This is a huge issue. But it isn't even just training. It's that we've let the laws be changed to this point. Where it's legal for them to kill just about anyone just as long as they "feel threatened," etc. Wake up folks! The funny thing is...things are sliding this way, and a bunch of people want to make sure that we can't have guns any longer. Because we "don't need them" and the police will take care of us? Riiiiiiight.
ESPECIALLY IF HE IS BLACK, SHOOT. In West Virginia and in the POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE THREAT was never an UNLOADED GUN, because the guys that shot up the theater in Colorado with a gun lived, the man that shot up that Black church in South Carolina with a gun lived, and any MASS SHOOTING THAT INVOLVED WHITE MEN LIVED, and NO COPS WERE FIRED. Thus, in this case the THREAT WAS NEVER THE GUN, IT WAS THE BLACK MAN that he failed to SHOOT!.
Right. And he was a soldier before. That used to be his job, to eliminate threats. How is it he can differentiate between actions of war and serving and protecting the public, yet his supposed superiors can't?
@@mjfranolich3681 hes seen war as a man, they have not and would rather play a safe proxy war just safe enough to get their cox hurd, you usually see these type of worms as government officials, politicians, most anyone with even a drop of power in their boring lives
This situation is so strange. First of all it feels counter-productive to be applauding a cop for doing his job, that should be standard. But then the police department fired him? The guy should seek compensation right away.
Nobody commenting on this situation was actually at the seen and saw what actually happened. What we have heard is the version of the story from the guy who was fired. According to BLM, cops all protect each other so I'm not sure how this cop's supervisor even knew he put other people's life in danger.
Derek Hall the stories match up dude. The police already said in their public statement the ex-officer wasn't making attempts at shooting the suicidal person.
This is why cops don't speak up when they see corruption. They will be punished. The police in america need total reform. You should have at least a 4 year degree and live in the community you serve period! Idiots get 60 credits in any major and can become a cop. The very issue. We have bums as servants and protectors.
YASSS man!! They need to be educated about the realities of this systemic racism society we live in. Without that type of education, they will never feel or understand those realities and just assume everyone is "equal".
it wouldn't make a difference, its the politicians who are scared, so they train cops to shoot first and ask questions later. That way if theres a protest cops will shoot first and ask questions later!
Except ghettos aren't a taxpayer funded organisation meant to carry out a specific job, you're confusing corruption in a professional setting with corruption in a social setting. Hypocrite.
I love it! I love that I was right for over 10 years ago! Haha yes! I hope murica burns inside out, hope the terrorist states US kills it self. If you as a criminal country invades other countries and murders their citizen and lying to the public than those politicians and criminals must be put in jail, right? But nope, not in murica. Here they defend their terrorist state and their corrupted politicians, they defend the murdering of civilians in other countries, they defend the invasion of countries (I mean they voted for Trump a racist, sexist scum who would have sex with his own daughter) and for that - justice is served - let it self do that. And we are seeing things like this about cops and citizens conflict all over the US. On every news you would found these stuff and that makes me so happy! Keep it up murica - do us a favor and burn by murdering your own! Like all empires this criminal empire will fall too! Still waiting for that brave country to bomb the shit out of murica!
It’s not that the academy’s not doing their job it’s just that all politicians are getting there family members and friends all put to the top of the list so it’s all bozos getting the jobs instead of ones who truly want to be an officer and serve there community
u have to find some other countries and declare they have weapon of mass distruction, and send in the military to get experience, and in the mean time u wouldn't find the weapon of mass distruction and killed millions of civilians in the process ruined a coiple og country, lost some of ur boys, and that woild eliminate some oyher countries threat, ur economy would run in gutter in those 15 years, and now u have rising unemployment
Mars and starkiller... it doesn't surprise me that the Fox News website covered this. The Fox News TV channel seems like an entirely different beast from the Fox News website. I love the Fox News website. It's one of the best news sites out there as far as I'm concerned. What I would be curious to know is if the Fox News *channel* covered it. Fox News: Yay website... boo TV channel!
Gavin Laster if u look on the article he linked it says all sorts of other issues that got the officer fired, soooooooo I would more say that the media is trying to brainwash you
Well, your claiming America is a bad place due to the laws? You don’t enjoy your freedom? You must live in the north, or California. Moving to the UK isn’t what you would think. The cartoons, laws and what’s needed in the RUclips guidelines are strict, Knives, guns and other forms of weapons have to be censored. So, be happy to live in America.
"so become a cop and make a difference" not possible... you have to change the system not the people.... just like Obama being a black president means nothing because the system is the same.... we have systemic issues .. police, government, the market, education, prison... all broken systems
Dom Eddy Third option is what happened in this story and a cop doing his job properly, is forced out because it makes the others nervous theat they won't get on it. TYT ran the story about the cop a few years ago who stopped her partner from choking a young boy and was forced out because of it.
Ving Rhames exactly... you become the enemy and you get black listed, ending your career... "So become a cop and make a difference" Except when you try to do just that, you are no longer a cop
You are an idiot. Fact is we live in a system where peaceful change is possible. It's difficult but possible, the only option you have left is violence.
Respect to this guy he showed true. Heart. As for the rest that fired him for not shooting him. They need to be thrown out and never allowed to become cops ever again. They are corrupt and need to be put in. A nut house
Where's the "support the police" crowd's outrage at this? It's almost as if they'll only defend cops when they're murdering civilians, not ACTUALLY protecting and serving.
I’m here. I don’t agree with the cops and will defend this man from any and everything because of his actions. What his department did to him is horrendous and should not be tolerated. Other than that I haven’t heard of any department doing this to their officers and if they do, shame on the higher up officers and the chief and mayor for letting it happen.
Nicolette Del Palacio It's quite the opposite for majority of people. The only reason why you see so much hatred is because you're constantly searching for it. When you seek hatred, then that's exactly what you'll get. That's the problem with people today, they search for the things to dislike just to get their blood boiling and pushes them to change their shallow mind and they end up believing that's all there is, but that's simply not true at all, you're just simply lacking in perspective. Instead of focusing on trying to find some stupid reason to hate, maybe you should search for happiness as you'll only dwell and rot in the world of hatred as you'd be too weak to do anything about it in the first place.
Maybe. The police department is saying that the press story is inaccurate: www.scribd.com/document/323894167/2016-Sept-13-Press-Release-City-of-Weirton#from_embed I don't know which is right, but now you know there is another side to be equally aware of.
+Bramble451 Of Coouurrrsse!! They always dispute the factual story if it isn't in their favor. And the entire sick, toxic, corrupted system backs them up.
Both sides seem to agree on this point: he didn't communicate with the other two cops, warning them that the guy had a gun. Yes, they might then just shot the subject, but he was obligated to inform them before anything else that the guy was armed. I could understand canning him just for that. The gun not being loaded is irrelevant, because that could only be determined in hindsight.
That's a damn shame. My fellow Marine gets terminated for doing the RIGHT thing! SMH. If anything, this termination has potentially been a blessing in disguise. I wouldn't want to call cops like that "brother", when they are so quick to do the wrong thing and murder civilians!
adibee88 being told to kill the people he swear to protect and his country from threats when joining the marine, guess he see what the real threat is....
I think people are getting the word "hero" and "super-hero" confused. A hero is someone who shows bravery and courage for a noble cause. A super-hero is a make-believe character that has magical powers and flies around in a skin tight suit and commonly wears a cape.
@Manuel Ruiz How do I say this in a way that someone with a small brain like you can understand?... "U sux, go an dye" Sorry, not sure if I matched your stupidity, hope there was no translation issues
That is terrible. So, they are basically trained to be judge and jury and executioner on the streets. So, if you call the police to help a family member, don't expect that family member to survive the "help".
I mean you can call but don’t expect it to turn out great if the family member is waving around a handgun. I don’t think he should’ve been fired, but your statement shows how ignorant you are. What would you have done, if you walk into a scene with no idea what’s going on and a guy points a handgun at you. Hell I would try to protect myself in the fastest way possible. And that just so happens to be the officers handgun
Protect: that means wear bullet proof vests, carry a loaded gun at all times, and don't be afraid to use it on whoever you feel the urge to. But most importantly serve: treat yourself to donuts, coffee, and human punching bags whenever you feel the slightest temptation, or better yet human firearm targets...
I guess you missed the supreme court ruling a few years ago. "It is no longer the role of police to protect citizens, only to enforce laws" - SCOTUS 2005 Google it.
Instead of giving this American hero the chance to neutralize the situation without incident or violence they kill a poor innocent man, and fire him...this injustice system is beyond belief,they could have given him a promotion as a negotiator.
Ivan Martinez *beside* And why? Cause he didn’t kill a dood with an unloaded gun? The other cops waltzed in and capped a dood whom not only needed help but wasn’t an immediate threat. No time was spent by the others to assess the situation. Which is exactly what the marine did. I’d rather have a marine by my side than a civilian with minimal training and no regard for those in need.
Imnotcleverenough Forthisnameshit you never know he was unloaded until after the threat is over, and what’s the danger of being around suicidal people? Look at the Las Vegas shooter he killed 50+ people then shot himself. Yeah you try being a cop.
Ivan Martinez they didn’t even sort of try to defuse the situation. They just popped him. When they sign up to protect and serve it should be those in need of help who take priority. They knew what they signed up for and the risks involved. If you’re not prepared to die in the line of duty you shouldn’t be a cop. Exactly why I am not. Cause I like to live. And I definitely wouldn’t want to work with dirty inhumane cops.
Imnotcleverenough Forthisnameshit this liberal news outlet doesn’t even show the video. I’m pretty sure if they show the video the guy shows a threat and if he didn’t threat and stayed still then yeah the police would be in the wrong. Police shouldn’t be prepared to die to save a life of a criminal.
He did right and he'll be able to sleep at night. It's going to be okay for him, he's going to get a better job than this, this just wasn't the job for him.
+Flower Child You're right, and the problem with this story isn't with the cop, he got out without having to go against his own morals. It's with the system and his superiors that push to kill, and are allowed to remove anyone that refuses to do so, without consequence. Rob Alexander should be the one being removed from his position, not Mader.
....the problem isnt 1 guy losing his job. it shows how deeply fucked the system is. the worst part is most americans act like you. ignoring the systematic problem. p.s. ( someone died in the story....)
i last read that he is trying to get a trucking job now, i hope things work out after this media attention because he did the right thing and got fired
This proves that US society is sick. It members or many of them are healthy but the society itself it very, very sick. Nothing but money, wars, drugs, killing, poverty and prisons. Where is doctor Bernie when we need him. He has been sidelined by the sickness of some of its people . We thought Obama was the answer. But no he was not strong enough.
@@michaelklockner8539, it makes the person praying feel like they did something about it. Then they walk away patting themselves on the back, trying to convince themselves that they'll go to heaven.
@@artcircus4772 what happen to the police officer? Did you know they can assault black people? They like hurting them they don't respect them it happens in america you can't trust them. I heard they attacked a black man and his skull was split literally they could have killed him but he survived.
It sounds like more officers need to be recruited from military backgrounds because they know what it is like to be in real danger and how to handle it with out going nuts.
+gnarki111 ...and the same government that sent them to war won't give them the help they need. They use our sons, daughters, brothers, sisters as pawns and all we get is a triangle flag in a nice box. America has a tradition of repeating stupid blocks in history. Tuskegee Airmen went to fight for the country only to come back and be treated like shit. These soldiers come back suffering trauma and the government does the bare minimum for them or makes them jump through hoops to get some bastardized version of therapy.
Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. When my brother was in the service the rules of engagement were 'shoot anything that moves', and you run into the issue of PTSD quite often among the front line soldiers. So you would really have to vet them to make sure they are fit to be police officers.
The point also is that they feel like they have already proven themselves. There are cops who join thinking its going to be like TV busting bad guys and that is the wrong reason to join. They lack the discipline that the military instills. You do not join law enforcement to get some action. You join to serve the community. Give them the Barney Fife treatment and just give them one bullet. They will be a lot less inclined to shoot.
This is ridiculous . The officer saved his life, prevented the mentally ill man to be be killed by an officer. The two other other officer should be investigated ,
It's just the media be more scared for the people for sure the cops story's are just people doing bad things then it gets turned on cops for being white and shooting a black man
You very obviously know nothing about police and only learn from the media. Cops don’t shoot people just for the fact that they’re black or the cop wants to kill someone. The cops know they have nothing to gain from doing so
People should click on 1:00 and look at this man that was unnecessarily killed. That man, was killed. And did not have to die. His murderer had a badge, and a status that elevated them above the law. How can anyone, ANYONE not admit that this is a recurring case. Day after day. And just blow it off as either, "Oh well they had to." Imagine their wife or their husband who had fallen under depression, become suicidal, got SHOT BY THE POLICE. And the reaction to it all is just a "Threat TERMINATED. JOB WELL DONE." This is sick. Just sick.
You can't trust our police either - during the Calgary Stampede, Three people were brutally beat by police, and although no one died all three were extremely unnecessary. This is how it starts.
Karlee Ainslie British police are the nicest if there were a suicidal situation the British police would negotiate if that doesn't work out they would use non leathals
They do it all the time. I'm 40 and when i was 17 i had a horrible bout with depression and anxiety. I was in such a hole that i was actually scared i might kill myself. I knew i needed help and i just needed someone to talk to so i called a suicide hotline. Low and behold, i end up with 5 car loads of cops walking up to my door WITH GUNS DRAWN! i freaked tf out cuz i was thinking in my head that i need help, i don't need to fkin die so I hid in my crawlspace and pretended no one was home until they left. I was scared to fkin death when they showed up like that and no weapon at all was even mentioned on the phone, just that I was so in a hole that I was contemplating suicide. Needless to say, I've NEVER nor will i EVER CONTACT ANYONE IF I FELT THAT WAY AGAIN ESPECIALLY A SUICIDE HOTLINE AND DEF NOT THE MOB IN BLUE. I also make sure that if someone comes to me feeling suicidal I stress intensely how they SHOULD NEVER CONTACT THE POLICE OR A HOTLINE NO MATTER HOW BAD IT GETS! CALL ME AND WE'LL TALK! looking back, knowing what I know now, I'm glad I didn't answer the door or I would've most certainty be killed on the spot
The cops would show up even if she called 911. That's what happens in my city. We had to call cause my dad swallowed 30 ambien and they came and treated it like he was a drug addict overdosing not a mentally ill man suffering.
I agree, she should have never called police. I think many are programmed to call police for domestic and psychological issues other than just property issue.
tasha80mgr He was saved, but he's not okay. He's severely bipolar, he stops eating and sits in the dark or outside for hours. When they took him to the hospital when he overdosed they treated him like shit and they never called us he had to walk home. They stuck him in the mental hospital which is hell on earth. I'm bipolar as well, but my treatment began when I was a teenager, he went untreated till his late 30's. The psychiatrist basically told us " He may not have much time left, he is starting to show signs of dimentia." My dad is 60 now. I just hate, hate the system. It's failed my father for so long and it's failed me as well I can't get medicaid and my meds cost money.
O yeah! 'You said your brother has suicidal intentions? Ok ... we will help him make it easier... pow pow! Done! Ok mam'! Next time you have the same problem don't hesitate to call us... we will deal with your problems...'
I don't think Cenk or OP were calling this a murder, but I think the PD's eagerness to get rid of the officer is definitely suspicious, given as they normally have a pretty high tolerance for misbehavior. So, honest question: can you elaborate on his long list of issues separate from this incident?
+Lycan Broadcasting Network They came up with a bunch of reasons to get rid of him. Cops lie on record, oaths, tickets, all kinds of things all the time. They call it "covering your ass." Its part of what they are trained to do so the department doesnt get sued all the time;
TheCrap um sir your dumb he was technically unarmed because the gun was not loaded sooo he was unarmed THANK YOU and your still not allowed to harm someone if they don't harm you first that's the Law sir
Christopher Ryan Curtis gun was at his side, aimed at the ground. They're trained not to fire unless there is a clear threat. As in gun pointed at them.
I bet all those "outraged" by Kaepernick sitting down are going to be mum about this. I'm waiting for the right wing outrage that is never going to happen.....but yeah, these are the people that are "pro-cop"
"WHY IS HE DISRESPECTING THE FLAG DEPORT HIM DAMN IT" 😒 their making the problem about the flag not what it truly represents which kapernick is practicing, the freedom of speech, simple
Logan Joseph LOL cops never saved mY life ,when I got stabbed ,I stabb man who did it after ,police didn’t even ask me how he looks they just sad ok we gonna see
Cruz, my own history would seem to make me anti cop, but I never have been. Even the smart crooks know we have to have the PD, otherwise we'd spend most of our time looking over our shoulders for "our ever so trusty crime partners"!
It should be a requirement that cops go through the military b4 joining, that way there will be jobs for those military personnel coming home & those that are in the reserve. Military train their people to be more discipline than the police academy.
Until recently, that was considered to be a very bad idea. Just think of the phrase "militarized police." What we are experiencing now is a bit unusual, in that law enforcement officers with military backgrounds are better prepared than their civilian trained coworkers. This really is not how it tends to work in human society for much of human history, otherwise we wouldn't even have a division between civilian and military law enforcement. Stated in a different way, our criminal justice system is so fucked up that we would probably be safer under military rule. At some point, more people will come to take that as the literal truth, and they will then try to usher in an age of military rule.
PTSD would make the police 10 times worse, people have to be in the military for years before they come back. You would have officers feeling like they're back in the war zone, bad idea
Call Me Soul , yeah, but the point is that even with PTSD flashbacks, they'll probably shoot fewer people. Compare that regular cops who are basically thugs playing out their military-commando movie fantasies in American cities without any real training.
XxFreshWolfiexX right? They weren't even in there at the time. He was handling the situation perfectly, then the two cops came in and shot a guy who was more of a threat to himself than the cops
don't donate to this account, this guy is scamming! Donate directly to the man and his family not to a gofundme from a 3rd party that promises to give the money to the family.
don't cops have radios/ear pieces that they can communicate to each other with? surely the two new cops could have spoken via radio to the 1st responder to find out what the situation was, surely when responding to a call, the information given by the civilian who called for help is passed on to the cops? I just dont understand how mistakes like this can be made? US police training must be the worst in the world!
When the cops arrived at the scene and a guy is waving a firearm at him they 100% should’ve shot the guy, regardless if the gun was unloaded. At that point not even mater knew that the gun was unloaded so even if they had information they should’ve shot to protect themselves.
Exactly. A suicidal man’s sister calls the cops and one cop came over. The officers must have noticed that the gun was not pointed towards anyone, and that the police officer had not drawn his. The police were called on a suicide situation, and the veteran realised that he wants the cops to shoot him. The cops get there, already being informed of the suicide threat, and kill the poor guy. Then, the cop with training gets fired for putting 2 officers in danger. How is this just? If the gun was loaded, the cops should have kept the guns ready, but not shoot. Imagine if cops were getting ready to start shooting you, and you realized that if you even dropped the gun, you would go to prison, he would shoot.
You know, I know this comment is a year old but I think everybody here missed the point. His name is Sir Underbridge. What lives under a bridge? A troll. You all just got trolled and didn't even realize.
Don't call the cops for help. People gotta start remembering that. They are not there to help you. They don't want to help you. Stop calling the cops for help.
Redlife666 That is the truth! A friend of mine was in a "cop" family. He told me that they are trained and ordered to look for a felony, at every call they respond to... It doesn't matter what, they are there to find tnt felony, and if they don't get enough of them in a certain time period, or enough misdemeanors, then they agree FIRED. That right there, is a damn conflict of interest. That right there, is a quota. I have a police scanner, and I listen to it now and again, and I hear different cops, calling in license plates back to back all day, everyday... and then when the license plate shows that there is a warrant or no license driver driving the car I hear them call back about 5 minutes later in a traffic stop. those cops are calling in people's plates looking for the trouble and pulling them over without reasonable cause. f****** b******* The judges, cops, and prosecutor's in my City are corrupt. HELL the ACLU is trying to civil suit them on being corrupt. One of these days, everyone is going to start pushing back... I can't wait. People who abuse power make me sick, and quite pissed off. nuff said.
Based on Mader's analysis, the young man couldn't take his own life and was hoping for a suicide by cop situation. Everyone PLEASE pray for the heart and mind of his girlfriend who called the cops, now realizing she helped facilitate her loved one's own death.
So he was fired for using discernment. In the military, they are trained in more vigorous situations. He did a tour in war, so he has dealt with reality. I live in a military area, and it is so different here. They do not judge by color, they try to judge by the situation. We have low death rate, low crime, maybe because the most of them are veterans of the military. They are taught to deescalate a situation, not go and shot
Yeah, our military is the best. Can you say My Lai, or Native American genocide, just to name a few. You might want to step down from your high horse for a moment.
@@garybauer124 Just to make sure you weren't targeting your statement towards mine. You can not speak of my ancestors on any topic. Get off YOUR high horse if that was geared towards me. Don't come for me unless I call for you
+Metal8Ball yea i just read why you're saying that. why wouldnt the young turks include all the details of this story. i mean even though he had other offenses its still his word against the other police officers in this particular case. UGH i hate when they dont tell us everything, im going to stop commenting
This is not a training problem insomuch as it is a hiring problem. Police forces will not hire any individual who has an IQ over 100 or less than 80 with the exception being military service. If you ask for a citation of this "I" can not give you one. However the last time I brought this up several others were able to find ample corroboration and citations for the claim. This practice has been around since the early 90's and because police forces promote from within the cancer has spread to the highest levels which is perfectly evidenced by an officer being fired for not killing what is ostensibly an unarmed man. A change in training is not going to correct this problem the system needs to be gutted and rebuilt.
New York Daily News has more info. Firstly in my opinion it sounds like Stephen is nothing short of a hero and I would hope a man like him with his compassion would have stopped by my house if I or a family member was theoretically having a mental break down. I can not speak for the Seattle p.d. But as a resident, I would be honored to have him on our streets. All that said The New York Daily stated: " It also accused him of acting improperly in two other situations earlier this year. The letter said Mader allegedly swore at a woman while arresting her husband, and failed to report the apparently fatal fall of an elderly woman as suspicious. Mader said he was never given a chance to explain his action in either case. Mader worked for the department for less than one year. It is unclear if he had any official complaint on his disciplinary record. Weirton police did not immediately return requests for comment." So just wanted to add that part of the story. And I believe Stephen should have gotten a chance to tell his side. Wrongful termination in my opinion. And that is just my personal outlook. Thnx.
That's an important find, Marvin! Definitely needs to be made more widely known. The statement may or may not be the way things actually happened, but it's important to hear both sides!
Yes, it could have been extra stuff made up by the police depatment to get rid of Stephen un fairly. Or it could be partly true. We don't know because it was omitted from some parts of the media including TYT. Thanks guys and Marvin for the extra addition.
Like +Katie_Johnson said, the department might have used these other two incidents to further justify firing the guy. The department might also have reported these incidents AFTER he was fired, so as to further discredit the guy. The great irony in the latter situation is that the only time they actually use their internal review process to punish other cops, is when it is politically motivated.
The mayor of that city needs to resign, the police chief, and whoever else didn't go to bat for that officer and a gentleman needs to be fired themselves.
The man wasn't a threat to them, the man was only a threat to himself, he was suicidal, the police was only called to help him not kill him, this officer could have saved his life, and the man wasn't pointing the gun at anyone and they knew it was not loaded, this is unacceptable, the other officer should have been fired
that's a damn shame! they fired a great cop. The people that made that decision need to read Blink by Malcolm Gladwell. They are what's wrong with the police force.
I think the cop deserved to be fired, you can't have a liability like him in the force. What if he does it again? He's not just putting his life in danger but others. I agree with you guys that he did the right thing but we only knew this with hindsight, it was a very stupid and risky move the cop pulled and could have easily gone very very wrong.
The point isn't that he was compensated, but rather a horrible injustice was done, more like this will continue if something isn't done about it! The system as a whole needs change! Being a civil SERVANT isn't a "VIDEO GAME!" These police officers are paid by the people, to "serve and protect" the people!!!
This means that if you have a suicidal friend or relative, you know that calling a cop to help is ensuring their death. What should someone in that situation do?
literally ANYTHING other than calling the police lol. Actually... I would be put off from telling anyone how i felt... just in case they did the police lol
the police must assume someone is in danger, anyone threatening their life is mentally unstable only call the cops if you think another life is in danger
Come on, this is ridiculous‼️ WHY ARE THEY FIRING A COP THAT DOES AN INCREDIBLE JOB⁉️ He SHOULD BE Used for a Training example of a Job Done PERFECTLY!! The Force HAD TO Make Him Look BAD, So that the Other Officers Look Good~ it’s a lot EASIER TO FIRE 1 then to Open an investigation & have a Law Suit for the Other Cops that KILLED Mr. Williams!! I’m TERRIBLY SAD & SICK THAT THE GUY WAS KILLED (suicide) BY COPS & ALSO THAT THE COP WAS FIRED FOR NOT KILLING HIM FIRST‼️‼️ HE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN KILLED AT ALL‼️ This police Dept NEEDS WHOM EVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR FIRING THIS GREAT COP, TO BE FIRED HIS-SELF‼️
Well I think some people dislike videos because they're angry at the story itself and not the video covering it. Facebook recently adopted a system where you can show how you felt about a post via an emoticon. I don't see the harm in RUclips adopting that ssystem,
I was born and raised in WVa and I'm an Army Veteran as well. I am deeply offended that any police department would fire an employee for trying to de-escalate the situation.
The police chief should be the one fired
So right
Yes and sent to prison.
Cops are the biggest gang in the world murdering is what they do if they would give the cribs badges they could do a better job
moral of the story: In America, fire or be fired.
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oh now I get it , fire or get fired lol .
This is a huge issue. But it isn't even just training. It's that we've let the laws be changed to this point. Where it's legal for them to kill just about anyone just as long as they "feel threatened," etc. Wake up folks! The funny thing is...things are sliding this way, and a bunch of people want to make sure that we can't have guns any longer. Because we "don't need them" and the police will take care of us? Riiiiiiight.
great profile picture.
ESPECIALLY IF HE IS BLACK, SHOOT. In West Virginia and in the POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE THREAT was never an UNLOADED GUN, because the guys
that shot up the theater in Colorado with a gun lived, the man that shot up
that Black church in South Carolina with a gun lived, and any MASS SHOOTING
THAT INVOLVED WHITE MEN LIVED, and NO COPS WERE FIRED. Thus, in this case the THREAT WAS NEVER THE GUN, IT WAS THE BLACK MAN that he failed to SHOOT!.
cop knew he was suicidal so he didn’t shoot him.props to the cop
Notice how the Termination Letter said "Eliminate a threat", not "Neutralize the threat".
Right. And he was a soldier before. That used to be his job, to eliminate threats. How is it he can differentiate between actions of war and serving and protecting the public, yet his supposed superiors can't?
@@mjfranolich3681 hes seen war as a man, they have not and would rather play a safe proxy war just safe enough to get their cox hurd, you usually see these type of worms as government officials, politicians, most anyone with even a drop of power in their boring lives
Duhh, if a threat is neutralized it's no longer a threat, and is eliminated.
@@zeke1220 neutralizing a threat doesn't mean eliminating if you put a guy in handcuffs you have neutralized a threat please expand your vocabulary
@@Nemesis1x1 If you put a guy in handcuffs he's just a guy, not a threat. The threat has been eliminated.
I teared up when he says "I'm not gonna shoot you brother."
Me too
Thanks for your honesty. I too felt the feeling
me too
The only thing that can top this is if a cop kills himself instead of shooting a suspect. That would be a statement.
Daniel Young lol
That police chief should be fired instantly. The message is real clear now...
Seize the police department as a community and reform. They can’t do anything about it unless they all wanna be murderers.
Kyle Carr yeah because that totally would go over perfect and not cause any type of conflict
@@cillwrelia1191 we need it fr. Militia takeover of the gov.
Kyle Carr they are murderers. That’s the point
notuagain15 wouldn’t be any better
PA please hire this brave man... this is the cop i want to see when i drive and take my son to school.... you sir are a real hero!
Push for it, push for those who are fired , or disciplined for doing the right thing, and support them. Cultivate its seed into the consciousness.
i am also a hero, i never killed a guy LOL
blablabla wait, what?
The cop at least used logic and rationale in the situation.
More humane than most other cops in the country.
Ramiro Avila indeed
Hit men
Cops kill :payed leave
Cops don’t kill : fired
This situation is so strange. First of all it feels counter-productive to be applauding a cop for doing his job, that should be standard. But then the police department fired him? The guy should seek compensation right away.
Unfortunately, doing your job described in the job description apparently isn't standard.
It's standard to shoot people who are going to commit suicide...ironic isn't it. Dumbass system
Nobody commenting on this situation was actually at the seen and saw what actually happened. What we have heard is the version of the story from the guy who was fired. According to BLM, cops all protect each other so I'm not sure how this cop's supervisor even knew he put other people's life in danger.
If we allowed physician assisted suicide and better access to mental health services, cops wouldn't be in this situation as much.
Derek Hall the stories match up dude. The police already said in their public statement the ex-officer wasn't making attempts at shooting the suicidal person.
This is why cops don't speak up when they see corruption. They will be punished. The police in america need total reform. You should have at least a 4 year degree and live in the community you serve period! Idiots get 60 credits in any major and can become a cop. The very issue. We have bums as servants and protectors.
Exactly. They are above the law, they have laws that apply to cops and not civilians....leniency on everything
YASSS man!! They need to be educated about the realities of this systemic racism society we live in. Without that type of education, they will never feel or understand those realities and just assume everyone is "equal".
it wouldn't make a difference, its the politicians who are scared, so they train cops to shoot first and ask questions later. That way if theres a protest cops will shoot first and ask questions later!
Umm the same thing happens in ghetto's but no reform there typical hypocrite
Except ghettos aren't a taxpayer funded organisation meant to carry out a specific job, you're confusing corruption in a professional setting with corruption in a social setting. Hypocrite.
the police sounds like one of the biggest treat on the american streets
That's because the bigger threats provoking them
EXOxBTS_Kings They are the biggest gang in the U.S.
EXOxBTS_Kings Also watch the right, like FOX and Milo. Sounds like it, but that’s bc you’re looking at one perspective, one that hates cops.
I love it! I love that I was right for over 10 years ago! Haha yes! I hope murica burns inside out, hope the terrorist states US kills it self. If you as a criminal country invades other countries and murders their citizen and lying to the public than those politicians and criminals must be put in jail, right? But nope, not in murica. Here they defend their terrorist state and their corrupted politicians, they defend the murdering of civilians in other countries, they defend the invasion of countries (I mean they voted for Trump a racist, sexist scum who would have sex with his own daughter) and for that - justice is served - let it self do that. And we are seeing things like this about cops and citizens conflict all over the US. On every news you would found these stuff and that makes me so happy! Keep it up murica - do us a favor and burn by murdering your own! Like all empires this criminal empire will fall too!
Still waiting for that brave country to bomb the shit out of murica!
@@f3arclan963 That would be you!!!!
So the shining light here is the military training. So let's put police through military training. The academy doesn't seem to be doing its job.
Amber P betcha the killer had military training
Many people can’t do military training and it takes to long but in a perfect world that would be the way to go
It’s not that the academy’s not doing their job it’s just that all politicians are getting there family members and friends all put to the top of the list so it’s all bozos getting the jobs instead of ones who truly want to be an officer and serve there community
u have to find some other countries and declare they have weapon of mass distruction, and send in the military to get experience, and in the mean time u wouldn't find the weapon of mass distruction and killed millions of civilians in the process ruined a coiple og country, lost some of ur boys, and that woild eliminate some oyher countries threat, ur economy would run in gutter in those 15 years, and now u have rising unemployment
It's not a training issue. These cops are instructed to kill black people. This rooky cop actually had a conscious.
Why isn't fox news covering this.
you should already realize by now
O shit I didn't see it on tv yesterday.
Mars and starkiller... it doesn't surprise me that the Fox News website covered this. The Fox News TV channel seems like an entirely different beast from the Fox News website. I love the Fox News website. It's one of the best news sites out there as far as I'm concerned.
What I would be curious to know is if the Fox News *channel* covered it.
Fox News: Yay website... boo TV channel!
Its kinda disturbing a lot of the commentators on fox news site wanted the cop to shoot the guy...
cus they're pro pig
Police motto: escalate and eliminate
dont forget deny and lie :)
you guys are straight up making a rap song
you can add "intimidate" to that list
To punish and enslave
Deaglan Cullen but they cherish when you misbehave
We need more cops
like Stephen Mader!
that cop needs to be the man manager, get a raise and educate cops everywhere!
*FIRED*
welp it's America
Gavin Laster if u look on the article he linked it says all sorts of other issues that got the officer fired, soooooooo I would more say that the media is trying to brainwash you
This is America !!! I'm happy that I'm a Canadian
Luna Smith Ineptitude also exists in the UK. We do have less guns and better cheese though.
Luna Smith You.. don't like cheese? .. VISA revoked. **stamps**
Well, your claiming America is a bad place due to the laws? You don’t enjoy your freedom? You must live in the north, or California. Moving to the UK isn’t what you would think. The cartoons, laws and what’s needed in the RUclips guidelines are strict, Knives, guns and other forms of weapons have to be censored. So, be happy to live in America.
Officers in danger????? DONT BE A POLICE OFFICER IF YOU ARE AFRAID OF DANGER.
"so become a cop and make a difference"
not possible... you have to change the system not the people.... just like Obama being a black president means nothing because the system is the same....
we have systemic issues .. police, government, the market, education, prison... all broken systems
simple minded people dont understand that...
how would you fix it?
Dom Eddy Third option is what happened in this story and a cop doing his job properly, is forced out because it makes the others nervous theat they won't get on it.
TYT ran the story about the cop a few years ago who stopped her partner from choking a young boy and was forced out because of it.
Ving Rhames exactly... you become the enemy and you get black listed, ending your career...
"So become a cop and make a difference"
Except when you try to do just that, you are no longer a cop
You are an idiot. Fact is we live in a system where peaceful change is possible. It's difficult but possible, the only option you have left is violence.
Respect to this guy he showed true. Heart. As for the rest that fired him for not shooting him. They need to be thrown out and never allowed to become cops ever again. They are corrupt and need to be put in. A nut house
First time I see tyt like a comment
I asked my friend about this (being Australian and not in law enforcement) it turns out that they would of faced criminal charges
He sounds like a cop who might turn in other corrupt cops so he had to go.
The NYPD still hate Serpico.
thats excactly what it was man
cdelaine what do u mean? Do u mean that the other cop fired him because Mader was a threat to their jobs because he could do his job but they cant
Yep.
Probably more like the only way they can substantiate the killing is by saying the first cop wasn't following protocol.
Where's the "support the police" crowd's outrage at this? It's almost as if they'll only defend cops when they're murdering civilians, not ACTUALLY protecting and serving.
Perfect
I’m here. I don’t agree with the cops and will defend this man from any and everything because of his actions. What his department did to him is horrendous and should not be tolerated. Other than that I haven’t heard of any department doing this to their officers and if they do, shame on the higher up officers and the chief and mayor for letting it happen.
I agree with you.
Nicolette Del Palacio what a cancer comment
Nicolette Del Palacio It's quite the opposite for majority of people. The only reason why you see so much hatred is because you're constantly searching for it. When you seek hatred, then that's exactly what you'll get. That's the problem with people today, they search for the things to dislike just to get their blood boiling and pushes them to change their shallow mind and they end up believing that's all there is, but that's simply not true at all, you're just simply lacking in perspective. Instead of focusing on trying to find some stupid reason to hate, maybe you should search for happiness as you'll only dwell and rot in the world of hatred as you'd be too weak to do anything about it in the first place.
that whole dept is sick
System*
Did you say that a few months ago when unarmed men were shot?
Maybe. The police department is saying that the press story is inaccurate: www.scribd.com/document/323894167/2016-Sept-13-Press-Release-City-of-Weirton#from_embed
I don't know which is right, but now you know there is another side to be equally aware of.
+Bramble451 Of Coouurrrsse!! They always dispute the factual story if it isn't in their favor. And the entire sick, toxic, corrupted system backs them up.
Both sides seem to agree on this point: he didn't communicate with the other two cops, warning them that the guy had a gun. Yes, they might then just shot the subject, but he was obligated to inform them before anything else that the guy was armed.
I could understand canning him just for that. The gun not being loaded is irrelevant, because that could only be determined in hindsight.
That's a damn shame. My fellow Marine gets terminated for doing the RIGHT thing! SMH. If anything, this termination has potentially been a blessing in disguise. I wouldn't want to call cops like that "brother", when they are so quick to do the wrong thing and murder civilians!
Semper... Pray for this Marine.
adibee88 being told to kill the people he swear to protect and his country from threats when joining the marine, guess he see what the real threat is....
If they are not trained to kill then why does it keep happening over & over & over again & again & again. Semper fi.
Not all heroes wear capes.. Also much respect to the commentator,, that believed in the cop!! 💪💪
Exactly aquaman doesn't wear any cape
Orlando Tovar I don’t think any real hero wears a cape.
Orlando Tovar nigga heros don't wear capes anyways because they aren't real idoit
I think people are getting the word "hero" and "super-hero" confused.
A hero is someone who shows bravery and courage for a noble cause.
A super-hero is a make-believe character that has magical powers and flies around in a skin tight suit and commonly wears a cape.
Cruced Are you 9?
he was a marine, their training is the best, unlike cops training, they're trained like cowards
Manuel Ruiz ur a troll
Manuel Ruiz lmao I bet your a cop you ducking scaredy cat
but you see civilian casualties happen by marines too though
@Manuel Ruiz
How do I say this in a way that someone with a small brain like you can understand?...
"U sux, go an dye"
Sorry, not sure if I matched your stupidity, hope there was no translation issues
Zet Cantu Get 'em!
This is why I will never consider visiting the US. It seems crazy over there.
+yemo34 We'll gladly take him over you.
+yemo34 go back to your cave
yemo34 what does that mean?
+Seekarr
Because suicide bombing, stabbing and beheading is much more safe and sane?
You get used to the gunshots after a while.
That is terrible. So, they are basically trained to be judge and jury and executioner on the streets. So, if you call the police to help a family member, don't expect that family member to survive the "help".
SWSimpson Judge Dredd
I mean you can call but don’t expect it to turn out great if the family member is waving around a handgun. I don’t think he should’ve been fired, but your statement shows how ignorant you are. What would you have done, if you walk into a scene with no idea what’s going on and a guy points a handgun at you. Hell I would try to protect myself in the fastest way possible. And that just so happens to be the officers handgun
James Baca he wasnt pointing the gun at them he was waving it around shows how ignorant you statement is
Lol
It happens every day unfortunately
@@klay-boom9730 Judge Dredd was actually intended as a bit of a sci-fi satire of US society.
"protect and serve (ourselves)"
Protect: that means wear bullet proof vests, carry a loaded gun at all times, and don't be afraid to use it on whoever you feel the urge to. But most importantly serve: treat yourself to donuts, coffee, and human punching bags whenever you feel the slightest temptation, or better yet human firearm targets...
Quantum Leap Natural Selection will work its magic on you.
You guys say stuff because like that after reading A Article About cops killing A black man,Do The Research before you say something
I guess "protect" part doesn't matter at this point
neither does the serve... or at least not "serve the people"
"To protect (your fellow cops from prosecution) and serve (yourself, fuck everyone else.)
I guess you missed the supreme court ruling a few years ago. "It is no longer the role of police to protect citizens, only to enforce laws" - SCOTUS 2005
Google it.
homegrownbuddy
They should be fucking hanged for that shit... by police officers of course, since that's legally acceptable by their standards.
You know what, I did google that, and boy, that is an eye opener. So now even if your in trouble, you have even less reason to call the police.
TYT please start a crowd fundraiser for this cop and his family. I would donate to it if I knew it would go to them!
Same x
Instead of giving this American hero the chance to neutralize the situation without incident or violence they kill a poor innocent man, and fire him...this injustice system is beyond belief,they could have given him a promotion as a negotiator.
That dude was a great cop. Wtf! This is some of the best reporting that I've seen on TYT.
HipHopBeatSource I would not feel safe with that cop working besides me.
Ivan Martinez *beside*
And why? Cause he didn’t kill a dood with an unloaded gun? The other cops waltzed in and capped a dood whom not only needed help but wasn’t an immediate threat. No time was spent by the others to assess the situation. Which is exactly what the marine did. I’d rather have a marine by my side than a civilian with minimal training and no regard for those in need.
Imnotcleverenough Forthisnameshit you never know he was unloaded until after the threat is over, and what’s the danger of being around suicidal people? Look at the Las Vegas shooter he killed 50+ people then shot himself. Yeah you try being a cop.
Ivan Martinez they didn’t even sort of try to defuse the situation. They just popped him. When they sign up to protect and serve it should be those in need of help who take priority. They knew what they signed up for and the risks involved. If you’re not prepared to die in the line of duty you shouldn’t be a cop. Exactly why I am not. Cause I like to live. And I definitely wouldn’t want to work with dirty inhumane cops.
Imnotcleverenough Forthisnameshit this liberal news outlet doesn’t even show the video. I’m pretty sure if they show the video the guy shows a threat and if he didn’t threat and stayed still then yeah the police would be in the wrong. Police shouldn’t be prepared to die to save a life of a criminal.
He did right and he'll be able to sleep at night. It's going to be okay for him, he's going to get a better job than this, this just wasn't the job for him.
This should be the *perfect* job for him, he's the kind of officer you should want.
The fact that it isn't the job for him is the whole problem.
+Flower Child You're right, and the problem with this story isn't with the cop, he got out without having to go against his own morals. It's with the system and his superiors that push to kill, and are allowed to remove anyone that refuses to do so, without consequence. Rob Alexander should be the one being removed from his position, not Mader.
....the problem isnt 1 guy losing his job.
it shows how deeply fucked the system is.
the worst part is most americans act like you. ignoring the systematic problem.
p.s. ( someone died in the story....)
you think people like him shouldnt be cops?
its this kind of person that SHOULD be a cop, instead we get playground bullies.
i last read that he is trying to get a trucking job now, i hope things work out after this media attention because he did the right thing and got fired
they need to move this guy to Chicago and make him Chief of Police
SwankFiber 52 or memphis and houston we need people like him all over the dirty south and midwest in troubled cities lol
He shotted his son and their neighbour for no reason watch the other video
wow i thought police were supposed to defuse the bad situation boy was I wrong
I too, learned Andy Griffin show was just fantasy.
WE the public should award this TRUE hero. Some kind of crowd funding thing or something.
We can elect him sheriff and really stick it to those Ahole.
Yeah, we should. If someone starts it, let me know (reply to this thread) with details. I'll donate from Australia.
My thoughts exactly
Looks like there is a GoFundMe, only thing is that it's by a random person and I'm not sure how that works.
This proves that US society is sick. It members or many of them are healthy but the society itself it very, very sick. Nothing but money, wars, drugs, killing, poverty and prisons. Where is doctor Bernie when we need him. He has been sidelined by the sickness of some of its people
. We thought Obama was the answer. But no he was not strong enough.
This is so wrong. Pray for him, he needs it. 😐
Yes,
How does a prayer help?
@@michaelklockner8539, it makes the person praying feel like they did something about it. Then they walk away patting themselves on the back, trying to convince themselves that they'll go to heaven.
@@Mrwhite-u3g yup
@@artcircus4772 what happen to the police officer? Did you know they can assault black people? They like hurting them they don't respect them it happens in america you can't trust them. I heard they attacked a black man and his skull was split literally they could have killed him but he survived.
This just proves the the system is rigged. And I'm supposed to be proud of this country. This makes it hard. Smh
devin williams agree with you bro ...what a shame
"Cop fired for not punishing a crime with another crime"
It sounds like more officers need to be recruited from military backgrounds because they know what it is like to be in real danger and how to handle it with out going nuts.
Funny enough alot of other countries seem to do that.
These cops have demons in them!!
+gnarki111 ...and the same government that sent them to war won't give them the help they need. They use our sons, daughters, brothers, sisters as pawns and all we get is a triangle flag in a nice box. America has a tradition of repeating stupid blocks in history. Tuskegee Airmen went to fight for the country only to come back and be treated like shit. These soldiers come back suffering trauma and the government does the bare minimum for them or makes them jump through hoops to get some bastardized version of therapy.
Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. When my brother was in the service the rules of engagement were 'shoot anything that moves', and you run into the issue of PTSD quite often among the front line soldiers. So you would really have to vet them to make sure they are fit to be police officers.
The point also is that they feel like they have already proven themselves. There are cops who join thinking its going to be like TV busting bad guys and that is the wrong reason to join. They lack the discipline that the military instills. You do not join law enforcement to get some action. You join to serve the community. Give them the Barney Fife treatment and just give them one bullet. They will be a lot less inclined to shoot.
Does Hero Mader have a go fund me account. I want to help him and his family a little.
Me too
What about a go fund me for the dead guy?
stephan mader must meet joe crystal
Same here
Great idea!
This is ridiculous . The officer saved his life, prevented the mentally ill man to be be killed by an officer. The two other other officer should be investigated ,
Sylvie Carpentier If liberals did any research they would know this but the up to us racist bigoted conservatives to give the facts to you ...
They shouldnt be bc they didnt know the gun wasnt loaded but still it was a tragedy
Another miscarriage of Justice all the way around! So sad!
If i went to America, I feel as though i would be scared of the police because of all the corrupted police stories.
It's just the media be more scared for the people for sure the cops story's are just people doing bad things then it gets turned on cops for being white and shooting a black man
Sam King same here and I’m black my chances are worse
You very obviously know nothing about police and only learn from the media. Cops don’t shoot people just for the fact that they’re black or the cop wants to kill someone. The cops know they have nothing to gain from doing so
Spakes I already been to America and had to deal with the cops 🚓 not a pleasant experience
Sam King if you not black you can come , you'll be safe.
People should click on 1:00 and look at this man that was unnecessarily killed. That man, was killed. And did not have to die. His murderer had a badge, and a status that elevated them above the law. How can anyone, ANYONE not admit that this is a recurring case. Day after day. And just blow it off as either, "Oh well they had to." Imagine their wife or their husband who had fallen under depression, become suicidal, got SHOT BY THE POLICE. And the reaction to it all is just a "Threat TERMINATED. JOB WELL DONE." This is sick. Just sick.
And is exactly the reason I'm happy I live in Canada and not the US. You can't trust people or the police there!
I so agree,so so sad! smdh 😥🙁😖😔😠😡
You can't trust our police either - during the Calgary Stampede, Three people were brutally beat by police, and although no one died all three were extremely unnecessary. This is how it starts.
Karlee Ainslie British police are the nicest if there were a suicidal situation the British police would negotiate if that doesn't work out they would use non leathals
How do you kill a man who needs your help
Mtb Ridingog Simple, with kindness.
*murica*
they didn't know that tho
They do it all the time. I'm 40 and when i was 17 i had a horrible bout with depression and anxiety. I was in such a hole that i was actually scared i might kill myself. I knew i needed help and i just needed someone to talk to so i called a suicide hotline. Low and behold, i end up with 5 car loads of cops walking up to my door WITH GUNS DRAWN! i freaked tf out cuz i was thinking in my head that i need help, i don't need to fkin die so I hid in my crawlspace and pretended no one was home until they left. I was scared to fkin death when they showed up like that and no weapon at all was even mentioned on the phone, just that I was so in a hole that I was contemplating suicide. Needless to say, I've NEVER nor will i EVER CONTACT ANYONE IF I FELT THAT WAY AGAIN ESPECIALLY A SUICIDE HOTLINE AND DEF NOT THE MOB IN BLUE. I also make sure that if someone comes to me feeling suicidal I stress intensely how they SHOULD NEVER CONTACT THE POLICE OR A HOTLINE NO MATTER HOW BAD IT GETS! CALL ME AND WE'LL TALK! looking back, knowing what I know now, I'm glad I didn't answer the door or I would've most certainty be killed on the spot
How do you kill a man who needs your help??? That's what police do! That's ALL they do!
And cops are supposed to represent justice... smh. I give all my respect to the marine, great job soldier. I wish there were more like you
The first mistake was the sister calling the cops. Their job is NOT to help you or your family.
The cops would show up even if she called 911. That's what happens in my city. We had to call cause my dad swallowed 30 ambien and they came and treated it like he was a drug addict overdosing not a mentally ill man suffering.
I agree, she should have never called police. I think many are programmed to call police for domestic and psychological issues other than just property issue.
+Snow Anaya (NeoWaste) that's horrible, is your dad ok.
Actually you are allowed to call 911 if someone is suicidal...
tasha80mgr He was saved, but he's not okay. He's severely bipolar, he stops eating and sits in the dark or outside for hours.
When they took him to the hospital when he overdosed they treated him like shit and they never called us he had to walk home. They stuck him in the mental hospital which is hell on earth.
I'm bipolar as well, but my treatment began when I was a teenager, he went untreated till his late 30's. The psychiatrist basically told us " He may not have much time left, he is starting to show signs of dimentia." My dad is 60 now. I just hate, hate the system. It's failed my father for so long and it's failed me as well I can't get medicaid and my meds cost money.
Punishment for attempted suicide? DEATH 😯🔫💀
Gaun Eff Kinnee-Dee makes BLOODY sense right?
O yeah! 'You said your brother has suicidal intentions? Ok ... we will help him make it easier... pow pow! Done! Ok mam'! Next time you have the same problem don't hesitate to call us... we will deal with your problems...'
+George George ..True dat !!
Wow I agree with Cenk this time
haha
Same ^_^
I don't think Cenk or OP were calling this a murder, but I think the PD's eagerness to get rid of the officer is definitely suspicious, given as they normally have a pretty high tolerance for misbehavior. So, honest question: can you elaborate on his long list of issues separate from this incident?
+Lycan Broadcasting Network
They came up with a bunch of reasons to get rid of him. Cops lie on record, oaths, tickets, all kinds of things all the time. They call it "covering your ass." Its part of what they are trained to do so the department doesnt get sued all the time;
Cops aren't allowed to harm a civilian unless they harm the cop first or pose a threat to an officer. And the man was unarmed
XxFreshWolfiexX um he had a gun
TheCrap um sir your dumb he was technically unarmed because the gun was not loaded sooo he was unarmed THANK YOU and your still not allowed to harm someone if they don't harm you first that's the Law sir
Christopher Ryan Curtis gun was at his side, aimed at the ground. They're trained not to fire unless there is a clear threat. As in gun pointed at them.
At least, you need to hear a gunshot to know that the guy have the loaded gun
They basically saved the guy from suiciding by shooting him themselves.
This is the Kaepernick protest. The system is broken.
I bet all those "outraged" by Kaepernick sitting down are going to be mum about this. I'm waiting for the right wing outrage that is never going to happen.....but yeah, these are the people that are "pro-cop"
"WHY IS HE DISRESPECTING THE FLAG DEPORT HIM DAMN IT" 😒 their making the problem about the flag not what it truly represents which kapernick is practicing, the freedom of speech, simple
I hate cops but this guy deserves my respect.
no he obviously means he hates most cops
Logan Joseph LOL cops never saved mY life ,when I got stabbed ,I stabb man who did it after ,police didn’t even ask me how he looks they just sad ok we gonna see
Cruz, my own history would seem to make me anti cop, but I never have been. Even the smart crooks know we have to have the PD, otherwise we'd spend most of our time looking over our shoulders for "our ever so trusty crime partners"!
It should be a requirement that cops go through the military b4 joining, that way there will be jobs for those military personnel coming home & those that are in the reserve. Military train their people to be more discipline than the police academy.
Until recently, that was considered to be a very bad idea. Just think of the phrase "militarized police." What we are experiencing now is a bit unusual, in that law enforcement officers with military backgrounds are better prepared than their civilian trained coworkers. This really is not how it tends to work in human society for much of human history, otherwise we wouldn't even have a division between civilian and military law enforcement.
Stated in a different way, our criminal justice system is so fucked up that we would probably be safer under military rule. At some point, more people will come to take that as the literal truth, and they will then try to usher in an age of military rule.
PTSD would make the police 10 times worse, people have to be in the military for years before they come back. You would have officers feeling like they're back in the war zone, bad idea
Call Me Soul , yeah, but the point is that even with PTSD flashbacks, they'll probably shoot fewer people.
Compare that regular cops who are basically thugs playing out their military-commando movie fantasies in American cities without any real training.
nameis2 always
"He put two policemen in danger"
Even tho as soon as they walk in they kill him WHAT!!!
XxFreshWolfiexX right? They weren't even in there at the time. He was handling the situation perfectly, then the two cops came in and shot a guy who was more of a threat to himself than the cops
Dexeron Starsurge Facts
Is there anywhere we can donate to this cop? A Crowdfund etc?
don't donate to this account, this guy is scamming! Donate directly to the man and his family not to a gofundme from a 3rd party that promises to give the money to the family.
don't cops have radios/ear pieces that they can communicate to each other with? surely the two new cops could have spoken via radio to the 1st responder to find out what the situation was, surely when responding to a call, the information given by the civilian who called for help is passed on to the cops? I just dont understand how mistakes like this can be made? US police training must be the worst in the world!
Jo White cops are retarded.
When the cops arrived at the scene and a guy is waving a firearm at him they 100% should’ve shot the guy, regardless if the gun was unloaded. At that point not even mater knew that the gun was unloaded so even if they had information they should’ve shot to protect themselves.
Matthew Shin you're an idiot
Exactly. A suicidal man’s sister calls the cops and one cop came over. The officers must have noticed that the gun was not pointed towards anyone, and that the police officer had not drawn his. The police were called on a suicide situation, and the veteran realised that he wants the cops to shoot him. The cops get there, already being informed of the suicide threat, and kill the poor guy. Then, the cop with training gets fired for putting 2 officers in danger. How is this just? If the gun was loaded, the cops should have kept the guns ready, but not shoot. Imagine if cops were getting ready to start shooting you, and you realized that if you even dropped the gun, you would go to prison, he would shoot.
Matthew Shin, also the gun was pointed towards the floor, not being waved at police.
I'm certain it's not the only instance Mader has been at odds with the other cops. It's obviously an excuse to get rid of him for something else.
I was thinking about this too. Anyway, what happened to Officer Mader is clearly abhorrent.
He makes them look bad by not having shot.
Their PR department so fucked they think if they don't shoot people it'll look bad?
you know, in Canada, it's against the law to fire someone based on their military history!
Mader should get a medal and a better job. The Officers who killed that an and the chief should all get fired. That would send a message.
Never call the police for a mental health issue. It will end in the death of your loved one 95% of the time.
Protect and serve... What happened to protect?
Cait Very liberal argument
Sir Underbridge nerd
K T. Protect not you or me that's the meaning
Sir Underbridge but he knew the man was no harm so that makes no dumb.
You know, I know this comment is a year old but I think everybody here missed the point. His name is Sir Underbridge. What lives under a bridge? A troll. You all just got trolled and didn't even realize.
Don't call the cops for help. People gotta start remembering that. They are not there to help you. They don't want to help you. Stop calling the cops for help.
i call them if i want someone dead. Lol
Redlife666 That is the truth! A friend of mine was in a "cop" family. He told me that they are trained and ordered to look for a felony, at every call they respond to... It doesn't matter what, they are there to find tnt felony, and if they don't get enough of them in a certain time period, or enough misdemeanors, then they agree FIRED. That right there, is a damn conflict of interest. That right there, is a quota. I have a police scanner, and I listen to it now and again, and I hear different cops, calling in license plates back to back all day, everyday... and then when the license plate shows that there is a warrant or no license driver driving the car I hear them call back about 5 minutes later in a traffic stop. those cops are calling in people's plates looking for the trouble and pulling them over without reasonable cause. f****** b******* The judges, cops, and prosecutor's in my City are corrupt. HELL the ACLU is trying to civil suit them on being corrupt. One of these days, everyone is going to start pushing back... I can't wait. People who abuse power make me sick, and quite pissed off. nuff said.
only the weak needs cops
If he starts a GoFundMe, I'd fund it. If I had a job to offer him, then I totally would.
www.gofundme.com/StephenMader
The chief should be fired and put behind bars for this
Wow that's so sad. Hopefully that officer can get his job back. He's the epitome of an amazing officer.
+Tommy Gunz, II link???
no he wasn't
Based on Mader's analysis, the young man couldn't take his own life and was hoping for a suicide by cop situation. Everyone PLEASE pray for the heart and mind of his girlfriend who called the cops, now realizing she helped facilitate her loved one's own death.
Yea she might as well have pulled the trigger.
never call the cops to a suicide situation , if the person has a weapon and refuses to give it up, there is only one way that will end
Franz Ferdinand for American cops
this country has gone to shit
Daniel Herreria gone to shit, when was the country not shit lol
chebob 123
BAHAHAHAHHA Savage!!!
Daniel Herreria your brain has gone to shit, your being brainwashed by a liberal left wing piece of shit RUclipsr
Ivan Martinez this country always has been shit
So he was fired for using discernment. In the military, they are trained in more vigorous situations. He did a tour in war, so he has dealt with reality. I live in a military area, and it is so different here. They do not judge by color, they try to judge by the situation. We have low death rate, low crime, maybe because the most of them are veterans of the military. They are taught to deescalate a situation, not go and shot
Yeah, our military is the best. Can you say My Lai, or Native American genocide, just to name a few. You might want to step down from your high horse for a moment.
@@garybauer124 Just to make sure you weren't targeting your statement towards mine. You can not speak of my ancestors on any topic. Get off YOUR high horse if that was geared towards me. Don't come for me unless I call for you
I hope the guy in the story sees this video so he knows he has people backing him up!!
It's so dam hard to get a bad cop even suspended without pay. This is truly shocking that they dismissed him entirely.
unbelievable. crazy. society is unhinging.
I be so damn glad when this world ends, so that I could hear the piggs roasting in hell👮🏼🐷🐷🐷👮🏼
it does feel that way
+Metal8Ball yea i just read why you're saying that. why wouldnt the young turks include all the details of this story. i mean even though he had other offenses its still his word against the other police officers in this particular case. UGH i hate when they dont tell us everything, im going to stop commenting
That's it, moving to Canada
And, of course you didn't.
This is not a training problem insomuch as it is a hiring problem. Police forces will not hire any individual who has an IQ over 100 or less than 80 with the exception being military service. If you ask for a citation of this "I" can not give you one. However the last time I brought this up several others were able to find ample corroboration and citations for the claim. This practice has been around since the early 90's and because police forces promote from within the cancer has spread to the highest levels which is perfectly evidenced by an officer being fired for not killing what is ostensibly an unarmed man. A change in training is not going to correct this problem the system needs to be gutted and rebuilt.
Metal8Ball this story actually is not false and if you would like i could go ahead and issue a slandering proclamation against you.
IQ dosent mean shit stop using IQ to make yourself seem better when it’s not even the most accurate way
Actually if u don't pass the psychological test you are not allowed to be a cop. Maybe a mall cop
Blair Millington This is a pretty big claim to just say "well, I can't prove it, but just take my word for it".
New York Daily News has more info. Firstly in my opinion it sounds like Stephen is nothing short of a hero and I would hope a man like him with his compassion would have stopped by my house if I or a family member was theoretically having a mental break down. I can not speak for the Seattle p.d. But as a resident, I would be honored to have him on our streets. All that said The New York Daily stated: " It also accused him of acting improperly in two other situations earlier this year. The letter said Mader allegedly swore at a woman while arresting her husband, and failed to report the apparently fatal fall of an elderly woman as suspicious. Mader said he was never given a chance to explain his action in either case.
Mader worked for the department for less than one year. It is unclear if he had any official complaint on his disciplinary record.
Weirton police did not immediately return requests for comment." So just wanted to add that part of the story. And I believe Stephen should have gotten a chance to tell his side. Wrongful termination in my opinion. And that is just my personal outlook. Thnx.
+MarvintheParanoidAndroid great share fam
That's an important find, Marvin! Definitely needs to be made more widely known. The statement may or may not be the way things actually happened, but it's important to hear both sides!
Yes, it could have been extra stuff made up by the police depatment to get rid of Stephen un fairly. Or it could be partly true. We don't know because it was omitted from some parts of the media including TYT. Thanks guys and Marvin for the extra addition.
Like +Katie_Johnson said, the department might have used these other two incidents to further justify firing the guy. The department might also have reported these incidents AFTER he was fired, so as to further discredit the guy.
The great irony in the latter situation is that the only time they actually use their internal review process to punish other cops, is when it is politically motivated.
The mayor of that city needs to resign, the police chief, and whoever else didn't go to bat for that officer and a gentleman needs to be fired themselves.
The man wasn't a threat to them, the man was only a threat to himself, he was suicidal, the police was only called to help him not kill him, this officer could have saved his life, and the man wasn't pointing the gun at anyone and they knew it was not loaded, this is unacceptable, the other officer should have been fired
They didn't know that it was unloaded only after the shooting did they know
that's a damn shame! they fired a great cop. The people that made that decision need to read Blink by Malcolm Gladwell. They are what's wrong with the police force.
Open Season he was fired for more other reasons on his past record
Before I watched this video, I seriously considered going to police academy and becoming a cop. WTF has this nation come to.
Gage Osborne evil
Gage Osborne its evil
Gage Osborne cone to Australia, we don’t shoot people for no reason
Where is humanity or dont they worry about sins taking some’s life as long as you see they are carrying gun in distress?
Gage Osborne dont bro wtf
The TYT trolls are silent on this video.
i'm suprised as well, haven't seen anything so far
I thought it was just me. Guess they only come out to glorify unjust treatment of POC.
AQRify ln
well that explains the brainmatter everywhere, ill get someone to clean this up.
I think the cop deserved to be fired, you can't have a liability like him in the force. What if he does it again? He's not just putting his life in danger but others. I agree with you guys that he did the right thing but we only knew this with hindsight, it was a very stupid and risky move the cop pulled and could have easily gone very very wrong.
You disgust me.
The officer actually sued and got a settlement of $175,000. He now works as a truck driver.
At least he got compensation for this ordeal...
The point isn't that he was compensated, but rather a horrible injustice was done, more like this will continue if something isn't done about it! The system as a whole needs change! Being a civil SERVANT isn't a "VIDEO GAME!" These police officers are paid by the people, to "serve and protect" the people!!!
this is such an infuriating story
I saw that video it was ducked up when they shot and killed him
Mrgo getit what video
Mrgo getit what?
Duck?
yeah that was definitely ducked up
major quack job.
Hats off to this cop.
You know I didn’t believe the title at first. But they literally fired him for not shooting somebody. A little dumbfounded right now
Such a sad story..America has been gone down the crapper.
Never call the police on a family member unless you want them dead.
This very sad what's becoming of this country? Its a scary, scary place.
The two other cops should have been fired.
Officer Mader, thank you so much for trying.
I heard a veteran say it best. You got 18 year old soldiers showing more responsibility and restraint than these killer cops with 20+ years experience
This means that if you have a suicidal friend or relative, you know that calling a cop to help is ensuring their death. What should someone in that situation do?
literally ANYTHING other than calling the police lol.
Actually... I would be put off from telling anyone how i felt... just in case they did the police lol
suicide hotline?
For starters not let them have access to a gun, second if you know it's unloaded take it off him!
the police must assume someone is in danger, anyone threatening their life is mentally unstable
only call the cops if you think another life is in danger
The Marines is the real hero I have mad respect for the Marines 💯💪
The military teaches its soldiers about Hostile Intent and Hostile Threat.
Come on, this is ridiculous‼️ WHY ARE THEY FIRING A COP THAT DOES AN INCREDIBLE JOB⁉️ He SHOULD BE Used for a Training example of a Job Done PERFECTLY!! The Force HAD TO Make Him Look BAD, So that the Other Officers Look Good~ it’s a lot EASIER TO FIRE 1 then to Open an investigation & have a Law Suit for the Other Cops that KILLED Mr. Williams!! I’m TERRIBLY SAD & SICK THAT THE GUY WAS KILLED (suicide) BY COPS & ALSO THAT THE COP WAS FIRED FOR NOT KILLING HIM FIRST‼️‼️ HE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN KILLED AT ALL‼️ This police Dept NEEDS WHOM EVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR FIRING THIS GREAT COP, TO BE FIRED HIS-SELF‼️
This is just so messed up. This cop did the right thing but yet gets fired for it.
The irony is that the Marine Corp taught him to only kill when necessary, yet the police were trying to teach him to kill whenever
I don't even like cops but Stephen Mader did not deserve to be fired. Give that man his job back!!
Cops like him need to be put in charge for the system to change.
Who dislikes this video! Scum.
constructive criti.... jk
The Weirton PD?
Mevolon18 What
JOOGAL1111 GTFO with that weak trolling.
Well I think some people dislike videos because they're angry at the story itself and not the video covering it. Facebook recently adopted a system where you can show how you felt about a post via an emoticon. I don't see the harm in RUclips adopting that ssystem,
I was born and raised in WVa and I'm an Army Veteran as well. I am deeply offended that any police department would fire an employee for trying to de-escalate the situation.
Why some medias didn't share the true story ?
Lionbabe0 they have better things
Msm too busy reporting on Russia