What is a British Army Basha?

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024

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  • @cerulyse
    @cerulyse 3 года назад +8

    I've been using one of these to cover up my push-bike in the garden for about10 years and it still looks like it did when I bought it👌

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      Hi Simon! An unusual use for a basha, but if it can stand up to the elements day in day out for 10 years, it shows what a tough piece of kit it is 😁 Thanks for watching, much appreciated👍

    • @cerulyse
      @cerulyse 3 года назад +2

      @@DesGreene yes it certainly out lasts for poly tarps however I think some of the silicon has worn off it. I did try Sleeping under it once I tied it between some trees in a forest the trouble is all the midges attacked.

  • @ArcticNatureExperiences
    @ArcticNatureExperiences 3 года назад +4

    The modern Basha is a far cry from the old fashioned shelter-halfs I used as a conscript 25 years ago in the Norwegian Army. I think it is a useful piece of equipment and it is more robust than many civilian lightweight items. You just have to learn the ways to use it - so thanks for an informative movie Des:)

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! Yes, such a versatile and tough piece of kit. Just need to be freed from lockdown now so I can give it some use 😁 Well, at least when the weather improves a little! All the best & stay safe👍

  • @boris100ish
    @boris100ish 3 года назад +5

    Good honest review well presented. I do prefer the smaller size than the 3x3 I find it easier to pitch and big enough. The army basha is certainly a robust well made bit of kit that will last along time. All the best Pete 👍

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Pete, much appreciated! Stay safe👍

  • @2fat2furious1
    @2fat2furious1 3 года назад +4

    This is something we should get!! Lol we have been trying so many new things lately, I think camping should be on the list😆I love your honest review, this is very helpful😃

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      Thanks! Much appreciated 😁 Have you done any tent camping previously?

  • @lymskiUK
    @lymskiUK Месяц назад

    Thanks for this video. I have just bought a second one. It might sound ridiculous to some but in these uncertain times I’ve put kit together to facilitate my family to leave our urban area on foot if need be and be able to hopefully escape any madness… I think the term is “bugging out”. I have a Bivvy each and all the rest. I enjoy camping and being outdoors so it’s a hobby and slowly I’m building up a kit that would hopefully see us tough out hard times. I think the basha is a light weight and versatile shelter that packs down tight. A bit of cordage and you’re good to go. Cheers mate

  • @AlanMETALMAN
    @AlanMETALMAN 3 года назад +3

    Very comprehensive review Des and something I have thought about for a while but always looked at the more expensive ones but to be honest, this looks great and if it is good enough for the army, it is good enough for me! Cheers Alan

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Alan! Definitely worth a try, and even if you end up wanting a more lightweight and compact tarp, you'd get your outlay back again on eBay. All the best!👍

  • @paganoutdoors3193
    @paganoutdoors3193 2 года назад +2

    Good video des, I normally use a 4x4 for my hammock rig, but my bashas do have a special place in my heart, for a stealth wild camp, be it in the peaks, woodland or beach, it certainly has it place, I use my desert basha for the beach camps, my dpm for everything else, though will be getting a mtp one soon, have camped all year round in it ,but getting older ,I prefer my hammock, but for moorland, stealth wildcamping, it's brilliant, matched with a bivvy bag, or hooped bivvy, cracking setup, good health and safe travels my friend ,cheers craig

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  2 года назад +1

      Hi Craig! I don't get to do very much woodland camping, but I think for a moorland setup the smaller size of the BA basha is actually and advantage (easier to manage in the wind and tends to make a lower profile shelter etc). Only real downside is the weight. Which is definitely a consideration as I get older! 😁 Cheers for watching and commenting👍

  • @stewartlancaster6155
    @stewartlancaster6155 5 месяцев назад +1

    wonderful for those of us who mainly are out on fells and moors up here in the North.
    So many woodland and tree set ups on yT.

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  5 месяцев назад

      Very true! Not that easy to find woodland camping spots in the norther part of the country. Cheers for watching👍

  • @mauricehartley4167
    @mauricehartley4167 3 года назад +2

    No nonsense information
    Keep up the good work
    Mo
    Wiltshire

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      Cheers Mo! Much appreciated👍

  • @paulsanders1
    @paulsanders1 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for that thorough review, it helped me immensely!

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      Hi Paul. Great feedback👍 Thanks very much👍😁

  • @blackboardbloke
    @blackboardbloke 3 года назад +2

    Good review, and you asked for any comments from people who have them.
    I've had one for about 6 or 7 years, a grade 1 desert DPM version from British Military Surplus (the retail section of the main wholesale disposal firm, Field Textiles, for the MOD). It was in such good nick, I couldn't tell it had been used. £15 with p&p taking my outlay up to £20... a bargain for something that will last decades. I got that version because they let more light through than the woodland DPM version. The MTP ones were double the price, so instead I added some more camo colours to it to blend in a little better, my own version of MTP.
    My tips are, for summer use, to get a single mozzy net with a suspension point above the torso/head area and use one of the underside centre seam loops to hook it onto. I have one that fits easily into a pocket (sausage shaped and about the same volume as a tennis ball packed up) which I bought when I backpacked around India and SE Asia for 8 months.
    Unless you think you're going to use the stretcher handles, then take a craft knife and carefully cut through the stitching to remove them. This cuts the weight by about 100g and makes it easier to roll up and less bulky.

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Some excellent tips there! Thanks for passing them on. I'd seen someone mention about removing the handles, but I can't bear taking a knife to mine 😁 The mozzie net sounds a great idea for the midge season in the UK. Thanks for watching and commenting👍 All the best👍

    • @blackboardbloke
      @blackboardbloke 3 года назад +3

      @@DesGreene No problem, I used to use two British Army 58 pattern ponchos for backpacking which I bought in the early 80s for £8, the poncho being the infantry's heavy rain and shelter up until breathable rain wear came out and the change to the shelter sheet. They wore out, the backing flaked, tapes came off the seams, but I couldn't decide whether to go with a basha or replace the ponchos., so I got two genuine USGI ponchos, because they were lighter (one 58 weighs about the same as the basha, the USGI about two thirds) and pack up a lot smaller, and the basha as it was cheap enough to compare them.
      My preference, only just by a small margin, is the ponchos for their flexibility. I can take just one or a day hike or a minimal shelter overnight, and I can wear it over a lightweight wind/waterproof if there's a downpour. On a several day trek I take two because, studded together, they make a 3.5m x 2.2m basha, or stake them down, suspended from a ridge line (strung from guyed trekking poles or trees) and they're a super hooch for one that's fully enclosed to the elements in foul or cold weather, the studs forming a doorway from whichever side I want to enter/exit. The only con is condensation, but sleeping bag in a lightweight bivvy bag negates any dampness getting to my bag.
      The other thing about both of these types of genuine military surplus shelters, is that as well as being camouflaged, they have anti-thermal imaging coatings for the best stealth you can get (gamekeepers are using drones and thermal imaging cameras to spot and move on wild campers). Never wash your basha or poncho in a washing machine with detergents. Damp sponge or cloth to remove mud etc.
      You don't get that with a DD Tarp. ;)

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      @@blackboardbloke I was joking with someone the other day about the thermal imaging properties with the recent wild camping situation 😁 I've never tried the ponchos. I'll take a closer look👍

    • @blackboardbloke
      @blackboardbloke 3 года назад +1

      @@DesGreene I've done a few videos on both, but I've never done one on my suspended fully enclosed shelter, or seen anyone else's video using the same double poncho set up as me.
      There's also the 'Alpha Tent' set up that is a great single enclosed shelter poncho (the USGI utilises two 282cm flexible poles crossed at the hood to make a mini dome tent) for emergency shelter in gale force wind foul weather or as a super low level stealth shelter (Google or RUclips search).
      I still have one of my old 70s surplus 58s which I siliconed to reproof it. If I set the two USGIs as half pyramid ends with trekking poles, then the 58 (being NATO standard) mates up with their studs and provides a great base camping hooch with cut stick poles, flap out awning for cooking/admiring the view etc.

  • @tituspullo9210
    @tituspullo9210 11 месяцев назад +4

    2:33 distributed pattern material? DPM stands for DISRUPTIVE Pattern Material.

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  11 месяцев назад

      Many thanks for watching! DPM already corrected in the video description👍

  • @SanaurRehmanShahmir
    @SanaurRehmanShahmir 3 года назад +1

    Great sharing! It will do for me because in the summer ahead my program is to hike on much higher altitudes! Lot of love and respect from a solo mountain hiker from Chitral Pakistan!

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Sana! I look forward to seeing those hikes. The distant mountain peaks in your videos look amazing👍 Hopefully once we are out of lockdown again I can share some more of our own countryside 😁 Stay safe!

  • @squadcast7456
    @squadcast7456 3 года назад +3

    Was in the infantry for 10year, ponchos are a good bit of kit, as long as u got a decent sleeping bag and roll mat that will keep u dry all year round, there of loads of different shelters you can make out of them, good vid mate👍

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Yes, they're definitely a really versatile piece of kit! Thanks for watching and taking time to leave a comment👍👍

    • @squadcast7456
      @squadcast7456 3 года назад +1

      @@DesGreene no problem mate

    • @Stinkyremy
      @Stinkyremy 10 месяцев назад

      Im not ex military but a friend is and he gave me a basha (what military call poncho) while I was bushcraft camping for over a month. With that alone, using my burgen as a wind blocker, mat and decent sleeping bag I was perfectly warm, dry and comfy all night(s) except beetles getting in my sleeping bag.

  • @AggyGoesOutdoors
    @AggyGoesOutdoors 3 года назад +3

    Been meaning to pick one up for a while, just waiting for one at the right price to come along.

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Yes, they vary quite a lot in price and some of the surplus dealers on ebay only use generic photos. But at least the dealers should give a reliable description of the condition. Great piece of kit if you get hold of a good one. All the best👍

  • @Dutcharmytent
    @Dutcharmytent 3 месяца назад +1

    Just the video I wanted to see.

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 месяца назад

      Cheers mate👍 Just for your info, I did make one small mistake conerning the camo pattern. Check the video description for the corection👍

  • @snowywelsh
    @snowywelsh 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nice review

  • @ivormoraywildcamper2447
    @ivormoraywildcamper2447 3 года назад +2

    Must admit ive been thinking about a surplus basha,recently purchased a dd 3x3,not had the weather up here to even set it up.
    Thanks for the review.

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Hi Ivor. Yes, definitely not a setup for Winter. Mind you, I have been thinking about testing out a basha & Dutch Army bivi setup in the garden 😁 Watch this space!

    • @ivormoraywildcamper2447
      @ivormoraywildcamper2447 3 года назад +1

      @@DesGreene nice one Des,its been white here in n/e Scotland since xmas eve until a day or so ago,i can now see green fields again.

  • @WanderingMonkHikes
    @WanderingMonkHikes 3 года назад +3

    Des, fun video that takes me back. In the US Army we had a similar kit. Ours had snaps along a side so that we could combine two for a 2-man system. I really like the hand loops in the British model. Great explanation! Stay on the path! Monk

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Hi Dan. The system for combining two sounds good. I think the Polish Lavvu is similar. I think I've seen it somewhere that the handles can allow it to be used as a water carrier as well as a stretcher. Anyway, a versatile piece of kit 😁 Hope you are well! Not long now until your departure! 👍

  • @TheWindyBurrow
    @TheWindyBurrow 3 года назад +1

    Great info Des. We still have an old tent (partly broken) that we manage to mount, but we've been thinking about upgrading to a tarp maybe. Thanks for the honest tips. Fabien

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Hi Fabien. With all the forest around you, tarp and hammock camping could be a great option! Have you got plans to do some camping videos? All the best👍

    • @TheWindyBurrow
      @TheWindyBurrow 3 года назад +1

      @@DesGreene We would love to, but there is still a curfew in France because of the Covid, 6pm no one outside, so it's quite difficult. We hope regulation will soften about this. fabien

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      @@TheWindyBurrow Ah of course, I meant once we are allowed. It's the same here at the moment. We can do garden camps, but nothing more exciting. Look forward to seeing some of your camping adventures later in the year👍 😁

  • @AnthonyJohnson1
    @AnthonyJohnson1 3 года назад +1

    Looks a good tarp Des. Might be something I’ll consider myself if I get into this camping lark. Does sound like something worth experiencing at some point

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      Hi Anthony. Yes, weather conditions need to be right, but it's a great way to camp. And when you can pick up a basha and a British Army bivi bag for 50 or 60 quid, it's not a huge outlay to give it a try. Hope you are keeping well👍

  • @mrfarty5017
    @mrfarty5017 3 года назад +1

    They are good bits of kit .Good vid des .

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Cheers. Just looking forward to getting out and using it again! All the best👍

  • @WyeExplorer
    @WyeExplorer 3 года назад +2

    Good tarp des. I've used MTB for some years but not this pattern. Looks like it could be versatile as mentioned. The weight isn't mammoth so no bother. Well, good going. Hope you enjoy it. Mark

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Mark. Yes, definitely a great piece of kit. Hope you are keeping well👍

    • @WyeExplorer
      @WyeExplorer 3 года назад +1

      @@DesGreene A pleasure des. I'm doing alright.

  • @marielortezvlogs
    @marielortezvlogs 3 года назад +2

    great info thanks for sharing this video godbless

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      Thanks very much for watching!👍

  • @scandinaviannaturediaries8892
    @scandinaviannaturediaries8892 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for sharing 👍

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      Thank you for watching! 😁👍

  • @sperrinoutdoors7642
    @sperrinoutdoors7642 3 года назад +1

    I have one it's getting old now could do with getting a new one . Nice upload

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      Thanks Colwyn! They're a great piece of kit to have around. All the best👍

  • @walkandcamp
    @walkandcamp 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for that Des. Interesting. I see what you mean about that pattern being good on the fells and moors around the peak district etc. Cheers

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      No problem, thanks for watching! I think a lot of bushcraft campers prefer the DPM, but it's pretty dark. For me the MTP blends in great. All the best👍

  • @UrbanGrrl69
    @UrbanGrrl69 3 года назад +1

    Good to see up close how this actually differs from the DD 3x3 for example which I have. I am impressed with the quality of the material and stitching. I think the other pro as you say is price point for camp type patterns, the DD versions are expensive.

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      Yes, they're certainly a decent piece of kit. I've never owned a DD tarp, but they certainly seem popular and get a lot of good reviews. Hope you are keeping well👍👍

  • @momcreatos404
    @momcreatos404 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for sharing

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      Thank you for watching👍

  • @PathsExplorerThailand
    @PathsExplorerThailand 3 года назад +2

    Great vlog as always, Des Really enjoyed it.

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      Thank you! Much appreciated👍

  • @Natural_healing_channel.
    @Natural_healing_channel. 3 года назад +1

    Keep a good relationship for a long time. Thank you, good friend^^.

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      Thank you for watching👍

  • @johnrutherford4042
    @johnrutherford4042 2 года назад +1

    Just to correct you on the DPM its disruptive pattern material, good video tho

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  2 года назад

      Thanks John👍 Someone else pointed out my error a while ago, so I put a correction in the video description. All the best👍

  • @gud2go50
    @gud2go50 5 месяцев назад +1

    The U.S. Marine Corps came out with something similar long after I retired from the Corps. I bought one, but was I’m not pleased with its durability. I would love to lay my hands on a British Army basha. How can I get a good one without being taken to the laundry, because I’m now on a fixed income! Thanks!😊

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  5 месяцев назад

      Hi. I think the main issue would be postage costs to the US. On Ebay over here, the tend to sell for around £25 or £30. But as they are rather heavy, it might not be worth paying for postage.
      They are very tough piece of kit, but as I get older I do find myself veering towards more lightweight gear 😁

  • @DesmondsDonders
    @DesmondsDonders 3 года назад +2

    Wow they have been improved since I was last issued one.

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Ha ha, so what were the ones you used like? 😁 Was I not too far wrong with the Landrover tarp?

    • @DesmondsDonders
      @DesmondsDonders 3 года назад

      @@DesGreene More like a builders tarp LOL They did improve after 1982 though. The ones we had only had islets no hoops or webbing.

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      @@DesmondsDonders Interesting! Thanks Dave👍

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 3 года назад

      I left the Army in 1993 and these still hadn't been introduced as far as I know. We had what was known as the 58 pattern poncho, which was a lot smaller than this.

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      @@simonh6371 Hi Simon. Thanks for the info. They definitely make a great setup along with a bivi. I can't remember seeing a date stamp on mine, but I'll check next time I open it. The silicone sealant along the seam is all good, so I'm guessing it's not that old. All the best👍

  • @Trac3r.
    @Trac3r. 2 года назад +1

    Good job. Only thing to note is this is all year round it don’t matter what the weather is if ya tactical or total field discipline this is what ya got haha it’s the set up as a whole a lot of surplus kit out there supports this stuff to make it go anywhere any season case in point the army arctic sleep bags (not Modular one) “oh it goes to -12” yeah but not on its own you need the arctic liner and the goretex bivi bag and thermal sleep mat so all together then ya can do to -12 etc so it’s all in all how it’s applied a lot of that is over doing it for the Uk but not so for me I use all the above in now times been out twice over the last couple weeks and I been fine. Again the tarp that looks great may not be the best to keep the wind out also with these bashas there is often a shellscrape dug underneath it to the depth of the diggers knee to keep you lower and allowing you to keep the basha down low to the ground you encapsulate yourself we all like looking good but it’s practicality that wins with this I only go with a 1 pole ultralight 1 man tent in reserve if it’s un-ideal to dig a huge square haha so it’s ways n means guys hope this helps it’s just notes to add as every time I go I set my basha up to suit my sleep not aesthetically pleasing at all all about comfort and wind out

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  2 года назад +1

      Cheers for the detailed comment and additional info, Mr Clarksonite!👍 Yes, I personally tend to save the bivi/basha camping for the warmer months, but I agree, if you use the correct kit and technique it's doable all year round. Thanks again, and all the best to you👍

    • @Trac3r.
      @Trac3r. 2 года назад +1

      @@DesGreene it’s by no means a correction you covered it perfectly good sir I took a lot away from it. Thank you

  • @Taffwildmanofthewoods
    @Taffwildmanofthewoods 3 года назад +2

    Universal piece of kit 👍 atb Taff 🤠

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      It is Taff! All we need now is the all clear to get out and use it 😁 Hope you are well mate👍

  • @michaelweber692
    @michaelweber692 2 года назад +1

    Its the best tarp of the world

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  2 года назад

      Can't argue with that, Michael! Many thanks for watching👍

  • @Adventures_with_Sog
    @Adventures_with_Sog Год назад +1

    DPM 'Disruptive' Pattern Material.

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  Год назад +1

      Cheers mate👍 It's already been corrected down in the description. All the best & catch you soon👍

  • @jasonhill6304
    @jasonhill6304 3 года назад +3

    I was always told DPM stood for Disrupted Pattern Material when I was in the infantry...great bit of bullet proof back up kit to have though 👍

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Hi Jason. Yes, I put a correction in the description below. Point a camera at me and I spout rubbish 😁 As you say, they are a great piece of kit. Thanks for watching and commenting👍

    • @jasonhill6304
      @jasonhill6304 3 года назад +1

      @@DesGreene Great video though mate. You ex forces ?

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      @@jasonhill6304 Thanks! No, not ex forces. Just appreciate the quality of the gear 😁

    • @ianmatthews3041
      @ianmatthews3041 2 года назад

      Disruptive Mate!

  • @johnrutherford4042
    @johnrutherford4042 2 года назад +1

    And the MTP only came out when Afghanistan started that was the reason for this pattern

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  2 года назад +1

      Thanks John. Interesting additional info👍 Were the DPM and Desert patterns stopped when MTP came out? Some of those bashas must have quite an age to them by now!
      Many thanks for watching & commenting👍

    • @johnrutherford4042
      @johnrutherford4042 2 года назад +1

      @@DesGreene yeah they are what they are robust and strong tried and tested by the MOD some kit gets issued but it was never used so it gets through the channels ends up on ebay lol some kit is wrecked as you know but 9out of 10 still useable but yeah there is some age to some of it 😉

    • @johnrutherford4042
      @johnrutherford4042 2 года назад +1

      @@DesGreene yes dpm and desert patterns stopped when the mtp came out

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  2 года назад +1

      @@johnrutherford4042 Yes, not too difficult to find ones that look unused. Great piece of kit 👍

  • @rachaelwyatt754
    @rachaelwyatt754 3 года назад +2

    Des, "Disruptive" pattern material = DPM. :)

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Rachael👍 Already been corrected in the video description. Cheers for watching!👍

  • @russstentiford2252
    @russstentiford2252 2 года назад +1

    Is it recommended to have seam seals up OR down?

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  2 года назад +2

      Hi Russ. No idea on official recommendation, but I always use mine with seam seal up (ie outside). It seems odd compared to a seam sealed tent, but from how the basha is constructed that has always felt correct to me. Cheers for watching👍

    • @duffers29
      @duffers29 Год назад +1

      Silicone seems side up , if u do the other way rain can get into the seems causing damp and eventually loosen , for longevity silicone side up . X Infantry.

  • @mustamuri
    @mustamuri 3 года назад +1

    ✨🧸✨🙂👍

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching, Muri👍👍

  • @MC14may
    @MC14may 3 года назад +1

    After 20yrs of spending many miserable nights under one...the best thing you could do on this video was burn it...🤣🤣

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      Ha ha 😂 I guess it makes a difference choosing to use one rather than having to 😁 All the best!👍

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 3 года назад +2

      These weren't around when I was in, we were issued ponchos, this is huge in comparison and with a bivvy bag and good sleeping bag & mat it's the lap of luxury.

  • @NaomisAdventures
    @NaomisAdventures 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing

    • @DesGreene
      @DesGreene  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching, Naomi👍