@@mejasiart8817 Not exactly because Reyna exist. She excels in 1v1 scenarios meaning she for the most part doesn't need a team. Its the reason why 1vN clutches are a lot easier with Reyna because she allows you to essentially fight 1v1's again and again provided you can separate those fights from each other. Other agents need teammates to enable them with varying degrees, it's just that Neon in particular needs a lot of help from teammates to fully capitalize on what she allows your team to do.
At 3:18 you can see a KAY/O flash to allow neon to slide safely on the other side of the wall, maiking this B push use in total 9 different ability's (-Brim: 2 smoke and 1 stim -Breach: 1 Flash and a stun -Neon: wall + 1 double stun and a slide -KAY/O: 1 flash a knife and a molly) so if you want to this in ranked, well good luck, you'll need it
This video just highlights how INSANE optic is with utilities, everything is pre-calculated and orchestrated, also nothing is ‘improvised’. At this stage valorant is more about the ‘tactical’ part and not the shooter part, this is why a team like sentinels just does not keep up with the meta bc they are stuck with their old ways of just ‘fast hit B site’ or the same old defensive setups
im immortal 2 and i swear to god, i have faced some neons that are just insane. the pressure she brings. Idk, compared to other duelists i think she takes the cake
Nah the games matured a lot, people thinking jett is trash were just plain stupid in all honesty how could she ever be looked at as bad? Rn the meta is self sufficient characters that can also enable teammates by enabling themselves. Jett, skye, chamber etc. Agents that need team work just never get picked much in ranked matches because it’s to unpredictable synergy is a hard thing to find with randoms. That’s why only smart players can make these agents work as they essentially use their teammates as puppets and even then still have a hard time.
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin one of the reasons I remember people thinking Jett was bad is because she was seen as an agent that only provides value for Jett, not the whole team. People complained that her smokes didn’t last long enough to do what people expected from smokes and then (aside from her ultimate) it’s just movement abilities. Yeah they were wrong but I hope that sheds some light on why people thought she was trash.
After release: Too overpowered. Needs nerf After act end: See? She's actually trash. None of the pros use her. Nerf not needed. Now: Pros Play Neon, play Neon, play her
Neon is the definition of enter fast, die fast. She performs the role of duelist of entering site so well that her teammates can actually follow her since she is the first to die.
I was a great Neon main (before the buff) but the alt did so little damage so I became a Chamber main but I was in one game someone instalocked Chamber so I chose Neon instead and I got MVP and two ACEs in that same game (the first ACE was also my first ACE ever). Neon is such an underrated agent and I hope people use her more.
I am in low elo so I come across a Neon almost every game since most of us don't know how to deal with run and gun because of poor aim and bad spraying habits. I also play on a fairly low end computer so whenever there's a Neon ulting on my screen the fps casually drops to 20-25
@@laserwinged2036 if its laptop try to go to power option and make min cpu usage 80 max 90 , go back , and download throttle stop , uncheck c1e and lower multiplier or smthng like that , it could be the cpu heat causing ur fps to drop and this is the fix ,if its not the cpu , try to change the OS (downgrade)(only when u have old gpu) and try old drivers, . idk this is how made my fps from 40dropping to20 into, 100-80 , i even downloaded CRu and overclocked monitor refresh rate it was bit better than usual. i typed an essay ; / tell me if u tried
ive been saying this for the longest. her stuns which could clear 2 corners w/ big area hit is really good. Her speed which creates really fast gameplay which forces enemies to think fast (in a slow game valorant) creates so much pressure. she has fast map rotations too. The only problem is you need to set her up, but thats it. Wait till they buff her ult then shes A to S tier imo (in pro team wise not necessarily ranked).
Well this is definitely re-assuring. I felt by design Neon was good at creating early pressure and even has the potential to fake push a site and still find time to support the team in their push to the opposite site. I’ve seen her be played in a lurk-ish sense, but given her sprint ability she can most easily play with the team. But I agree she shines the most at working with the team at opening the site and disrupting the pace of the game by punishing defensive plays (I.e. catching a Sage/Raze offguard as they finish their animation for throwing slow/grenade) out in the open
One of the best Neon player (imo) is actually iitzTimmy. Being an apex main definitely help him to make Neon work. Elite movement with that agent could definitely outfrag and create havoc on the enemy's defense while being one of the better duelist at defending with her stun, wall and quick rotation.
hey u should check out shirorz, if optic victor neon is god tier, shirorz is titan tier if you know ur mythology. also, he usually solo qs so ull learn a thing or two from shirorz neon solo
Okay I am genuinely curious. How should I enable her as a teammate in Soloque in the way these pros do it. I usually play Omen or Chamber in the a silver/bronze ranked lobby and I will try to follow the entrying neon and follow up for kills. I will also try to smoke off common angles of course. However, in soloque, teamwork and communication like the pros are highly variable. For example, a neon player unwilling to talk on VC. How do I follow up with that player?
You follow up that player by doing things pre-emptively. Like if you’re using omen, flash a certain spot when your team or neon is ready to push that area. It doesn’t matter if you flash too early since in your elo, comms is hard to come by so it would be better using utility early when your duelist is ready or at the perfect time (prone to mistakes if you are assisting an unexperienced player or random).
@@ValorantAscended Ahhhh I see. Some players seem to hate it whenever I bait time to time (I try not to do it), but if they are unwilling to comm, it's porbably better to do that.
You answered it yourself, it requires teamwork, and I can't rely on my duo to play proper post plant with me, let alone on some randoms to enable me on Neon.
I have been playing her a lot lately but playing with a team that won't trade you out after entry is super frustrating. Her ult is also pretty difficult to use
After the clustef**k of a update i have started to play neon again and i am doing these things differently this time to make her work:- 1 Practising her movement in custom games of every map 2 Using her sprint only when necessary and switching to shift walking at times 3 Coordinating better with my teammates (especially flash agents) 4 using her slide only when necessary 5 using her ult only after i know enemy's location
Would be cool if he can right click his wall and this would create an omen like smoke of fire in his place. This would also apply to the spawn site of his ult so 2 fire smokes.
Keep in mind these are "pro teams" Solo que neon is close to useless in smaller maps as she really can't run without making sound, in maps such as breeze being able to reposition quickly is definitely beneficial Overall there are just better duelists
I gotta say Neon is pretty aggressive and maybe modeled after other agents. But I never noticed how she leans on her teammates' abilities. Glad to know that :)
Hey, would you consider doing a video on excel Chiwawa? He goes cypher on 5 maps and he top feats so incredibly often (he has 212 ACS and 1.11 KDA over 17 maps and 315 rounds), so could you walk us through his gameplay and see how we can have similar impact
Every single time he makes a video about "Pros play X agent, why don't you?" It's always on an agent I suck at. I literally can't play 2 agents. He has two videos like this. But I've learnt Kayo, so maybe neon too, soon enough.
Neon movement is CoD movement and I LOVE IT!!! Only if a lot of CoD players knew that! That would make neon the new meta and make Valorant closer to CoD(even if that is by 1%) because of the slide mechanics alone!
neons ult is actually bs on small maps like split or fracture i am a neon main and i always instalock neon on fracture even though i usually dont instalock and neon is actually pretty fun to use and pretty usefull because shes just that agent that you dont know where tf she is
instructions unclear, phoenix and kayo both flashed me and i was stunned by breach without me even having to ask for the utility but seriously neon is broken with proper co-ordination
neon is only good when you have a comp that enables her to play, that being chamber, they simply dissect jett into 2 characters. now thinking about it since jett is dead from the new act, neon has a chance to go meta
Pros playing Neon: *runs in a straight line with 6 abilities from other players* @Riakimu (or a good Apex player) playing Neon: *Destroys all the enemy team with godlike movement and good aim*
Reyna exist and she was made to excel at 1v1. Other agents also needs teamwork but they need it with varying degrees. Neon is just an agent that needs coordination a lot more than others.
Cause pro have aim, my team don't 😐, most of the times my public that be usin neon just straight out ran in to site without checking any angle and die to a shotgun before team had the chance to support this random push to site ☺️
1. Watches this vid 2. Learns neon in unrated 3. Plays in comp 4. DEFEAT 5. Remembers teamwork and Randos dont match... why do you think reyna works in pubs xD
I mean its pretty accurate. Pros play neon because they have the coordination. You don't because you probably don't have that level of coordination in solo q
I play this game like once every 3 months to gain xp for new agents, this of course doesn't happen because the randoms i get forfeit after losing 2 rounds in unranked
When you found good randoms, neon is so good to use
“When”
this applies to any agent
@@mejasiart8817 This doesnt apply to reyna
@@mejasiart8817 Not exactly because Reyna exist. She excels in 1v1 scenarios meaning she for the most part doesn't need a team.
Its the reason why 1vN clutches are a lot easier with Reyna because she allows you to essentially fight 1v1's again and again provided you can separate those fights from each other.
Other agents need teammates to enable them with varying degrees, it's just that Neon in particular needs a lot of help from teammates to fully capitalize on what she allows your team to do.
basically 1/100000 games
Cause im not pro
How simple yet meaningful this is.
i was about to comment this shit
Then just be
lmaoooo
understandable, have a great day
At 3:18 you can see a KAY/O flash to allow neon to slide safely on the other side of the wall, maiking this B push use in total 9 different ability's
(-Brim: 2 smoke and 1 stim
-Breach: 1 Flash and a stun
-Neon: wall + 1 double stun and a slide
-KAY/O: 1 flash a knife and a molly)
so if you want to this in ranked, well good luck, you'll need it
kayo molly behind tbe box as well xd
And accidentally kill teamate
@@CanMenzo lol thought it was from the defenders xd
1:08 the speed, accuracy and execution on this play was too perfect
This video just highlights how INSANE optic is with utilities, everything is pre-calculated and orchestrated, also nothing is ‘improvised’. At this stage valorant is more about the ‘tactical’ part and not the shooter part, this is why a team like sentinels just does not keep up with the meta bc they are stuck with their old ways of just ‘fast hit B site’ or the same old defensive setups
😔 and then there is sentinels
@@MilaneseMoon that's what they said
@@nottherealben lol I didn’t read that part 😂
They are improvised though
Neon need teamwork
Me: *close the video*
exactly...fk randoms
hhhhhh nice comment
im immortal 2 and i swear to god, i have faced some neons that are just insane. the pressure she brings. Idk, compared to other duelists i think she takes the cake
she feels like jett was back in beta, everyone thought she was trash until ppl figured her out
Nah the games matured a lot, people thinking jett is trash were just plain stupid in all honesty how could she ever be looked at as bad? Rn the meta is self sufficient characters that can also enable teammates by enabling themselves. Jett, skye, chamber etc. Agents that need team work just never get picked much in ranked matches because it’s to unpredictable synergy is a hard thing to find with randoms. That’s why only smart players can make these agents work as they essentially use their teammates as puppets and even then still have a hard time.
uhm no she needs teamplay which you wont get in your average ranked games
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin that is what he meant exactly bruh!
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin one of the reasons I remember people thinking Jett was bad is because she was seen as an agent that only provides value for Jett, not the whole team. People complained that her smokes didn’t last long enough to do what people expected from smokes and then (aside from her ultimate) it’s just movement abilities. Yeah they were wrong but I hope that sheds some light on why people thought she was trash.
@@riker8214 riot agreed that jett smokes didnt last long enough and buffed the duration quite early on which pushed her to be the best agent
After release: Too overpowered. Needs nerf
After act end: See? She's actually trash. None of the pros use her. Nerf not needed.
Now: Pros Play Neon, play Neon, play her
You just need to see the winrate, if she is too strong or not
Neon is the definition of enter fast, die fast. She performs the role of duelist of entering site so well that her teammates can actually follow her since she is the first to die.
So many cool set plays you can do with her and your teams util. 100% need at least a duo with another agent that has synergy with her to make work.
I was a great Neon main (before the buff) but the alt did so little damage so I became a Chamber main but I was in one game someone instalocked Chamber so I chose Neon instead and I got MVP and two ACEs in that same game (the first ACE was also my first ACE ever). Neon is such an underrated agent and I hope people use her more.
I am in low elo so I come across a Neon almost every game since most of us don't know how to deal with run and gun because of poor aim and bad spraying habits. I also play on a fairly low end computer so whenever there's a Neon ulting on my screen the fps casually drops to 20-25
Thats my regular Fps BTW
@@laserwinged2036 Lol was same for me I have a laptop but look up fixes on RUclips and I got to 60 stable
@@moommoom6915 I applied fixes to get 20-25 fps it was 0-15 originally
@@laserwinged2036 if its laptop try to go to power option and make min cpu usage 80 max 90 , go back , and download throttle stop , uncheck c1e and lower multiplier or smthng like that , it could be the cpu heat causing ur fps to drop and this is the fix ,if its not the cpu , try to change the OS (downgrade)(only when u have old gpu) and try old drivers, . idk this is how made my fps from 40dropping to20 into, 100-80 , i even downloaded CRu and overclocked monitor refresh rate it was bit better than usual. i typed an essay ; / tell me if u tried
ive been saying this for the longest. her stuns which could clear 2 corners w/ big area hit is really good. Her speed which creates really fast gameplay which forces enemies to think fast (in a slow game valorant) creates so much pressure. she has fast map rotations too. The only problem is you need to set her up, but thats it. Wait till they buff her ult then shes A to S tier imo (in pro team wise not necessarily ranked).
Well this is definitely re-assuring. I felt by design Neon was good at creating early pressure and even has the potential to fake push a site and still find time to support the team in their push to the opposite site. I’ve seen her be played in a lurk-ish sense, but given her sprint ability she can most easily play with the team. But I agree she shines the most at working with the team at opening the site and disrupting the pace of the game by punishing defensive plays (I.e. catching a Sage/Raze offguard as they finish their animation for throwing slow/grenade) out in the open
Neon solo Q is so horrible cause teammates never capitalize on anything. I literally opened up site and my team just sat there waiting and we lost.
One of the best Neon player (imo) is actually iitzTimmy. Being an apex main definitely help him to make Neon work. Elite movement with that agent could definitely outfrag and create havoc on the enemy's defense while being one of the better duelist at defending with her stun, wall and quick rotation.
Wall jumping skills in Apex really translates well to neon as she can outplay enemies in duels
hey u should check out shirorz, if optic victor neon is god tier, shirorz is titan tier if you know ur mythology. also, he usually solo qs so ull learn a thing or two from shirorz neon solo
3:24
There is also a Kayo molly behind boxes
gonna be honest. every neon I get in ranked is freaking crazy.
Okay I am genuinely curious. How should I enable her as a teammate in Soloque in the way these pros do it. I usually play Omen or Chamber in the a silver/bronze ranked lobby and I will try to follow the entrying neon and follow up for kills. I will also try to smoke off common angles of course. However, in soloque, teamwork and communication like the pros are highly variable. For example, a neon player unwilling to talk on VC. How do I follow up with that player?
Honestly, just bait them and try to trade. You could also try to flash for their entry. The Agent is best with a duo though
“Just bait them and try to trade” - that’s solo Q bible right there 😅
You follow up that player by doing things pre-emptively. Like if you’re using omen, flash a certain spot when your team or neon is ready to push that area. It doesn’t matter if you flash too early since in your elo, comms is hard to come by so it would be better using utility early when your duelist is ready or at the perfect time (prone to mistakes if you are assisting an unexperienced player or random).
@@ValorantAscended Ahhhh I see. Some players seem to hate it whenever I bait time to time (I try not to do it), but if they are unwilling to comm, it's porbably better to do that.
@@Zed-xl9nvThat makes sense. It's better to use the flash early than never. I will try to follow your suggestion!
You answered it yourself, it requires teamwork, and I can't rely on my duo to play proper post plant with me, let alone on some randoms to enable me on Neon.
I have been playing her a lot lately but playing with a team that won't trade you out after entry is super frustrating. Her ult is also pretty difficult to use
I do play Neon, She lost me 300 elo👍
ur coordination lost u 300 elo
After the clustef**k of a update i have started to play neon again and i am doing these things differently this time to make her work:-
1 Practising her movement in custom games of every map
2 Using her sprint only when necessary and switching to shift walking at times
3 Coordinating better with my teammates (especially flash agents)
4 using her slide only when necessary
5 using her ult only after i know enemy's location
for me, neon is proof of concept that all phoenix needs to be viable is a longer wall.
and also Phx needs it double xD
And also a better flash, and movement speed, and a mini dash
Would be cool if he can right click his wall and this would create an omen like smoke of fire in his place. This would also apply to the spawn site of his ult so 2 fire smokes.
His E right click could consume the fire and this would instantly heal him but only half the heal and this would also give him combat stim.
Phoenix needs a speed trick
Keep in mind these are "pro teams"
Solo que neon is close to useless in smaller maps as she really can't run without making sound, in maps such as breeze being able to reposition quickly is definitely beneficial
Overall there are just better duelists
I gotta say Neon is pretty aggressive and maybe modeled after other agents. But I never noticed how she leans on her teammates' abilities. Glad to know that :)
look how many util had been thrown in one scene to clear a whole site as fast as possible.
i love how riot make Kay/O for CS:GO player and Neon for CoD/Apex player
Said it best! Great video! as a Neon player I got a lot out of this!
you kinda answered the question in the title early on in the video, saying “neon needs teamwork”
Hey, would you consider doing a video on excel Chiwawa? He goes cypher on 5 maps and he top feats so incredibly often (he has 212 ACS and 1.11 KDA over 17 maps and 315 rounds), so could you walk us through his gameplay and see how we can have similar impact
im glad neon is in a good spot- it think this is exactly what she was made for
are u subbed to gosupeak
@@fxhdtchjfrytjyj yeh
@@err0rWasTaken i am watching you...
@@fxhdtchjfrytjyj yeye❤
lol they just nerfed her
Thanks this will really help my csgo gameplay.
how I play neon: die before getting the chance to do anything
You answered your own question at 1:07 lol
Great vid ty
great video as always
just started using neon because of this video and i got a 5 winstreak about to go out of gold and into plat
Every single time he makes a video about "Pros play X agent, why don't you?" It's always on an agent I suck at. I literally can't play 2 agents. He has two videos like this. But I've learnt Kayo, so maybe neon too, soon enough.
Q: How to play Neon?
A: Join Optic
be victor
since she got released I almost only play Neon. I really like her kit
Neon entries let’s me play such an aggressive omen
Neon movement is CoD movement and I LOVE IT!!! Only if a lot of CoD players knew that! That would make neon the new meta and make Valorant closer to CoD(even if that is by 1%) because of the slide mechanics alone!
I actually think neon is the best duelist because you need team work and coordination to find success with her
neons ult is actually bs on small maps like split or fracture i am a neon main and i always instalock neon on fracture even though i usually dont instalock and neon is actually pretty fun to use and pretty usefull because shes just that agent that you dont know where tf she is
I enjoy playing neon its just I dont play duelist in comp. Maybe when I get better ill try
"Neon needs teamwork"
*Me who solo queues*
instructions unclear, phoenix and kayo both flashed me and i was stunned by breach without me even having to ask for the utility
but seriously neon is broken with proper co-ordination
Damn them combos are pretty sick.. no wondet sen suck nowdays. Aim no brain cant win against those strats
neon is only good when you have a comp that enables her to play, that being chamber, they simply dissect jett into 2 characters.
now thinking about it since jett is dead from the new act, neon has a chance to go meta
I been a neon main since she came out
Pros playing Neon: *runs in a straight line with 6 abilities from other players*
@Riakimu (or a good Apex player) playing Neon: *Destroys all the enemy team with godlike movement and good aim*
Wherever i play neon she kinda cools my pc a little
The reason is I'm always playing smokes
So neon needs teamwork
So is there any agent that doesn't need any teammate
Reyna and Jett of course :D
Reyna exist and she was made to excel at 1v1. Other agents also needs teamwork but they need it with varying degrees. Neon is just an agent that needs coordination a lot more than others.
Pros use Neon because she's good. I use Neon because she's cute. We are not the same
Cause i dont have her unlocked
Because she is very sacrificial.
This game.....one match i feel like a pro and the next match I'm $h1t
**not me who already plays valorant**
I do play her, actually
Cause pro have aim, my team don't 😐, most of the times my public that be usin neon just straight out ran in to site without checking any angle and die to a shotgun before team had the chance to support this random push to site ☺️
I am bad that's why
Laughs in day 1 neon main 👉👈
i started playing neon and in total of 52 matches i won 48 and i started playing in b2 and im currently d3 :)))
U started b2 and now d3? Keep grinding and you'll be pro by the end of next month
@@ynotmichael thanks xd :)
keep grinding and you will win the vct this year no cap
@@blade7_gaming545 thanks and keep grinding u might make it out of iron no cap
@@remorse2242 jokes on you i don't play this game anymore 😂
because I don't have her
God Plays
Yep, everybody thinks Neon is bad bc they don't wanna learn how to play her/play with her.
1. Watches this vid
2. Learns neon in unrated
3. Plays in comp
4. DEFEAT
5. Remembers teamwork and Randos dont match...
why do you think reyna works in pubs xD
i am one of the good neon player. knows how to use wall and knows that i have stuns
I do I'm a hardcore neon main
Video: "Pros Play NEON... Why Don't You?"
Also Video: *shows above 20 iq level of coordination
Half of the VALORANT community is out of this one.
I mean its pretty accurate. Pros play neon because they have the coordination. You don't because you probably don't have that level of coordination in solo q
My excuse is the my movement is dog -_-
Cuz U get oneshotted If u try tactics Like this
45 kill game with neon and ares xD
I dont play neon because im honourable. i give my enemies a fighting chance to shoot back. i dont just no skill, slide around the map.
Man....you should not put the arrow like that -_-
okey I do play neon
jokes on u I do
*NEO needs teamwork*
whelp, she's unviable in solo queue then
I do play neon 😎 🕶
I don’t play her cuz I’m a chamber/smoke player
I do
neon ult is the ult where you require the least skill to execute it imo
sorry but not sorry
hey I am a good neon main
And now Sentinels are switching to brim😁😁😁😁
riot bans maps but leaves this champ in the game? That's what you get when a woman is in charge
i use her
It's cuz I have a life and climbing is not that life
I play this game like once every 3 months to gain xp for new agents, this of course doesn't happen because the randoms i get forfeit after losing 2 rounds in unranked
Because I'm trash
Wdym I main Neon
i just dont like neon as an character bro
She's really good. But Jett and Reyna have created bad habits in the genre. people rely on those 2 crutches really hard.
Because I suck
Because I'm in silver.
Im not gay
so she needs a team of pro level to work at alll
that means shes bad bro
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