As a kid of 8-10 years old---65-75 lbs., my dad let me work the levers while he held the belt alignment. He had the same "splicer machine" as in this video. I felt like I had squeezed the world back together! I would thank my dad daily for all of his knowledge if I still had him. You're a great teacher in your videos, keep up the good work--showing us history of the past! ....13
I may never have to do this kind of work, but it was interesting to see how it was done. Thanks for taking the time to keep history alive (or relevant).
As a youngster I had to give a hand, mostly at holding the excess of the belt which was rolled up for ease of handling, quite heavy as it had to reach between the tractor and machine. If my Dad had just half the patience you have in explaining what he was doing on the business end of the belt, it would have saved me getting many a warm ear! Thanks Lyle, quite a few years too late for me but as always, another great video. You are indeed an interesting man to listen to! Kind regards.
Love the video, I was in charge of making all the belts in my machine shop class in high school from '66-'68.We had 25 lathes and 18 required belts,and i loved it . Thanks Lyle
I just bought myself a big roll of six inch belt and a box of hooks at a garage sale for ten bucks. Now I have to fabricate a belt wheel on my old log splitter and I can put that old '41 Farmall to work splitting wood instead of my back! Thanks for the tutorial.
I love how old equipment is engineered and built to last. Who hasn't used a closes hanger for something other than hanging closes. Well done on the clipper splice. Very entertaining.
Greetings! from Grand Rapids MI. apparently where all this clipper equipment was made. Wish we still made all this cool stuff nowadays. Love the channel. Thanks for all the great videos!
I just love watching your videos. I do it for hours at a time lol. Like most on here, I have never seen one of those used. I have, however, had the displeasure of using the vice mounted version many times. When I bought my own, I decided it was well worth the extra few hundred to get the roller type speedy lacer.
This is really neat... I would have thought that the two sides of the belt would have been spliced together using the same clips. It was interesting to see that both sides were clipped and the pin put through at the end. Thanks for sharing!
Appreciate you making the sacrifice of a good lacing to show us how it’s done. I’m close to ordering two belts for a B/S # 0 plain mill. I’ll probably just use what I’m sent but it’s good to see how it’s done.
Lovely piece of equipment, I could picture someone fixing a belt in the field, on sun-baked ground, probably holding the belt in place on it with their knee instead of those clamps. A nice example of simple mechanisms making a task easier too.
I worked in a water powered woodworking shop, with miles "or not" of leather belts driving the equipment. Never saw the lacers being used, but the owner did, and I'm not 100 years old either. Just slightly younger than dirt. Not many of us left. Regards, Solomon
I have done hundreds of round baler belts with the vise mounted clipper and the machine you have is much easier looking, I like to cut the corners in on the trailing edge so there's less chance of them catching. Thanks for the interesting video.
I have probaly rolled a few thousand bales of hay in my life and i hate those type of connections although needed. my biggest gripe is in a round bailer the bale weigh so much that about every 300 bales you are supposed to replace the connecting pins cause if you forget the groves get so deep that it can take hours to get out the broken bits of pin so that you can get he new one in .. Great video Mr Pete just griping out loud
That's a clever ratcheting design, allowing for maximum mechanical leverage at each step. How did you make sure the belts would line up? Seems to me that would be the tricky part in the operation.
Working on machinery that uses laced flat belts much we put a full lace on one end of the belt and use one less lace clip on the other end. This will allow the lace to be centered on each end.
Good video. The only comment I would offer is that when we used to join the belts we used the safety type of clips and it was necessary to ensure that the safety strip was on the inside part of the belt. Quite why I don't know but it always made the belt click as it ran over a pulley which produce a regular rhythm when the machine was running.
Very cool! We have some Bunn folding machines and a matt roller at the laundry where I work, and they use similar belts for advancing the mats, linens, etc... I was recently wondering how these belts were made, though I'm sure they a more modern powered version of that machine now days. The tool we use to pull the belts together for pinning is kind of neat too... kind of like a pair of vise grips, but with a clamp for each jaw, to hold the ends of the belts, then pull them together.
Never knew how this was done. Thanks, Mr. Pete. The town we moved to when I was going into junior high had an old machine shop just sitting there abandoned. Once run by a German family, the machines were powered by an overhead line shaft. Very unusual in our non-industrial region. This makes me want to drive down and take a look...wonder if it's all still there.
We had a belt lacer exactly like this at the farm. However, it fell into disuse after newer types of belt-lacing became the norm. Nowadays, most belts are pre-crimped, and the wire is nylon-coated to reduce wear and hold it in place more effectively.
This to me is the unsung hero of the industrial revolution. Without belts, what use were the steam engines if you couldn't transfer all thst power to the various individual machines across the factory floor
Back in the late 1980's, I worked at Blue Diamond Almonds, Sacramento, Calif...many belts from 2" up to 24"...they had a Clipper crimper that was 36" wide, and pneumatic powered....Probably cost a fortune to replace. End of belts are usually retained by a plastic covered steel wire...never use a solid piece of 3/32" TIG steel filler wire...it will break into many pieces and be very hard to remove.
Very interesting Pete I really do like watching your videos. And it's very entertaining. Do like the history and information you have in those old books. I to love the raw hide leather belts than what they sell now days. I think the modern belts on a vintage lathe really doesn't do the lathe any justice. My pulleys are V belts so going to try and see if they could possibly be made in maybe a raw hide V belt. But chances are pretty slim I guess.
The lacing pin is held in place by the tension placed on the belt. After the pin is in place the lacings will impress grooves into the pin which make the pin difficult to remove.
Hi there, what kind of a glue mix some use to soak the belt when they prep it to prevent it for fraying? they usually use it on bakery or non rubbery belts, thank you.
I'd never seen one of these before but saw this video (ruclips.net/video/zFa4Hfs81kE/видео.html) and had to google what one was for. This brought up your demonstration. Maybe you could do a restoration of yours too.
As a kid of 8-10 years old---65-75 lbs., my dad let me work the levers while he held the belt alignment. He had the same "splicer machine" as in this video. I felt like I had squeezed the world back together! I would thank my dad daily for all of his knowledge if I still had him. You're a great teacher in your videos, keep up the good work--showing us history of the past!
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hay mr pete a hundred years from now your videos will be priceless
Thanks for watching
If you ask me they are priceless now!
I may never have to do this kind of work, but it was interesting to see how it was done. Thanks for taking the time to keep history alive (or relevant).
As a youngster I had to give a hand, mostly at holding the excess of the belt which was rolled up for ease of handling, quite heavy as it had to reach between the tractor and machine. If my Dad had just half the patience you have in explaining what he was doing on the business end of the belt, it would have saved me getting many a warm ear! Thanks Lyle, quite a few years too late for me but as always, another great video. You are indeed an interesting man to listen to! Kind regards.
Love the video, I was in charge of making all the belts in my machine shop class in high school from '66-'68.We had 25 lathes and 18 required belts,and i loved it . Thanks Lyle
I've seen these belts and always wondered. Thanks for the great video. Keep em coming!
Love the fact that much more surface is used in stead of the V belts... nice work.... thanks for showing it!
Thanks for the demonstration. I remember helping cut firewood as a kid with a belt driven buzzsaw. I think Mrs. Pete is missing her sewing siscorr lol
I just bought myself a big roll of six inch belt and a box of hooks at a garage sale for ten bucks. Now I have to fabricate a belt wheel on my old log splitter and I can put that old '41 Farmall to work splitting wood instead of my back! Thanks for the tutorial.
That was a buy
Interesting, as always. I've never seen this done. Thanks
Thanks for watching
I love how old equipment is engineered and built to last. Who hasn't used a closes hanger for something other than hanging closes. Well done on the clipper splice. Very entertaining.
Greetings! from Grand Rapids MI. apparently where all this clipper equipment was made. Wish we still made all this cool stuff nowadays. Love the channel. Thanks for all the great videos!
Thank you for the video love the older way to do things. entertaining as usual .
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I found this very interesting and enjoyed it immensely. Thanks Mr. Pete
I just love watching your videos. I do it for hours at a time lol. Like most on here, I have never seen one of those used. I have, however, had the displeasure of using the vice mounted version many times. When I bought my own, I decided it was well worth the extra few hundred to get the roller type speedy lacer.
Thanks for watching
This is really neat... I would have thought that the two sides of the belt would have been spliced together using the same clips. It was interesting to see that both sides were clipped and the pin put through at the end. Thanks for sharing!
GREAT VIDEO !!!
I HAVEN'T MADE A BELT FOR 14 YEARS .
Appreciate you making the sacrifice of a good lacing to show us how it’s done. I’m close to ordering two belts for a B/S # 0 plain mill. I’ll probably just use what I’m sent but it’s good to see how it’s done.
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Lovely piece of equipment, I could picture someone fixing a belt in the field, on sun-baked ground, probably holding the belt in place on it with their knee instead of those clamps. A nice example of simple mechanisms making a task easier too.
I don't know that I'll ever lace a belt in my life, but this was nonetheless fascinating. Thank you!
I worked in a water powered woodworking shop, with miles "or not" of leather belts driving the equipment. Never saw the lacers being used, but the owner did, and I'm not 100 years old either. Just slightly younger than dirt. Not many of us left. Regards, Solomon
I remember those from "BEN'S MILL".
I have done hundreds of round baler belts with the vise mounted clipper and the machine you have is much easier looking, I like to cut the corners in on the trailing edge so there's less chance of them catching. Thanks for the interesting video.
Good one Mr. Pete.
I enjoyed both sir..
I have probaly rolled a few thousand bales of hay in my life and i hate those type of connections although needed. my biggest gripe is in a round bailer the bale weigh so much that about every 300 bales you are supposed to replace the connecting pins cause if you forget the groves get so deep that it can take hours to get out the broken bits of pin so that you can get he new one in .. Great video Mr Pete just griping out loud
That's a clever ratcheting design, allowing for maximum mechanical leverage at each step. How did you make sure the belts would line up? Seems to me that would be the tricky part in the operation.
Working on machinery that uses laced flat belts much we put a full lace on one end of the belt and use one less lace clip on the other end. This will allow the lace to be centered on each end.
Good video. The only comment I would offer is that when we used to join the belts we used the safety type of clips and it was necessary to ensure that the safety strip was on the inside part of the belt. Quite why I don't know but it always made the belt click as it ran over a pulley which produce a regular rhythm when the machine was running.
Thanks for watching
Very cool! We have some Bunn folding machines and a matt roller at the laundry where I work, and they use similar belts for advancing the mats, linens, etc... I was recently wondering how these belts were made, though I'm sure they a more modern powered version of that machine now days.
The tool we use to pull the belts together for pinning is kind of neat too... kind of like a pair of vise grips, but with a clamp for each jaw, to hold the ends of the belts, then pull them together.
Never knew how this was done. Thanks, Mr. Pete. The town we moved to when I was going into junior high had an old machine shop just sitting there abandoned. Once run by a German family, the machines were powered by an overhead line shaft. Very unusual in our non-industrial region. This makes me want to drive down and take a look...wonder if it's all still there.
Probably long ago bulldozed--sadly.
We had a belt lacer exactly like this at the farm. However, it fell into disuse after newer types of belt-lacing became the norm. Nowadays, most belts are pre-crimped, and the wire is nylon-coated to reduce wear and hold it in place more effectively.
I found one in my house. I didn't quite know what it was or what it was for. Now I do. Thanks!
Thanks
Great instructional video as always. Thanks.
This to me is the unsung hero of the industrial revolution. Without belts, what use were the steam engines if you couldn't transfer all thst power to the various individual machines across the factory floor
What keeps the pin in place? Watching your videos is like listening to an old friend over a cup of coffee, thank you
being pulled tight causes it to get little dents/grooves. watch pt1 to hear him explain it better than i will.
that old file handle looked pretty good
Back in the late 1980's, I worked at Blue Diamond Almonds, Sacramento, Calif...many belts from 2" up to 24"...they had a Clipper crimper that was 36" wide, and pneumatic powered....Probably cost a fortune to replace. End of belts are usually retained by a plastic covered steel wire...never use a solid piece of 3/32" TIG steel filler wire...it will break into many pieces and be very hard to remove.
On mine I taped over the joint with insulation tape. This works well as it runs silent and the joint does not wear.
Nice!! Much easier than the vise type.
Very interesting Pete I really do like watching your videos. And it's very entertaining. Do like the history and information you have in those old books. I to love the raw hide leather belts than what they sell now days. I think the modern belts on a vintage lathe really doesn't do the lathe any justice. My pulleys are V belts so going to try and see if they could possibly be made in maybe a raw hide V belt. But chances are pretty slim I guess.
Thanks Mark--I like leather belts too--hard to get anymore.
These are great videos!
The lacing pin is held in place by the tension placed on the belt. After the pin is in place the lacings will impress grooves into the pin which make the pin difficult to remove.
most have groves on pins,some bend ends of pins so they will not come out
Very Good!! Thank You, Have a Great Day!
Thank you for watching
82 70 pinspotter. Couldn't find any videos on how to replace the distributor belt. None the less, this is what I gotta do, and we have the tools too
Would you please addressing determining the belt length and the amount of tension desirable on the belt and how to obtain this tension.
I just got done watching a guy do a full restoration on one of these. Had no clue what it was he's four so I had to come over here and see
Thanks
Did they make a manual for this machine? If so, where could you get one?
Hi there, what kind of a glue mix some use to soak the belt when they prep it to prevent it for fraying? they usually use it on bakery or non rubbery belts, thank you.
Thanks, this video helped me a lot!!!
As a farm boy we had one of these that would handle up to 8" belts, ended up in the scrap heap due to dis-use.
Thanks for sharing sir.....
Nice work.
THANK YOU...for sharing.
Awesone. Thank you very much
I need one for my 9" lathe mr. Pete.
Do you have any information on how to splice a endless drive belt?
Mine has the spring between the handles for handle return
better than a piece of old railway track and a hammer
it's used in ag. a lot still today when you see big round bails in the field think of this.
Yes
@@mrpete222 i knew you knew that teacher that was for the viewers benefit lol
reminds me of a book binder.
excellent video -- thank you!! whatever happened to "the joker"?
Much enjoyed. Ted
I'd love to get a dozen feet of that kind of belt material
It would make a good 2017 championship belt.
it looks like that angry old lady from Robots xD
What holds the rawhide pin in?
The belt tension.
Wonder how much force that cat gut can withstand
Where i can buy this m/c
Thanks.
ime not saying that they aren't priceless now
it's used in ag. a lot still today when you see big round bails in the field think of this.
Pete did your grandson Jordan discover girls? Don't see him in your videos anymore. Tell him hello.
thanks!
caution TO STAY AWAY FROM RUNNING BELTS, ONE ACCIDENT THE BELT CAUGHT A TEENAGE GIRL'S DRESS AND SHE WAS KILLED WHEN LOADING HAY UP INTO A BARN.
Awful
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Three people do not like mechanical advantage...
Asswipes.Pure n simple...lol
Thats because they are morons
I'd never seen one of these before but saw this video (ruclips.net/video/zFa4Hfs81kE/видео.html) and had to google what one was for. This brought up your demonstration. Maybe you could do a restoration of yours too.
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More choices for belt hooks www.feltbelt.com &www.feltbelteast.com
Thanks
It's just ''gut'', not cat gut.