How can Ukraine use its new tanks against Russia?
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2023
- Russia is on the attack as Vladimir Putin pours soldiers into areas like Bakhmut in a bid to take the rest of the Donbas, but Leopard, Challenger and Abrams main battle tanks are on their way to the battlefield to face Moscow’s T72s, as Kyiv prepares for a major counteroffensive - but are these modern tanks enough to win the war and how will they change Ukraine’s tactics?
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Some experts say they are a “game-changer” but others believe they’re not a “wonder weapon”.
Instead, they signal the West’s commitment to Ukraine and they open the door for even more advanced weapons in the future like F-16 fighter jets and longer range precision missiles like ATACMS.
We look at the capability of the new armour compared to Russia’s main battle tank and how Ukraine could use them to repel Putin’s latest offensive.
Produced by: Jack Parkes, Calum Fraser, Kieron Bryan and Ian Watkins
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*Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦 from Japan.* 🇯🇵
i wish ukraine get is lesson,glory to russia,you will win that war,il love my russia.
Hello, I am from Ukraine and I want to thank all nations and people who help Ukraine, for their help in the fight against the Russian invaders. Together we will stop the Russian killers. This aggression should be an example for future dictators, murderers and terrorists.
thank you
in fact you will fail and surrender everything, like the last two or three factions the West supported. Look at recent history, everyone the US promised victory to ended up defeated and giving up every inch to their enemy
I am amazed at the weight of these tanks: 150K lbs or so: or 3 very large dump trucks. All in a small space. This gives me something to go on per these tanks.
Anything but metric 😂
Guys it dont matter what side you support, you know a handful of tanks ain't gonna change anything for either side
lets see and wait about that - Russian army is not as good as we all expected, they are weak and crooked, like Russia is after 20 years of dictator Putin- there will be more tests and we wish all the best to Ukraine . they defend their and our freedom in Ukraine - so lets see what difference those tanks make!
Actually it's hundreds and that's just round 1
@@hanskaesbohrer2809 That is an emotionally based comment
bit like a handful of HIMARS systems has had no impact at all, why do the Russian TV hosts seem so angry about the thought of Western tanks, you'd think they'd be excited about the opportunity to easily destroy more of the satanists hardware.
Arguably the Challenger 2 is very underrated. However, it's history on the battlefield is second to none. If I were to criticize it in any way, it would be that it is restricted in what ammunition it can fire, due to it having a rifled barrel as opposed to the smooth bore barrel that the other tanks use. Hence it cannot use standard NATO rounds.
can someone explain to me why M1 Abrams is "the best tank in the world" becouse i dont think so.
Well what else do you think is better than the abrams?
@@notneccessary8008Leclerc seem to me like more technologically advance tank (just my opinion i didnt study all tanks part to part)
I heard from US sources that the Abrams going to Ukraine will have legacy armour and not the top-tier stuff the US keeps for itself. Same might apply to the ammo (i.e., no depleted uranium armour-piercing rounds etc).
So in other words, Ukraine won't get the top-tier version that may indeed be "the best tank in the world". But whatever they get, it'll still be pretty good.
14 leopard tank are not going to make a difference
and 31 Abrams in at least six months
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Are you a Russian commander Ivan? Your more like a chocolate soldier than a real one.
@@billybonds4449 no he iz zelenskyz right hand they need more tanks
I apologise. Here in the UK the MOD are sending more tanks than the 14 they have promised. Other countries will be contributing more Leopard 2 tanks. Those Ukranian warriors will receive quite substantial numbers of tanks in weeks not months.
@@billybonds4449 wake up bill
The number of tanks matters a lot, just like the delivery time. Russian T-72 are many and works fine.
Pop top flame out junk
@@karmakazi101have u seen the leopards?😢
Considering how much is Ukraine infested with top attack anti-tank infantry missiles from the West, being T-72 crew is not a great prospect, not that Western tanks would fare better but Russia did not have top attack munition for its infantry and 90ties-early 2000 Western tanks can hold most of what Russians can throw on them frontally by infantry and prevalent modernized T-72.
So, if you are in a Russian modernized T-72 in Ukraine where anything including infantry can kill you from whatever angle while you are expected to fight also enemy tanks which late 90ties models like Challenger 2 you cannot reliably penetrate frontally, I say you are in the pretty bad tank.
The only saving grace for Russians in defensive positions that prevent them from ending like the Iraqis in First Gulf War is that Russians can use Ukraine's forests and infrastructure to attack from optimal angles where lack of penetration for frontal attacks against enemy tanks by most of their tanks and infantry won't matter, and the fact that neither side have true air dominance, thus Ukraine is a playground for various cost-efficient armed and surveillance drones guiding artillery that are the real game changer in this conflict, so having slightly better or worse tanks is not really a deciding factor...
Why is the abrams at the beginning going sideways?
Kornet anti tank weapon system will be tested
If the infantry, artillery and drone operators give them the opportunity.
The issue is going to be maintenance qt least on the Abrams. That thing is basically a jet engine with a tank strapped to it. Keeping them going without experienced engineers and a steady stream of replacement parts is going to be difficult.
Maintenance on the Abrams isn't that complicated. The supply chain for parts is.
@@kirbyr558 It is for people who haven't trained for jt. They will get a crash course on one of the most advanced tanks not the kind of training US military gets.
don't worry they will never get there
T-80 is quite similar to M1 it terms of drivetrain. Probably even more complicated as unlike M1 that recived a custom made turbine, T-80 turbine was taken straight from a helicopter.
There's a difference between a normal soilder in training and a Ukrainian soilder. Imagine how serious and focused they must be. They have so much more at stake than we can really imagine.
I thought they only get the Lepord I. Seem to me, tanks move so slow and sitting duck without air cover.
0:15 knows nothing about tank warfare . but that thing is very intimidating.
From watching a few war films best way to use tanks is to drive it towards enemy tank and point the tube thing at it and shout fire.. Kelly’s Heroes will give the chaps a good idea
Yes as drinking some wine and eating cheese (Donald Sutherland) in the midst of battle…..
WoW 😮 a ‘Game Changer’ …….again
2:36 he literally said it won't, at least watch the video to avoid looking ignorant
@@teddypicker8799 Russian bot. Paid by the post. No need to think, just flood the net with posts.
@@patwilson2546 This guy isn't a bot he's just cognitively limited. Probably been watching too much far right media
Just like the HIMARS
short answer: DO NOT throw it into a meatgrinder or minefield
any man that holds a weapon but no land
- is a pawn simp in a rich mans game.
The way almost every single news network just assumes all Leo 2’s and Abrams are the same is ridiculous - there are multiple sub variants, it’s like saying all Audi A4s are the same… there’s a lot of spec levels.
they will get the sub variant
I am sure with all the officers they have they are waiting for advice made by channel 4!
We need to get them the hundreds of tanks they need now. It can't be a slow trickle that will make no difference at all.
I hope the sight of all those wrecked leopard tanks and columns of Bradley Fighting Vehicles seen burning on the Ukrainian landscape in countless videos on the internet will be a source of constant embarrassment to those so-called "experts" and war mongers trying to prolong this conflict at the expanse of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian lives.
They can move it with some money... your money.. LOL
Could you guys hurry up and send it
Take them straight to the scrapheap.
Come on good country bring on those tank for Ukraine VIVA Ukrainian
The way to use the new tanks, good drivers, good navigators,, good engineer, good communication between the commanders, excellent tactics, strategy from the Ukrainian soldiers to operate the awesome tanks, thank you to all friends of the world 🌎.
At least 10,000 battles in World of Tanks game and then you are qualified.
@@calidude1114 Put your crayons away and go to bed your ignoramus.
Ukriane have proven themselves tactically, and shown some ingenious ways to maximise the effectiveness of their resources
Are you Ukrainian?
No matter how you cut it, 200 more Western tanks against 2,000 Soviet tanks.
Well if it's the ones sent by the UK with DU shells they can't use them. Didn't get a chance, they were blown to bits before ever being used like so much of the stuff sent by NATO.
Leapord 1….not the newest one
This aged well
And thats what is gonna make tge difference. And tgere more accurate firing on the moce
Russia can take these tanks out before they can reach the front. However, i am sure they are gonna let these tanks get fried in the middle of the battle field 😂
Already happening!
Before they are sold! You wanna tank? Good price.
If the news thing don't work out you could start making ads for Ratheon or Lockhead Martin, actually, not much difference already I suppose...
They have to get them first. Then they have to be proficient in using them.
on paper, where they are....
Not enough. Give fighter Jets
Tanks need competent air and troop support. The way to expel Russia is to attack logistics while it is still in Russia.
They use rails for logistic and have rail repair battalions, no easy way of doing that into vast terriory of Russia
Armored forces traditionally are employed in 2 ways. Tanks can be used for Infantry support operations - OR - they can be used enmasse to facilitate breaks in the lines. Ukraine lacks sufficient tanks to "spread them around" for Infantry support and based upon videos it appears they have largely been used as mobile gun platforms to shell positions or sometimes take out Russian vehicles. That coincidentally speaks to a need on the part of Ukraine for more fire platforms = artillery/mortars/rockets. Using a tank to shell a position is a waste of resources.
So the small number of western tanks involved + their superiority over Russian design tanks speaks to employing them as a means to cut through lines + and when required as reserve forces to halt Russian armored units attempting to do the same. Just as Ukraine did with Kherson whereby they faked out Russian forces in one area to attack in another to cut off forces above the Dnipro and capture the city = a battalion of western tanks in the hands of motivated Ukrainian troops can turn the Russian conscripts who frankly do not want to be there in their trenches. 🤔
This is the big difference, the dedication to doing what they do, to reclaiming land
Ukraine is fighting for survival while every Russian soldier fights for fear of being shot for treason
As soon as Russian soldiers see an opportunity, they leave
what is this "speaks to" nonsense? tanks don't speak.
@@Enigmonkey the Russians are fighting in Russia, in the villages they protected in World War Two, against German tanks that decided to return to their villages and get burned there again
@@ClubofInfo-Circulationbot
Journalists almost having an orgasm about tanks. Our media is so pro war I despair.
Short answer, No, they arent enough to win.
You wait till land dries. These tanks at 20 mph side by side 50 metres apart all driving forwards. Annihilating anything in front of them
the Russian Kornet is pretty much a confirmed kill on all of them. You could send 10,000 of them and easily lose all of them against pretty basic defenses
This comment didn't age well! Mind you, they did a good job destroying those Russian land mines and kamikaze drones LOL.
@@themanfromdystopia807 man from where…? Never heard of ya
Russia sending 1,800 tanks for its anniversary..Maybe the promised 100 tanks is coming too late?
Boom 💥
Load and fire????
Not WW3, honest!
Though the world has spent years dealing with russian bluffs....the russian people are not the enemy
That's the problem, Ukraine doesn't know how.
Do not forget 50 CV90
Send them ATACAMS for highly valuable targets.
Kadirov, Prigozin etc
During the battle of the Bulge December 1944, 1,000 Germany new Tiger 2 tanks was sent to Belgian forest to ambush and stop the advance of Allied Forces.
Allied tanks were inferior and easily crushed.
The Allied Foces destroy Germany fuel supply line to the tanks to force the tanks ran out fuel, stucked and became sitting ducks.
When the sky was clear in January 1945, without Germany air cover the tanks were easily destroyed by Allied fighter planes.
They get them in a year, by then it's already too late.
Ukraine has javelins
l feel like Ukraine will surprise us like what they've done consistently.
Yes, Luhansk, Donbass, Zaphorizia are the most feasible regions for counter-offensive. The problem is that,
1 Luhansk borders Russian mainland so there is a hit from behind.
2 Donbass has been invaded since 2014 and is heavily fortified
Thus it leaves, Zaphorizia and Kherson.
Zaphorizia is the ideal target for offensive as most people say, yet I will not rule out Kherson. Why?
1 Hit the enemy where they least expect you.
2 Kherson does not have the high risk of being encircled and is too far from the Russian border.
3 Controlling more coastline means more control in the sea and shipping.
4 Crimea will be well within range, as Ukraine is reluctant on hitting targets in Russia.
it is good at least that you acknowledge Ukraine invaded the Donbass in 2014 and began killing civilians there, which caused the war
Ukraine had 500 tanks destroyed in just 5 months ,100 tanks won't last 30 days and will be in the scap pile ,many were taken out with drones and missles before hitting the battle field so that's a total waste of equipment
I think it will not make any difference
The Leopard isn't a game changer? You guys need to get some new 'experts' to blabber on things they know nothing about
I'm only here for the armchair generals, it's great entertainment when the TV is rubbish
the infographics at least work; compared to Skynews.
For the love of god will these news channels please watch their videos before posting. Theres always this "pump it up" energy music over this super depressing topics. Distasteful.
It's propaganda, it's designed to get you pumped up for the war. It's like an action movie, disgusting.
The leopard 2a7 is the best in the world
entirely untested against modern defenses and the Russians have cheap, small missile launchers that can split them open
All of us Eurpeans and the whole world have to help UKRAINE to win this awful and terrible injust war imposed
on them by Russias criminal govenment and do whatever it takes to bring said government to justice -
and we have to do it fast - very fast. Russia go home - Putin go home !
Yah Yah, more scrap metal in the hands of T-90.
The Challenger 2 has only ever been destroyed in battle once... by another Challenger 2. There was one in Basra that sustained something daft like 70 direct RPG hits, and it wasn't destroyed. it only took 6 hours to fix the damage caused.
Now compare this to how many tanks the Russiand have lost.
The new tanks from the West are going to dominate the Russian forces.
To be fair: when was the challenger used in battle and Iraq was a very uneven fight. The US and UK basically ran through it. And what happened in Basra was also very likely a war crime.
This mentioned so often
People underestimate what 14 Challenger 2s can do on a battlefield.
@@tobiwan001 Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world at the time with thousands of T-72s which is Russia's MBT. Challenger 2 is far superior
@@Krytern what do you mean,
The man playing the devils advocate looks dumb. I lived in a Bradley during Iraq and it made the infantry units we came up against look like toy soldiers. No contest.
Escalating the proxy war this is. Despite the advantages of the western arms technologically, Ukraine will be dogged by problems of maintenance, maturity of experience and tactical adaptability to ensure effectiveness. These are no easy tasks for any professional army when introducing a variety of technologically advance equipment all at once. There's no Gandalf here to win the war by magic. and logically, looking at the resources and economic might, Russia will be able to manufacture replacements faster than Nato, especially with Chinese supply chain which carries Russian DNA. Will the supporting of Ukraine exhaust NATO's future defensive capability instead. What if ever this war takes a turn on them after the collapse of Kiev? Optimism is very expensive here.
There is decades between a Leopard 2 A4 - which is a bit outdated now - the A6 which is already among the best in the world and the most modern versions A7+ and A7V, which are the most modern in the world along the newest versions of the Abrams. And even that is being replaced with either the MGCS or the KF51 Panther. 100 or even 200 western tanks won’t be a game changer. Ukraine needs quantity. In this respect 180 1960s Leopard 1s are probably more helpful than 31 Abrams or 14 Challengers.
We want nukes. Tanks are for kids.
Ukraine will get 178leopard 1 tanks and 24leopard 2tanks.leopard 1 is already in ukraine
@@mercedeswolf9473 the German news says that 178 Leo 1 were approved, but will arrive throughout the year. The first ones soon. Around 40-50 are apparently quite ready.
And a European coalition will send roughly 100-120 Leo 2s with the first batch arriving by end of March. However by then it will only be between 15 and 30.
Agreed.
And frankly the PT91s Poland has given, plus all the other T72 variants it’s receiving are more useful, but western news outlets won’t get as wet over those.
you have to remember how much of Russia's armored assets have been destroyed, they are running out of t-72 and recommissioning t-52s. Russia might be willing to throw endless bodies at this war but they do not have the production capabilities to continuously supply MBTs (especially when they keep getting destroyed by $110,000 stinger missiles when a t-72 costs a few million LOL)
Ukraine however is being supplied MBTs, albeit in small numbers so far, by many many different countries. over time the Ukrainians will be able to stock up a larger fleet of armor than Russia and by doing it slowly and as a joint effort across many countries i believe the goal of the EU countries and USA is to supply Ukraine without putting a serious strain on their own production capacity/inventory
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The Abrams protracted supply lead time takes it out ot the equation. The 3G battle tanks are NOT invincible (obstruction by way of tank traps and against overwhelming numbers of sacifical T72s) unless adequately supported by infantry with mobile armoured vehicles (Bradleys) and effective anti-tank UAVs or battle damage tolerant A-10s NOT F16s which are more politically sensitive to the West.
So far they committed to send a pidely amount of modern tanks, that will not be decisive unless quantities are increased. For example, the US deployed 1725 Abrams tanks to Iraq and 2250 Bradleys. By comparison they have only committed 32 Abrams, and 60 Bradley's so far to Ukraine...sorry not a game changer! Russia still has thousands of tanks left to deploy as needed.
@jeffstewart3978
Afghanistan conflict lasted 20 years....... if that what Russia wants another never-ending pointless war then we give them that, no problem, gonna support Ukraine no matter how long it takes. Slava Ukraine
They have not "committed" 32 tanks. They have promised they will manufacture 32 tanks. They will probably arrive in Ukraine in 2024. Too little, too late. The war effort will still be on the shoulders of Soviet T-72 and maybe 1960s Leopard 1. It is a pity there are not still around a sizeable number of WW2 Tiger panzers.
THX for your data - I had the same thought. The USA has given up this war. For them it is already a success, Europe is divided and hast to buy energy from USA for the next decades to come.
@@oskat8981 Many country suffer - economically, some will profit (USA) but the Ukraine is used for a proxy war and will pay a high price. Not the first time in history. The "West" will fight until the last Ukrainian is dead.
If NATO countries really want to stop Putin’s forces then they really need to step up the availability of weapons, long range missiles, more tanks and jet fighters. But all that hardware means Ukrainian forces will need urgent training and it takes months just to be trained on these systems, thus NATO countries need to take swifter and more decisive aggressive measures!
NATO is group of cowards 😂😂, they never gonna shows their face in war , because Putin might get angry them so they scared... This war pushing by USA ,not EU ( EU wants to stop the war because energy crisis this may lead to civil wars)
Usa senators are slowly changing their minds
who? those 16 year old kids they're grabbing at road blocks? wake up man.
if Ukraine somehow did accumulate enough mass to overwhelm Russia, the Russians would use a nuke or 30 nukes and be justified in that. They are not somehow obligated to be defeated just because you wish it
Glory to Ukraine armour unit,, more training (Malaysia armour veteran)
indian army is not accepting arjun 2 due to weight constraint but looking into weights of advanced western tanks it looks ok 🤔
Big, heavy tanks like these were designed for fighting on open fields and steppes, such as Ukraine.
India has a different terrain to fight in with its' hills and forests, not to mention the potential of fighting in dense cities.
This calls for a lighter tank, as opposed to one that can't fit on certain roads, can't cross many bridges, and get more easily stuck in mud.
@@kristianstrm2375 true but we could use them for rajastan punjab sector
No need to denying Ukraine those tanks and u keep them in stores for they are beasts of war built to fight not for showbes
the longer the war the better for USA but im not sure its better for his teammates
This is fine but where is the reporting of Russia's replacement tank supply to give context to these Western donations? Dmitry Medvedev was just recently in the news at a Russian tank factory where they are apparently constructing or refurbishing T-72B3 and T-90M tanks - got any more info on supply rate / supposed upgrades? And are the Russian reservists (some of whom I hear already completed 18 month conscriptions) already trained on these or what?
They wont last 5 minutes in the frontline. Murderers and rapists don't make good soldiers.
This war should end as soon as possible. It is not good for my mental health. I am quite convinced that i am getting crazy because of this war
Retake Crimea then secure Black sea and move north securing Azov sea.
With out air defence it's a waste of time ! They are too late Putin is allready rolling ! I hope this is wrong ! Ukrainian people should get out for a bit !
Wij Nederlanders stuuren 20 f 35 rap tors duitsland stuur ook 20 rap tors
most of the tanks Ukraine get are improved T72s and leopard 1s (not L 2s )
are they modernized ? repaired ?
The challengers UK provide are NOT modernized and they need a special ammunition ---- Will there be enough ammunition ?
Mybe Poland can give a few of their L 2PL which are very good as they get their new Abrams
infantry need taks and mortars and howitzers and helicopters and fixed wing jets to support them
Tanks are not so strong on their own - they need protection!
We know Russia will send very many troops and to stop them mortar systems are efficient
the best systems are the finnish AMOS on Patria fighting vehicle is absolutely amazing and Mjolner on CV90 fighting vehicle is almost identical
then there are less capable but still good systems like the Dänish Cardom 10
Use a NATO soldier to do that.
BABBBYYYYY
Ukraine needs fighter jets and, if possible attack helicopters, as soon as possible - it seems there is a lot of discussion about Western jets, however the quickest would be to supply any Soviet jet (and helicopter) available to the west - for example Poland and Bulgaria operate MiG-29 and Romania operates MiG-21. Planning to supply Ukraine with Western jets in the medium term should continue, but supplying MiG's would help plug the gap.
What new tanks ? this report says they still haven't got them yet , not till April and Abrams in 2024 , Maybe the Russians will wait till they arrive , and also not air strike them as they transport them across the Polish border into Ukraine
If they tried to air strike NATO, we would shoot down the missiles and then declare war on Russia and proceed to take Moscow in days…
Ukraine can use their new NATO tanks wisely or stupidly. Knowing Zelensky, he’ll order a frontal assault to recapture Crimea or Bakhmut, and lose them all.
Bingo!
(0:57) "Challenger 2 is mobile and highly dynamic Tank" Datasheet 59 km/h. Seconds later XM-1 Datasheet 59 km/h is wrong he is able of 70 km/h same as Leopard 2. They are even to dumb to compare some numbers but they are convinced to send tanks. Journalists 🫣
Друзья мои. Все вы делаете одну большую ошибку. Никому не надо, что бы Украина победила. Её задача - воевать. Воевать столько, на сколько Украины хватит. Потом будут воевать братские народы Польши и Прибалтики. Возможно, удастся втянуть Германию. Но это всё. Французы воевать не станут. Украинцы, поляки и немцы, французам не братья. А островитян, Россия, просто сотрёт с карты и с местности. Русские, в любом варианте победят. Это исторический факт. Иначе не бывает. А вот кто в этой войне выиграет? Правильно. Американцы.
Too few and too late for ukraine. This is a high intensity conflict where equipment is lost quicker than it can be replaced. While NATO equipment is superior to Russia's, it still too few will be sent to make a difference on the battlefield. NATO doesn't care if Ukraine wins or not. They only care about degrading Russia's military capabilities at the expense of the Ukrainians.
Russia going lose this war and Putin knows. Unless there two scenarios which change the tide of war. Scenario one is another January 6 in America and Scenario two is if a massive natural disaster where to hit the United States. Both scenario would see Russia launching a nuclear first strike on the both the US and China.
I am sure Ukrainians use them with ultimately lethal correctess. Possibly, surprising the designers of this equipment themselves, too. Cheers from Poland. Slava Ukraini.
Ты придурок, хоть понимаешь, что еще вчера под лозунг "Слава Украине", украинские нацисты, убивали поляков? Ты хоть узнай когда и у кого появился этот лозунг. Это был пароль бандеровской ОУН - УПА. Почему ты не пишешь, "Бандере Слава!"?
😂😂 they all gonna left them for Russia and came to Ukraine with empty hands
@Purushotham Yadav learn to speak properly Troll
@@leecudmore-ray6697 or what 🤣🤣 , you're a Funny guy
@@shurikkupitman5407 Бандере Слава!
Bring on the3 tanks, each one of them is just one missile worth, or guided artillery shell
The west need to really up the supplies - sending obsolete lepard1 is an insult
The need to keep their nose out, the west cause nothing but suffering
@@daveoc5770 The West are going to ensure Putin or any of his kind find invading peaceful countries so painful and expensive they never do it again
Why is Russia using t-60s then
Just imagine what putin has planned for those tanks the second they make an
appearance, has NATO forgot about the fighter jets that Russia is just waiting to us for this moment, it’s going to get ugly
Oh yeah Russia is just holding back with the good stuff. It’s not like they get shot down because every soldier in Ukraine is carrying a tube that shoots down Russian planes like it’s Space Invaders.
@@muckraker7942 bro come on now it’s Russia don’t believe this propaganda about them shooting down all the missiles if that was the case then why is that losers Zelensky begging for the whole world to still be help them if the Russian army is so bad? lol it takes Russia about a year to get things going then they kill everyone and everything they are fighting, do some research before writing Russia off we have not seen anything yet
Those fighter jets that they can't fly over Ukraine without getting shot down? Yeah.
@@teddypicker8799 haven’t seen any videos of them being shot down and neither have you , helicopters yes lots get shot down but no fighter jets, tanks are meaningless when there are fighter jets around
@@mikem4926 Mate there's loads of videos of russian jets shot down just search it
Tanks are the tip of the spear. Ukraine needs long range missiles to destroy Russian logistics first. Hopefully these GLSDB's will come soon rather than later
Did you clap on Thursdays
Or had cups of tea 💉 ?
@@petersmith6974 You wanna give that comment a 2nd go? It doesn't make any sense
@@timmann743 What has calling someone a spoon have to do with clapping on a specific day?
Russia is in the right and has been from the get-go. Pushed relentlessly into a corner and scammed through the Merkel-Poroshenko setp of the Minsk Accords Russia finally realised that there was only one way remaining to feel safe and her people fully protected. That way is being followed now. It was only Russia that went the extra mile for year after year seeking a peaceful way to achieve security for the mixed-marriage predominantly Russian-speaking people of eastern Ukraine after the coup in Kiev. The West wasn't interested. Zelensky talked of regaining nuclear status. And for 9 years the Ukrainian military forces pummeled the near helpless civilian population of the Donbass with the deaths of 15,000. A terrorist activity which has continued to this very day. We should all therefore support Russia in this struggle to finally achieve what the West refused to give her.
@Teddy
lol....Russia reserves the right to directly nuke those who support Ukraine right now. Specially those who have destroyed themselves so many other countries across the globe and killed millions and now come and lecture us on humanity in Ukraine.
I would say that they might last one week if they can get them trained and onto the battlefield before the wars over
14 Challenger Tanks 🤣 The UK kept advocating for sending Ukraine tanks, and in the end, they sent them 14! The UK allies experiencing the UK SUPPORT! If there is no money to be packed in someone's private pockets, you can forget about it.
The charity organizations in the UK look exactly the same - the British keep talking about help, support, and bla-bla-bla, and in the end, it's ALWAYS someone else to do the work and pay the bills.
Thanks for "your generosity" and all the shallow words!
It ended up that the ones who had the most hesitations sent them more than the very same people who were walking around pointing fingers and giving lectures in support! 🤣
If it wasn’t for the British, NATO would still be dithering about on whether to send tanks or not. Those 14 Challenger 2s have already done their job, they’ve broken the deadlock and now NATO is sending its MBTs. That’s the British contribution. We were first. Every NATO tank that goes to Ukraine is partially responsible by Britain.
@@qasimmir7117 NO WE DIDN'T - IT WAS POLAND! The UK made 2 things in this war only - made money on inside trading from the rise of the Gas and Oil prices and told Ukrainian rape victims that they should forget about rape accusations because they are EMIGRANTS AND BEGGARS DO NOT HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS!
So, NO! The UK might be dreaming of playing the ULTIMATE WORLD DICTATOR where they tell everyone what to do, when to do it, how to spend their money, what to spend their money for, who should they pay, who should have money, who should be rich and who should be poor, but when it comes to AID - US and EU gave 10 times more aid than the UK!
And may I also remind you that all the Russian Olygarchs, who pilled vast sums of money in private UK pockets are DEAD! What an accident! May I also give you a hint on THE ULTIMATE WORLD DICTATORSHIP - the Russians who gave money for the Trump campaign, were the very same people who were funding UK "initiatives" (this is on top of the Cambridge Analytica story!!!!) As you can certainly notice the US doesn't need Boris Johnson telling Donal Trump what to do and play the role of the US BOSS! Nor anybody else for that matter! They can their own decisions ON THEIR OWN!
The support for Ukraine came from the US and the EU, lead by Poland, for your disappointment - the most hated from Neigel Farage, Boris Johnson, and the Brexiteer racist Briton!
ахах и 8 месяцев спустя это все металлолом!!
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Don't ask the Ukrainian army use it by it own way
Russia will tolerate only upto if its not threatened of its sovereignty of its lands