Great test! 5cm of thick cardboard is impressive. I can’t believe the 50 cal went a little deeper than the 68!. Very interesting! Thank you as always from Miami
Thank you my friend. Both revolvers hit hard. The 50 gets deeper because it has a smaller diameter ammo. It would go even deeper (ca 7 cm) if I use the heavy 86 grn slugs. Greetings from Norway 😃👍
Another good video! Hey Rune, here some tests results that I had for one Co2 canister: Hdr .68 16J but with gas restrictor hole drilled to 1 mm Hdr .50 11J but with valve block removed and gas restrictor hole drilled to 1 mm Hdr .68 got around 380 FPS with 6 gram balls, 3 very powerful shots, the last 2 very weak and that was it, also the penetration depth was so and so Hdr .50 got over 500 FPS with 2.6 gram hot glue slugs, 6-8 very powerful shots, up to 12 shots it was stock power and that was it. The penetration was double and the bang it did was comparable to a firearm. I would say too loud! I think I prefer the HDR .50 because of a better CO2 autonomy vs power ratio, penetration and speed better than HDR .68. I would say HDR.50 will produce more intense pain than HDR .68.
Thank you my friend. Very nice power you got from both markers. Yes the sound from the HDR50 is more than the HDR68. The 50 will have better penetrating power since it has less dimaeter. I bet it would hurt more to be shot with the 50 to, plus the risk of ammo penetrating skin etc.. 🤔
@@runerebel8441 yup, I would avoid shooting at someone with hot glue slugs as they have the 8mm steel ball that can penetrate at around 26 - 30 joules...I would use hard rubber balls instead
An interesting take. I have been trying to find some kind of comment about these two comparisons for a while since im trying to decide to get one or the other.... (without modding) or i might mod them and get all the attachments for them. but cool, i was also thinking the .50 as well
Interesting test - with black powder revolver in 44 cal it will go through 7cm of wood but it has like at least 10 times more of kinetic energy (like 300+ joules), still it is a lot of fun shooting those paintball markers, especially that you can do it at home😁
Thank you. Yes blackpowder is a nother storry. I have shot a lot with both rifles and handguns in my younger years, and they are great fun indeed. These days its only paintball markers, but they are fun also 😁👍
As for penetration I've only tested some target 9mm ammo once at 50m going straight thru 2" pine wood. I did not try any thicker and nothing unique with that, but I wasn't absolutely sure it would go thru with my knowledge at the time. However, penetration tests are always interesting. I got to test my HDP 50 at cardboard outside at 20m when the spring comes. Great video!
Now I wait for the barrel and the trommel from hdf.24. I have tuned my HDR 50, and it will be a bit more expensive hobby now. 12 good shoots from one capsule. I also have a Red/Green dot sight and a laser. on it. Easy to get hooked on toys for big boys.🤠
Yes they are great "toys" for adults 👍. Looking foreward to hear how you like the HD-24 barrel and alu-cylinder. They work great in my powertuned 7,5 joule version. Good luck and happy shooting 👌👍
My new 11 Joule version HDR50 outperforms claims by a wide margin. After shooting 6 rounds through to test aiming point, I tried a chrono test. Using 130 gr. steel balls, I saw a high of 507 fps for 74.22 fpe or 100.63 Joules ! This is without ANY modifications. It eats through CO2 quickly, only about 12 rds before steep drop off in velocity, but because I intend to use it strictly as a home defense weapon, this isn't a concern. Imaging a perp getting hit with a steel ball at 545 MPH !
Are you sure? Perhaps it is a chronograph error. I bought a cheap chronograph on Amazon and I'm not sure of the readings. Actually the cheapest chronograph on Amazon had reliable readings but I bought a different one that was much bigger. And I'm not sure about the bigger one that was somewhat more expensive, but was the cheapest one of its type.
@@earthenscience Yes, without barrel extension, HDR50 is unlikely to achieve such power. With 22" barrel extension and 1100 psi HPA, it can hit 100 joules.
@@earthenscience Seems strange. I have TR50 (7.5 Joule version USA), I took out valve block and it has no restrictor. I hooked up to 850psi HPA tank and it was outputting far greater power than my TR68 (7.5 Joule version USA). Sound was incredibly loud and while unmodified TR68 on CO2 went through maybe one or two cardboard, HDR50 on HPA went through everything and hit metal back stop.
Great Review and testing. I am interested with the bigger 68 Caliber because it carries bigger pepper balls in case of emergency. The only thing that stopping me from getting it is that it has only 5 shot magazine. I have no experience yet with that kind of circular magazine, do you think i can put those circular magazine loaded in my pocket without losing the ammo in my pocket when i move around ? I always watch your videos, keep up the good work.
Thank you my friend. Iam very glad you like my videos. In the USA it is sold with 4 spare cylinder/magazines, so you can carry them loaded in your pocket. Its very quick to change cylinders. Extra cylinders can be bought seperatly. They even sell a Umarex hard plastic holster for this model. Take care and stay safe my friend 😃
God video,jeg tænkte netop på at teste min nyt indkøbte HDR50 på noget pap,du gjorde arbejdet for mig,jeg venter på min nye HDR68 nu. Tak fra Knud fra danmark...
If both tuned up Im guessing the 68 is better for self defence because of the higher mass of the bullet. But how much you think is the difference? Will the 68 hurt a lot more than the 50? Im hesitating in buing the hdr 68 because of it's very big size? Is the Any cheap alternatives in caliber .68? I Like the pistols better than the revolvers. So looking at the hdp 50 Any recomendations in what i should get?
Hi. If you like pistols more than revolvers then buy the HDP50. If you remove the valveblock you will get 20+ joules from it. I think that is enough power. The HDR68 is my favorite of all the markers, but I dont carry it around. The HDR68 give ca 30 joule if you remove the valve block. But its a large marker and can be a pain to drag around because of the size. So I recommend the HDP50. Use aluminium balls for max effect. Good luck
I tried shooting myself from a distance of 5 meters on my left and right legs and the result was that the 17mm had a larger bruise area than the 12.7....HDR 68 just made my pain area bigger but the lethality made no difference.
How many joules are your guns? I can buckle metal and my slugs will get stuck if I shoot a tree so I would assume something worse would happen if a person get shot. Either way, interesting
The HDR50 is an 11 joule version that has been removed the valveblock on. So it gives ca 18 joule depending on ammo. The HDR68 is a 16 joule but it gives ca 25+ joule.@@estebalstigopopoluz
The HDR50 I have in this video will give ca 16 joule with the 1,06 gram rubberballs. The reason it penetrated better than the HDR68 wich gave ca 24 joule, is because of the larger caliber/diameter ammo.
@@runerebel8441 understood :D so hdr50 with the valve removed and using devastator ammo(the metal ball with red plastic casing 4grams) will shoot at cc 20j?
On the HDR68 in 7,5 joule all you need to do is remove the valveblock. The 16 joule is maxed out allreaddy (I guess). The HDR50 in 11 joule has a valveblock, and that can be removed like I have done on mine. The HDR50 in 7,5 joule needs the Powerkit50 from www.homedefence-24.com to get max power.
If you drill the gas restrictor to 1 or 1,2 mm you can increase the power to 30 joules for the HDR 68 16 joules version but you'll get 3 shots at around 30 joules and 2 below 10 joules for one CO2.
@@Roman-bg8zb Thats abouth the same as my 7,5 joule HDR68 with the valveblock removed. Only 3 max power shots and two weaker shots, and then no more CO2. The max I got from it was 31,4 joule with Grimburg HP68 slugs...
U really don’t need to tighten 5he screw your hand is enough, just tight, and this is the weak one I think mine is grey with 16j first shots r actually 24j. It’s very loud. Don’t know why yours is black when it’s the wrong one. Maybe it’s different in different countries. The 68 is of course tougher, the just have more resistance, they should not penetrate if possible just hit with a lot of force and it has more mass.
I tryed to use my hands only, but since I have artritis I dont have the strength in my fingers I couldnt get it tight enough. I didnt film this. I think the collor is diffrent from conutry to country. The HDR68 packs more punch (energy) but dont penetrate as well as the HDR50 (in cardboard).
hello dear friend. I would like to ask a doubt when you do the penetration tests against cardboard, how far is the weapon from the target more or less? thanks
This is so cool man, these look like real working steampunk-styled revolvers.
Thanks man. Yes they are very cool revolvers 😃👍
Great test! 5cm of thick cardboard is impressive. I can’t believe the 50 cal went a little deeper than the 68!. Very interesting! Thank you as always from Miami
Thank you my friend. Both revolvers hit hard. The 50 gets deeper because it has a smaller diameter ammo. It would go even deeper (ca 7 cm) if I use the heavy 86 grn slugs. Greetings from Norway 😃👍
Another good video! Hey Rune, here some tests results that I had for one Co2 canister:
Hdr .68 16J but with gas restrictor hole drilled to 1 mm
Hdr .50 11J but with valve block removed and gas restrictor hole drilled to 1 mm
Hdr .68 got around 380 FPS with 6 gram balls, 3 very powerful shots, the last 2 very weak and that was it, also the penetration depth was so and so
Hdr .50 got over 500 FPS with 2.6 gram hot glue slugs, 6-8 very powerful shots, up to 12 shots it was stock power and that was it. The penetration was double and the bang it did was comparable to a firearm. I would say too loud!
I think I prefer the HDR .50 because of a better CO2 autonomy vs power ratio, penetration and speed better than HDR .68.
I would say HDR.50 will produce more intense pain than HDR .68.
Thank you my friend. Very nice power you got from both markers. Yes the sound from the HDR50 is more than the HDR68. The 50 will have better penetrating power since it has less dimaeter. I bet it would hurt more to be shot with the 50 to, plus the risk of ammo penetrating skin etc.. 🤔
@@runerebel8441 yup, I would avoid shooting at someone with hot glue slugs as they have the 8mm steel ball that can penetrate at around 26 - 30 joules...I would use hard rubber balls instead
@@Roman-bg8zb Sounds like a good idea 👍
An interesting take. I have been trying to find some kind of comment about these two comparisons for a while since im trying to decide to get one or the other.... (without modding) or i might mod them and get all the attachments for them. but cool, i was also thinking the .50 as well
Interesting test - with black powder revolver in 44 cal it will go through 7cm of wood but it has like at least 10 times more of kinetic energy (like 300+ joules), still it is a lot of fun shooting those paintball markers, especially that you can do it at home😁
Thank you. Yes blackpowder is a nother storry. I have shot a lot with both rifles and handguns in my younger years, and they are great fun indeed. These days its only paintball markers, but they are fun also 😁👍
As for penetration I've only tested some target 9mm ammo once at 50m going straight thru 2" pine wood. I did not try any thicker and nothing unique with that, but I wasn't absolutely sure it would go thru with my knowledge at the time.
However, penetration tests are always interesting. I got to test my HDP 50 at cardboard outside at 20m when the spring comes. Great video!
Now I wait for the barrel and the trommel from hdf.24. I have tuned my HDR 50, and it will be a bit more expensive hobby now. 12 good shoots from one capsule. I also have a Red/Green dot sight and a laser. on it. Easy to get hooked on toys for big boys.🤠
Yes they are great "toys" for adults 👍. Looking foreward to hear how you like the HD-24 barrel and alu-cylinder. They work great in my powertuned 7,5 joule version. Good luck and happy shooting 👌👍
@@runerebel8441 I got the trommel late this evening. Looking good, but must wait to test it. Cant wake up the neighbors at this time.
@@arnehusby1420 Great news. Let me know how it goes. It should rise the velocity a little bit and it dont wiggle like the plastic cylinders do. 🙂👍
My new 11 Joule version HDR50 outperforms claims by a wide margin. After shooting 6 rounds through to test aiming point, I tried a chrono test. Using 130 gr. steel balls, I saw a high of 507 fps for 74.22 fpe or 100.63 Joules ! This is without ANY modifications. It eats through CO2 quickly, only about 12 rds before steep drop off in velocity, but because I intend to use it strictly as a home defense weapon, this isn't a concern. Imaging a perp getting hit with a steel ball at 545 MPH !
Wow 😳. Never seen a HDR50 with that kind of power before😳
Are you sure? Perhaps it is a chronograph error. I bought a cheap chronograph on Amazon and I'm not sure of the readings. Actually the cheapest chronograph on Amazon had reliable readings but I bought a different one that was much bigger. And I'm not sure about the bigger one that was somewhat more expensive, but was the cheapest one of its type.
@@earthenscience Yes, without barrel extension, HDR50 is unlikely to achieve such power. With 22" barrel extension and 1100 psi HPA, it can hit 100 joules.
@@coldspring22 i gave it a 12" inch barrel and no valve block or restrictor, only got 14 joules.
@@earthenscience Seems strange. I have TR50 (7.5 Joule version USA), I took out valve block and it has no restrictor. I hooked up to 850psi HPA tank and it was outputting far greater power than my TR68 (7.5 Joule version USA). Sound was incredibly loud and while unmodified TR68 on CO2 went through maybe one or two cardboard, HDR50 on HPA went through everything and hit metal back stop.
You cannot compare both of them, as cal 50 are smaller so easier to go deeper than cal 68.
Great Review and testing. I am interested with the bigger 68 Caliber because it carries bigger pepper balls in case of emergency. The only thing that stopping me from getting it is that it has only 5 shot magazine. I have no experience yet with that kind of circular magazine, do you think i can put those circular magazine loaded in my pocket without losing the ammo in my pocket when i move around ? I always watch your videos, keep up the good work.
Thank you my friend. Iam very glad you like my videos. In the USA it is sold with 4 spare cylinder/magazines, so you can carry them loaded in your pocket. Its very quick to change cylinders. Extra cylinders can be bought seperatly. They even sell a Umarex hard plastic holster for this model. Take care and stay safe my friend 😃
Thanks Rune.Good to see.
Thanks Bruce. Iam glad you like the video 😃👍
I don't want to get hit with either one! Lol interesting test Rune, thank you!
Thanks my friend 😃👍
God video,jeg tænkte netop på at teste min nyt indkøbte HDR50 på noget pap,du gjorde arbejdet for mig,jeg venter på min nye HDR68 nu. Tak fra Knud fra danmark...
Mange takk Knud. Hyggelig at du liker videoen. Lykke til med flotte revolvere. Hilsen fra Rune i Norge 😃👍
Great data😎👍
68 calibre will slap more whereas 50
calibre will sting more🤣😎👍
Fun...😎👍
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Thanks brother 😎👍
As i found out in many test .and iam shooting much higher fps 40joul s hdr and same 68 fsc.hdr pentrates more.great test rune
Thank you my friend 😃
Great to see. Cheers Rune.
Pax
Thanks my friend 😃
Question: if somebody broke into your house, what would your preferred ammunition for the Umarex be?
Hmm. For the HDR68 I guess Z-Ram slugs or Grimburg HP68. For the HDR50 I guess homemade 86 grn slugs cast with the Ammo6 slugmaker form HD-24 🤔
Awesome shooting test bro!
Thanks bro 😃
@@runerebel8441 welcome bro
If both tuned up Im guessing the 68 is better for self defence because of the higher mass of the bullet. But how much you think is the difference?
Will the 68 hurt a lot more than the 50?
Im hesitating in buing the hdr 68 because of it's very big size?
Is the Any cheap alternatives in caliber .68?
I Like the pistols better than the revolvers. So looking at the hdp 50
Any recomendations in what i should get?
Hi. If you like pistols more than revolvers then buy the HDP50. If you remove the valveblock you will get 20+ joules from it. I think that is enough power. The HDR68 is my favorite of all the markers, but I dont carry it around. The HDR68 give ca 30 joule if you remove the valve block. But its a large marker and can be a pain to drag around because of the size. So I recommend the HDP50. Use aluminium balls for max effect. Good luck
@@runerebel8441 mange tak for svar 🙏
@@runerebel8441 mange tak for svar 🙏
I tried shooting myself from a distance of 5 meters on my left and right legs and the result was that the 17mm had a larger bruise area than the 12.7....HDR 68 just made my pain area bigger but the lethality made no difference.
Yes. The HDR68 gives a larger bruise because of the larger size ammo. But I guess the pain will be about the same 🤔
How many joules are your guns? I can buckle metal and my slugs will get stuck if I shoot a tree so I would assume something worse would happen if a person get shot. Either way, interesting
The HDR50 is an 11 joule version that has been removed the valveblock on. So it gives ca 18 joule depending on ammo. The HDR68 is a 16 joule but it gives ca 25+ joule.@@estebalstigopopoluz
Hi,Hdr 68 have 5 shots keep 30J+,in 12g co2,is it possible？
Hi. The first few shots will be 30+ joule and then it drops fast. It depends on the ammo and temperature plus how fast you shoot.
hello scuse my english , what is the better stock hdr50 or hdr 68?
Hello my friend. I think the HDR68 is the best 😃👍
@@runerebel8441 HI,Why 68 Good than 50?
@@anthonychen9163 Just my choise. I like it better. It never jams and is easy to powertune
@@runerebel8441 THX,Is it easy to dismantle for beginners?
The Stoping Power Is it about total kinetic energy or J/Cm2 ?
@@anthonychen9163 Hi. Yes its quite easy. Check out my video ruclips.net/video/L9_I4o5-xvI/видео.html I messure in foot pounds and joule.
so the HDR50 with the valveblock removed is around 16j? and penetrated deeper than the HDR68 16j (but you read 24j when shot).
The HDR50 I have in this video will give ca 16 joule with the 1,06 gram rubberballs. The reason it penetrated better than the HDR68 wich gave ca 24 joule, is because of the larger caliber/diameter ammo.
@@runerebel8441 understood :D so hdr50 with the valve removed and using devastator ammo(the metal ball with red plastic casing 4grams) will shoot at cc 20j?
@@AlifieAbsinTh Yes, thats correct 😃👍
Sorry,ask again，for home defensive，the stopping power,68 or 50 is a good choose？
Both is OK, but the HDR68 is best as I see it
@@runerebel8441 Thx Your reply&Thank you for sharing
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Thanks 😃
i który mocniejszy?
HDR68 has the most energy
Can they both be modded in the same.way
On the HDR68 in 7,5 joule all you need to do is remove the valveblock. The 16 joule is maxed out allreaddy (I guess). The HDR50 in 11 joule has a valveblock, and that can be removed like I have done on mine. The HDR50 in 7,5 joule needs the Powerkit50 from www.homedefence-24.com to get max power.
If you drill the gas restrictor to 1 or 1,2 mm you can increase the power to 30 joules for the HDR 68 16 joules version but you'll get 3 shots at around 30 joules and 2 below 10 joules for one CO2.
@@Roman-bg8zb Thats abouth the same as my 7,5 joule HDR68 with the valveblock removed. Only 3 max power shots and two weaker shots, and then no more CO2. The max I got from it was 31,4 joule with Grimburg HP68 slugs...
that is powerful wouldnt want that on the head or face
Yes they hit quite hard :)
U really don’t need to tighten 5he screw your hand is enough, just tight, and this is the weak one I think mine is grey with 16j first shots r actually 24j. It’s very loud. Don’t know why yours is black when it’s the wrong one. Maybe it’s different in different countries. The 68 is of course tougher, the just have more resistance, they should not penetrate if possible just hit with a lot of force and it has more mass.
I tryed to use my hands only, but since I have artritis I dont have the strength in my fingers I couldnt get it tight enough. I didnt film this. I think the collor is diffrent from conutry to country. The HDR68 packs more punch (energy) but dont penetrate as well as the HDR50 (in cardboard).
How loud is the 68 compared to the 50? I bet your neighbours love you😂
Hehehe 😄. Yes my neighbours just love me LOL🤣. The HDR68 is not as loud as the HDR50, but it still makes a lot of noise 😉
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Tell me please how many shots have 6 and how many shots have 11 joules version ?? The hdr 50
So i can be sure what version i have 😅
Hi. The 7,5 joule version will give ca 35 shots, and the 11 joule version ca 18 shots pr CO2. 😃
@@runerebel8441 OK thanks
hello dear friend. I would like to ask a doubt when you do the penetration tests against cardboard, how far is the weapon from the target more or less? thanks
Hello my friend. It is ca 1 meter away from the muzzle 😃