Mothers Unusual Way Of Carrying Baby Orangutan With Her Feet
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Update video of Jingga and her baby Orangutan Jarang
video of our most recent visit to see how RUclips sensation and first-time mum Jingga is getting on rearing baby Jarang at Blackpool Zoo
The baby is alert and putting on weight with mother Jingga still using unusual techniques to to carry her baby around. Jingga doesn't have any experience with babies and has not learned how to care for her own so is adapting to motherhood in her own way, she seem to prefer picking up baby with and carrying him around with her feet and baby Jarang reacts by clutch hold of her leg as she moves around and climbs with him.
Not for the faint hearted but orangutans can grasps hold of objects with their specially adapted feet with skill and ease!
The newborn baby is a critically endangered bornean orangutan born to first time Orangutan mother Jingga
this video was recorded October 2023
RUclips sensation Jingga has had social media fame before when a video featuring her went viral back in 2015 - viral video - monkey sees a magic trick
The video was filmed of her in her previous home Barcelona Zoo in Spain
Jingga move to her new home Blackpool Zoo in 2017 to join her new Blackpool Orangutan family as part of the European Endangered Species Programme (EEP)
14 year old Jingga was born in Barcelona in 2009 to mother Jawi and Father Karl
Now Jingga is settled at Blackpool zoo and has given birth for the first time to the tiny baby boy orangutan which has yet to be named
The father of the newborn baby orangutan is 13 year old Kawan who has recently moved to Blackpool Zoo in 2022 from Apenheul Zoo in the Netherlands and was an instant hit with the resident female orangutans Cherie Summer and Jingga
He came to the zoo as part of the European Endangered Species program after his much loved predecessor Ramon was moved to a new group in Germany where he has just become a new father himself
Kawan was specially selected by experts to join the female group at Blackpool Zoo and has settled into his new role as alpha male orangutan very well
We have recently added Blackpool Zoo to our list of zoos that we will be frequently visiting to film the apes, so watch out for more footage of this fantastic zoo. Blackpool has Gorillas and Bornean Orangutans and we were really impressed with both areas.
There are currently 5 Bornean Orangutans in one family group at Blackpool Zoo consisting of adult females Cherie Summer and Jingga
Alpha Male Kawan and the new male baby orangutan
Enjoy watching First Look at Newborn Baby Orangutan at Blackpool Zoo
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This poor baby is NOT thriving❕
He's so weak, he's barely able to cling on to his mother. He never uses both hands & feet to hold on.
NEVER seen him climb up to her back where I've seen all other orangutan babies ride/be carried in 100's of other videos.
Never seen him suckle for any length of time either. She always pulls him off her chest and then sets him down and does her own thing.
I'm not a vet, zoo keeper or animal specialist but it doesn't take "an expert" to CLEARLY SEE what's going on with this baby.
He's NOT growing.
He's NOT getting stronger.
He's NOT active.
He's NOT able to sit up on his own.
He's NOT trying to sit, stand, climb, etc.
He's NOT alert/curious about anything.
He looks like he's BARELY clinging onto life.
How long before someone steps in to HELP this little guy❔
This is heartbreaking to watch❕
I imagine just "good" video is being shown on this unfortunate situation.
What are we NOT seeing?
How many times is this little guy going to be dropped on his head (like I've seen in other videos)?
And yah yah yah.... I don't need to hear long winded comments about the importance of keeping mother & baby together.
These are CAPTIVE animals, not living naturally in the wild! They will ALWAYS be captive animals and never realeased into the wild so the "importance of mother & baby not being separated" theory can be thrown out the window.
This mother OBVIOUSLY is NOT equipped with the knowledge or instinct to properly take care of a baby.
These are CRITICALLY endangered beings❕
I would THINK the caretakers would do everything possible to make sure this baby THRIVES.
Instead, before our very eyes, we're watching this poor baby struggle & getting weaker in every new video.
Someone NEEDS to HELP THIS BABY❕
Since you’re an expert primatologist I suggest you go get a job in your field (you should be in high demand since you know so much) instead of sitting around making comments to online videos. What do you want them to do? Pull baby out and put him in special ed classes? Maybe call CPS on mom?? Its nature and it’s not going to fit in your neat little box of how things are “supposed” to be.
She drags her baby around like a little girl dragging a toy doll. You almost imagine that if the baby didn’t stick to her by itself somehow, it would be lying discarded on the floor among the s*it infested bedding and momma would have forgotten about it by now and gone off to do something else. She hasn’t got a clue because she’s never seen mothering take place herself, what is the zoo doing to help ? are they just waiting to see if inspiration
strikes the mother, divine intervention, osmosis ??? Maybe it’s a new way to attract views and subs, people might
click on it every day to see if the little one is still around, - nobody would be that cruel, surely not ?
Thanks so much for watching and commenting. 👍
That is a very unhealthy and malnourished looking baby orangutan.
And all's the zoo is asking is for donations. Something is going to happen to that Baby. When it passes away. That Zoo is going to have a lot of problems and Animal Rights will be involved. Everyone Have A Safe and Blessed Day and Prayers for The Baby Orangutan
Лучше бы она его совсем бросила , тогда его наверно пришлось бы спасать . И жизнь у малыша наладилась .Спасибо , за то что снимаете его , очень за малыша переживаю .
Она, конечно, еще очень неопытна, но хорошо, что зоопарку не пришлось вмешиваться, поскольку это может иметь ужасные последствия для орангутанов, их действительно нужно воспитывать вместе с другими представителями своего вида. Большое спасибо за просмотр.
I don't know why the keepers haven't stepped in. It's unbelievable this little baby is still alive. Thank you for the video even though it was extremely difficult to watch. 😢💔
It can be a tough watch as we do humanise them it is so important that the keepers don't step in and hand raise the babies, they really do need to be with their own kind.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting. 👍
I felt the same way because I was use to watching more experience moms with their babies. Just just loving her the only way she knows. I truly believe if he was in any danger or not eating the zoo keepers would intervene. I have to be honest i cringe how she handles him or how she puts him down with his face facing down .
I think mom will find her way , in the most natural way she can . The baby is precious. A wonderful new Orangatan mom ❤❤
I agree. She is definitely not behaving like a typical Orangutan new mother.
the zoo keepers will step in when it’s time they don’t let them Suffer
I think Jingga is sitting on the fence about whether she wants to be a Mom. If she were a human I think she would want Mom and Dad to babysit all the time so she could go out with her friends.
Yes, at 14 she is a very young mother, thanks so much for watching. 🥰
@@wendysomers810 she adores that little guy. Imagine her as a young first time mom having to contend with a disabled infant. He had no grip so she had him on her feet so she could move around. She did pretty well considering and has learned over time what he is capable of. ❤️
This is difficult to watch. I normally think baby should stay with mum, but in this case the staff should really step in :(
This poor baby. I don't believe it will make it. Jingga carries (and cares for) her baby like she would a to----or a sack of flour! She just kinda lays it down and walks off and leaves it. At one point (about 5:45) she didn't have it at all; then at 6:21 you can see it lying on the ground, so I'm assuming someone brought it to her and laid it down so she could find it. The creator of the video says the baby is alert and putting on weight but I can't see it. She looks very frail and weak. I doubt that Jingga feeds it more than once a day. Just makes me angry that the zoo keepers didn't show her how to care for it when it was first born. Surely, something could have been done, but apparently they did nothing!
Other zoos have shown videos of orangutans caring for their babies to new mums, or introduced the mother to an older, experienced female for mentorship. One zoo had one of their staff who was breastfeeding her baby, come in and show a newvorangutan mum how to do it. Surely something can be done to educate this first time mother.
Впервые вижу,чтобы мама орангутан так вела себя с ребенком .Обычно они очень заботливые и нежные со своими малышами.
Большое спасибо за просмотр, мы очень ценим это. Хорошо держаться
Obejrzyj film w zwolnieniu x75. Przekonasz sie że ona wie co robi. Precyzyjnie go przenosi. On jest zadowolony bo siedzi na jej stopie trzyma sie rękoma bo z nogami ma problem. Na jej brzuchu ani na jej plecach nie utrzymałby się.
Something is wrong with the babies left arm. Mom has probably pulled it out of socket the way she carries it.
It's not normal. Look how she bangs its leg off of things.
She just sets the Baby down and leaves it wherever. This is Very Sad The Zoo Keepers and The Zoo are Wrong for Not Taking The Baby From Her. The Zoo said she didn't know how to take care of The Baby Orangutan. Because she didn't have a Mom her self.
If that baby does survive, and I think it probable will, just about, I think it could well have behavioural issues in adulthood. Orangs are not that different from humans.
Thanks so much for watching, it is risky, just as it is in the wild but is important that baby is raised by Orangutans and not Humans. Hopefully it will be a good outcome. Thanks so much for watching. 🥰
This baby is already 3 month and very, very thin.Why does the blackpool zoo not give good care to this orangutangs. The skin from the baby on the arms look like paper. This is a very bad situation. Of course animals are trying to look alert until they die, because in the wildernis it is dangarous to look weak. But here we have a breading program for critical and decimated animales. What kind of zoo is this. In all other zoos th mothers have a place to rest , high up from the ground, and in many zoo they get one planket to hide. Here I see nothing like this, only woodwool on the ground. A zoo like in Charles Dickens books, poverty. I hope that the real situation is better than I can see in the short films.
I find this very sad and disturbing. I would be very interested in what the zoo keepers thoughts and justifications are for allowing this to continue. Thank you Ape Tracker for the video.
I agree this baby needs love! Has it eaten anything yet seems weak?
I cant believe this baby is still alive.......😢
She needs to just abandon him already, so he can get the love and care he deserves!!!
So hard to watch😢
Thanks for watching, it is very important that she doesn't abandon him. It is not good for the species to raise them as Human babies would be brought up. Thanks so much for watching. 👍
@@ApeTracker1 Dorset in the UK, Monkey World, I'm sure you're familiar with this centre where orangutans whose mothers don't care for them from zoos around the world are sent and 100% there this baby would be safer, fed and taught what it's like to be an orangutan. It's hard to watch, but let's hope he survives and maybe other orangutans will take care of him in the shared enclosure. In any case, a zoo that allows such a young female to become a mother does not deserve to be called responsible, because the point is not to produce animals on tape, but for them to reproduce as nature intended, and I am thinking here that in the wild she would still be under the care of her mother and would not be looking for a male yet, but in a zoo there is no other way.
Well, they can give him breaks and give him some physio. She might have a better regard for him, if she didn’t feel like she had to haul him around with her when she wants to climb around. She is not fully a mother to him. One foot in, one foot out.@@ApeTracker1
I agree! I wish Jingga WOULD finally abandon him so he can get the help & nurturing he desperately needs.
There's 100's (if not 1000's) of videos showing surrogate mothers (both human and Primate) for baby orangutans (both captive and wild) and they do JUST FINE when cared for properly.
Anyone concerned for Jarang should contact Alison Cronin, Director of Monkey World in England.
You can also go to Monkey Worlds webpage and report "A Primate in need".
RUclips no longer allows us to post links in the comments so you'll have to look up Monkey Worlds phone #, email & webpage info. Sorry I can't post those links here.
Please, let's help Baby Jarang.
This has gone on long enough.
SERIOUSLY, WHAT KIND OF ZOO LETS A MOTHER BEHAVE THIS WAY WITH A NEW BABY AND DOES NOT INTERVENE???? Ithink it is pure luck that she hasn't dropped him or dislocated his arms!
I just watched something on instagram where she held him UPSIDE DOWN by one foot while she cozied up to the window to meet visitors.
She is basically rejecting the baby. He needs help and tlc.
Thanks for watching, have a great weekend.
I don't think she's rejecting him. He's Gaining weight and growing. I think she's a first time mother that most likely didn't get the benefit of learning from her mother for whatever reason. UT looks worse than it actually is. I think the more experience she gets with the baby the better mommy she'll become.❤❤
An accident and Jarang falling almost seems inevitable. I'm surprised the baby has the strength to hang on to her fur, because it seems to barely have the strength to sit up or move around on its own. I just don't get why the zoo didn't step in long ago. The baby is still WAY underdeveloped for four months old.
They are amazing at not losing their grip, hopefully as baby grows and gets stronger it wont be as serious an issue, the main thing for the zoo is to ensure the babies get raised by their own kind and not hand raised by humans. Thanks so much for watching. 👍
@@ApeTracker1 You could find a surrogate for so long and just bottle-feed and the baby would certainly look much better. You'll admit, for four months, he looks very disturbing. I hope the other females will take care of him on the common run, because I don't think Jinnga has changed now, she's similar in behavior to Spraut. I won't be surprised if she's reunited with the rest of the orangutans, she'll leave the baby behind. A very sad sight, I didn't expect it, I was hoping for her motherhood to improve, but he just doesn't exist. It's not her fault it's the zoo's fault for letting a female so young to be a mother
She has a few finger toes wrapped around the Lil fella
orangutans that young are always attached to their mother but she just leaves the baby on the straw by itself. and the way she picks it up by the arm and drags it about :-(
Yeah, 99% of zoos would've already stepped in by now.
She does lift him a lot, fortunately she still recognises him as her responsibility and is trying to care for him as best she can. He is visibly stronger than when we last visited so that is good news to. Thanks so much for watching. 👍
Yes, because they are arboreal animals, and raised in the wild. These animals are essentially domesticated populations and whilst most still seem to have retained the evolutionarily developed behaviours you’ve mentioned, there is no risk in putting the baby down… maybe, temperature might be an issue but these are not animals that origins from Africa. Their geographical originals include climate where for prolonged periods it is wet and cold so they may be quite robust. I don’t know, but I would imagine that if temperatures in UK dropped sufficiently, zoos have procedures that limit outside time but this is quite a sheltered area.
When my son was little he used to hang on to my leg like that. He would crawl across the floor and then wrap himself around my leg, and not let go. I would have to walk around with this extra weight on my leg. KItchen sink, to refrigerator, to cabinet, into the bedroom back to the kitchen He hung on. He's 50 years old now.
Thanks for watching, really glad you enjoyed the video, enjoy the rest of your week and keep well.
😂 That's a cute story that makes me smile! 😃❤ Thank you so much! I needed it!🙏🏼
my daughter did that, but this is the mother's choice, clearly
And still clinging to your leg?? That’s a Real problem
@@scarlettgallegos5812 LOL
2:07 that looks like an abscess on its back. The keepers better take care of that before this tiny baby gets sick and dies.
I dont think this is going to end well. There are zoos in Japan that have shown videos to new mother orangutans of other orangutans caring for their babies and in some cases it has worked.
I was also thinking that some visual stimulation, on how to hold/carry the baby, might be beneficial.
I saw a video (if I remember correctly here on RUclips) where a the zoo had a human mother demonstrate to the orangutan mother how to feed the baby. If I remember correctly it was extremely helpful.
I do believe the zoo is closely monitoring the situation and will step if necessary.
Does the baby have a sore on his butt?
Awww😢 Jazz would definitely take him under her wing with Jim and Joe..❤ This is probably how Spout would have been..
Yes, it is good that Jingga hasn't abandoned Jarang, and that she still sees him as her responsibility. Hopefully she is learning as she goes. Thanks so much for watching. 🥰
When I looked at it, I thought of Spraut. But there is luckily Jazz and the kids have the best mom, and here, only sadness.
Jarang looks in danger and his mother does not show any affection or love; if he fell from such heights he could get injured, the zoo keepers must do something
It is fortunate that they have such a strong grip, mother does have a very unusual way of carrying him about for sure. Thanks so much for watching. 👍
This was heart-wrenching to watch from a human perspective. I know Jarang will grow up to be healthy and thriving, but this was still so hard to watch. At least he's months older now so she must be doing something right since Blackpool isn't having to intervene. I know this is just a short video of a 24 hour day so perhaps she does hold him and let him cling to her even if we never see it in uploaded videos.
At this rate they may have to step in soon. It's rare for the mothers to leave the babies laying on their own, on the ground, like this. Perhaps this zoo just isn't doing a good job? Wouldn't be the first time a zoo dropped the ball.
It can be a bit difficult to watch as Jingga certainly has unusual methods but it is so detrimental to Orangutans not to be raised with others and once they are hand raised they find it hard to interact with others, This happened with Benji at Dudley Zoo. On the plus side he does look a little stronger and it is good that Jingga still knows that Jarang is her responsibility. Thanks as always for watching and supporting the channel Meg. 🥰
Hopefully they wont have to step in and hand raise baby. Thanks so much for watching. 🥰
As long as the baby is gaining weight at a normal rate, Jingga understands her responsibility to feed him and appears to be doing that. The baby is also gaining arm strength whether holding on to it's mother's stomach or holding onto it's mother's leg, that is what the zoo is likely looking out, how the baby is developing. As long as the baby is developing normally, they probably won't step in, as there is no reason to do that. The zoo is likely keeping track of the baby's development and as long as that development is going as normal, they will probably leave them together.
I thought I saw where ApeTracker had said that she was observed holding the baby up by it's hands, to strengthen the arms. That shows she has the instincts for what her baby needs. I do agree leaving the baby alone for long periods of time is heartbreaking, especially at this age, but then, we don't really know she may be cuddling with that baby all night when they sleep.
I have a rare nerve related condition and the part of my body that has that condition I cannot stand for anyone to touch me in that area, it is highly sensitive. I notice that Jingga doesn't like to be touched by the baby on her belly. And that Orangs are so much like humans in their physiology. Maybe Jingga really does not like to be touched on her stomach. She puts the baby kind of to the side when feeding, like she doesn't want the baby directly on that stomach. She does seem to protect her stomach from the baby's touch. Again, I've only seen a few videos of Jingga with her baby so that might not actually be the case, and only on those short clips did I see that kind of behavior.
@@bees5461, yes, thanks for the info. Just because I watched this video and said it was "heart-wrenching" to watch, doesn't mean I'm judging Jingga's parenting or that I don't know about Primates in general. I'm pretty sure Jingga wouldn't care what any of us humans think anyway. Primate babies are much more stronger and resilient than human babies. Just because I used "heart-wrenching" doesn't mean I have forgotten this fact. I trust Blackpool Zoo Primate caretakers. They know what they are doing and they are the experts. Unless they release an official statement concerning Jingga and Jarang, then us viewers of RUclips videos are just speculating. None of us have the facts. Ape-Tracker has been amazing at sharing information/videos as well.
(I have seen other videos from zoos of even experienced Orangutan mothers having their newborns on the ground vice latched onto them 24/7, walking away from them, etc. It's rare, but it does happen. Jingga did not reject her newborn, which means she's well aware of her responsibility to Jarang. Just has humans have different parenting styles, so do primates...doesn't mean it's still not cringe-worthy to watch for us human viewers).
This is very hard and sad to watch as this should be stopped she doesn’t cry the baby properly and she stops the baby feeding .
She does feed baby but very often does it in a private area that the zoo have put up, it is tough to watch sometimes as she doesn't handle her baby in the conventional manor. Hopefully all will be well for these two.
Почему сотрудники зоо не показала.как прикладывать ребенка к груди и ностть его!?😮
Большое спасибо за просмотр, мы очень ценим это. Хорошо держаться
Хоть не отказалась от ребенка! Но очень тревожно за малыша!😮
Большое спасибо за просмотр, мы очень ценим это. Хорошо держаться
Her methods seem very uncaring, but I want to point out that she is very conscious, when the infant is in her hand or foot, of not hurting him. I can only assume that the infant cries when he is hungry, and that she feeds him at those times. A surrogate mom would be near impossible because she wouldn’t be able to nurse him. Eventually he will become mobile, and he may be able to initiate more body contact with his mom at that time. Only time will tell.
if she dont change in maximum one more day the baby need to be taken from her period,god knows if she feed the baby at all,to me looks that she is trying to abandon that poor kiddo
It is good that she hasn't abandoned him, very important that baby Orangutans are not hand raised by humans. Thanks so much for watching. 👍
@@ApeTracker1 thats what im hoping for,i dont wanna see one cousin left by own mother,we are still cousins we can raise them,but mother nature want their own mother to raise them and teach them all they need to know to survive and live their life designed by the nature itself,i love to see all the Great Apes to live long and happy life,but trust me the Orangutans are my favorite,calm,respective and friendly towards the others,even to those not related,not like the chimps,agressive and pick and choose on daily basis with who to hang out ✌️
That baby is fine and way more durable then people think. They never worked with these but think they know everything. That moms very cautious she loves her child more then anything and it is happy as we all see.
She's being as gentle as she can be baby has to learn to hang on.
This little guy is so very, very skinny. Is he laying on bedding that is thick with poo - if so, that’s a disgrace.
Thanks again for watching.
Детёныш еле живой.Ветеринара надо.
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He has a lump on his bum. The keepers need to step in now. Mom obviously doesn’t care for him.
Is this a new mother who doesn't know hoe to carry her baby?
Yes, she is a first time mother. 🥰
This isn't new video. The baby is a little older now. not sure if its still alive. Mom wasn't nursing the baby was not responsive to her baby needs.
Video was recorded 3 days ago, thanks for watching. 👍
jeez. she's a bit rough with him. no?
Yes, she does handle him roughly, very much different from the Chester mother. Thanks so much for watching. 🥰
mama 😲ale mam nadzieję, że się naprawi, śliczne maleństwo 😍😘 miej cierpliwość dla swojej mamy 👍
Dziękujemy bardzo za obejrzenie, naprawdę to doceniamy.
It’s interesting that Jingga carries wee Jarang on her foot. I’ve seen gorilla mums do this, but not orangs. It seems that she’d like to carry him in her arms (e.g. 4:43), but can’t figure out how to do that and climb around at the same time! Little man looks alert and certainly has a strong grip - I guess he’ll just learn to be independent at an earlier age than most orangutan babies. Hanging by one arm won’t hurt him - that’s what orangutans are designed to do. ❤
She certainly handles the baby very differently to the new mother at Chester.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting. 🥰
I loved your comment and agree with you. Mom and baby will find their way naturally. ❤❤
Maybe she's seen gorilla moms do the foot carry. I think its very clever of her. The baby has the foot as a seat and is able to get an excellent grip around her ankle
14 is still pretty young for an orangutan to have a baby. It shows that she’s not only inexperienced but also not mature enough to understand how important it is for the infant to be on it close to her chest at all time. It also doesn’t seem like she’s seen anyone else care for an infant. Primates learn my mimicking, she seems to have been left completely in the dark. I hope she figures it out soon, that poor little infant really needs to bond with his mother.
Thanks for watching and for the great comment. 👍
Actually, younger moms have been great mums. I think Jingga is immature, maybe her own upbringing. As weird as it is, if you watch a few videos of her, she LOVES a camera…
When I worked in the plantations in Sumatra I would,now and then,come across orang cubs on their own.I couldnt figure out why they were left like that.Orangs are not very good mothers.The wee little one would try and grab me if I got close.Early on I rescued a few and kept them as pets but the manager told me best not to touch them.I saw a few dead ones too,they were killed by dogs and eaten.We just saw them as pests.
Thanks for watching and giving a different perspective on how things are in the wild. 👍
I found a short video last night that looks like it's from a month or two ago, it titled mother orangutans kiss their babies or something like that. What I saw was Jinga trying to see if she could fit his head in her mouth! She couldn't luckily! I think it was on Facebook.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting. 👍
I know zookeepers take infants away from their moms for a lot less. Why aren’t they stepping in?
She seems like she don't want anything to do with the baby
Thanks for watching, really glad you enjoyed the video, enjoy the rest of your week and keep well.
I think I understand why she's casting it like this. I believe she needs her two hands primarily free to comb, and she's afraid baby can't hold on and do long as she had a grip on it, no matter how precarious that grip looks to us, she knows it can't fall because she has a hold on it. It does look very uncomfortable for little one, and as it grows she'll be forced to change how she holds baby...
I never seen a video that made me cry.
Thanks so much for watching.
So... the situation has not changed at all. This was heart-wrenching to watch. I don't think Jingga miraculously learns what to do by herself , even if they waited and waited. I have seen a video in which the carers of a rehabilitation center chose an unconventional method when an orangutan mum didn't know how to breastfeed. They had a worker who had a new baby. She agreed to show the orangutan what she does with her human baby in terms of breastfeeding - after all, orangutans are not that different. The orangutan mum watched attentively - and learned! Maybe try something similar, videos of other orangutan mums taking care of their babies. 🤔
Her methods are unusual yes an no it’s hard to see her handling of him. I think she’s doing her best. He has to be able to move around, once that happens things will be different but I do believe she loves her baby an he’s better off being raised unconventional than to be hand raised.
I think so to Anne-marie, once babies are taken from their mothers, the bond is broken and they have to be hand raised by humans. They need to be with their own kind as risky as this may sometimes be. This is how they learn the skills they need. It also helps Jingga become a better mother for the future. I guess it's a big picture kind of thing. Thanks so much for watching. 🥰
How is he going to learn to move around. He is very weak. Can’t lift his own head
I'm hoping that my lack of knowledge about orangutan development is the reason I'm concerned, and that the professionals know what they're doing. It just doesn't seem that Jingga is carrying Jarang in a way that allows him access to food when he needs it, and he looks so small! He doesn't seem distressed though, and I'm quite sure that Jingga is very aware of his well-being when she's handling him, despite what it looks like to us humans. I also think it's important to remember that orangs didn't evolve to live on the ground, so that may have something to do with how Jingga carries him.
I agree. It's weird but to me they have four sets of hands and no feet. She does look as though she has a very tight grip around his leg with her toes!
The baby is looking like "WTH"!😂
I think baby is slowly getting used to her unorthodox methods, he is certainly resilient. Thanks so much for watching. 👍
She, uh... really sucks at this. The look on the kid's face suggests that even he could give her some pointers. Also, the way he rubbed his face lovingly on her calf made me want to cry.
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Is she still separated from the group. I'd be very curious to see if she leaves him on the ground around other orangutans.
She is still separated from the rest, I think for the reason you stated that she might leave him. It is a strange way of rearing baby but I still think she believes she is doing the best she can. We have a lot more footage to work through and are going to try and bring regular updates. Thanks so much for watching. 👍
I saw her on a longer zoo video outside with him on a ledge. She had him in a ball of hay and just pushed him and the hay along the ledge as though she was a broom. I will try to find the video. It was very quick and also a bit heartbreaking. Apart from that I havnt seen them outside either which is for the best.
I made a mistake about the ledge. It was inside where she is now.
The mother doesn't seem to have had motherhood training during her childhood. , The baby can 't hear her heart beat on her leg. Could her breasts be hurting her? Is he nursing? Jarang doesn't appear malnourished though. I do fear there could be a terrible accident, as nimble as she is.
Does Jinga still carry him around by her foot 🦶 where at least he can get a tiny bit of exercise in his arms clinging to Mommy's leg hair????????
Last time I saw them she did, I thought it was unique but I have seen Sarikei carrying her baby in the same way. ❤️
It's not clear that this is wrong. She is doing something humans don't/can't do. If she were using her arms to move through the forest she might well carry her baby that way.
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This is the first time I'm seeing orangutan mom not caring for her newborn baby well
She doesn't do things in the conventional way but is slowly getting there. 🥰
I think to her , it's just a moving object . Something 'odd' .
I wonder if this is Jingga's way of telling you guys that the new baby needs a helmet! (1:00)
She had a very tight grip on that baby as she was climbing around. Just give her a little more time she’ll get the hang of motherhood and hopefully become’s a great mum. ❤❤❤
Yep, this is the way that she will also learn motherhood for the future, they are amazingly resilient creatures however I guess things are so much tougher in the wild. Thanks as always for watching ZombieQueen. 🥰
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I’ve never seen anything as precious as this.
Very unusual for an Orang mom to let her baby leave her body let alone her side for years🤔
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Yes, it is hard to watch! 😢
As 8/ 2024 Does anyone know what happened to this baby
He is awaiting an operation 👍
Thankyou so much for this video. I have been begging you for more abd you delivered more even though I doubt any of us wanted to see them like this. It was really hard to watch. He will be moving around on his own as soon as his little legs start working in the meantime I hope he just concentrates on holding on because his life depends on it.
So sad but so beautiful. I have so many emotions watching this. Thankyou so much. X
I've tried to find the video but can't find it. However I now realise the ledge I thought was outside is probably the one in the room where she always is so I think I was mistaken. Still hard to watch him bundled in a pile of hay and being pushed full speed from one end to the other. This little guy is going to have stories for the grandkids!! I just want to give him a hug!
Did you see him lying alone on the hay with his hands and feet clasped tightly together, as if he was holding onto the fur? It's Jingga who isn't carrying him like she should, she's acting like she doesn't want close contact with him.
I think the zoo has had to make a difficult choice from some not great options. My 'expertise' comes from watching hundreds of Orangutan mother/baby videos and reading the videographers information such as 'Apetracker' and Sloggar vloggar' and two wonderful series of Jungle school on NowTV so I could be completely off track here. I think Jinga looks quite bored but they can't let the other females in especially if they have not had babies themselves. If that is the case neither could be considered to help Jinga or Foster Jarang and because she leaves him on the ground one of them could harm him. On top of that I think Jinga has not been close to any other mums with young babies. They apparently learn by watching and copying and if I'm right she hasn't seen or was too young to understand how a mum and baby interact. Maybe if she was older she could have worked out that he needs to feel safe but clearly she hasn't. All she knows is she needs to feed him and take him with her and sometimes they put baby on her back but misunderstands why or how and kindof chucks him on her back but he doesnt grip because she put him on her back facing the wrong way. She knows they encourage climbing by putting them on a branch and make their little hands grip the branch/rope but she just dangles him from her hands which are gripping the rope so he isn't learning to grip in that way. The only other option would be hand rearing him. If they did that she would never learn and the risks around reintroducing him later are greater than letting her work it out. He is eating and as far as we know he hasn't been injured so even if it's a tough upbringing it's still better than taking him away. . I think that as long as he is safe (ish) and eating he is better off with her.
@@milliemills7263 I agree with you 100%, but the zoo should do everything in this situation to show her what to do, because if they connect her with others, I think she will leave him completely and take care of her own affairs. I've been hoping since the first movie that something will change for the better, but... I feel sorry for this child, an orangutan doesn't spend its first months of life like this, you know it from watching movies. See on the channel I gave you in the second comment (maybe you watched) how unwanted children are helped
This poor baby is NOT thriving❕
He's so weak, he's barely able to cling on to his mother. He never uses both hands & feet to hold on.
NEVER seen him climb up to her back where I've seen all other orangutan babies ride/be carried in 100's of other videos.
Never seen him suckle for any length of time either. She always pulls him off her chest and then sets him down and does her own thing.
I'm not a vet, zoo keeper or animal specialist but it doesn't take "an expert" to CLEARLY SEE what's going on with this baby.
He's NOT growing.
He's NOT getting stronger.
He's NOT active.
He's NOT able to sit up on his own.
He's NOT trying to sit, stand, climb, etc.
He's NOT alert/curious about anything.
He looks like he's BARELY clinging onto life.
How long before someone steps in to HELP this little guy❔
This is heartbreaking to watch❕
I imagine just "good" video is being shown on this unfortunate situation.
What are we NOT seeing?
How many times is this little guy going to be dropped on his head (like I've seen in other videos)?
And yah yah yah.... I don't need to hear long winded comments about the importance of keeping mother & baby together.
These are CAPTIVE animals, not living naturally in the wild! They will ALWAYS be captive animals and never realeased into the wild so the "importance of mother & baby not being separated" theory can be thrown out the window.
This mother OBVIOUSLY is NOT equipped with the knowledge or instinct to properly take care of a baby.
These are CRITICALLY endangered beings❕
I would THINK the caretakers would do everything possible to make sure this baby THRIVES.
Instead, before our very eyes, we're watching this poor baby struggle & getting weaker in every new video.
Someone NEEDS to HELP THIS BABY❕
I am so sad after watching her neglect this precious lil baby, she just leaves face down on the ground😢
Kenapa seperti ini? Msh sekecil ini biasanya berada dalam dekapan induknya. Induknya memperlakukan baby dengan kasar. Smg rajin menyusuinya.
There is something wrong with the baby's diaphram and they said she carries him that way so as not to squeeze him and even thou its weird she's picked up on the babies problem and it's how she protects him and doesn't squeeze his body in any way. And it works.... he's so small cause he's like 2 weeks old in the video. So yaw do your research he is not neglected and the keepers are aware of his problem and are just waiting for him to age and gain weight b4 the corrective operation can be preformed. There is not a zoo in the modern world that could neglect or mistreat a orangutan and get away with it. Being they are so drastically endangered.
Como no puede aferrarse a Jingga tampoco come como deberia. Por eso no se desarrolla y esta tan flaquito ese bebé En los videos mas nuevos tiene las bolitas mas hinchadas debe de ser del golpeteo cuando lo lleva en la pata. Los veterinarios deberian ver ambas cosas porque son obvias. No pueden mantener en exhibición a un animalito enfermo.
Esta mamá es la Tayari orangutan. Y con la mamá gorila el zoo tampoco hizo nada aunque su bebé Jabali sobrevivio. Aunque a diferencia de Tayari que maltrataba a su bebé la orangutan lo trata bien aunque es bastante rustica para llevarlo.
Everyone crying wolf and everyones a orangutan expert 😅this is normal get over it in the wild way worse happens. That baby is ten times stronger then you think.
I dont know of many Zoo's in this day in age that aren't making their animals in their care top priority. So I assume even though the mother has a unique way of packing around her kid, she still feeds it regularly and the other free motherly necessities. I agree a typical chest style upbringing is prob better. But these aren't breakable glass babies humans. They are tough, strong and resilient. So I hope all the people with excessive worries and mother condemning comments it will bring a lil solice and some education. I'm sure the baby will be pulled if its not a healthy match. Obviously there's a lot of people watching and waiting to send them to hell with their finger on the button.
and this continues month after month and the keepers are so happy, they don't want to mother this baby either.. this baby is months behind , malnourished and even the baby knows this isn't right. she only feeds in a few minutes intervals, baby is sick..
I was a wee bit worried at first, highever, I know I saw tbe baby smiling as it was playing the role of zan orangutan shoe
i agree this mom isn’t giving the baby the attention it needs but do know if that baby was hungry he would be fussing.
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If this stoic boy survives to his first birthday ,he is going to have a long life! Good luck jarang and jingga .a lot of humans love you and are hoping you will thrive. Thanks to the patient zoo staff who all must high stress from allowing nature and love to work things out
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Although the baby looks like it is being stepped on, Jingga has a good grip on him with her foot.
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poor little man. his mum holds him like he is icky dont touch him. i suggest that when you have a first time mum, play a video of another orangutan holding her baby the proper way and nursing her baby. another zoo did that for a first time mum who never had the chance to learn from her mum. it worked!!! she became an awesome mum.she watched it before baby was born.
Hola los orangutanes me encantan.no puedo leer los comentarios en ingles.no se.lo podeis traducir al Español.
I think the zoo should show the video of how other orangutan moms are carrying their babies.
Instinto maternal tiene pocel pobrecitoo debe tener miedo y Verti g o además lo le da de comer
if this was real world this baby would be an app...Already over..
This is rejecting her baby, you want money for what your pockets 😡😢
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The person filming this had no control over what the zoo does why are you fussing at them?? Get a hold of yourself.
Because they are out of their Clements, that's why
they are surrounded with people, which very unusual for them. Most likely, they are closing the sense of how really to take care of the baby as they attened to
the fear in its face is priceless, when it swirls around the whole time 4:35 😂
Is she and the baby all by themselves, maybe if dad was around it might help
inexperienced mother learning a new way?really!
Baby should have been named zapada.
I hope baby Jarang is doing okay😭❤️
Deseo que este bebe se crie muy bien.
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Omg can't yall at the very least show her some videos of how to carry her baby the right way?. The poor thing looks absolutely petrified and i dont blame him. This is not entertaining to watch, it's nwrvewracking and i feel so sorry for the baby and more than a little upset at the ppl who are supposed to take care of these animals allowing the new mother in her ignorance to drag that baby around by an arm or a leg or just however she happens to pick him up. Who told the keepers this is the way to care for animals or teach them is sadly lacking in humanity. Also, what if she permanently injures babys bones or joints? If it does happen, " im sorry " just isn't going to help that little one with healing or worth the arthritis when he's older. So please do something to help both of them!!
I agree!
Anyone concerned for Jarang should contact Alison Cronin, Director of Monkey World in England.
You can also go to Monkey Worlds webpage and report "A Primate in need".
RUclips no longer allows us to post links in the comments so you'll have to look up Monkey Worlds phone #, email & webpage info. Sorry I can't post those links here.
Please, let's help Baby Jarang.
This has gone on long enough.
Yeah this is definitely pretty dangerous for the baby even though all primates are born hard wired to instinctively grasp their mothers with both hands n feet which in itself are very strong for any baby let alone a newborn ! And you can obviously tell she’s an inexperienced mother so she carries her baby this way bc she’s either inexperienced from not having another female with young for her to watch n learn from, or she feels comfortable carrying her this way while she uses both hands to climb n eat. Even though they’re solitary in the wild n they keep the babies until they’re about 7 yrs old to teach them all they need to know, but many times when the baby is about 4-5 yrs old and an efficient climber n forager the mother will mate again n have another baby so her daughter will have a few years to watch n learn how to care for newborns n infants so they kno what to do when they branch off n have their own offspring. I am a bit surprised tho that the zoo hasn’t done more like some zoos with will show females videos of females giving birth n all the other things like how to clean them at birth, clear their airways to allow them to breathe clearly and how to carry them correctly bc her n the other two females there don’t have an older female there to learn from. So during their daily training they’ll show them these videos or by the keepers holding a life like baby orangutan doll !
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He is strong because if he wasn’t he wouldn’t have latched on her foot and stayed. She does move carefully with him and at one closeup looks like he smiles. She loves him, I think if you took him away she’d go into depression and she has a good grip on him with her foot, you can see that. Just give her time. She’s learning. She’s doing better than some most first time moms.
I'm amazed that the infant seems so calm.
@BreNews123 that statement is incredibly unfair. It's awfully easy to be an armchair critic when you have no clue what the zoo staff are actually doing to monitor the mother and baby's progress. Primate infants need their natural mothers and interactions with others in the family to develope and grow into healthy adults. Humans are no substitute for an Orangutan mother.
Лапы ребёнку все выкрутила . Ждем чего ?
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Shes just not ready😢
She is very inexperienced but has gotten better over the last few months. 🥰
I can see why many commentators were concerned. I have to admit that I am also concerned. Has she ever carried him on her chest, close to her teats? I assume that baby is feeding normally because if not, the keepers would have intervened. He is adorable though 🥰🥰🥰
Ape Tracker posted a video recently that showed Jingga feeding Jarang - apparently he’s feeding well❣️
@@vjc2270yes we saw that video that she breastfed him BUT we also saw she pulled him off when she decided it was enough and moved on. The baby is obviously underdeveloped and deprived of motherly affection and learning development at an early stage. As for Jingga, she’s too young to be a mom at age 13 which she is probably a teenager at this stage.
@@LavendarRoses I agree with every word you say. He is lying like a newborn, and he is probably 3-4 months old and you can see that his hands and feet are still clenched so he can hold on, it is the mother who doesn't want to, or can't, and I don't make the assumption that such a mother is better than artificial upbringing, only that the baby should have been given to a surrogate who would have at least carried and cuddled him, and could be fed artificially because he is still small and skinny. This film is just hard to watch, that's my opinion.
I think the baby will get a limb crushed, if not, it's entire body. Scary looking way to carry a baby. That's the first time I've seen a mother orangutan carry their baby like that.
She carries him on her chest twice in just this video alone. ???
Que arte como lo ha llevado sigilosamente en su pierna su cría pero a la vez he pensado se podía haber caído pero no fue asi😮
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Beautiful baby ❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏
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