An Elric show is currently in development in the US, though it's looking shaky. The Runestaff saga is currently in pre-production at the BBC, MM seems happy with how it's looking so I'm hopeful!
Elric is not as popular, Ekric has no movie. Elric does not need to be popular among people who complain about everything on twitter, Elric needs no movie.
There are other people that watch movies besides people that complain on Twitter. I think the next great movies will come out by smaller studios that can seize the opportunity
Given what Apple are currently doing to Asimov's Foundation, I'm not sure it's a good idea to let anyone adapt Elric Seriously, I think that David S Goyer thought, "How can I make Asimov fans hate me forever and curse my name?"
Why? If you don't like it you don't have to watch it. If you don't try you'll never know. Fear of getting something wrong stifles creativity and innovation.
Why should they if they don't want to? It isn't for everyone. And our ancestors didn't read. You might also complain that this generation doesn't hunt; that's a much more pressing issue in my book :P
It wouldn't be possible to cover the complete arc of Elric in a single movie, but a first movie drawing on the book "Elric of Melnibone" would be doable with some good screenwriting. Another possibility is to adapt "The Eternal Champion" (Erekosë's story) to introduce the concepts at the core of Moorcock's multiverse (e.g. the eternal champion, the black sword, a non-human "elder race", etc.)
It sounds from this that a serial adaptation of Jerry Cornelius would suit you. The setting is diverse, but grounded in real history. It would be next to impossible to simply lift the stories or even the settings from the novels. The only constants would be the characters. It would probably turn into a less successful version of Quantum Leap, but it would suit your criteria.
The books are so loved because theyre good. I'm glad there are no eternal champion movies, they'd only ruin them. I'm a Moorcock fan, I hope there are never movies. The Constantine movie is aweful as an adaptation, thats nothing like comic character Constantine, its a pale immitation. Conan.. same again, nothing like the source material.
Tarzan has been around for a long time. It took a 100 years to bring a brother character to the screen, John Carter. I loved it, but because of a lack of promotion it bombed. Though I hear there may be a sequel. And I hear new scripts Has To Have a Diverse Cast. Despite the original source material canons.
Its probably for the best that there are no films or tv series about Elric. Would like to see an actual game though. But even then its probably for the best.
I read online there was apparently talk about doing a Netflix series of Elric and The people that made The Golden Compass were supposed to do a film adaptation but it fell through. Personally I think Michael Moorecock should have a Lionshare of Creative input to any film adaptation of his masterpiece. I have to agree with the Commentary in this video. Too many other people would probably try to add "Their Ideas" and it goes by the old saying "There's too many cooks in the Kitchen !" That being said for a good fillm adaptation of Elric I believe Michael Moorecock would have to have complete creative imput or a large percentage of it because Elric is his baby
It doesn't need a movie, but if it were to be a movie, I believe that Doug Jones would make a good Elric. It would make a really good anime (specifically rather than a cartoon). I'm not against cartoons but the style is really so different.
He is a good guy who doesn't sue people and others take advantage. Del Toro was holding the option for making an Elric film, he made Hellboy II and added the elf prince character which killed an Elric film. Now with The Witcher, House of Dragons, War Craft, Marvel, DC, and a certain Drow making a reappearance it isn't likely. The Witcher has so many other similarities and the author had just finished translating the Moorcock books when he was asked to write a book himself and turned out the Witcher a year later. Game of Thrones is filled with references to Elric, they were added on purpose by George R R Martin to the episodes he wrote for as a tribute to his influence. The fringes of Martins world is populated by authors who influenced him. Marvel and DC are directly influenced by Moorcock through influenced writers, stealing writers, and direct publication and incorporation. DC has recently just ripped the Law Chaos war and the balance directly.
I keep hearing that Sapkowski translated Elric books into Polish. Is that legitimately true? If so give me a source. Im on the Sapkowski is a thief train too. But I want to know where that claim came from.
@@Bu11yMagu1re in the 80's he worked for a publisher, possibly a TOR affiliate, and translated English language Sci-Fi and fantasy into his native tounge. The uncertainty of the company is because the info has been removed from most online sources. He wasn't actually tasked with an Elric Translation but was given a different work to translate by the author he also was given others works they had access to including Elric. Shortly after working his way through Moorcock he was asked to write a story and the Witcher was born. When the subject of infringement was raised his first response was that he had never heard of or read anything by Moorcock in his life and at one point even going the didn't speak English route. The fact that he learned English in university and is on record having worked as a translator of English Fantasy and Sci-fi has been avoided by his party. He has also written an in depth encyclopedia of things, terms, and magics from an overview of English language fantasy. In the end though he is in a difficult spot, What started as a request for a magazine filling quick short story snowballed into a multinational empire through shifting global politics, games, other media, and outside partnerships. Now he is proclaimed the Polish "Tolkien" and rather than a writer who cribbed a story once he is a national icon and the most important cultural export. There are multiple corporate and national entities who have a vested interest in the conversation never happening so I doubt it ever will as he is bound to Polish international image. The makers of the video games have been aware of the issue for a long time which is the reason the games started to diverge from cannon on certain story elements and the characters look which actually caused enough backlash from the Witcher camp that it helped bring the issue to light. For Moorcock's part he could care less about these things and only gets insulted when treated disrespectfully or if one of his characters is significantly or philosophically changed while being presented as the same character. Moorcock has written many stories in the styles and locations of other authors or as response to their characters, each one of them is plastered with the name of the original authors or even have the authors themselves as cameo characters and they all say the same basic thing in the forward. These Authors are amazing and my personal literary heroes as well as urging the reader to go read the other authors books instead of his. Hell if not for the forwards in Moorcock books I wouldn't have a few books on my shelf like the Solomon Kane stuff. He even did an open Tribute series to E R Burroughs and the John Carter series called "Kane of Old Mars".
He doesn’t sue precisely because that’s his strategy. His name may not ring a bell to many people, but his core concepts and influences spread throughout the minds of fans and different forms of media. Take Go Nagai, for example. Many movies and series take elements from his works.
The Witcher uses potions to enhance his fighting abilities, and can use magic in a limited way. Elric relies on potions and spells to maintain function, as his physical body is weak. In both worlds, power requires sacrifice and is never truly controlled by the wielder. I’d love to see an adaptation, but it would be a tough to capture the subtleties.
i keep thinking of john carter movie that bombed . people sat there going "ho hum seen all this before " not realising the 1st novel was out about 100 years ago and that's where nearly every scifi movie stole their stuffz from.
I always thought that Moorcock's works feature political content. In one interview, he states, "I am an anarchist and a pragmatist. My moral/philosophical position is that of an anarchist."In describing how his writing relates to his political philosophy, Moorcock says, "My books frequently deal with aristocratic heroes, gods and so forth. All of them end on a note which often states quite directly that one should serve neither gods nor masters but become one's own master."[19]llllBesides using fiction to explore his politics,[1Moorcock also engages in non-violent political activism. In order to "marginalize stuff that works to objectify women and suggests women enjoy being beaten", he has encouraged W H Smiths to move John Norman's Gor series novels to the top shelf.
Two reasons why not, at least the past couple dwcades- First, there's Burroughs' 'John Carter' flopped hard at the box office, for a boatload of reasons. Also, Terry Brooks' 'Shannara' TV series was a horrific mess, despite the author being exec producer Now, why there weren't movies in the 1980's, the heyday of sword & sorcery? I can only guess that Moorcock was indeed contacted for licensing, and he said, 'yeaaaaahhhh, nah'
Late to the convo. But I absolutely love the idea of 100% verbatim conversions. It's a different medium and I don't like when the silver screen deviates at all. I just want the same story but with sound and vision tickling the brain. Case in point. The lord of the rings trilogy. Not an example of absolute verbatim. But very faithful to the source material. Another example is Harry Potter. To this day, the die hard fans lament how much was cut in the adaptation.
I’m guessing they are at best in development hell and that for many years MM didn’t actually have the rights. As to him being involved, he’s super old now so I’d not count on it. Faithful realizations of the existing stories like early GoT would be great.
Everyone looks to an Elric or Hawkmoon movie, probably as dictated by the success of Game of Thrones. However, I would submit that perhaps a lesser known novel would make a far more interesting film/series, that is "The Warlord of the Air" with its hero Oswald Bastable. I feel the steampunk setting and alternative British Empire would make for a good series, with plenty of scope for developing a world barely scratched upon in the book.
As for Star Wars, the newer prequels go against canon. If a story is finished and you want more, you're the problem. One can compare, you refuse to compare.
I've recently started reading his books (specificaly the Elric books) and I'm super confused as to why there are no movies. Esp now, because right now the people in hollywood seem to be absolutely obsessed with "representation" and "diversity". Which on the surface are great things, but the way hollywood implements them is by race and gender swapping half the cast. Forcing token minorities into roles or, mainly, adapting IP's that aren't very diverse (at least in skin color) and then making all the cultures, peoples and races in what ever they are adapting as multicultural as an average bougie LA neighborhood. Meanwhile, here we have an extremely progressive writer with extremely diverse characters in his books being completely ignored.
he's kind of protective about his stuff but he'a opening to something. yes he's very progressive, especially the other books that are outside the sword and sorcery genre. the new wave-y stuff
maybe moorcock is very happy with his level of wealth and doesn't need hundreds of millions of dollars throwing at him . maybe he has seen what happened to star wars , first 3 movies - great , everything after -rubbish , and doesn't want his 'baby' taken away from him by american money men. maybe he's seen grr martin and doesnt want to be executive prodcer on set and everyone begging him to release the last 2 novels that will explain everything , and publicity tours (at his age) .i can't see Elric lunchboxes or Elric mickey mouse timex watches ever being popular . finally elric is meant to be slightly alien .he isn't human . the white skin , the red eyes ,the tapering long head/face could involve a lot of makeup/cgi and might still come off very naff. having said all that i would love a movie/series ,. when they did the 1st few pirates of the caribbean movies i thought "hmm might be time for elric , the sailing ships and gods and monsters can now be done with these day's tech" but they've become a bit of a cash cow now . maybe we should just leave it all alone . it can still be our little secret among the cool kids and geeks . i'm still waiting for the norse eddas to have a decent world spanning trilogy of films but i dunno who i'd trust to do them and it's a very similar set up to elric's gotterdammerung :)
It better be from someone who is passionate about the adaptation. I don't wanna see another Witcher situation with Netflix. The director and production matters here. I hope modern identity politics is not a part if it.
Elric is an ultra privileged snob with a dying empire (a lot like the British Empire). Elric is not exactly "down with the plebians" peasants like Conan The Barbarian. I like some of that premise, but I never got into reading these books. IMHO Elric is not someone easy to portray as likeable with sympathy from a big audience, like a lot identify with like Conan or salt of the earth mundane people.
Would love to see a stormbringer movie but it’d have to come after like two others and be the end of a trilogy obviously. It’s my favorite book and I’d love to see Pan tang’s capital of screaming statues on the big screen. Sadly Hollywood doesn’t take risks these days.
If they ever do Elric movies/a tv show (which i hope they do!) The simple truth is, it will not quite be Moorecock's creation. No more than the movie Conans were quite Howard's creation. It cannot be. No more than any movie/tv show can ever quite BE Stephen King's story. You add more than one creative cook in the kichler and the recipe is going to be changed. If for no other reason than the artistic medium is different. Still - i love Elric. I want some movies/tv shows. & the "eternal champion " concept was brilliant. Perhaps a sci fi character in the future who learns what he is & then learns about Elric through artifacts, legends & investigation.
I just realized that Quantum Leap fits into the Eternal Champion mould as Al is definitely a Moonglum and Ziggy the Runestaff. I am imagining a backdoor pilot for Elric at the end of a Quantum Leap Episode where Sam Jumps into Corum seconds before the four become one to fight pan-dimensional cosmic wizards from outside reality.
I’d love to see the eternal champions or something become a series, but I don’t want it to get to super hero ish and I also thinks that all Netflix and bs adaptations of things rn, would be awful. The only people who could do a serious enough and not cringe version of Elric or something else would be whoever did GoT or HoD. A movie is too short. The eternal champions have too wild of adventures for a 2 hour sitting. They’d need a saga. Which would be cool. The problem I have is with directors just putting their own spin on stuff and it just makes it bad. Like the Witcher or rings of power. Just bleh.
Too many producers and directors couldn’t care less about the source material, they just want a vehicle to punch their own propagandist narrative! If I were an author the last thing I’d do is sign the rights to my work over to anyone. Want to make a movie or television adaptation, I’m executive producer with absolute veto power when someone else wants to change my story for their bs.
Moorcock needed to have pushed for a film in the 80's... before the copycat thiefs The Witcher and George RR Martin stole his ideas. seriously.. how blatant are those plagiarisms. He basically just lost his perfect time to do it. I'm assuming. Now, producers are just gonna be less receptive.
As a fan of the games that pisses me of. But as a fan of Elric and Michael Moorckock it also brings me joy. Sapkowski is a wannabe Tolkien who copied Moorckocs work and created the Witcher only because of his greed for money. He deserves to see his "work" to be ruined in any way!
Because many "adults" today are reading children's books, watching japanese cartoons and collecting dollies. They have not read anything at an adult level. It's wiped out films, tv, comics and novels.
Look no further than Rings of Power, adapt in animation instead, live action is the death of literature. A Person Is Fine, People Are Always Problematic. Live Action Adaption Have Always Been Risky Mistake. No, A Translation Is Better Than Live Action Adaption. Who Are These People You Keep Saying No Want A Word For Word Translation? A Live Action Translation Has Never Been Done, That Would Satisfy. Fully Translate The Books, Where The Books End Continue It With Moorcock, That's All. Your Desire For New And Different Is Ruin.
I loved the original Elriq books when I was a kid, but to be honest, rereading them as an adult I realize that they are pretty one-dimensional, and lack interesting dialogue and plot. So that could have something to do with it. On the other hand, I say that realizing that the Witcher books are being made into a series, and knowing that those books are actually pretty terrible.
@@Rick-5728They’ve quite a bit in common actually Mr.Noodlegawd. Both Characters are Mercenaries,Both Characters have a last name declaring where they are from,Both characters do slay various monsters for profit.
@@Psychokyuubi666so did leonardo da vinci , whats your point? Also geralt isnt royalty nor does ge fuck his cousin repeatedly , geratl doesnt rely on potions and magic to get the job done or a magical sword. Geralt was human but was MADE a witcher , elric was born a feeble brooding miserable insufferable sanctimonious little prick. No similarities to be had try again.
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Elric has no movie
Elric needs no movie
I love the entire Eternal Champion multiverse, but I’m not sure I’d want to see an adaptation given the current state of cinema.
Animation maybe
@@DerrickSeaborne Yeah! that could be good, would be easier anyway.
I think if they took more chances, like a Corum series, they might make better movies.
@@DerrickSeaborne If they drew it in a style similar to Yoshitaka Amano, that would be amazing.
Animation has been neutered since 2008.
There is at least one Moorcock film: The Final Programme (1973), based on the Jerry Cornelius novel.
It wasn't all that good to be honest I've got a copy of it somewhere.
@@dredDmeredith I like aspects of it, but it's not the book. It's more of a goofy curiosity.
moorcock himself worked on it but the director pratically ignored all inpunt from
him
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Programme_(film)
It's definitely a movie worth watching.
I always thought a rock n roll animated Elric short would be awesome Heavy-Metalesque
Hawkins did an album and a tour based on Elric.
Hawkwind,the chronicle of the black sword.
@@dylangjones1 Got that and saw them on the tour, awesome.
Read the story Go Ask Elric from the book Tales Of The White Wolf, to see Elric take on a metal tone xD written by Tad Williams, great story
If Hawkwind doesn't do the soundtrack it won't work. The sound Stormbringer makes is the droning, background riff in the song "You Shouldn't Do That"
Dancers at the end of time would be a Great movie , or two. Now there is the tech to do it visually. Fantastic story !
And Gilliam or Del Toro can direct it..
Never let the chaos lords of Netflix or Amazon get their mitts on Elric.
. . . or Disney.
An Elric show is currently in development in the US, though it's looking shaky. The Runestaff saga is currently in pre-production at the BBC, MM seems happy with how it's looking so I'm hopeful!
I dread to think what the BBC will do to this seminal piece
Any news as of late 2023?
@@brunoe1891 Nope. Dropped. Apple had an option on the rights but that's gone nowhere.
In that case i suggest to adapting Elric in an adult Cartoon in Many seasons or a videogame, which is in development for 2024;)
Elric is not as popular, Ekric has no movie.
Elric does not need to be popular among people who complain about everything on twitter, Elric needs no movie.
There are other people that watch movies besides people that complain on Twitter. I think the next great movies will come out by smaller studios that can seize the opportunity
Given what Apple are currently doing to Asimov's Foundation, I'm not sure it's a good idea to let anyone adapt Elric
Seriously, I think that David S Goyer thought, "How can I make Asimov fans hate me forever and curse my name?"
Always thought Goyer was hilariously overrated. He wrote the script to a shitty Crow sequel.
Why? If you don't like it you don't have to watch it. If you don't try you'll never know. Fear of getting something wrong stifles creativity and innovation.
They would probably call him Eric
A proper video game also. Would be amazing. But it would need to be a passion project.
there's ONE moorcock film based on the first book of Jerry Cornelius I think
this new gen don't READ
Nor do they appreciate printed works from days gone by. Or views that are not like theirs.
Why should they if they don't want to? It isn't for everyone. And our ancestors didn't read. You might also complain that this generation doesn't hunt; that's a much more pressing issue in my book :P
We had also got one of the best videogame series of all time inspired by Elric/ Moorcock in general Blood Omen/ Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
YES
It wouldn't be possible to cover the complete arc of Elric in a single movie, but a first movie drawing on the book "Elric of Melnibone" would be doable with some good screenwriting. Another possibility is to adapt "The Eternal Champion" (Erekosë's story) to introduce the concepts at the core of Moorcock's multiverse (e.g. the eternal champion, the black sword, a non-human "elder race", etc.)
It sounds from this that a serial adaptation of Jerry Cornelius would suit you. The setting is diverse, but grounded in real history. It would be next to impossible to simply lift the stories or even the settings from the novels. The only constants would be the characters.
It would probably turn into a less successful version of Quantum Leap, but it would suit your criteria.
The chronicals of castle brass would be awsome. Hawkmoon, count brass, bowgentle, Oladan, yisselda, baron meliadas. such great characters.
I often lament the same.
Would make for some incredible animated movies... There are some great comics
The books are so loved because theyre good. I'm glad there are no eternal champion movies, they'd only ruin them. I'm a Moorcock fan, I hope there are never movies.
The Constantine movie is aweful as an adaptation, thats nothing like comic character Constantine, its a pale immitation. Conan.. same again, nothing like the source material.
Tarzan has been around for a long time. It took a 100 years to bring a brother character to the screen, John Carter. I loved it, but because of a lack of promotion it bombed. Though I hear there may be a sequel. And I hear new scripts Has To Have a Diverse Cast. Despite the original source material canons.
Its probably for the best that there are no films or tv series about Elric.
Would like to see an actual game though. But even then its probably for the best.
Do you remember the first conan the barbarian video game? I do , but more then a few dont
@@johnjohnon8767 I remember reading about it in some magazines but never played it.
I read online there was apparently talk about doing a Netflix series of Elric and The people that made The Golden Compass were supposed to do a film adaptation but it fell through. Personally I think Michael Moorecock should have a Lionshare of Creative input to any film adaptation of his masterpiece. I have to agree with the Commentary in this video. Too many other people would probably try to add "Their Ideas" and it goes by the old saying "There's too many cooks in the Kitchen !" That being said for a good fillm adaptation of Elric I believe Michael Moorecock would have to have complete creative imput or a large percentage of it because Elric is his baby
It doesn't need a movie, but if it were to be a movie, I believe that Doug Jones would make a good Elric.
It would make a really good anime (specifically rather than a cartoon). I'm not against cartoons but the style is really so different.
I don't know if this gonna get any hate, but I always thought that Moorecock's work would lend itself well to old school gritty 80s anime.
He is a good guy who doesn't sue people and others take advantage.
Del Toro was holding the option for making an Elric film, he made Hellboy II and added the elf prince character which killed an Elric film.
Now with The Witcher, House of Dragons, War Craft, Marvel, DC, and a certain Drow making a reappearance it isn't likely.
The Witcher has so many other similarities and the author had just finished translating the Moorcock books when he was asked to write a book himself and turned out the Witcher a year later.
Game of Thrones is filled with references to Elric, they were added on purpose by George R R Martin to the episodes he wrote for as a tribute to his influence.
The fringes of Martins world is populated by authors who influenced him.
Marvel and DC are directly influenced by Moorcock through influenced writers, stealing writers, and direct publication and incorporation.
DC has recently just ripped the Law Chaos war and the balance directly.
I keep hearing that Sapkowski translated Elric books into Polish. Is that legitimately true? If so give me a source.
Im on the Sapkowski is a thief train too. But I want to know where that claim came from.
@@Bu11yMagu1re in the 80's he worked for a publisher, possibly a TOR affiliate, and translated English language Sci-Fi and fantasy into his native tounge.
The uncertainty of the company is because the info has been removed from most online sources.
He wasn't actually tasked with an Elric Translation but was given a different work to translate by the author he also was given others works they had access to including Elric.
Shortly after working his way through Moorcock he was asked to write a story and the Witcher was born.
When the subject of infringement was raised his first response was that he had never heard of or read anything by Moorcock in his life and at one point even going the didn't speak English route.
The fact that he learned English in university and is on record having worked as a translator of English Fantasy and Sci-fi has been avoided by his party.
He has also written an in depth encyclopedia of things, terms, and magics from an overview of English language fantasy.
In the end though he is in a difficult spot,
What started as a request for a magazine filling quick short story snowballed into a multinational empire through shifting global politics, games, other media, and outside partnerships.
Now he is proclaimed the Polish "Tolkien" and rather than a writer who cribbed a story once he is a national icon and the most important cultural export.
There are multiple corporate and national entities who have a vested interest in the conversation never happening so I doubt it ever will as he is bound to Polish international image.
The makers of the video games have been aware of the issue for a long time which is the reason the games started to diverge from cannon on certain story elements and the characters look which actually caused enough backlash from the Witcher camp that it helped bring the issue to light.
For Moorcock's part he could care less about these things and only gets insulted when treated disrespectfully or if one of his characters is significantly or philosophically changed while being presented as the same character.
Moorcock has written many stories in the styles and locations of other authors or as response to their characters, each one of them is plastered with the name of the original authors or even have the authors themselves as cameo characters and they all say the same basic thing in the forward.
These Authors are amazing and my personal literary heroes as well as urging the reader to go read the other authors books instead of his.
Hell if not for the forwards in Moorcock books I wouldn't have a few books on my shelf like the Solomon Kane stuff.
He even did an open Tribute series to E R Burroughs and the John Carter series called "Kane of Old Mars".
He doesn’t sue precisely because that’s his strategy. His name may not ring a bell to many people, but his core concepts and influences spread throughout the minds of fans and different forms of media. Take Go Nagai, for example. Many movies and series take elements from his works.
Elric was good in Hellboy 2
Luke Goss would be perfect as Elric...
He was better in the Witcher, he kinda sucks as knull
The Witcher uses potions to enhance his fighting abilities, and can use magic in a limited way. Elric relies on potions and spells to maintain function, as his physical body is weak. In both worlds, power requires sacrifice and is never truly controlled by the wielder. I’d love to see an adaptation, but it would be a tough to capture the subtleties.
They kinda look similar too, almost certainly not a coincidence.
I would have loved to see Wendy Pini to finish the animated project that she was working on. There’s a book called Law & Chaos.
If an Elric movie is ever made, I think Tom Hiddleston would be perfect for the role. Also, it should be a TV series rather than a movie
No! No! No! GOD NO!!! No more of the Marvel circle jerk.
i keep thinking of john carter movie that bombed . people sat there going "ho hum seen all this before " not realising the 1st novel was out about 100 years ago and that's where nearly every scifi movie stole their stuffz from.
The only work of Moorcock's I want adapted to the big screen is 'The War Hound and the World's Pain'
I always thought that Moorcock's works feature political content. In one interview, he states, "I am an anarchist and a pragmatist. My moral/philosophical position is that of an anarchist."In describing how his writing relates to his political philosophy, Moorcock says, "My books frequently deal with aristocratic heroes, gods and so forth. All of them end on a note which often states quite directly that one should serve neither gods nor masters but become one's own master."[19]llllBesides using fiction to explore his politics,[1Moorcock also engages in non-violent political activism. In order to "marginalize stuff that works to objectify women and suggests women enjoy being beaten", he has encouraged W H Smiths to move John Norman's Gor series novels to the top shelf.
Two reasons why not, at least the past couple dwcades-
First, there's Burroughs' 'John Carter' flopped hard at the box office, for a boatload of reasons.
Also, Terry Brooks' 'Shannara' TV series was a horrific mess, despite the author being exec producer
Now, why there weren't movies in the 1980's, the heyday of sword & sorcery? I can only guess that Moorcock was indeed contacted for licensing, and he said, 'yeaaaaahhhh, nah'
That window is gone should have made a cartoon 30 years ago or Saturday morning show
With what's happening at the moment a Hawkmoon flick might be ok
Late to the convo. But I absolutely love the idea of 100% verbatim conversions. It's a different medium and I don't like when the silver screen deviates at all. I just want the same story but with sound and vision tickling the brain.
Case in point. The lord of the rings trilogy. Not an example of absolute verbatim. But very faithful to the source material. Another example is Harry Potter. To this day, the die hard fans lament how much was cut in the adaptation.
I’m guessing they are at best in development hell and that for many years MM didn’t actually have the rights.
As to him being involved, he’s super old now so I’d not count on it. Faithful realizations of the existing stories like early GoT would be great.
Everyone looks to an Elric or Hawkmoon movie, probably as dictated by the success of Game of Thrones.
However, I would submit that perhaps a lesser known novel would make a far more interesting film/series, that is "The Warlord of the Air" with its hero Oswald Bastable. I feel the steampunk setting and alternative British Empire would make for a good series, with plenty of scope for developing a world barely scratched upon in the book.
How's about Eddings' Belgariad/Mallorean series?
The CGI is definitely ready for it. It would need to be a mini-series.
As for Star Wars, the newer prequels go against canon.
If a story is finished and you want more, you're the problem.
One can compare, you refuse to compare.
Mike WAS working on an Elric script. I believe it’s Dead, now, though.
Yup.
because he threw shade at tolkien and his fantasy work was subpar in comparison.
I've recently started reading his books (specificaly the Elric books) and I'm super confused as to why there are no movies. Esp now, because right now the people in hollywood seem to be absolutely obsessed with "representation" and "diversity". Which on the surface are great things, but the way hollywood implements them is by race and gender swapping half the cast. Forcing token minorities into roles or, mainly, adapting IP's that aren't very diverse (at least in skin color) and then making all the cultures, peoples and races in what ever they are adapting as multicultural as an average bougie LA neighborhood. Meanwhile, here we have an extremely progressive writer with extremely diverse characters in his books being completely ignored.
he's kind of protective about his stuff but he'a opening to something. yes he's very progressive, especially the other books that are outside the sword and sorcery genre. the new wave-y stuff
Larian Studios if they will do a Elric Game would be the right way they are grown up with this stories.
maybe moorcock is very happy with his level of wealth and doesn't need hundreds of millions of dollars throwing at him . maybe he has seen what happened to star wars , first 3 movies - great , everything after -rubbish , and doesn't want his 'baby' taken away from him by american money men. maybe he's seen grr martin and doesnt want to be executive prodcer on set and everyone begging him to release the last 2 novels that will explain everything , and publicity tours (at his age) .i can't see Elric lunchboxes or Elric mickey mouse timex watches ever being popular . finally elric is meant to be slightly alien .he isn't human . the white skin , the red eyes ,the tapering long head/face could involve a lot of makeup/cgi and might still come off very naff. having said all that i would love a movie/series ,. when they did the 1st few pirates of the caribbean movies i thought "hmm might be time for elric , the sailing ships and gods and monsters can now be done with these day's tech" but they've become a bit of a cash cow now . maybe we should just leave it all alone . it can still be our little secret among the cool kids and geeks . i'm still waiting for the norse eddas to have a decent world spanning trilogy of films but i dunno who i'd trust to do them and it's a very similar set up to elric's gotterdammerung :)
MMs Dancers at the End of Time or The Oswald Bastable trilogy would both make decent multiverse streaming series...
Eternal champion video game would be amazing as well
It better be from someone who is passionate about the adaptation. I don't wanna see another Witcher situation with Netflix. The director and production matters here. I hope modern identity politics is not a part if it.
quantity over quality
Can they jump into
A Hawkmoon Movie. or do they half Go with Elric first.
because we have idiot like poserfist praising his work on youtube, that is anti promotion for Michael Moorcock movies
Elric is an ultra privileged snob with a dying empire (a lot like the British Empire). Elric is not exactly "down with the plebians" peasants like Conan The Barbarian. I like some of that premise, but I never got into reading these books. IMHO Elric is not someone easy to portray as likeable with sympathy from a big audience, like a lot identify with like Conan or salt of the earth mundane people.
Elric is a Buddha / Jesus character of a deliberately malevolent culture... you can't ask for more as a writer
Would love to see a stormbringer movie but it’d have to come after like two others and be the end of a trilogy obviously. It’s my favorite book and I’d love to see Pan tang’s capital of screaming statues on the big screen. Sadly Hollywood doesn’t take risks these days.
Take a look at The Final Program. Film.
Recently reissued on blu-ray!
If they ever do Elric movies/a tv show (which i hope they do!) The simple truth is, it will not quite be Moorecock's creation. No more than the movie Conans were quite Howard's creation. It cannot be. No more than any movie/tv show can ever quite BE Stephen King's story. You add more than one creative cook in the kichler and the recipe is going to be changed. If for no other reason than the artistic medium is different.
Still - i love Elric. I want some movies/tv shows. & the "eternal champion " concept was brilliant.
Perhaps a sci fi character in the future who learns what he is & then learns about Elric through artifacts, legends & investigation.
yes - like - the crow or the turtles or anything... the licensed product at least serves as an elaborate advertisement for the original
I just realized that Quantum Leap fits into the Eternal Champion mould as Al is definitely a Moonglum and Ziggy the Runestaff.
I am imagining a backdoor pilot for Elric at the end of a Quantum Leap Episode where Sam Jumps into Corum seconds before the four become one to fight pan-dimensional cosmic wizards from outside reality.
I think a series would be better.
The reality is it's gone down the marvel multi verse route and over invested in it
Because a lot of people copy his work.
The film has never been as good as the book ,it can only been one person’s interpretation and would clash with others imagination,so no film
I guess it Depends on the writer
I’d love to see the eternal champions or something become a series, but I don’t want it to get to super hero ish and I also thinks that all Netflix and bs adaptations of things rn, would be awful. The only people who could do a serious enough and not cringe version of Elric or something else would be whoever did GoT or HoD. A movie is too short. The eternal champions have too wild of adventures for a 2 hour sitting. They’d need a saga. Which would be cool. The problem I have is with directors just putting their own spin on stuff and it just makes it bad. Like the Witcher or rings of power. Just bleh.
Peter Jackson needs to make the elric movies!!!!!!
Moorcock apparently disliked how Jackson adapted those books.
i wood ask the Writer himself
Too many producers and directors couldn’t care less about the source material, they just want a vehicle to punch their own propagandist narrative! If I were an author the last thing I’d do is sign the rights to my work over to anyone. Want to make a movie or television adaptation, I’m executive producer with absolute veto power when someone else wants to change my story for their bs.
GoT stole the whole Melnibonean race.
George R. R. Martin got his start as a very annoying fanboy at science fiction conventions.
Anomander/Elric one coin two sides.
yes so true
In the fight against the Crab Feeder Damon Targaryen has a helm ripped off from the dragon helm depicted on the 70’s cover of “ Elric of Melnibone’
The current film industry would only disrespect the source material.
I'd like to see Zach Snyder take a try at Elric. I think he'd stay true to the stories.
That would be awesome. He definetly could pull off the dreamlike visuals/ storytelling. Just need someone with a competent script.
Nah, definitely not him. I don't understand why everyone likes his movies, I just find them boring.
@@Lomeranyar I have to admit, I haven't seen ALL of his stuff.
Moorcock needed to have pushed for a film in the 80's... before the copycat thiefs The Witcher and George RR Martin stole his ideas. seriously.. how blatant are those plagiarisms. He basically just lost his perfect time to do it. I'm assuming. Now, producers are just gonna be less receptive.
George, I think, has enough differences, so he is fine. I can't speak on the witcher since I haven't read it.
The technology wasn't there in the 80s.
Yeah, but Witcher has been annihilated and is now the Ciri : Power Girl show.
As a fan of the games that pisses me of. But as a fan of Elric and Michael Moorckock it also brings me joy. Sapkowski is a wannabe Tolkien who copied Moorckocs work and created the Witcher only because of his greed for money. He deserves to see his "work" to be ruined in any way!
Because many "adults" today are reading children's books, watching japanese cartoons and collecting dollies.
They have not read anything at an adult level.
It's wiped out films, tv, comics and novels.
You said it, friend!
A animated series on Netflix like Blue Eyed Samurai is a good way to go
Look no further than Rings of Power, adapt in animation instead, live action is the death of literature.
A Person Is Fine, People Are Always Problematic.
Live Action Adaption Have Always Been Risky Mistake.
No, A Translation Is Better Than Live Action Adaption.
Who Are These People You Keep Saying No Want A Word For Word Translation? A Live Action Translation Has Never Been Done, That Would Satisfy.
Fully Translate The Books, Where The Books End Continue It With Moorcock, That's All.
Your Desire For New And Different Is Ruin.
I loved the original Elriq books when I was a kid, but to be honest, rereading them as an adult I realize that they are pretty one-dimensional, and lack interesting dialogue and plot. So that could have something to do with it. On the other hand, I say that realizing that the Witcher books are being made into a series, and knowing that those books are actually pretty terrible.
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I hope there is no movie like the woke Marvel Multiverse or woke Star Wars nowadays.
Look at The Witcher..... It is a Rip Off, Elric...
Not really. The stories literally have nothing in common.
@@Rick-5728They’ve quite a bit in common actually Mr.Noodlegawd.
Both Characters are Mercenaries,Both Characters have a last name declaring where they are from,Both characters do slay various monsters for profit.
@@Psychokyuubi666so did leonardo da vinci , whats your point? Also geralt isnt royalty nor does ge fuck his cousin repeatedly , geratl doesnt rely on potions and magic to get the job done or a magical sword. Geralt was human but was MADE a witcher , elric was born a feeble brooding miserable insufferable sanctimonious little prick. No similarities to be had try again.