Why we build our cedar fences with steel fence posts! | A better cedar privacy fence

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
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    There are a lot of reasons we build our cedar privacy fences with steel fence posts! We're out to build the strongest, most durable, and longest-lasting fence we can. In this video we break down the advantages of using steel fence posts and rough-cut cedar to produce a better cedar privacy fence.

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  • @1stFlyingeagle
    @1stFlyingeagle 3 года назад +2

    I used a link and jumped to this vid. Well done great info. Would like to see the 2x4 being sized and installed. Then see finished product.

  • @gerardobello7015
    @gerardobello7015 3 месяца назад

    Is there a better option for cedar? Do you have a video explaining how the select the best wood ?

  • @c-qc-q2021
    @c-qc-q2021 9 месяцев назад

    I'm going to give Postmaster posts a try. What's the best way to cut them to length after setting them, portable band saw, reciprocating saw, circular saw, angle grinder, ? ?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  9 месяцев назад

      We use a portable band saw and we love it.

    • @c-qc-q2021
      @c-qc-q2021 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@SWiFenceThanks. Maybe I can rent one.

  • @CornPopMillerJr
    @CornPopMillerJr 3 месяца назад

    I'm thinking about putting up some fence at my place near Medicine Bow. I have no doubt that these posts flex instead of snapping at the base in high winds. My only concern would be the metal fatigue at the base, after the fence flexes in the wind constantly over a 5-10 year span. What do you guys think? Do you suppose it would take more like 50 years of flexing in the wind to break due to metal fatigue?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 месяца назад +1

      No, I'm not worried about the flexing fatigue at all.

  • @richard-kx3fl
    @richard-kx3fl Месяц назад

    Thank you for the video. Do you know if the postmaster poles can be driven into black clay soil? If so, how deep should you go for a 6-foot fence?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  Месяц назад

      Yes, I'm sure they can, although you are the ultimate judge of your conditions.
      ruclips.net/video/mc92svvCRFo/видео.html

  • @heycoreytoo
    @heycoreytoo 3 месяца назад

    Question: is it necessary to set the posts in cement or can you pile drive it in (like a 9' down to 6')?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 месяца назад

      You can do either. ruclips.net/video/cLvM7ijI9zE/видео.html

  • @Grandpa_RLP
    @Grandpa_RLP 2 года назад +1

    I am replacing an 8 ft privacy fence and looking at using these post. Will 10 ft post be long enough and strong enough? By the looks of it I will get 30 inches into the ground. Is that deep enough to go without concrete or should I concrete for an 8 ft privacy?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  2 года назад +2

      You're going to want to plan on putting them in concrete--also narrow up your spacing to 6' instead of 8' for the added wind load. 👍🏻

  • @deesroll
    @deesroll 2 года назад +7

    How do you justify a over 100% markup selling the post master posts on your website? Lowes sells for $35, you sell for $85.

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  2 года назад +1

      If you're local Lowes sells them for $35 that's a steal and you should go buy up as many as you can. They're sure not selling them for that price on their website. Especially with delivery.

    • @KLondike5
      @KLondike5 Год назад +5

      No way. 2 months since that post & I see them for $68 at Home Depot. Lowe's lists Lifetime brand posts in the $30s. Those are a little different but much cheaper.

    • @celestegrey9309
      @celestegrey9309 Год назад +3

      I justify buying these posts because in a few years the wood posts will be rotted and the fence leaning- so I’ll take the post master all day long. 💥

    • @Self_Empowered444
      @Self_Empowered444 5 месяцев назад

      Everyone loves capitalism until they don’t 😂

    • @GARRY3754
      @GARRY3754 2 месяца назад

      @@Self_Empowered444Good point. It always will exist even on small scale. Like some village in China where backroom deals are made.

  • @dennisspeck2617
    @dennisspeck2617 3 месяца назад

    If using these metal posts, do you know if anyone uses these posts to set up a mailbox?

  • @powers6963
    @powers6963 Год назад

    Great looking fence. I'm about to use some one my fence build. Question - which stainless screws do you use for the rails?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  Год назад +1

      These: www.swifence.com/8-x-1-5-8-stainless-screw-lb.html?id=6495937

  • @ChrisSmith-bt1cv
    @ChrisSmith-bt1cv Год назад

    Do you ship to New England? I'm curious how these would work in our soil conditions. My fence line is near a tree line. I think the post master would be better to drive these posts and to the tree roots, am I thinking correctly?
    Frost lines, everything I've read says to drive these 2' into the soil for a 6' fence. However, the frost line here in CT is 42" would these things drive just as easily to that depth?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  Год назад

      You're always going to want to go below frost line. And yes, they'll drive that deep--depending on your soil. Give the guys in the shop a call and you can bounce some questions off of them. 👍🏻 (307) 578-8040

  • @tym5583
    @tym5583 3 года назад +3

    Sweet video. How far diameter and how deep for the concrete?

  • @andresmaldonado7356
    @andresmaldonado7356 Год назад

    How do you make a driveway gate with this style? I keep looking in your videos but don’t see yet

  • @karlywyrick1599
    @karlywyrick1599 3 года назад +1

    You said you would have to set the posts deeper when driving them into the ground. Does that mean for a 6 foot privacy fence you would need a post longer than 8 feet?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад +1

      3’ is our minimum drive depth here but that can vary depending on soil. We have a heavy clay and posts hold well at 36”. if you have boggy or sandy ground you may need 4K to get solid.

  • @JLittleBass
    @JLittleBass 4 месяца назад

    I'm really enjoying this comedy duo :D

  • @mattd9162
    @mattd9162 2 года назад

    Been running a fence line with Postmasters 7'6 and have a dip on the grade so I was looking for a few 9' Postmasters but neither Lowes or Home Depot has them. Any good workarounds or know where I can get the 9 footers? Thank you!

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  2 года назад +1

      I was going to point you to www.swifence.com but we're out of stock too...

  • @ericaperalta2185
    @ericaperalta2185 Год назад

    I wish I had a handyman!

  • @noahdevine915
    @noahdevine915 3 года назад

    Another great video awesome to see one of your crew leaders

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад

      You’ll see more of him coming up soon!

  • @stich1960
    @stich1960 Год назад

    I'm kind of confused You mentioned the stainless fasteners but how are you keeping the postmaster isolated? I know and cases like that I've used window tape before and it works good enough. You didn't mention it and then last time mistaken I think it would have the same reaction unless there's something special with their galvanized process

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  Год назад

      We don't isolate the Postmasters and don't have issues.

  • @rogerbettencourt9654
    @rogerbettencourt9654 3 года назад +2

    Feel the Burn 🔥, Love the content and what you guys are doing for the industry. You guys are almost as good as Joe Everest, almost. Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work, on both channels.👍

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад +1

      Who can be as good as Joe Everest? 😁 Thanks for the compliment!

    • @rogerbettencourt9654
      @rogerbettencourt9654 3 года назад

      @@SWiFence , I know Right?! I may be able to steal his color, but I will never steal his thunder! You guys are great 👍

    • @maliquewilliams86
      @maliquewilliams86 2 года назад

      I think they are BETTER!!😃

  • @victoryocom3962
    @victoryocom3962 3 года назад

    I came across this video about postmaster posts and started researching but I can’t find any Information regarding using these posts for fences where the panels are at angles greater than 90 degrees. Any advice on how to make these work?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад +1

      Simply line up the face with the edge of the last line as you turn the corner and cut the 2x4 at an angel if needed. We typically attach the 2x4 to the back of the post where making a turn by screwing into the end grain of the perpendicular fence post.

    • @th8033
      @th8033 2 года назад

      ​@@SWiFence I was wondering the same thing here. I understand cutting the 2x4 that tie into the corner but how do you address the clip? Seem like a portion of the clip would be hanging off. Also can you further explain why you would put a 2x4 on the back of the post where making the turn instead of 1x6?

  • @ChristianGutierrez
    @ChristianGutierrez 3 года назад

    I am sold, but what is the price comparison of postmaster and round poles?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад +1

      Well that’s a little tough to pin down at the moment with pricing so volatile. Pipe is usually cheaper to buy but costs more in labor and other parts. Over all its best to use the purpose built product whenever possible.

    • @tabcobra
      @tabcobra 3 года назад +2

      Quite a bit more than using 2 3/8” and Simpson brackets.

  • @eljugado
    @eljugado 3 года назад

    Are postmaster post better that lifetime brand steel posts?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад

      I hear the Lifetime Steel posts are a little thinner. I can't say that for sure because I've never used them--we've just always used PostMaster and been happy.

  • @johnroberts2104
    @johnroberts2104 3 года назад

    How do you make a corner post? Is it the same post rotated or a special post?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад

      Corners are easy! We set the post in line with one direction and align it so the 2x4 going the other direction can line up on the other side of the “c” on the post if that makes sense

    • @nunyabisnis1448
      @nunyabisnis1448 3 года назад

      @@SWiFence wheat do I get these post in my area and how would you use your product if I was to build a fence with the boards running horizonal would you run the two by 4's vertically or use 3/4 in 8'planks with s.s. screws 3/4 long and or rap the post as to hide it ??

  • @xJI00
    @xJI00 2 года назад

    Don’t stainless steel and galvanised steel corrode when used together ?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  2 года назад +1

      I wouldn't use them together in a saltwater environment, but we've never seen any corrosion pairing them in our fences.

    • @Paul-lv4kd
      @Paul-lv4kd 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, they do and it's called galvonic corrosion...it happens with any water. Using high quality (304 or 316) stainless screws will limit corrosion but your best bet is to use hot dipped galvanized screws.

  • @garyvanleeuwen9535
    @garyvanleeuwen9535 3 года назад

    How would you add gates in your fence with these posts?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад +1

      We have some videos on this if you check out our channel.

  • @rubbersole79
    @rubbersole79 Год назад

    Why not use treated rails and cedar pickets?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  Год назад

      We think cedar is a better-performing and better-looking option.

  • @brents927
    @brents927 2 года назад

    What is the cost per foot for the customer?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  2 года назад

      Uh-oh Brent! You asked the question which shall not be spoken! ruclips.net/video/VgZXYRlXw_Q/видео.html

  • @bazatron13
    @bazatron13 3 года назад

    Can you put pickets on both sides of rail ?

  • @johnsrabe
    @johnsrabe 2 года назад

    Love the dialectic.

  • @robertcopeland9298
    @robertcopeland9298 2 года назад

    I only have access to 8' postmaster fence posts locally and my locality in Ohio wants 38" holes dug for the fence posts. If I can only get 8' posts, what's the best way to float the post above 14" of concrete so that I have 72" of post above the ground for the 6' high fence?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  2 года назад

      Great question. You'll want to make sure your concrete is mixed thick enough to support the weight of the posts while you're setting the height.
      You can ignore the eye-sighting part of this video if you're using string, but you can see the concrete stabbing method here: ruclips.net/video/elMyil_o_gU/видео.html

    • @velox03
      @velox03 Год назад

      I also could only get 8' posts. My solution was to extend the 2x2" wood which is attached to the post above the post height. I was able to go 1-2ft higher which gave me 10' post.

  • @ermalundy2988
    @ermalundy2988 3 года назад

    do you have these posts available in Ontario Canada

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад

      Sorry but not at this time.

    • @miltondavies259
      @miltondavies259 Год назад

      They are available at Lowes in Canada now $49.99

  • @NicholasRachuna
    @NicholasRachuna 11 месяцев назад

    The fact that you specify "the only difference is the point of failure " failure of set posts being at the top of the footing vs driven posts being just below grade proves that the set post is stronger. The lower failure point means it would require less wind force seeing as the fence will have more leverage on that point being further down the fulcrum.

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  11 месяцев назад

      Lucky for you we tested this.
      ruclips.net/video/_iQnheVwAI4/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/8jWcT17PFME/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/_rZr1xtjy0Q/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/Ocr73Lmo9O8/видео.html

  • @thomasolson49
    @thomasolson49 2 года назад

    No finished fence shot?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  2 года назад

      Hmmm, I guess not in that one. We'll keep that in mind!

  • @gretchenjustice1903
    @gretchenjustice1903 3 года назад

    Any locations in heartland KY?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад

      Unfortunately not. ☹

  • @ChiefCasebolt
    @ChiefCasebolt 3 года назад

    Do you install in Alabama

  • @Alyosha00
    @Alyosha00 3 года назад

    80 bucks a piece... ouch! You sure you didn't make these posts out out of titanium?
    Jokes aside, with this price, my whole cedar fence budget doubles. I understand there may be some r&d costs and such, but this price point is way off. Are you making any money by selling only a handful of these?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад

      These are the only posts we use when installing cedar simply because we don't have time for the headache of getting called back for problems. Steel has always been more than lumber, but unfortunately with all the insanity of the last few years the materials market has gone absolutely crazy. Supply shortages are a regular problem and prices have skyrocketed. At the end of last month raw steel was up 75% from what it was April of last year. 75%! That's nuts! Prices are so crazy right now that if you get a quote and then wait 6 months to decide, you can't be surprised if your price is a good 15-30% higher than the original quote.

  • @keshlopez8598
    @keshlopez8598 8 месяцев назад

    How to make a concrete edge

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  8 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/p/PLqL1XE-47CfgJghKUdKv5YZORVBwrtrqA

  • @95691edith
    @95691edith Год назад

    Wow 😮

  • @ericworkman1562
    @ericworkman1562 3 года назад

    It may hold up in 90 mph wind but the posts are only rated up to 75.

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад

      The other variable is the height of fence. The taller the fence the less wind they will withstand. When building tall fences or fences in high wind areas with no break, I would recommend shortening the post spacing. In some severe cases it may be a good idea to seek an engineer's opinion.

  • @Casmige
    @Casmige 9 месяцев назад

    If you close your eyes & listen?, I swear to Gawd you sound like the Hank “pro-pane” Hill of cedar fence building 😂

  • @israelrodriguez2402
    @israelrodriguez2402 6 месяцев назад

    That's funny; my wooden post still holds firm after 15 years. This 5-year rotting post is bogus, unless you installed the wrong wood or wood from home depot or Lowes

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  6 месяцев назад

      I think soil condition and region of the US are also going to be critical factors here.

  • @Pineapple-mi3wj
    @Pineapple-mi3wj Год назад

    What do the L look like for this post?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  Год назад +1

      Er... I feel like I'm missing something obvious I should know. The "L"?

  • @lauretiu
    @lauretiu 4 месяца назад

    i mean the posts are cool and all but compared to a 4x4 and the concrete this is expensive. yes it has tons of benefits but it's still 2x 3x more expensive than a 4x4 and the concrete needed

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  4 месяца назад

      For sure. 👍🏻

  • @jimmyjunk2337
    @jimmyjunk2337 Год назад

    The problem is the cost for these post. We already have a very hard time on material costs for our customers. When you give a wood fence quote just the wood fence 4x4 which are about 15 dollars along with the 8ft wide panels are about 77 dollars. So your talking about 100 plus concrete about 115 dollars total. If you use these post masters which I really would rather that 115 price jumps up to 200. That would be fine if we were talking about a few sections but that extra amount per section adds up. I don't see the value here and justification. Customers are not going to pay that difference unless your dealing with a customer with some money. The over all customer these days is looking for the lowest cost possible

    • @bluearcherx
      @bluearcherx Год назад

      and they'll be putting in a new fence in 15 years. cheaper to do this once.. those galvanized posts will last 100 years in the ground.

    • @jimmyjunk2337
      @jimmyjunk2337 Год назад

      @@bluearcherx I agree but people are having a hard time paying for the fence materials and labor so adding 20% more is a tuff thing to do. On clients that can afford to great use the metal

  • @mojammer
    @mojammer Год назад

    Are they brothers

  • @mlhm5
    @mlhm5 Год назад

    No kick boards!!!

  • @hmtrimworks7148
    @hmtrimworks7148 3 года назад

    Ahhh... $60 per post... a little pricey to say the least.

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад

      The materials market is a little crazy right now.

  • @cristinagonzalez7147
    @cristinagonzalez7147 2 года назад

    B

  • @johannes6760
    @johannes6760 3 года назад

    Too bad those flanges aren’t wider

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад +1

      They are now on the V2

    • @jeffreykarl2865
      @jeffreykarl2865 2 года назад

      I completely agree about flanges

  • @jayb.8460
    @jayb.8460 3 года назад

    Think it would have been best to just let the guy with black hat do the whole video himself.... and why not put a kick plate so they see absolutely no steel instead of the bottom 3 inches?

    • @SWiFence
      @SWiFence  3 года назад

      Landscaping usually covers up the rest. Kick plates (allow called rot boards) simply are not used here like they are in wet climates.

  • @cvzphotography
    @cvzphotography 7 месяцев назад

    If only they didnt cost $75 a piece.

  • @gooners08
    @gooners08 2 года назад

    @JoeEverest