DIY Acoustic Panels (How-to)
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2021
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In the world of building a home studio on a budget, DIY acoustic panels are high on the list. So when Bryce asked if I could make some for his small drum room I knew I had to jump on it since this was actually the first time Ive built any! More importantly, we wanted to see/document the actual difference they make in a room. His room has wood paneling so idk how he survived without any treatment before!
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How Well Do DIY Acoustic Panels Work? Small Drum Room Makeover 
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No more drumming in a cave! The panels cost 13 exposures to make 😉
In a cave!!! With a box of scraps!!!
Honestly not a bad deal. It's a lot more exposure than I've ever had actually sent my way.
But caves are so fun sometimes too!
how much did it cost David?
😂😂😂
I'm a big fan of the rythmic editing. Definitely fits with a drum channel
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Welcome to rdavidr
Haha I loved that too
True. Leaving a gap between the panel and the wall helps. Otherwise the frame could transmit sound into the wall if it was directly mounted. Well built panels too.
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How big should the gap be?
@@Bruh-bx9mh Putting a gap between panel and substrate is called F or E mounting, and has to do with increasing measured absorption through creating a plate effect, not preventing transmission of sound. No gap is referred to as A mounting. The sound will transmit through the wall whether there is a panel on it or not. You can block transmission through either a resilient mount or sufficiently thick wall. If you're not interested in cracking open a wall and reinstalling the drywall on an isomax clip or RC3 then you're stuck with the direct transmission. Reducing the RT60 can help but does not eliminate the problem.
@@Bruh-bx9mh The rule of thumb is your gap should be half the thickness of your panel. A 4" thick panel would need a 2" gap, 6" thick = 3" gap, etc. But honestly any amount of gap is better than no gap. Even 1x2 across the back will work.
No. The gap is so the sound passes through the panel hits the walls and tries to pass through again. I heard someone describe it as panels being “twice as thick”. Which is pretty close to accurate.
It’s crazy how much of a difference the panels make in the sound… goes from sounding like a cement basement to a professional studio
Where did you get a nail gun that keeps perfect time?👍👍
At the gig he replaced me at 😒
Sounds much better! Great work
Thanks bro!
My band mates and I were just talking about doing this to our practice spot. Once again you have inspired me, thank you
It’s criminal that you still haven’t hit 250k
For every “like” this video gets, David gets one step closer to the headlining spot on the illustrious RUclips algorithm stage.
Still gotta take a cut from your merch table sales though. But hey! I got a lukewarm, half-eaten, Little Caesar’s hot-n-ready for you back in kitchen!
Welcome to the show-business, kiddo!
David, your channel is one of the best here in RUclips. Incredibly good content, videos so well made and very useful stuff! Thank you!
Thanks! 😬
That last part was hilarious! But I actually preferred the untreated sound for the drums. Guitar, bass and vocals would ROCK in that room!
I’ve been building my own panels for years, slight variation on how you do it.
My favorite part of making sound panels?
Going to Goodwill and finding the fabric in whatever funky pattern catches my eye.✌🏻
Love the editing, well done man
Whats good is that you made them removeable so that you can experiment with reverb i feel the room is a little dry but hey to each his own
This man gets it! I’m a lover of having options, and the fact that in literally 2 minutes I can completely transform the sound of the room is incredible.
For recording I think it should be completely deadened though. It gives you the most control over the sound in the production process.
@Jordan Blue for vocals yes for drums no once you start layering music they can stand out ton much some air is good....you can always add gates
@@marcosaruca5283 Nah. It’s way better to have it deadened even for drums. Of course you can experiment if you want a raw room sound but as a producer for over ten years, I’d rather have a solid recording with no room reflection at all. It gives me full control over how I want the drums to sound.
@@marcosaruca5283 once you put that slight reverb “in” the drum tracks. You have just limited and “decided” how much reverb is going to be on the drums. You can’t go heavy with a big room reverb now. Because those early reflections in your room mics will un-objectively sound horrible. Once they are also reverberated. Same reason guitarist need to turn off amp reverb for any real recording efforts. Sure it sounds ok now. Cuz we can’t even hear it. But once I put the big solo reverb on you. It’s gonna sound like garbage.
Wow, I’m going to overhaul all the treatment in my room, make these, and then put them up instead. These look so nice and uniform and work so well.
Huge difference - I built some very similar panels - rockwool is the stuff. Nice job as always
Awesome! These DIY videos are really cool too 🙂
Thats a pretty incredible difference. They look really nice too
Those panels look really nice, props my dude
the sound came out great !
Holy shit that sounds way better at the end, well done!
Gotta say…love your table saw set up…that’s all.
amazing! the best video where explain it clearly... thanks :)
One of the best echo killers I've found is a book shelf filled with books of different sizes. Works great, is multi purpose and prbly doesn't cost as much as a professional acoustic panel (especially, if you own a ton of books, anyway).
That's also what makes a library one of the best places to play your drums 😉
Perfect timing! Thank you:)
yep. that’s where im goin. thx for this concise informative video
Nice job Dave!
Great Job! I am doing same thing for media room, but just 48 x 24 so insulation fits prefect
Big improvement. Adding a cloud would make it even better.
Sounds great 💯
sound is vastly improved and those panels are sexy as hell!
Yo david! Love the content! Your tips have saved my ass more times than I can count
Same here, especially the snare strap hack!
Thanks dudes! 🤘
Nice kit 🎸
Back in the day we stapled carpet padding to the walls. This looks much nicer.
Sick 80’s drums at the beginning lmao
Nice rhythm touch with the nail gun!
The Rockwool dims of the insulation could have been used to eliminate a lot of the cutting to determine the size of the panels before making them. For instance, the standard for the home depot product is 15.25in by 47in so you could easily make the sections interior dims so it would fit this better. Like 30.5 by 47 would be two pieces side by side. Or cutting them in half would give you 23.5 in by 15.25 which doubled would be 30.5 or trippled or quadrupled to eliminate a lot of small piece cutting.
I wonder what the effort difference would be between cutting all the wood to make this shape vs not cutting the insulation down?
Another great video. Z clips. Got to get some.
That ending really hits you in the feelz lmao 😂👍
0:55 re: saw fuzz, zero clearance insert takes care of that very nicely.
very cool! might have to make something similar with my father
I built panels like this and used a manual stapler, and my wrists/hands were so sore after making 20 + panels. Good call on not doing that. lol
RIP haha
Awesome!
Liked for the on beat nailgun licks
another great build by raouf industries
I dont have a real kit anymore. But I just had an idea of getting bass drum screws and using them on reso tom heads so the rim and head just hang with a small gap between them and the shell. Wondering how it would sound, and you're the guy who trys everything drums.
Sounds super controlled! But I wanna know how he mounted his spd there.
That ending! Lol
Great schtuff!
Q - What cymbals did he use? Loved the sound!
Haha the ending!
I was expecting a $15 gift card there or something at the end 🤣
The red panels with the wood paneling, real old church vibes
Take two of those panels off of the walls and mount them on the ceiling over the drums, and you can have a little more liveliness back in the room.... and get rid of the comb filtering that I can still hear.
Last line of video 😂😂😂👍
6-7 pcf fiberglass boards, Guilford FR701-2100 fabric, and Super77 make for a much faster build, and offer more Sabins of absorption per cubic inch than low density insulation like rockwool or fiberglass batt insulation. Finding rigid FG can be tough if you don't know a distributor, but any drywall/ACT distributor should be able to get it for you. Might cost more but it saves time and space!
I feel bad for all the Bryce’s watching this video while dozing off to sleep to be woken up in cold sweat when this guys said “teleport to Bryce’s house.” Couldn’t be me.
The beats in 6:03 and 6:45 somehow matches I'm in Love with My Car by Queen (until he uses the hi-hats)
Auralex is shitting right now. "OMG... they just made 15 acoustic panels for what we charge for one." LOL
Exposure, my favorite currency
hmm just wondering, where did you place the overhead mic,
FYI, this use of weed barrier is FAR better than its intended use as it hardly stops weeds at all.
Can we get a materials list? Like where do you buy the insulation panels?
there's a snake in your workshop at 1:03 at the blue thingy
Impressive acting skills!
4:57 How did you make the spacers blink here?
Now you can remove the dampening for nice and bright reverb re-amping/ recording.....
No dampening on the ceiling? those cymbals still can overpower the total sound.
Having a ceiling fan is both a blessing and curse for a room this small haha. Convincing the landlords to allow me to do this project alone was a huge achievement haha.
@@yetixcoreRVA ahaaa! got it hahahaha
Would it make a difference putting panels above the drummer on the ceiling?
Yes! Drop them down a few inches off the ceiling or make bigger panels to trap the most sound
Bro, you have a badass shop. Do you you make cabinets for a living?
The snare sounds better without the panels, but I like how the toms sound with them.
dead is dead.
I know the difference between sound insulation vs sound deadening, and these are for insulation. What I want to know is how much of a deadening or lowering of the volume occurred once these were installed? None, a little, moderate?
If you pull them an inch or two off of the wall, you'll get an even more noticeable improvement!
Dude, is it possible to make a pumpkin snare drum? That would be a very interesting video 🎃
I tried it once
"Can I pay you in exposure?" Oh the pain!
Drumming in a cave sounds badass
What do you suggest for mounting these in a rented apartment/house kind of deal? Guessing command strips wouldn't do the job lol
Actually, if you use aluminum framing instead of that heavy plywood, and can keep the panel weight under 14lbs, command strips can work! I have several 10lb GIK Acoustic panels hung with command strips.
I hung a bunch of things at our rental. When we were moving out I just went through and filled in all my holes with some DAP. They had to repaint anyway, so we got our full deposit back.
If you want to minimize holes, you could use a picture hanging wire kit, which will hang the panel on one screw. Just make sure it’s in a stud or it will eventually rip out.
Or for even less damage, you can build some legs for it to stand on the ground.
imagine having a friend like rdavidr, that you can call locally for stuff like this lol..
crazy
Nice work. If you didn't want to buy the Z clips you could have made french cleats out of scrap wood, not hating just saying. Instead of that weed barrier, I was wondering about using Dynamat on the back? Extra deadening.
Very true! I was too lazy to make the cleats tbh lol.
video idea: drumset, all field cymbals
Great video, I’m a drummer and wood worker. You’ve inspired me to make some acoustic panels . Thanks
Dave makes me feel not as manly as i thought I was
Good lord those hi-hats are massive! What are they, 18 inch?
Those are 16’s actually! They sound so killer!
Is putting accoustic panel also reducing the sound coming out from that room??
Me I’d say not likely. Soundproofing is quite different than acoustic treatment I’ve learned.
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That nail gun lined up with the drums (very nice by the way) makes me wonder what a nail gun on drums would sound like? Am I a sadist 😅
Sweet! Rockwool is great. The frames are nice but you can definitely just mount rockwool panels wrapped in fabric to your walls!
It won't look quite as nice but it's a lot less effort! Especially when rockwool itself is quite cheap
@@Merlincat007 I glued mine to some pegboard and wrapped in fabric so it would have some rigidity and they've been great for a couple years now. even survived moving with no issues.
@@travisnof Good idea! I might be making another set soon and this could be helpful
It's honeslty too much dampening and sounds dead to me. It almost chokes the drums. The reason is that instead of treating the reflections you only treated the high frequencies and now the lower ones are to dominant, you took away the natural sound of the drum. My advice is to use less absorption and more diffusion, so you have a few reflexions. The panels should be thicker, around 20cm so that they absorb every frequency not just the high ones.
I mean, you got not much to work with since the drums of your friend are already very muffled, but everyone how they like it
For sure! For the time being hes using it more as a practice space, so really he just wanted to clean up the sound. Plus if we made them super thick I dont think the drums would even fit in there lol. We def plan to add some bass traps in the future though. Thanks for the info tho 👍
That's what mixing and mastering is for. You can always add room reverb and other texture things later, but you can't take it away.
@@rdavidr yeah, it def sounds more controlled now tho :)
@@slonth yup.
What’s the cost of all this? I need some of these boys
Hey my brother interruppted me in the middle of watching role-plays to ask you to give him your snare idk what it is if no good because he broke his last one LOL 😆😆
this is a link i will actually click. if i ever start going to live shows again, this will likely be in my breast pocket.
I want your friend to get nice curtains or something for that room. The wood paneling is GORGEOUS (and the red of the acoustic panels looks great in there too), and the cheap plastic Venetian blinds mess with the otherwise excellent aesthetic.
That’s your unsolicited advice from an opinionated shut-in dork for the day.
Can this soundproof CONCRETE walls, since my house isn't wooden?
Yes, absolutely, however they don't soundproof. Soundproofing keeps noise IN the room from escaping OUT of the room. This is just acoustic treatment, which keeps sound in the room from bouncing all over the place and adding unwanted reverb and buildup of low frequencies.
@@senatortroutwould acoustic treatment prevent my neighbors from complaining?
@ it would lower the noise a bit by controlling it but you want soundproofing not sound treating
How come no pannels on the ceiling.
Bryce looks like the beats he's making.
That ride sounds amazing what is it?
22” meinl dual. Linked in the description!
Heard my name on this video thought I’d see what I was up to 😜
rdavidr is the seth bike hacks of the drum world
Do you make house calls?
Now do the 9inch clouds
I don't like rockwool. I'm a jazz drummer but can't find any jazzwool anywhere tho :'(
Really youtube added unskipable 15 sec adds?