TESTING KHATRAH(Increasing the shooting velocity)
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2021
- TESTING KHATRAH
(Increasing the shooting velocity)
It seems that the most controversial aspect connected with khatrah is about the possibility of increasing (or not) the arrow speed by using this technique.
By using this method, many archers has claimed already an obvious increase of the arrow velocity (at different rates, depending on the archer's skill, the bow poundage, drawing length, weight of the arrow, etc).
This is a clear confirmation of the statements found in the medieval Middle East archery treatises about the khatrah technique:
"WE CAN TESTIFY FROM EXPERIENCE THAT THIS MOVEMENT INCREASES BOTH CAST AND RANGE in the same way as a rider driving a horse can bear witness to an extra burst of speed when he gives his mount a lash in full career". (Grandmaster archer Ashrafi Taybugha,14th century, Saracen Archery, p. 68)
Nevertheless, some archers, (clearly less convinced by the efficiency of this shooting method), are not connecting the evident increase of velocity ("apparent" for them), with the "forward punch", but rather with some "side effects" of it:
-1. The existence of an fast and short "overdrawing" as the result of the "forward punch" immediately before release (which increases the energy stored in the bow).
-2. A sharper, dynamic "snatched" release which are making more efficient the power transfer from the string to the arrow (by reducing the side deviation-oscillation of the string at release).
-3. Increasing the efficiency of shooting based on the changes of the natural properties of the materials from which the bow was made: viscoelasticity, "memory effect", the stress relaxation of polymer materials under constant strain, etc...
Because of that, the same bow become more efficient in case of performing one continuous and fast motion of drawing-release than when is hold at maximum draw for aiming.
-4. Controlling the initial arrow oscillation by taking partially the bow out of the path of the arrow (when is running on the right side of the bow).
The lessen oscillation is making indeed the arrow to go faster at some degree. The energy that would be wasted in the elastic deformation of the shaft (because of the contact pressure against the right side of the bow), is used for the forward move of the arrow.
-etc. (the list is open, you can add more...)
I'm very much aware about all the side effects of the khatrah technique, and very thankful for all the amazing archers (Murat Özveri, Roland Csáki, etc...), who were searching and test them.
Still, (in my opinion), a well done "forward punch" (the pushing-thrusting of the bow forward at release), can bring more extra velocity than all the other beneficial secondary effects together.
By using a specific "whipping fist" motion (explained in the previous post), is possible to increase the speed of the arrow with more than 15fps (depending on the archer's skill, the bow poundage, drawing length, weight of the arrow, etc).
In this short video is suggested an easy way for testing khatrah: a simple wooden handle (shaped as a real bow grip), with a nonelastic string attached to it.
Since all the side effects are eliminated, is possible to see with approximation the amount of velocity which can be obtained by using just the "forward punch".
Is possible to throw in this way the arrows to a short distance (about 15m in my case), and even have them "hitting" a very close target.
Indeed, this doesn't seems impressive by itself, anyway, something more than 15fps.
But considered as an amount of extra speed when shooting a real bow...yes, it makes a huge difference!
If you can do it with this very simple device, it means that indeed is possible to increase the arrow velocity directly by using khatrah and not just because some side effects of it (i on my opinion, of course).
As a mounted archer, I'm using light bows (34-37#/28") and relative short draw (27"), in order to reach and maintain the highest possible rate of fire.
But in this way (without using khatrah) my arrows are quite slow (170-175fps), limiting the accuracy for longer distances and the shooting range as well.
Using a heavier bow (45-50#/28"), I can obtain indeed a much better arrow velocity (about 190fps at the same drawing length), which aloud me to be more accurate by aiming directly to the target, and cover a greater distance.
But a heavy bow will slow down the rhythm of shooting (or eventually will make me uncomfortable and tired after just 100-150 shots).
A I believe that khatrah is the best solution for this problem: keeping a high shooting accuracy, arrow speed, and a high rate of fire in the same time...
(video, Katariina Cozmei) 
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It is Simple and to the point.. very well explained.. Thank you sir..
Hello sir, i bein tryin your shooting method, the art of throwing the arrow, khatra, circular, whirling, punching method & all that stuff that you are teaching. At first i dont understand, but i keep observe, learn & train from your channel, & now i understand your technique, the khatra, the punching, the whirling circular method, it makes a lot of sense to me now. I be able to stick the arrow at the foam target with a maybe 10% draw at 4/5 meter shooting distance, sometimes i feel like i dont draw at all, feels like i just push/throw the arrow with my bow using khatra & punching method.
All this happened because of your masterpiece technique 🙏🙏 thank you so much sir, keep posting about your style, your method, your thoughts, i will be always support , watch & learn from you.
Excellent exercise Master Mihai, thankyou
That's a freakin' good point, and an even more creative way to prove it! Nice one!
Bruhhhhhh the best way explaining it. The absolute best. Are you a engineer by chance, because you break this down in such a mathematical manner. Like seriously way to go. I’m going to have to use this in video in the future and show many people who say that this styles doesn’t add arrow speed. People always say blah blah blah, but don’t have any other points except for what they are told.
Once people actually use what you say to do in the right way it works amazingly well. See I use a Korean bow (that has 230 feet per second without this method) and when I use your method my arrow doesn’t drop at 50+ yards. With a heavier tip.
People need to do a scientific research on what you do and how you do it. Because when I do it like you say to do it, it works miracles. Thank you so much for sharing your techniques with us. I believe your style will eventually take over traditional Archery (especially for hunting)
you are a genius mr Cozmei
When I watched his other videos simply demonstrating the technique by shooting I already understood what effect his style/form does to the flight of arrow and I very much liked it. Since then I've been practicing to obtain this technique. Thank you for the detailed explanation of such outstanding skill and being an excellent teacher.
Woa, Woah, WOAH, this is messing with my brain. I'm a longbow archer and this has just changed everything. How dare you sir! lol! Well done.
That's very interesting. Quite an observation
Great demonstration! In my opinion, there is additional benefits to a non static release because of the spring of the bow. Seems I loose a lot of speed holding before release vs expanding release. It feels so natural to fling it, a little bit like you do, not the same, less force and speed put into the flinging for me...
I would also consider the time the arrow is in contact with the string after release, because it is of course much longer with this device. I belive that you are showing real usable technique, but it is important to mention that the effect of the Khatrah will be smaller using real bow, because of the shorter time window you have to transfer the force from the whip to the arrow. What do you think about that? Love your videos!
Very nice demonstration. Simple and true and logical. The summeration of speed was prooved allready by Bruce Lee one Inch punch. If mind and matter take a marriage sometimes a new child is born and even mysticle things can happen wben somebody comes Into the Zone..
Impressive!
I’m curious, what is Mihais poundage of bow generally?
Khatra always seemed a bit hocus pocus, but this absolutely proves it to me. I may make one of these just to practice!