So cool. As I an engineer, I completely get this and the enthusiasm of the tour guide. New Hoyt fan right here!! Jordan, you are so fortunate to be part of something like this, having an experienced and successful dad is a great opportunity to learn...use it well. 🙂
Thanks Takur. I was an engineer many years ago. There last president Randy Walk actually offered me an engineering job there back in the early 90s when he was the engineering manager. I sure thought about it. Have a great day.
As a Mathews Bow owner 🤣, i really enjoyed seeing this and the true, american made craftsmanship that goes into these. Bows are expensive toys, but you can watch this and understand the quality, craftsmanship, and costs that go into them. Cool video.
There is a lot of work and craftsmanship that goes into each bow. More than you might think. They have six full time engineers. Three in the plant and three in the research and development area.
Very eye opening Bill. Helped me understand why bows are so expensive. I love that most of it is done in house here in the USA. Hoyt rocks. Love my Carbon Spyder Turbo!!
For the risers they are just using CNC machines in booths to carve them out of the aluminum ingots we saw. Then the shavings are collected and probably recycled off-site-so the process isn't really as wasteful as it seems. It could be said that at the core of this entire manufacturing process is the quality of the software running Hoyt's CNC machines-and the changes or capabilities of the operating system being used are what's behind each new bow series. Some of the systems that Hoyt are using are indeed proprietary or "in-house" designs that they don't want details to spill on-although it still isn't difficult to imagine the broad capabilities of anything in the factory as much of it is carried over from aerospace/automotive engineering. I have a hunch that Hoyt's recalcitrance of divulging details on its manufacturing techniques are not out of any fear of brand-competitors like Mathews or Bear. They likely have stuff which is just as good. It's a factor in my own line of work-but US manufacturers at all levels are concerned about corporate espionage-mainly from foreign competitors-discovering their manufacturing techniques and manufacturing products of the same quality but at lower prices. What it looks like sets Hoyt apart from its US competitors are A. manufacture of some target bows out of straight aluminum ingots and B. Higher ratio of human labour and manpower to automation than say Mathews.
I would guess that what you are saying is all true except they do protect their processes. It isn't the technologies they use that they protect, but the way they use those technologies to produce slightly better or slightly more efficiently made products. Thanks for the post and for taking a very careful look at the video. Have a great day.
Yes, the higher volume models do. The castings are expensive to start with because of the mold but they really cut down on aluminum cost and machine time when they don't have to remove as much. The lower volume bows (like their target models) are not cast (too expensive for the low volume). They are machined from a solid billet (square cross section) of aluminum.
That was fun, I wish I was the guy who invented the Camo dipping process. Amazing technology right there. True story, before moving to Iowa I visited Lancaster Archery in Lancaster PA, my go to bow store. Shot both the Matthews VX3 and the RX5. For me, no comparison. LOVE the RX5 and yes, expensive but worth every penny. I’ve never shot a better bow. Period. Thanks for the tour you guys (and girls). Enjoy the rest of your trip and get back safely for late season!
It is a really cool technology. I remember when that first came out in the late 80s/early 90s. There were only a few places in the country where you could get stuff dipped and you had to send your parts there. Man, that technology has come a long ways since then. Hard to beat those RX bows. I am really liking the RX7 Ultra I have been shooting. Good luck and Merry Christmas.
They make excellent bows. I’m curious as to if they wear respirators when dealing with fiberglass or carbon. I’ve noticed the rise of pulmonary fibrosis in plants that sand and cut these materials.
Yes, strings are made in-house. He wouldn't let me film the string machines because they have a unique way of making them that Jeremy says is more accurate for length than others are using.
I don't think they make the carbon risers in that plant. They are pretty closed-mouthed about how and where they make them. I am sure they don't want to give away any secrets.
Thomas, a lot of the fine points were proprietary. They didn't want to show the world exactly how they make the parts and unfortunately, the shift was over for the day by the time Jordan and I got there so there weren't any people in the assembly area.
So cool. As I an engineer, I completely get this and the enthusiasm of the tour guide. New Hoyt fan right here!! Jordan, you are so fortunate to be part of something like this, having an experienced and successful dad is a great opportunity to learn...use it well. 🙂
Thanks Takur. I was an engineer many years ago. There last president Randy Walk actually offered me an engineering job there back in the early 90s when he was the engineering manager. I sure thought about it. Have a great day.
Love seeing this Bill! Not everything is made overseas, wish we had more companies like Hoyt!
Agreed. Thanks for the support Underdog.
Just another great episode Thanks Bill and Jordan
Thanks for the support Shane. I hope you are doing well.
Great content and a valuable marketing tool for hoyt. Makes me want to buy another hoyt. Not currently shooting one but have in the past.
Thanks Mike. They do make great bows. Not much margin for error in that factory!
That was fun to watch at the hoyt plant! Great bows!
Thanks. Yes, we had a blast there. Have a great day.
Completely cemented my decision to buy Hoyt when I decide to get a good bow. Awesome facility too.
It is very impressive and how they spend so much time making each bow perfectly is impressive too.
As a Mathews Bow owner 🤣, i really enjoyed seeing this and the true, american made craftsmanship that goes into these. Bows are expensive toys, but you can watch this and understand the quality, craftsmanship, and costs that go into them. Cool video.
There is a lot of work and craftsmanship that goes into each bow. More than you might think. They have six full time engineers. Three in the plant and three in the research and development area.
Great video Team Winke!
Thanks Amos. Much appreciated. Have a great day.
Great video. Looking forward to future ones. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Michael. I appreciate it. Have a Merry Christmas.
Very eye opening Bill. Helped me understand why bows are so expensive. I love that most of it is done in house here in the USA. Hoyt rocks. Love my Carbon Spyder Turbo!!
That is a great bow Tony. Thanks for the support.
For the risers they are just using CNC machines in booths to carve them out of the aluminum ingots we saw. Then the shavings are collected and probably recycled off-site-so the process isn't really as wasteful as it seems. It could be said that at the core of this entire manufacturing process is the quality of the software running Hoyt's CNC machines-and the changes or capabilities of the operating system being used are what's behind each new bow series. Some of the systems that Hoyt are using are indeed proprietary or "in-house" designs that they don't want details to spill on-although it still isn't difficult to imagine the broad capabilities of anything in the factory as much of it is carried over from aerospace/automotive engineering.
I have a hunch that Hoyt's recalcitrance of divulging details on its manufacturing techniques are not out of any fear of brand-competitors like Mathews or Bear. They likely have stuff which is just as good. It's a factor in my own line of work-but US manufacturers at all levels are concerned about corporate espionage-mainly from foreign competitors-discovering their manufacturing techniques and manufacturing products of the same quality but at lower prices.
What it looks like sets Hoyt apart from its US competitors are A. manufacture of some target bows out of straight aluminum ingots and B. Higher ratio of human labour and manpower to automation than say Mathews.
I would guess that what you are saying is all true except they do protect their processes. It isn't the technologies they use that they protect, but the way they use those technologies to produce slightly better or slightly more efficiently made products. Thanks for the post and for taking a very careful look at the video. Have a great day.
Interesting. So a “machined” riser may start out as a cast, then machined down?
Yes, the higher volume models do. The castings are expensive to start with because of the mold but they really cut down on aluminum cost and machine time when they don't have to remove as much. The lower volume bows (like their target models) are not cast (too expensive for the low volume). They are machined from a solid billet (square cross section) of aluminum.
Very cool, nice to see where my Ventum 30 was built.
Thanks Mitchell. Hope you are doing well.
That was fun, I wish I was the guy who invented the Camo dipping process. Amazing technology right there. True story, before moving to Iowa I visited Lancaster Archery in Lancaster PA, my go to bow store. Shot both the Matthews VX3 and the RX5. For me, no comparison. LOVE the RX5 and yes, expensive but worth every penny. I’ve never shot a better bow. Period. Thanks for the tour you guys (and girls). Enjoy the rest of your trip and get back safely for late season!
I’m an engineer in the automotive industry, and it’s the same process we now use for a lot of interior surface finish. Just not often camouflaged 😂
It is a really cool technology. I remember when that first came out in the late 80s/early 90s. There were only a few places in the country where you could get stuff dipped and you had to send your parts there. Man, that technology has come a long ways since then. Hard to beat those RX bows. I am really liking the RX7 Ultra I have been shooting. Good luck and Merry Christmas.
They make excellent bows. I’m curious as to if they wear respirators when dealing with fiberglass or carbon. I’ve noticed the rise of pulmonary fibrosis in plants that sand and cut these materials.
Jay, they do. I noticed that in all the sanding and painting areas. Have a great day.
awesome video!
Thanks for the comment and support. Have a great day.
The machining of the risers and cams are incredible! Is Hoyt making there own strings or out sourcing?
The tour guide was describing the string machine, so it sounds like the strings are made in-house.
Yes, strings are made in-house. He wouldn't let me film the string machines because they have a unique way of making them that Jeremy says is more accurate for length than others are using.
Wow. Great content here
Thanks for the support. Have a Merry Christmas.
Nice vid Winkes!
Thanks Sean. It was a fun visit. Merry Christmas.
@@bill-winke Same to you all!
would love to see how they make the carbon bows
I don't think they make the carbon risers in that plant. They are pretty closed-mouthed about how and where they make them. I am sure they don't want to give away any secrets.
Unfortunately the carbon risers are not American made
like the intro jordan,
Impressive operation
It really is impressive. Something like 200 employees!
Just remember!!!!!
Dream BIG!!
Jezzzz
😂😂😂
I haven't been putting that in the Setup series, but I will start if you insist! Thanks for the support.
Looked like Bill was a kid in a candy store. Haha
Hard not to smile in a place like that!
6061 billet?..forged cnc process very expensive..very stiff riser.
Good point and thanks for the input.
Are they hiring? Utah's got to be better than Illinois?#FJB
They probably are. Seems like everyone is!
Nice
Thanks for the comment Jarrod.
First! Boom
Appreciate the support. Have a Merry Christmas.
Not really a good tour if you can’t really see anything being made.
Thomas, a lot of the fine points were proprietary. They didn't want to show the world exactly how they make the parts and unfortunately, the shift was over for the day by the time Jordan and I got there so there weren't any people in the assembly area.