the silver screen.
Has anyone yet praised Roxy's diligence and dedication shown by taking notes? This is my favorite film of The Hobbit trilogy. Some of the best action scenes of the franchise, like that river rapids chase and fighting a Dragon.
If you try cuddling with a cow you will probably end up being a death by cow. They panic if you are in the wrong place because they can't see and will kick. Bolg is actually the spawn of Azog, his son. Left out of the movie is the highly trained dogs that Beorn had that could walk on their hind legs and do household chores like serving food. 15:44 when Bilbo looks back the head it shows is actually, Dominic, aka Merry from LOTR. In a special feature on the extended edition you see them filming that scene and he's standing there in Bilbo's costume in position as Martin Freeman is getting ready.
Honestly the first time I saw the barrell scene I hated it, just seemed so cartoony and silly compared to the gritty action of lotr. I was also prejudiced cos pretty sure that scene wasn't in the book. But seeing you two love it made me appreciate it more.
It took a couple viewings to get the other dwarves characters names. It maybe one of the most challenging parts of the film adaptation. Fili and Kiki are mentioned as brothers when they get it Bilbos place. I don’t recall if they mention of being Thorin’s nephews until this one. As children to one of Thorin’s sisters they would inherit the crown. Now I assume this is because there are no one male heirs and if it’s like British tradition it would pass down the next males unless Thorin had a son. The barrel fight maybe one of my favorite fights in Cinemax. It was so creative with humor and suspense while making it unique at the same time.
Being someone who’s read everything from this universe, Peter Jackson really did accomplish the impossible with these films. He really did capture lightning in a bottle with these stories, in the format of film, and they used every film technique in the book to accomplish this. I think it’s important to remember also not to get frustrated at people who have not read the books, to think that they could possibly understand everything in these films is not reasonable. I mean Sauron alone had about nine different names in the books, names that mean different things for different reasons. I thoroughly enjoy watching people enjoy these films for what they are, regardless of what level of knowledge they bring to this universe.
So the reason you see Thranduil face turn is in fact is real face covered by elvin magic. He was one of the first elves to reach middle after their civil war in the undying lands call the Kin Slaying. Most of the elves were forced to leave the west and go east to middle earth and settle. Thranduil was left scared in the First Age after a major war with orcs, dragons and other foul dark creatures of the North Middle Earth where he and his kin of elves took up settlement.
While I am glad that the hobbit movies show us more of the dwarfs and the Greenwood elves (aka Mirkwood elves, aka Woodland elves), one needs to know more about the lore to fully understand them and their behaviour. In the intro to the Fellowship of the rings one could see a battle of the war of the last alliance (men and elves resisting Sauron and marching against Mordor). What was not shown was that Greenwood elves under king Oropher (Thranduil's father, Legolas' grandfather) were participating as well in that battle. To make it short, they did not really want to fight under the elven High King Gil-Galad, so they charged before the rest of the armies, were cut off and then utterly destroyed in the marshes near Mordor. Those marshes were filled with thousands of bodies and later became known as the "dead marshes". At the time of the ring wars Gollum lead Frodo and Sam through the dead marshes, where they could still see those dead bodies from 3000 years ago. The aftermath of this disaster was that the Greenwood elves under now king Thranduil did not want to participate in any war anymore. And whenever they were threatened in their realm, they would rather evade/move than fight. This explains to some degree why Thranduil would not help the dwarfs when they were attacked and risk the wrath of Smaug, this explains also to some degree why we haven't seen any Greenwood elves in the LOTR movies besides the representatives at the secret counsel in Rivendell and Legolas ofc.
In the lore of lotr Gandalf, Saruman, Sauron, and the Balrog(s) all belong to a caste of what are essentially lower tier angels called Miar. Sauron and the Balrog(s) were the first Dark lord's chief lieutenants of which Sauron was the greatest. Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, and the two blue wizards are sent to Middle Earth to work against Sauron in the early years of the third age (which begins after the opening battle of the first lotr film). However, the wizards are not supposed to unveil their full power to directly interfere with the affairs of Middle Earth, rather they are primarily there to advise and organize the free peoples against Sauron. This is also why the wizards take the forms of old men despite their spirit's being immortal, they took these appearances as a way to appear wise and trustworthy to the people they were meant to guide, without seeming threatening or overly powerful. In fact, very few individuals are actually aware of the true nature of the Wizards, essentially only the members of the White Council knew (Galadriel, Elrond, Cirdan the Shipwright). Going back to their true power, the battle with the Balrog is one of the few times we see "Gandalf the Grey uncloaked" the wizards would be able to kill almost every being in Middle Earth in single combat with relative ease save for the other Miar, a select few elves still present from the first age, and possibly the unnamed things such as The Watcher in The Water ((squid monster from FOTR) such little is known about them just wanted to mention it). Dragons would also likely be a difficult task, but there's enough examples of them being killed or mortally wounded by elves, men, and dwarves that you can probably make the presumption that Gandalf could kill one given the right circumstances.
Y’all are gonna freak about Galadriel in the Battle of the Five Armies. You actually find out how powerful she is. My favorite scene of the Hobbit movies.
Thranduil is played by Lee Pace who was also in Breaking Dawn part 2. He’s plays Carlisle’s friend Garrett: he is the vampire that gets with Kate (she radiates energy from her hands)
Don’t recall how old Legolas is in LOTR, but Arwen is around 2800 years old when she married Aragorn. He was around 80 at the time of the marriage. So he’d be in his 20’s at this point in time I think.
The reason bilbo looked so sick was because he was about to break down after killing an innocent what seemed to be baby spider for the ring. Which it did not even want.
They mention in Lord of the Rings Extended Edition that Aragorn is 60 something years old at that time, so Aragorn should be around 4 years old at The Hobbit's timeline
So a lot of people here have already said Aragorns age, however no one can say how old Legolas is, it's estimated to be somewhere around 2000+ years old. However an exact age cannot be made.
In the Extended Cut of Either Two Towers or ROTK Aragorn said he was in his 80's when he spoke to Aowen. So during the events of the Hobbit he has to be in his 20's
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FYI THE RING had all ready bonded with Golem so could not totally bond with Billbo. can only bond with one living being at a time. Death to replace that being with a new one.
Hope Roxy can remember the question she as in the first movie because it will be answer here same for Tara comment as well let's goooooo
I have some question ladies I am a hobbit fan well that's azogs son bolg and I know about beron the bear and I kinda love beron he is a good guy and he hates orcs and goblins and anything and he loves his animals it's in the book of the Hobbit and you will see the elf king and his son legolas and you will see bard the bow man and saruron and smaug and I like how kili loves that female elf name tauriel and everyone been talking her like she's not in the book or the movie I will say it doesn't matter at least I care her she deserves to be in the movie she is bad ass IDC what people say about it
Roxy, Tara is right about the cow comment she's talking about
The man playing the elf king also Ronin the Destroyer from Gardians of the Galaxy.
*”His teeth are swords, his claws are spears, his scales are shields, his wings are a hurricane, his tail is a thunderbolt, and his breath is death”.* That is how Smaug is exactly described in the book, and that’s exactly what Smaug feels like in this movie.
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I read this in the tune of “Their bones are their money, so are the worms…” I don’t know who will get this reference.
Indeed @thedarkknight2221
Fili and Kili are Thorin's nephews, their mother was his sister, and he swore to her he'd look after them. Since Thorin does not have a son, Fili is his closest male relative and therefore his heir.
Ditto
yup and just to clarify what Thorin says "My sister son's" ergo nephew
Yes Uncle Thorin, Thorin had no kids so by blood Fili and Kili are the bloodline for royalty.
and by the way: in many early societies, the sister's children were traditionally the king's heirs. The mother was always a secure lineage - in contrast to the father, who could in principle be anyone.
I don’t think this really spoils anything. In the first lotr movie when they go through Moria and fine gimli’s cousin slain. His cousin is balin the white bearded dwarf 😢
Benedict Cumberbatch said he wanted to play Smaug more than anyone because he grew up on The Hobbit. But he was given even more by Peter Jackson when he asked Ben to also voice Sauron The Necromancer.
Also Benedict made the absolute right call (and yes it was his idea not Peter Jackson’s) to play Smaug not just with his voice, but with performance capture. His body and facial expressions gave so much life to Smaug and made him so much more terrifying.
le traitement audio est hallucinant...🙃
The "Necromancer" IS Sauron.
In the book the necromancer was at one point going to be its own character but he later decided to just make it souron in Desigues as he re gathers his power - its cool reveal
Thorin, born in T.A. 2746, was 195 years old at the time and the oldest of the Dwarves in the Company. In the movies his age has been changed and he is portrayed as a fairly young looking Dwarf. The fact that he is present at the Sacking of Erebor means he must be at least 171 years old (+ his age at the time of the sacking) in the movies.
Balin, born in T.A. 2763, was 178 years old and the eldest of the Dwarves after Thorin. In the movies he is portrayed as an old Dwarf, very likely older than Thorin. He must also be slightly older than in the book where he is 7 years old at the time of the Sacking of Erebor.
Dwalin, born in T.A. 2772, was 169 years old at the time.
Óin, born in T.A. 2774, was 167 years old at the time.
Glóin, born in T.A. 2783, was 158 years old at the time.
Fíli, born in T.A. 2859, was 82 years old at the time.
Kíli, born in T.A. 2864, was 77 years old at the time.
The age of Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, Dori, Nori and Ori has been left unknown. However, we know that Balin was the eldest of the Dwarves after Thorin and that Fíli and Kíli were the youngest “by some fifty years”. This would put their age between 132 and 178 years at the time of the quest.
Bilbo Baggins, born on 22 September T.A. 2890, was 50 years when they set out on the quest but turned 51 before they reached the Lonely Mountain.
Gandalf is just really, really old and has been around since the beginning of the world.
Lord of the rings:
Eowyn 24
Eomer 28
Pippin 29
Faramir 36
Merry 37
Samwise 39
Boromir 41
Frodo 51
Theoden 71
Aragorn 88
Denethor 89
Bilbo 129
Gimli 140
Older The Lord of the Rings Characters:
Gollum about 589
Arwen 2901
Legolas 2931*
Elrond 6000+
Galadriel 7000
Gandalf (Olórin) Unknown
Saruman (Curumo) Unknown
Radagast (Aiwendil) Unknown
Alatar and Pallando Unknown
Balrog Unknown
Eru Oldest being - Age unknown
What about Tom bombardill?
@@MrBoyYankee He is an enigma. A very old enigma.
i ain’t reading all that
Thorin actually wasn't at Erebor that day, neither was Balin. That's a movie change.
Bree is literally the town the hobbits went to to meet up with Gandolf in the Fellowship
Aragorn is 87 in the Lord of the Rings, I believe. He is a descendant of a special group of men who were gifted unnaturally long lives by the gods.
Dúnedain, their blessed with longer lives and keener senses somewhat similar to the elves
Not "unnaturally" the Numenoreans were blessed with long life it is as natural for them as it is for dwarves and elves.
And Legolas (Arwen also) is about 3000 years old, so he is not that old compare to Elrond, Galadriel or his father (Thranduil). They are about 6-7 thosand years old.
They are the Dunedain, they are descended from a line of Numenoreans
@@paulkorablev8800depending on how long the years of trees were, Galadriel could be double that in age.
You have seen bree. They went there at the beginning of the fellowship, the prancing pony pub
21:44 I think it was trying to convey Bilbo's horror at the unwarranted ferocity with which he killed a creature that was at that point doing him no harm.
Whether he realises that it was the influence of the ring in this moment is unlikely, especially as we know he kept the ring long into his future.
Correct, he realized that this ring wasn’t a normal magic ring, it had made him “as you said” kill something that had no desire to hurt him all because he feared it would be taken from him…
I thought he was reminded of Gollum saying „Mine“ like him and struck by fear he‘s becoming like him.
Who is your FAVORITE Dragon in Cinema???
Toothless, Mushu - Mulan, Draco - Dragonheart 1,2,3
Dragontales for nostalgia if TV shows were allowed
Toothless. Period.
Smaug for movies, but if shows are included Thordak.
Draco cause I was named after Sean Connery. True story
Smaug is the greatest dragon ever
Kili and Fili are the nephews of Thorin. "Sister-sons"; meaning the sons of Thorin's sister.
Gandalf chose a hobbit because hobbits have a special ability - they can go unseen by "big folk" if they choose to. In the book of the hobbit, tolkien expressly says that hobbits still exist but we cant see them because they choose not to be seen. That applies to all hobbits, which is partly why frodo, sam, pip and merry, are not seen by others in various situations. Basically, hobbits are very hard to see if they dont want to be seen. So Gandalf wanted a hobbit, but he chose Bilbo because Bilbo's mother was from the Took family (like Pippin) and the Took family were famous for their boldness, courage, size (among hobbits), and their sense of adventure. Gandalf had kept an eye on bilbo from the time bilbo was a small boy.
And yes Aragorn is alive during this story. But he is up north of the shire fighting the orcs and the servants of the wizard king of angmar, who have destroyed his father's kingdom of Arnor - Isildur was never the king of Gondor; he was the king of Arnor, north of the Shire. Isildur's brother was the king of Gondor and when the last descendant of Isildur's brother disappeared in the morgul vale while fighting the witch king for minas ithil/morgul, the line of the king's of Gondor ended and Isildur's heirs became the heirs to the throne of Gondor. That's why everyone believes the line of kings of Gondor is broken - Aragorn remained hidden (even to himself, since he wasnt initially told who he was - that bit is straight out of the legend of King Arthur). Aragorn also fought for Gondor as a young man and fought alongside Theoden's grandfather in Rohan, each time under an alias and staying unknown. Aragorn knew who Frodo was because he had been secretly watching over the shire and defending its borders from the evil to the north - alongside Elrond's two sons and with Gandalf's help - for a very long time. Aragorn lives something like 350 years or so.
There are lots of easter eggs in these movies:
1 the trolls frozen into stone - in the fellowship, after Frodo is stabbed you see them, where Arwen arrives. In the extended version, Sam points out "mr bilbo's trolls" to frodo.
2 Balin - Lord of Moria. In the tomb in the room in Moria, where frodo is stabbed by the cave troll (there are several others of Thorin's companions in that room but only Balin, son of Frundig, is named there).
3 Gimli, son of Gloin. Im pretty sure you see Gloin again at the council of Elrond, next to Gimli.
4 Bilbo names "sting" - the sword he hands on to Frodo in the fellowship.
- and a few others that would be spoilers if I mention them now.
The White Gems of Lasgalen (of pure starlight) were crafted by the Dwarves of Erebor for the Elven-queen of Mirkwood (Thranduil's wife, Legolas' mother), but she died in Gundabad before she could wear them. Thranduil later tried to reclaim the gems, but a dispute over payment led the Dwarves to refuse, breaking their alliance with him. Thus, the gems have significant personal and cultural importance to Thranduil. By the way, he was portrayed by Lee Pace who does a phenomenal job (as always). Another movie of his that I would highly recommend is The Fall (2006) which is pure feast for the eyes. Lee's performance in The Fall made Peter Jackson consider him in the role of King Thranduil.
"they never told us any of this". They told you all of this in Bilbo's house
God I can't stand Roxy's lack of intelligence.
@@kaano1992 I don't understand why you're watching and commenting on a reaction video featuring a person you can't stand...?
that's because they are too busy talking instead of paying attention
@mattr1100 it's their job to talk about what they're watching. This isn't a rebroadcast of the movie with people making faces on a green screen. They discuss what's happening, how hey feel about it, what they like and don't understand.
This has been the case for all of their reactions. If that's not what you want then you don't have to watch.
@@BallisticTech bro they are clueless.. its as if they don't even watch with how much they don't know
Orlando Bloom is actually older than the actor who plays Legolas’s father
LEE PACE plays King Thranduil. Great underrated actor.
He was Ronan in Guardians of the Galaxy.
King Thanduil is the bad guy in Gaurdians and thats amazing
The origin of Beorn....
Them: "Mr. Tolkien, If alone in the woods, would you rather cross-paths with a random man or random bear?"
Tolkien: "...yes."
"Kin" not "kid" lol. I know that some people hate subtitles but for stuff like this with all the weird names and archaic vocabulary it might help
Smaug is still technically the richest character in all of fiction. He’s estimated to have around 62 billion dollars in his treasure collection…
But the gold is not his....
Scrooge McDuck has more than anyone.
@@y4uriteme I was just about to bring this up, no one has more money than good old scrooge McDuck.
Really? the Gold isn't his, Scrooge McDuck on the other hand
Weird to think that Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos and like 30 other real life people have hoarded more wealth than Smaug, a metaphorical representation of avarice and evil. Weird and sad
It's not a perfect movie but it's certainly my favourite movie in the entire The Hobbit trilogy. I actually put it in my honourable mention as one of the best movies of 2013. Ed Sheeran's song in the end credits was pretty sweet, wish it was nominated for Best Original Score so Ed could've performed it at the Oscars
the stone graves at 36:58 .. Gandalf said "these are nine stone graves.. They were great men..The nine.. How couldn't you remember them?... Nazgul's ... Servant nine of Sauron.. The Necromancer is of course Sauron..
Are elves are immortal. Aragon is a Numenorion so his people can live into their hundreds. That said, Aragon does have Elvish in his bloodline. It’s only humans who have “the gift of death“
So happy to see people love the barrels, because it gets so much unfair hate. Sure the go pro was a bad idea but the choreography was so much fun
at 21:43 Bilbo realize that he was unnaturally so savage while he kills that baby spider.. Normally he could terrified from it..But the fear of losing the ring made him so savage and brave.. He just realized that ring effected to himself and he shocked for this info... That's what you saw at 21:43
Those cloacks are not Hobbit's, they are a gift from the Elfs (Galadriel's kingdom) from Loth Lorien. So they are elven cloaks.
And they didn’t have them till LOTR so it’s a complete red herring!
The elves in this story live for thousands of years, for instance Galadriel is a little over 8,000 years old. Galadriel is also the most powerful elf in middle earth at this point. And Aragorn is a race of men named dúnadan that live way longer than normal humans. The Dúunadan usually live for a few hundred years in the extended versions Aragorn tells Eowyn that he is 87 years old at the time of the 2 towers.
Smaug is definitely one of my favourite movie dragons and I think they did a really good job designing him
By the way, kin just means family, as in the whole family tree. Doesn't always mean direct family, as in father and his sons.
Lee Pace is his name. Phenomenal actor.
Can confirm
"One of a number. One of nine"
Right over their head.
"The Nine only answer to one master."
Tara - "Necromancer?"
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight over their heads.
These people do not have a clue what "The Nine" are. But they want the names of the dwarves. Which they've already been given.
1:03:26 Sauron and Gandalf are from the same race, the Maiar, they are demigods of which Sauron is the most powerful.
Honestly, my favorite part of this movie was Benedict Cumberbatch as Smaug. How am I supposed to take that character seriously when he moves and talks like that? 😅
Hearing the voice in theaters was amazing.
Watching him do the mo-cap for Smaug is pretty cool.
Elves are (immortal). They can live forever... but they can be killed.
Also, Strider was already 87 years old in Lord of the Rings. His ancestors were Dúnedain, who lived three times as long as average humans.
54:20 Fili and Kili are brothers. Cousins to Thorin.
Balin and Dwalin are also brothers. Oin and Gloin are brothers. Nori and Dori are brothers and their cousin is Ori. Bofur and Bombur are brothers and their cousin is Bifur.
The best of the Hobbit trilogy, thanks in large part to Smaug, and Peter Jackson giving Bard a backstory.
Too bad he made Bard into another Aragorn.
19:44 The sword is Which Bilbo gave to Frodo.. The Sting.. I'm shocked that you didnt recognize it..
I’m surprised they didn’t recognise it when it was glowing blue in the last movie lol 😂
Aragorn is a descendant from Numenor. They were granted longer life spans as a reward for helping the Valar during the war of wrath. They could live to be 400. They're also descendants of elves (Elrond's brother), but this is unrelated to their long lifespans. I just thought it would be fun to point out that Aragorn and Arwen are technically distant cousins.
Benedict Cumberbatch did the motion capture for Smaug. You should check out the behind the scenes video. It’s pretty amusing to watch!
I love you ladies so much! ❤
They did explain who Fili & Kili are, you guys were just talking when they did. Hahaha 😅
They've said how they are Thorin's nephews, they are his sister's twin sons. He didn't call them his kids...he called them his kin. 😂
Loving this journey with the two of you! ❤😊
If you go by J.R.R. Tolkien's work, Aragorn is 10 years old and living in Imladris (Rivendell) with his mother at the time of this part of the story. According to Peter Jackson's rendition of Tolkien's work Aragorn is 27. Legolas would be 2,854 at this time in the story according to J.R.R. Tolkien. Peter Jackson omitted 17 years from Tolkien's original story in Lord of the Rings, which explains the discrepancy.
Elves can be killed, or die from injuries, but otherwise elves are immune to disease and immortal. Galadriel is the oldest elf in Peter Jackson's movies. At the time of the Hobbit story Galadriel was 7,707 years old.
Dragons have genius level intelligence, live for a very, very long time and throw spells like a Magic-user aka Wizard. Alignments vary with their color.
It was such a smart idea to hide Smaug’s look from all promos and posters of this movie until after release. I remember seeing it in IMAX and the truly AWESOME and terrifying it was when he fully revealed himself. And because it was shot with the same 3D cameras James Cameron used for Avatar, seeing it in IMAX 3D was truly mind blowing.
Let's be honest, after Toothless, Smaug is the best dragon in cinematic history.
no toothless is second to smaug as toothless has less cunning and smaug is what all dragons should aspire to be
As long as Draco from Dragonheart is in the top 3 😊
Shnumber onesh
Where does GOT's Drogon rank?
Drogon is up there too
"Half dead, but kind of sexy." HAHAHA.
29:57 There were many magic rings in the world but only the rings of power had the levels of strength they had. Gandalf initially believed Bilbo had a magical ring but not the one ring since Bilbo never shared what it could do other than be invisible.
What's funny is that the actor who plays Legolas' father is younger than Orlando Bloom.
SMAUG: The MVP of the Hobbit trilogy
Fili and Kili are next in line to the Throne, being the sons of Thorins sister, he having no children of his own.
Smaug is the best fantasy dragon🔥
at 1:01:07 The dworf want Bard to bring King's foil herb.. You remembered that herb? When Frodo stabbed by a Nazgul, Aragorn want Sam to find King's foil.. Same plant... :D Also I loved that joke that you missed at 1:01:09 "Dont move Kili"... Hahah bro, he is kind of paralyzed.. He already cant move :D At least he cant walk.. Where will he go :D
Roxys confidence in being wrong drives me up the wall sometimes.
I don't know WHAT could be so hard....
Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, Nori, Dori, Ori, Balin, Dwalin, Fili, Kili, Oin, Gloin and Thorin!
Right, it's almost too easy to remember all of these names 😂
Lee Pace is so freaking good as Thranduil
The most elvish elf ever. He's so cool.
Unfortunately the stubborness of dwarves is very real in Middle earth. Stubborness is an annoying trait to have but when you think Gimli was also stubborn, you still love the dwarves as characters 😅 its part of who they are ❤
Fili and kili are not thorins sons, they are his nephews, thorin said his kin, not kid
I grew up near Sarehole Mill, where Tolkien grew up and took inspiration for the Shires in England. Beautiful area in Moseley, Birmingham
Aragorn was 87 by the Two Towers movie, he lived to be 210 ish (if memory serves). During the Hobbit, he would've been a young 27 year old. He comes from the line of Numenorians, an ancient race of humans who fought with the elves in the first age against the first evil, Morgoth (Saurons boss), and as a gift they were given a big island in the ocean as well as the gift of extended lifespans.
“Cows love to cuddle.” Tara - 2024
As someone who grew up around them. The few that are cuddly are rare. More than once a caw has just decided to try and kill me. Specially if they have a calf.
Edit: There was one bull who's mother was sick when he was just a little calf. He was raised and fed by hand because others would reject him. Problem was when he grew up. He thought he could play like normal. Ended up destroying equipment and even once tossed a bale of hay over the fence injuring my cousin. You couldn't be alone with him because he would kill you while trying to play.
A Heffer almost destroyed my dad's kneecap while branding.
@@martinsparks6231 We've had city people think the could get in and pet or take photos with horses or cattle not friendly to them. Another hit a deer and thought they could comfort it. Got put in a hospital. Hooves are deadly
That forest spider scene is so brutal and disturbing
At 54:40 he said "KIN" not "KID" KIN: A person's relatives.
Kinsman or kinswoman.
A group of persons tracing or claiming descent from a common ancestor, constituting a family, clan, tribe, or race.
Someone or something of the same or similar kind.
So glad you guys started this series! It's going to be a wild ride. It was crazy watching this in 48fps in theaters. They never released a version like that again but it was quite unique. Made the cgi look better but it was over a decade ago it's hard to remember.
In the book the dwarf issue was worse, now at least you can see them
Q: "How did you learn what a Dragon sounds like?" A: I grew up with a Dark Disney movie called, DRAGONSLAYER, featuring Vermithrax Perjorative. She was the most badass dragon to ever grace the silver screen.
Has anyone yet praised Roxy's diligence and dedication shown by taking notes?
This is my favorite film of The Hobbit trilogy. Some of the best action scenes of the franchise, like that river rapids chase and fighting a Dragon.
"He just rode an orc like a surfboard!"
Yep. That's Legolas 😎
under 1 hour and hear for all middle earth content. love it
If you try cuddling with a cow you will probably end up being a death by cow. They panic if you are in the wrong place because they can't see and will kick.
Bolg is actually the spawn of Azog, his son.
Left out of the movie is the highly trained dogs that Beorn had that could walk on their hind legs and do household chores like serving food.
15:44 when Bilbo looks back the head it shows is actually, Dominic, aka Merry from LOTR. In a special feature on the extended edition you see them filming that scene and he's standing there in Bilbo's costume in position as Martin Freeman is getting ready.
The cloaks were given to Frodo and Sam by Galadriel when they left Lothlorien--they aren't hobbit cloaks, but Elven cloaks. :)
Roxy Gandalf literally names them all by name in the first movie.
Honestly the first time I saw the barrell scene I hated it, just seemed so cartoony and silly compared to the gritty action of lotr. I was also prejudiced cos pretty sure that scene wasn't in the book.
But seeing you two love it made me appreciate it more.
Bilbo's sword was designed specifically by the Elves for killing spiders. Sting is a perfect name.
"Flirt-mance"?? Good one.
It took a couple viewings to get the other dwarves characters names. It maybe one of the most challenging parts of the film adaptation. Fili and Kiki are mentioned as brothers when they get it Bilbos place. I don’t recall if they mention of being Thorin’s nephews until this one. As children to one of Thorin’s sisters they would inherit the crown. Now I assume this is because there are no one male heirs and if it’s like British tradition it would pass down the next males unless Thorin had a son.
The barrel fight maybe one of my favorite fights in Cinemax. It was so creative with humor and suspense while making it unique at the same time.
I remember when the first hobbit came out, my father and brothers cosplayed at the theatre
Yes, Roxy, the white is back from An Unexpected Journey
Being someone who’s read everything from this universe, Peter Jackson really did accomplish the impossible with these films. He really did capture lightning in a bottle with these stories, in the format of film, and they used every film technique in the book to accomplish this. I think it’s important to remember also not to get frustrated at people who have not read the books, to think that they could possibly understand everything in these films is not reasonable. I mean Sauron alone had about nine different names in the books, names that mean different things for different reasons. I thoroughly enjoy watching people enjoy these films for what they are, regardless of what level of knowledge they bring to this universe.
Before Smaug, the dragon VERMITHRAX was the scariest looking dragon in cinema
If Dragonslayer was made now Vermithrax Pejorative would be the scariest, the Dragon in Reign of Fire is also worthy of a mention
Every time I watch this, I want to live in Beorn's house or even Radagast's house!
We also get Balin as a connection to LOTR. His tomb was found by Gimli in Moria.
Also Gimli arrives at Rivendale with his dad Gloin.
So the reason you see Thranduil face turn is in fact is real face covered by elvin magic. He was one of the first elves to reach middle after their civil war in the undying lands call the Kin Slaying. Most of the elves were forced to leave the west and go east to middle earth and settle.
Thranduil was left scared in the First Age after a major war with orcs, dragons and other foul dark creatures of the North Middle Earth where he and his kin of elves took up settlement.
In The Two Towers extended version, Aragorn reveals he is 87 years old.
While I am glad that the hobbit movies show us more of the dwarfs and the Greenwood elves (aka Mirkwood elves, aka Woodland elves), one needs to know more about the lore to fully understand them and their behaviour.
In the intro to the Fellowship of the rings one could see a battle of the war of the last alliance (men and elves resisting Sauron and marching against Mordor). What was not shown was that Greenwood elves under king Oropher (Thranduil's father, Legolas' grandfather) were participating as well in that battle. To make it short, they did not really want to fight under the elven High King Gil-Galad, so they charged before the rest of the armies, were cut off and then utterly destroyed in the marshes near Mordor. Those marshes were filled with thousands of bodies and later became known as the "dead marshes". At the time of the ring wars Gollum lead Frodo and Sam through the dead marshes, where they could still see those dead bodies from 3000 years ago.
The aftermath of this disaster was that the Greenwood elves under now king Thranduil did not want to participate in any war anymore. And whenever they were threatened in their realm, they would rather evade/move than fight.
This explains to some degree why Thranduil would not help the dwarfs when they were attacked and risk the wrath of Smaug, this explains also to some degree why we haven't seen any Greenwood elves in the LOTR movies besides the representatives at the secret counsel in Rivendell and Legolas ofc.
Lee Pace is an absolute talent as Thranduil. I love him in 'The Fall' and 'Pushing Daisies'
1:09:41 Benedict Cumberbatch
Hell yeah back to the Adventure. Having fun watching the series so far.
Benedict Cumberbach is the voice of Smaug ladies - and there's a video of him gettng into character thats chilling to watch, he's SO good.
After Gandalf's meeting with Thorin in Bree, he found Thrain and got the key from him, which he gave to Thorin in the first movie.
Man, I wish I had a friend like Tara! I could talk 100% nonsense, and all I'd hear back is, "Yeah, right. Yeah."
Roxy sis that super famous actor you forgot was Stephen Fry who played the master of Laketown.
They talk about it in the breakdown at the end of the video
@BallisticTech fair enough I was also shocked myself as I'm a huge fan of his and somehow never noticed.
In the lore of lotr Gandalf, Saruman, Sauron, and the Balrog(s) all belong to a caste of what are essentially lower tier angels called Miar. Sauron and the Balrog(s) were the first Dark lord's chief lieutenants of which Sauron was the greatest. Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, and the two blue wizards are sent to Middle Earth to work against Sauron in the early years of the third age (which begins after the opening battle of the first lotr film). However, the wizards are not supposed to unveil their full power to directly interfere with the affairs of Middle Earth, rather they are primarily there to advise and organize the free peoples against Sauron.
This is also why the wizards take the forms of old men despite their spirit's being immortal, they took these appearances as a way to appear wise and trustworthy to the people they were meant to guide, without seeming threatening or overly powerful. In fact, very few individuals are actually aware of the true nature of the Wizards, essentially only the members of the White Council knew (Galadriel, Elrond, Cirdan the Shipwright).
Going back to their true power, the battle with the Balrog is one of the few times we see "Gandalf the Grey uncloaked" the wizards would be able to kill almost every being in Middle Earth in single combat with relative ease save for the other Miar, a select few elves still present from the first age, and possibly the unnamed things such as The Watcher in The Water ((squid monster from FOTR) such little is known about them just wanted to mention it). Dragons would also likely be a difficult task, but there's enough examples of them being killed or mortally wounded by elves, men, and dwarves that you can probably make the presumption that Gandalf could kill one given the right circumstances.
Y’all are gonna freak about Galadriel in the Battle of the Five Armies. You actually find out how powerful she is. My favorite scene of the Hobbit movies.
Thranduil is played by Lee Pace who was also in Breaking Dawn part 2. He’s plays Carlisle’s friend Garrett: he is the vampire that gets with Kate (she radiates energy from her hands)
Don’t recall how old Legolas is in LOTR, but Arwen is around 2800 years old when she married Aragorn. He was around 80 at the time of the marriage. So he’d be in his 20’s at this point in time I think.
My father in law said an ox was one of he's best friends and frequently let him sleep next to it.
"They never told us any of this" They literally told you all of that in the first hour of the first movie.
FYI, the Necromancer is Sauron. It’s believed it’s used as a name for the form he takes in the books/movies.
The reason bilbo looked so sick was because he was about to break down after killing an innocent what seemed to be baby spider for the ring. Which it did not even want.
The Hobbit Trilogy is awesome💯🔥
They mention in Lord of the Rings Extended Edition that Aragorn is 60 something years old at that time, so Aragorn should be around 4 years old at The Hobbit's timeline
So a lot of people here have already said Aragorns age, however no one can say how old Legolas is, it's estimated to be somewhere around 2000+ years old. However an exact age cannot be made.
In the Extended Cut of Either Two Towers or ROTK Aragorn said he was in his 80's when he spoke to Aowen. So during the events of the Hobbit he has to be in his 20's