I really don't see how ANYONE can knock SI for anything really, this video only tells me how much of a perfectionist he is, and how much love he has for this wonderful sport. Calculations like these really make a difference in shooting extremely well. Some out there still don't believe this gentleman is actually making those long range kill shots. This video only further proves that with his many years of experience, using quality airguns, and his love for the sport all those incredible shots are a reality! Si, I respect what you do, and how you do it, much class is shown in all the little details for sure mate. sincerely Jessie
Long time shooter but new to air gunning. So much very useful information and given so understandably. I'm trying to pick up all the knowledge I can and this so applicable. Thank you both for your efforts and love of the sport. SJV Cali
Very good Si I still look back at the video you made about chair gun 4 years back its so interesting. This new video tell you that little bit more about what chair gun can do and the ways it can help you I use it all the time.
Now this post is from me and nobody else so I want to thank both Si and Davy for bringing things to my attention to make me a better shooter. Some sad fucks want to knock them for what they do, what I will say to the sado's is if you don't like them then don't click on their video's its your choice. They take time out of their life's and shooting time to record video's and then edit for us to watch so I say thank you lads.
Thank you for that Si, have used Chairgun software but that really helped me understand it a little more, your near and far set up technique makes perfect sense to me and will help alot of others who want to get the most out of their sport. I don't know if your much into forums but please pay Air gun gurus a visit, we are a small forum and try and promote the sport in a safe , responsible, friendly, uncontroversial and fun way, ATB to you and Davie , Jez.
Well. . . . . A massive thank you from a real novice. . . . You explained this perfectly and I have solid understanding of how this works. I have an HW95 (one month old) It's a bit of a pig to get a good group. . . I'll persevere as I like the rifle a lot. I have an AA S410S (one week old) Holy cow. . . after zeroing the scope I was hitting a 5p piece bull at 10m every time at 20m 75% accurate . . . 30m 50% and 50m maybe 30% . . .I then realised that my reticle was not 100% vertical and was throwing the shots out (on both rifles) . . . More of you vids and I got that sussed. . . more practice next week and I should be a lot better. Thanks again and keep the vids coming. . . both entertaining and packed with info to improve your shooting
Si a well edited video explaining very clearly near and far zeroing . Also explaining the Chair Gun software. Will be using the advice learned today to better zero my Hw100T .22. Many thanks.Keep the good work up Si and Dave .
Suggestion: When weighing pellets, weigh ten, then divide by ten. That gives you an additional significant digit, and gives the average, without having to do any calculation. And it's a lot quicker, too.
Thanks very much!! This is by far the best explenation. Thanks for this great video en thanks for all the time and effort you put into it. Kind regards JD
MTC need a program like this cos Chairgun doesn't work for this scope shame really cos i've done all my friends Hawkes and they think it's the best thing ever ... very good video very in-depth and informative
Nice info and a good video. I bought a Hawke Airmax 1" scope, 4-12x50 and did not realise until I got it that it has damn 1/4 MOA turrets but uses a MIL dot reticle. The Paralax adjustment is in YARDS, throw all of this combination together and you may as well guess! Just a complete mismatch of everything. Why did they not just stick to one standard, either MIL or MOA, but to mix them up seems crazy. (Lovely scope though as far a holding zero and the glass, best I have ever had)
Si, just take thirty and stick them on your scale and take the average. Statistically that will be very, very accurate. Something useful to know, a meter is almost exactly 10% longer than a yard. That lets you instantly conclude that 44 meters is 44+4.4= 48 and a half meters. My brother, the kill area is + or - the number you put in there. That means that at + or - 2 cm you are establishing a kill zone of 4 cm, vice 2 cm.
Another great and informative video Si. With the advent of the FX Mk2 chronograph, what’s the best way to obtain the velocity at target data ? Would you need to keep an old Cauldwell for the far figures ? Respect and regards. Skippy1101.
Well i have watched this vid loads of time and just couldn't get it, until tonight it just sank in now for some target shooting see if it works for me cheers Si :)
si, what laser range finder do you reccomend? also, when in an open area like a field with no objects to bounce the laser from... how do you go about getting the distance?
Hello si great video, just wanted to know I've got my near velocity for my rifle, do I need a chronograph to find out my far data or will the chair gun pro calculate my far velocity
Charlie Whitelegg You need a chrono to get your far velocity. Another way of doing it that isnt quite as accurate is right click on the BC tab in Chairgun and click on the drop in cm tab. This only works well though if you have a perfect zero at your primary range and then shoot and measure your drop at a further distance.
Hi Si, any reason you chose 44 meters for your "far data collection" i'm waiting for a chrono to arrive and i will using it with the Hawke system, i have a .177 rifle and was wondering if that (44) would be ok ?
Si, use an app called strelokpro costs a couple of quid but much better than the Hawke software , use it you'll be amazed. Use it in the field no need to print out paper data Let me know if you give it a go Ben
VerminHuntersTV I think we're both wrong Si. The denominator figure works out as 7000 (grains in a pound) x g x 2. If you take standard figures for g at 32.174049, you arrive at 450436.7 to one dec place.... but since the value of g depends where on the earth you measure it and has been in debate every since the French proposed their view (who would want to agreee with them), I think we are all allowed some artistic license. I think the 450240 figure was taken as being easy to remember. At the end of the day, it makes such a small difference to the equation to be a moot point.
VerminHuntersTV Hi there Si great video and good info as usual, I would just like to add that the police do not take an average FPS they take the Max ( as far as I know, so in your case you are well under 12 FPE so it matters not one jot, however Joe Soap could be running a bit nearer 12 FPE so average would make him safe but Max would have him/her in bother ) ATBM8 and thanks to you Dave for taking the trouble to upload all these vids.
I really don't see how ANYONE can knock SI for anything really, this video only tells me how much of a perfectionist he is, and how much love he has for this wonderful sport. Calculations like these really make a difference in shooting extremely well. Some out there still don't believe this gentleman is actually making those long range kill shots. This video only further proves that with his many years of experience, using quality airguns, and his love for the sport all those incredible shots are a reality! Si, I respect what you do, and how you do it, much class is shown in all the little details for sure mate. sincerely Jessie
leftymadrid - I completely agree. This man is dedicated and meticulous- and knows his stuff!
Long time shooter but new to air gunning. So much very useful information and given so understandably. I'm trying to pick up all the knowledge I can and this so applicable. Thank you both for your efforts and love of the sport. SJV Cali
Thanks guys, a lot of preparation and time gone into this video.
Much appreciated.
Very good Si I still look back at the video you made about chair gun 4 years back its so interesting. This new video tell you that little bit more about what chair gun can do and the ways it can help you I use it all the time.
What an absolutely cracking tutorial many thanks for all your hard work and look forward to your next vid thanks guys really good stuff
GazH
Now this post is from me and nobody else so I want to thank both Si and Davy for bringing things to my attention to make me a better shooter. Some sad fucks want to knock them for what they do, what I will say to the sado's is if you don't like them then don't click on their video's its your choice. They take time out of their life's and shooting time to record video's and then edit for us to watch so I say thank you lads.
Roger Crook Thank you! Roger
Davy
Absolutely marvellous stuff Si. As a beginner its really appreciated to this good information.
Thanks for going into the detail of how this works. Great job, keep up the outstanding hard work.
Thanks Si and Davy quality and informative video as always.
Thank you for that Si, have used Chairgun software but that really helped me understand it a little more, your near and far set up technique makes perfect sense to me and will help alot of others who want to get the most out of their sport. I don't know if your much into forums but please pay Air gun gurus a visit, we are a small forum and try and promote the sport in a safe , responsible, friendly, uncontroversial and fun way, ATB to you and Davie , Jez.
Well. . . . . A massive thank you from a real novice. . . . You explained this perfectly and I have solid understanding of how this works.
I have an HW95 (one month old) It's a bit of a pig to get a good group. . . I'll persevere as I like the rifle a lot.
I have an AA S410S (one week old) Holy cow. . . after zeroing the scope I was hitting a 5p piece bull at 10m every time at 20m 75% accurate . . . 30m 50% and 50m maybe 30% . . .I then realised that my reticle was not 100% vertical and was throwing the shots out (on both rifles) . . . More of you vids and I got that sussed. . . more practice next week and I should be a lot better.
Thanks again and keep the vids coming. . . both entertaining and packed with info to improve your shooting
Brilliant! Just what I was after.
Thanks a bunch for the hard work gents! Keep'em coming.
Si a well edited video explaining very clearly near and far zeroing . Also explaining the Chair Gun software. Will be using the advice learned today to better zero my Hw100T .22. Many thanks.Keep the good work up Si and Dave .
A very good lecture. A lot of question answered.
Brilliant video. Thanks for taking the time to put all this together.
I already know the program, but now i understand it kuch more.
Thanks Si, best wishes from Holland. 👍
Si i used this method of calibration and shot a squirrel standing supported head shot in a tree . Very pleased with it.
Another great video si.very helpful mate.keep the video coming.
Suggestion: When weighing pellets, weigh ten, then divide by ten. That gives you an additional significant digit, and gives the average, without having to do any calculation. And it's a lot quicker, too.
Thank you from a new air gun user even I could understand how to do it . First class video
Great video, data is explained very well, i'll definitely be picking up a Hawke scope and trying this software. Thanks Si.
Excellent tutorial Si, thanks very much! 👍🏼
i also agree with roger crook, and i thank you guys for all your time and efforts in helping others .
best regards
steve from plymouth.
Very very very good work. Many thumps up to your works.. 👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks very much!! This is by far the best explenation. Thanks for this great video en thanks for all the time and effort you put into it. Kind regards JD
thank you So for taking your time out to do this very informative video
Excellent explanation si using this graph as a template i have learnt a lot about my shooting.
Good information, nice, thanks for posting it.
Absolutely brilliant !!!
very informative Si .thank you for taking the time to put this vid together. p.s loved the reply to 616 haggard .still laughing now..
Ok si thanks for the info mate all the best and keep the great videos coming 😉
great video. its going to help me a lot. thank you very much
outstanding video as usual mate, thanks for sharing between us
a brotherly hug from Italy
ciao
Fabio
Fabio4408
That was good, thanks Si.
MTC need a program like this cos Chairgun doesn't work for this scope shame really cos i've done all my friends Hawkes and they think it's the best thing ever ... very good video very in-depth and informative
Brilliant job Si
Amazing video! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nice info and a good video. I bought a Hawke Airmax 1" scope, 4-12x50 and did not realise until I got it that it has damn 1/4 MOA turrets but uses a MIL dot reticle. The Paralax adjustment is in YARDS, throw all of this combination together and you may as well guess! Just a complete mismatch of everything. Why did they not just stick to one standard, either MIL or MOA, but to mix them up seems crazy. (Lovely scope though as far a holding zero and the glass, best I have ever had)
Good video, very informative.Thanks for the time & effort. Some of those pellets you were weighing out looked a bit moody though!!!!!
That was quality, need to get myself a chrony ;) nice one Si
Lot of helpful informations ! thanks Si !!! you ´l do more vid´s ?? Hope so! thumb up .
Thank you very much for that
Brilliant Si thanks :)
I totally agree with Roger Crook !!!!!
Nice one buddy 👍
Si, just take thirty and stick them on your scale and take the average. Statistically that will be very, very accurate. Something useful to know, a meter is almost exactly 10% longer than a yard. That lets you instantly conclude that 44 meters is 44+4.4= 48 and a half meters. My brother, the kill area is + or - the number you put in there. That means that at + or - 2 cm you are establishing a kill zone of 4 cm, vice 2 cm.
You can calculate the ballistic coefficient using the pellet drop over distance option if you only have a crombo.
Thank you.
Another great and informative video Si. With the advent of the FX Mk2 chronograph, what’s the best way to obtain the velocity at target data ? Would you need to keep an old Cauldwell for the far figures ? Respect and regards. Skippy1101.
Thanks for the vid. Could you please tell me the name of your scope?
Hi Si would a rifle shop do the near and far calibration for you as I got no idea how to work a computer lol Thanks mate 👍👍
Well i have watched this vid loads of time and just couldn't get it, until tonight it just sank in now for some target shooting see if it works for me cheers Si :)
Si, Will your range card be accurate from day to day? Or will you need to zero every so often with weather temp changes and such?
si, what laser range finder do you reccomend? also, when in an open area like a field with no objects to bounce the laser from... how do you go about getting the distance?
brillient...hope u do it with an FAC .22 air gun one day.thanks
Thanks for the video, apart from the useful gun related info, it must have took ages to compile and edit ,, Shane uk 🇬🇧
Hi Si, when you say only works for hawke reticles...what about the generic mildot??...or is it too vague across the different manufactures
Gents, a quick, possibly silly question.
Where do you measure the distance to the target from? Muzzle? Eye?
Thanks!!
Muzzle
Hello si great video, just wanted to know I've got my near velocity for my rifle, do I need a chronograph to find out my far data or will the chair gun pro calculate my far velocity
Charlie Whitelegg You need a chrono to get your far velocity. Another way of doing it that isnt quite as accurate is right click on the BC tab in Chairgun and click on the drop in cm tab. This only works well though if you have a perfect zero at your primary range and then shoot and measure your drop at a further distance.
Hi Si, any reason you chose 44 meters for your "far data collection" i'm waiting for a chrono to arrive and i will using it with the Hawke system, i have a .177 rifle and was wondering if that (44) would be ok ?
It was just the distance I walked out to mate. As long as the distance is known accurately it's fine.
VerminHuntersTV Thank you for that !
VerminHuntersTV
in the field wit the side wind the pellet has to travel a longer way so it will end up lower.
What scales are they?
Si, use an app called strelokpro costs a couple of quid but much better than the Hawke software , use it you'll be amazed. Use it in the field no need to print out paper data
Let me know if you give it a go
Ben
What's the name of that programme?
Ftlb is V^2 x grn / 450240 (NOT) 450249- not that it will make any difference to the final muzzle energy result ;) Good video chaps.
No for more accurately doing it it 450249.
VerminHuntersTV I think we're both wrong Si. The denominator figure works out as 7000 (grains in a pound) x g x 2. If you take standard figures for g at 32.174049, you arrive at 450436.7 to one dec place.... but since the value of g depends where on the earth you measure it and has been in debate every since the French proposed their view (who would want to agreee with them), I think we are all allowed some artistic license. I think the 450240 figure was taken as being easy to remember. At the end of the day, it makes such a small difference to the equation to be a moot point.
rmjarre true mate. I've done calculations with the 450240 and 450249 and the foot poundage to 2 decimal points are identical.
VerminHuntersTV Hi there Si great video and good info as usual, I would just like to add that the police do not take an average FPS they take the Max ( as far as I know, so in your case you are well under 12 FPE so it matters not one jot, however Joe Soap could be running a bit nearer 12 FPE so average would make him safe but Max would have him/her in bother ) ATBM8 and thanks to you Dave for taking the trouble to upload all these vids.
Why does he always weigh each pellet, and not just weigh ten?
3:12 Bisect. Not Dissect.
450240....not 450249 :)