Lets finally be real, i know its hard. They had an agenda. Mo sane person could possibly compare angel reese and caitlin clark as overall basketball players. Its like comparing dennis rodman with michael jordan.
CC was breaking ankles, blowing by defenders, and consistently averaging 10+ assists in July. No to mention 19 assists in one game, breaking the single game most points contributed all-time record, and averaging most points contributed for the season. So much cap.
She's also turning the ball over more than anyone in history, yesterday she had 9 turnovers. She has to clean that up of they won't make it out of the first round. If she does clean it up, they could go to the Finals
@@BigJasonHenderson But u r😂😂😂😂😂😂 That tells me that you wanna watch women’s basketball over football in which that’s even more comical than you telling me I’m wrong about the Liberty and The Aces. Ok sir. You keep watching that butchery league if you likin dat paaaaaaa☹️
I think the main reason these ESPN women are backpedaling on Caitlin is because McNutt got on Steven A Smith on First Take and he hasn’t had them back on the show.
@sevenfights Thought both Smith and Sharpe said these women were nowhere to be found since WNBA Allstar break? They had no one to yell at so they both tag team on Molly 😂😂😂
McNutts insulted Stephen A. He did not care for her tone especially since she was wrong and will never admit it. McNutts has not been back on the show and will probably never be. Her comparison of Clark and that girl from the Sky was ridiculous. If you watch hoops it was obvious.
When McNutt made that comment she said the Sky were in the playoffs. The Fever were as well at the 8th spot. Only like 1/2 game behind or virtually tied.
Yeah, it was the best reason she could come up with at the time. I wouldn't have been surprised if she said she preferred Reese's pre-game outfits over Clark's.
Mcnutt's narrative went against WNBA history. Out of the 26 times the ROTY had been given. 14 of them have gone to a player, whose team had a losing record. 13 players whose team did not make the playoffs. 3 of them to a player whose team was .500.
@@rockrap6240no. I mean you still have to add in the fact on whether they're actually good or not. If Caitlyn was on the sky with her same stats then yes of course she would still win it.
Charles Barkley was right. These women are all jealous and ruining Caitlin Clark entering WNBA. Instead of embracing her talent and fame to help generate more revenue for league and players. They tear her down, being petty and jealous. We remember who was here day one and who are only now saying nice things to save their job.
There was never a real argument for angel as ROTY. Everybody who said that was lying for clout. It was never close even when Caitlin was averaging 15-16 points. Rebounds have never mattered more than assist in any ROTY or MVP awards, ever.
Besides the fact that they were both head to head in standings, having an individual award be given to someone based on the team's results and not the individual's performance is extremely stupid. And I'm not saying Reese at that point was a better or a worse player than Caitlin Clark. I'm just saying that the reasoning is dumb
Why do idiots try to measure players by team standings or championships? Those are team stats. But, if you measure rookie of the year by team standings... Do we measure mvp based on that too?
Agreed. I never understood the championship thing either. I would take Dan Marino and Charles Barkley over a lot of quarterbacks and power forwards that have rings.
There was never a point where Reese looked like the rookie of the year over Caitlin. And that whole conversation was going to come to an end after their third meeting if Sides hadn’t decided to throw that game away in the second half. Because the fever was blowing the sky away like they did in the last game, until Sides decided to let Reese abuse the weakest link on the team and had a great game by her standards. Which also kept that whole talk going.
Pecks doubletalk still contains some BS. Actually there was dishonesty in there. She hasn’t adjusted to the speed of the game, she has raised it and her team has caught up. She has changed the speed of the game. The teams that have done well against them (the Lynx), are SPRINTING back on defense.
Mick, I don't care how many times you say it (even though I know you're pandering for clicks), it NEVER made sense to have Angel Reese over Caitlin Clark for rookie of the year! The only statistical metric that favored Reese was rebounding. Clark led in everything else. Plus, when you factor in responsibilities on the court, usage rate, the type of defensive coverage that each one faced etc. it was ALWAYS A NO-BRAINER. When you do and say things just for clicks, you lose a little piece of your integrity.
@@cathygregory3443 Respectfully disagree. He went back and forth several times. Some people even said they were unsubscribing to him because of it. He's also admitted many times that he's in the clicks business and does what he has to do. He was very disingenuous when it came to the ROY race and he fed into the nonsense as much as anyone.
What I don’t get, is that all the haters like Swoopes and McNut and so on, always look for excuse to discredit Clark? How come none of them mention or brings up how many of those “so called double double” stats from Reese were from garbage time? Truth is they don’t want to admit that they just want to hating on Clark.
They are just not realizing this on their own but are following whatever ESPN tells them to do. Their heads are too hard hard and stubborn. If ESPN decides it's time to sop the idiotic criticism they will stop it because jobs on ESPN are on shaky ground
5:35 On Sept 10, I have A'ja (929) and Jackie (536) at 1465 pts (in 34 and 33 games) and Caitlin (692) and Kelsey (689) at 1381 pts in 36 games. So I think they're right, A'ja and Jackie are the highest-scoring duo.
EXACTLY, her teammates are finally catching up with CC'S game. She.has been balling from the beginning, the others have realized greatness is leading the way n they had to put their head down n get to work! CC 4 MVP
I said the same think as Monica about the records. And that’s exactly how it’s worked out. As soon as the Fever started winning and Chicago started losing the race was decided.
If the first thing that comes out of your mouth is something like: "My rookie of the year pick is going to be based on standings.", aren't you obligated to pick a rookie from the number one team in the league, regardless of the player's stats?
4:46: "They trust she's gonna get it where it needs to be" - A non-hater commentator would have said: "SHE trusts They're gonna get it where it needs to be"!
Monica McNutt is with Geno Auriemma and Swoops in Galveston at the dirty water beach and can’t be reached for any follow up questions regarding CC fit in the WNBA or her winning rookie of the year 😂
they always talk about caitlin's "adjustment" so they dont quite have to admit they were wrong. meanwhile she was averaging 15-5-5 when she was apparently "struggling"
If MVP means most valuable to the league Caitlin Clark is not only this year's MVP but all time. If it's most valuable to your team she is still arguably MVP, definitely top 5.
Not for nothing, but McNutt did not really admit anything about CC 22. She praised everyone else without directly saying anything good about Clark, so yeah.
They came around don’t patronize them for it. Otherwise they will become like Swoops and will keep doubling down with the nonsense. Congratulate them for finally putting their egos on the side
These reporters should just be fair about the reality on how CC evolved into a killer ball player. That Olympic break was all she needed. She studied the double team on her before half-court...she developed her dribbling and penetration. The shooting part is already there.
Citlin is all class, plays her game, never says anything bad about other players or even her haters, people are coming around and realizing what a talent and what a genuinely nice person she is.
At least these analysts finally recognize what we’ve been seeing all season or hell, since college. Others just can’t recognize she’s having an insane season for a recognize.
I remember when all Reese fans were using the Fever standings, the team records, to say Reese was ROTY - when the Fever pulled ahead, they quickly switched to something else.. it’s been a new reason every week why Reese is ROTY.. now they’ve been clinging on to “her rebounds tho☹️😳” but they don’t even believe it themselves I think lol
Hahaha Mick says it's okay if people change their minds about things. He's making sure he get's a pass for predicting that Angel Reese was going to be roty.
I would like to know what criteria you use to judge MVP? Is it personal stats, your impact on improving your team, or impact on the WNBA overall? Or is is a mix of these and at what weighting for each? Then objectively evaluate the top 5 contenders by these criteria
Lol!!! Adjusted..... They needed to adjust to her. Just like that pass she was raving about. That would have been a turnover the first week of the season, not because of the pass, but the recipient.
Guys there was a reason why fever had top teams at the start of the season, she played with a new team so they dont know how to play as team just so aja can get mvp. Just see what fever do in 2nd half because they started to play like a real team
Well McNutt said, according to the way how you should be picking the ROTY, is that the team with the better record should win ROTY, which is ridiculous, but let’s see how she votes at the end of the season. The walk back is going to be hilarious
Early on, it could just be a bad take. When the truth becomes extremely obvious it becomes a lie if the bad take is held persistent. I think a lot of people, including me, have had the wrong guess about players on their rookie season. But after a while, the truth presents itself in capital letters.
I think Monica was speaking of guard-forward/center instead of guard-guard. I also think there was a lot of resentment from the Elba veteran contingent when Caitlin came into the league because she had already made substantial money through name-image-likeness, something they never had the opportunity to do.
I remembered when mcnut said those standing narrative coz fever was going to have hard games to face by that time but CC overcome the mercury after mcnut said it 😂😅
No Mick, it wasn't really justifiable to have Reese as the ROY frontrunner at any point this season. Here's their exact stats that McNutt based her initial ROY discussion off of, which was on the morning on July 5th, which was close to the end of Reese's double-double streak and thus when the ROY race was just about the closest it got: - Clark (in 21 gms): 16.0 ppg, 5.7 reb, 7.1 ast, 1.3 stl, 0.8 blk, 5.6 to; 39.1% FG, 33.7% 3s, 88.5% FT - Reese (in 18 gms): 13.2 ppg, 11.8 reb, 2.1 ast, 1.4 stl, 0.2 blk, 1.8 to; 39.7% FG, 0% 3s, 74.2% FT Even at that point, Reese was certainly not actually better than Clark overall stat-wise; at best one could say that it was perhaps too close to call, if being generous to Reese. But in reality, Clark was still generally ahead of Reese back then.
They try so hard to force Aja into conversations thats why people arent organically seeking out Aja its ridiculous she wont get the recognition they are trying to get that way. Jackie Young to Aja Wilson connection is ridiculous
The NFL will have to adjust its schedule to be competitive with Fever games. ESPN didn't see that coming. Memo went out: "Clark good, not bad. Act accordingly".
Molly Qerim said Caitlin was untalented. How ironic when all of Molly's Talent came from a Cosmetic Surgeon, and somewhere around $100,000. Shut up Molly
I find it HILARIOUS that they're making such a big deal about Reese's double doubles , I've been watching and I played basketball for awhile and NOBODY ever gave a shit about it until reese comes along now it's a big deal, I'll bet money most if not all couldn't have told you who held the record the previous season until they had to find out so they could make reese relevant
Mick, I agree with you that I like to see them now on the Caitlin bandwagon, but they don’t have the same energy for her when it comes to MVP convo or WNBA First team, that’s when they pull back on the praise
Oh it's so hard to admit it. So they give CC credit along with the rest of the team. The whole team deserves credit but CC should be singled out for being the catalyst.
How Caitlin's adjusted to the speed of the game? What's she talking about? Caitlin's had to slow down to adjust to Side's half-court MO and the typical WNBA play. This was a back-handed compliment at best, and truthfully a way of NOT saying '...we were wrong...." Nobody on that panel said she was wrong. And McNutt, as per her usual MO, has to bring A'ja into the conversation to devalue Caitlin. None of the Caitlin-hating choir at ESPN's WNBA choir has said she is wrong. But it's so blatantly dishonest to continue to devalue Caitlin's accomplishments that they would look foolish to continue to do it. Can you spell 'disingenuous'?
Stop being a Caitlin Clark fan dude. We know she can play and also watch football instead of women complaining about Caitlin Clark for crying out loud🙄
League, former players, media all made this a fake rivalry. Using AR was wrong. Everyone involved should be held accountable. This was so obvious and still people fed in to it Embarrassing and disrespectful that they thought the world would accept it. Stop the madness and lies Truth and facts will one day again mean something 😂
Someone has to have the stat of how many turnovers were attributed to her teammates dropping or just not being ready for amazing passes?! Yea, Clark makes enough dumb turnovers on her own, but it was definitely inflated from her teammates not being reliable.
It is great that they are coming around, but their pandering doubletalk is a bit nauseating and self serving. Their egos won’t allow them to say, ‘I had this wrong’.
CC never adjusted to the speed of the game. They are trying to adjust to her speed/pace. She’s blowing by everyone.
Lucky for CC, Kelsey Mitchell is another racehorse.
Exactly but these ladies could NEVER say this.
@@testodudeyea it’s been cool to watch the two figure it out.
Unfortunately sides hasnt adjusted and is still trying to slow her and the team down.
She still ismforcing Clark to play slow and dumb basketball.
They’re acting like they never said what they said or acted the way they did. LMAO. I need to hear a “We were wrong. Sorry.”
Lets finally be real, i know its hard. They had an agenda. Mo sane person could possibly compare angel reese and caitlin clark as overall basketball players. Its like comparing dennis rodman with michael jordan.
Reese is Rodman without the defense...
Espn 💯 had an agenda. Equal opportunity praise and coverage to make everyone feel good.
Exactly like that. No better comparison.
I keep telling peeps... OMG. Go ask Michael Jordan how important Dennis Rodman was to his Bulls Dynasty. It's pointless to compare the two.
@@sanjosesharks98 Steph Curry and Andre Drummond is the most accurate comparison.
CC was breaking ankles, blowing by defenders, and consistently averaging 10+ assists in July. No to mention 19 assists in one game, breaking the single game most points contributed all-time record, and averaging most points contributed for the season. So much cap.
Yes, but we aren't talking about an honest evaluation here.
She's also turning the ball over more than anyone in history, yesterday she had 9 turnovers. She has to clean that up of they won't make it out of the first round. If she does clean it up, they could go to the Finals
Ok, so explain why the Fever hasn’t beaten the Liberty or the Aces yet?
@@vincente4570Might want to delete that’s. Demonstrates you’re not paying attention
@@BigJasonHenderson But u r😂😂😂😂😂😂
That tells me that you wanna watch women’s basketball over football in which that’s even more comical than you telling me I’m wrong about the Liberty and The Aces. Ok sir. You keep watching that butchery league if you likin dat paaaaaaa☹️
I put all these "adjustment" rationales in the same bin as the driver who claims, "I was just driving by, and the stop sign hit me."
I think the main reason these ESPN women are backpedaling on Caitlin is because McNutt got on Steven A Smith on First Take and he hasn’t had them back on the show.
He should drag them all back to the show and rub it in 😂
@sevenfights Thought both Smith and Sharpe said these women were nowhere to be found since WNBA Allstar break? They had no one to yell at so they both tag team on Molly 😂😂😂
McNutts insulted Stephen A. He did not care for her tone especially since she was wrong and will never admit it. McNutts has not been back on the show and will probably never be. Her comparison of Clark and that girl from the Sky was ridiculous. If you watch hoops it was obvious.
I think they may have been called into someones office.
Or Caitlin is just playing better now than she was earlier in the year.
The issue for some (not me) is that the “analysts” aren’t acknowledging they changed their minds
When McNutt made that comment she said the Sky were in the playoffs. The Fever were as well at the 8th spot. Only like 1/2 game behind or virtually tied.
Yeah, it was the best reason she could come up with at the time. I wouldn't have been surprised if she said she preferred Reese's pre-game outfits over Clark's.
Mcnutt's narrative went against WNBA history. Out of the 26 times the ROTY had been given. 14 of them have gone to a player, whose team had a losing record. 13 players whose team did not make the playoffs. 3 of them to a player whose team was .500.
So you’re saying Reese has a chance? Interesting take.
Which is not surprising given the way U.S. sports work, where the best rookies go to the worst teams.
@@rockrap6240no. I mean you still have to add in the fact on whether they're actually good or not. If Caitlyn was on the sky with her same stats then yes of course she would still win it.
Charles Barkley was right. These women are all jealous and ruining Caitlin Clark entering WNBA. Instead of embracing her talent and fame to help generate more revenue for league and players. They tear her down, being petty and jealous. We remember who was here day one and who are only now saying nice things to save their job.
There was never a real argument for angel as ROTY. Everybody who said that was lying for clout. It was never close even when Caitlin was averaging 15-16 points. Rebounds have never mattered more than assist in any ROTY or MVP awards, ever.
Besides the fact that they were both head to head in standings, having an individual award be given to someone based on the team's results and not the individual's performance is extremely stupid. And I'm not saying Reese at that point was a better or a worse player than Caitlin Clark. I'm just saying that the reasoning is dumb
it is pretty funny (and rather telling) that as soon as Indiana started winning, you never heard team record mentioned as a consideration.
Why do idiots try to measure players by team standings or championships? Those are team stats.
But, if you measure rookie of the year by team standings... Do we measure mvp based on that too?
Agreed. I never understood the championship thing either. I would take Dan Marino and Charles Barkley over a lot of quarterbacks and power forwards that have rings.
Because they’re lazy😊
There was never a point where Reese looked like the rookie of the year over Caitlin. And that whole conversation was going to come to an end after their third meeting if Sides hadn’t decided to throw that game away in the second half. Because the fever was blowing the sky away like they did in the last game, until Sides decided to let Reese abuse the weakest link on the team and had a great game by her standards. Which also kept that whole talk going.
Pecks doubletalk still contains some BS. Actually there was dishonesty in there. She hasn’t adjusted to the speed of the game, she has raised it and her team has caught up. She has changed the speed of the game. The teams that have done well against them (the Lynx), are SPRINTING back on defense.
Yeah on behalf of C22, I felt a bit disrespeted when she said that. It was definitely a mean girls style backhanded "compliment."
Mick, I don't care how many times you say it (even though I know you're pandering for clicks), it NEVER made sense to have Angel Reese over Caitlin Clark for rookie of the year! The only statistical metric that favored Reese was rebounding. Clark led in everything else. Plus, when you factor in responsibilities on the court, usage rate, the type of defensive coverage that each one faced etc. it was ALWAYS A NO-BRAINER. When you do and say things just for clicks, you lose a little piece of your integrity.
If you listen to all of Mick's videos from then, you know it wasn't for clicks. He truly admired Angel, and we've watched his opinion evolve.
@@cathygregory3443 Respectfully disagree. He went back and forth several times. Some people even said they were unsubscribing to him because of it. He's also admitted many times that he's in the clicks business and does what he has to do. He was very disingenuous when it came to the ROY race and he fed into the nonsense as much as anyone.
aw, their Kween quit on her team for the year, so they pivoted to the real ROTY and MVP candidate to fill their segments.
ESPN over the past years has lost all relevance.
Thats why these conversations should always be based on measurable stats and not based on biases or anything else.
Now they finally see CC is different at the pro level. Smh took em long enough
What I don’t get, is that all the haters like Swoopes and McNut and so on, always look for excuse to discredit Clark? How come none of them mention or brings up how many of those “so called double double” stats from Reese were from garbage time? Truth is they don’t want to admit that they just want to hating on Clark.
They are just not realizing this on their own but are following whatever ESPN tells them to do. Their heads are too hard hard and stubborn. If ESPN decides it's time to sop the idiotic criticism they will stop it because jobs on ESPN are on shaky ground
McNutts "standings" take was because nobody expected the Sky to collapse and Indiana coming back from the break on steroids 😂
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5:35 On Sept 10, I have A'ja (929) and Jackie (536) at 1465 pts (in 34 and 33 games) and Caitlin (692) and Kelsey (689) at 1381 pts in 36 games. So I think they're right, A'ja and Jackie are the highest-scoring duo.
I think Mick was confusing "duo" with "backcourt", because he's made the statement about them being the best backcourt many times.
@@aden538 97 videos a day, 2 hours of sleep a night, easy for him to get confused!
The comment about Duos was to promote Aja over CC, if they had said CC/KM were ahead of Aja/? it would help in CC MVP discussion
EXACTLY, her teammates are finally catching up with CC'S game. She.has been balling from the beginning, the others have realized greatness is leading the way n they had to put their head down n get to work! CC 4 MVP
I said the same think as Monica about the records. And that’s exactly how it’s worked out. As soon as the Fever started winning and Chicago started losing the race was decided.
No one should idolize Swoopes anymore. Let her fantasize abt the sky and their putrid team
She tried so hard to make an excuse for Reese. We all know she was trying to get it for her under DEI.
If the first thing that comes out of your mouth is something like: "My rookie of the year pick is going to be based on standings.", aren't you obligated to pick a rookie from the number one team in the league, regardless of the player's stats?
4:46: "They trust she's gonna get it where it needs to be" - A non-hater commentator would have said: "SHE trusts They're gonna get it where it needs to be"!
Monica McNutt is with Geno Auriemma and Swoops in Galveston at the dirty water beach and can’t be reached for any follow up questions regarding CC fit in the WNBA or her winning rookie of the year 😂
Bruh, CC is setting the pace the game😂
I dont think anyone at ESPN even watches the WNBA to make statements like this....
They’re hosts for ESPN don’t recognize CC records. Rediculously.
The Chet and wemby comparison is so spot on. Chet had a very good case early but eventually you couldn’t even bet on ROTY anymore lol
That is the Caitlin Clark effect people go in hating but after watching her they all become fans. She exciting to watch.
they always talk about caitlin's "adjustment" so they dont quite have to admit they were wrong. meanwhile she was averaging 15-5-5 when she was apparently "struggling"
If MVP means most valuable to the league Caitlin Clark is not only this year's MVP but all time. If it's most valuable to your team she is still arguably MVP, definitely top 5.
She saw the light we can’t complain forever
But we can ignore her. That is the fate she really wants to avoid. No clicks for you. One Year! Lol.
Glad to see you wearing some long sleeved shirts. You seem a lot more professional in the long sleeves. Good podcast.
They finally came around. That’s good. I don’t see the point in pushing the issue further. What more are people looking for from them?
Caitlin grew up with this dream in her head. We are in it.
The way ESPN Shows clips of her making shots is crazy... How long it must take to make those
Not for nothing, but McNutt did not really admit anything about CC 22. She praised everyone else without directly saying anything good about Clark, so yeah.
They came around don’t patronize them for it. Otherwise they will become like Swoops and will keep doubling down with the nonsense. Congratulate them for finally putting their egos on the side
These reporters should just be fair about the reality on how CC evolved into a killer ball player. That Olympic break was all she needed. She studied the double team on her before half-court...she developed her dribbling and penetration. The shooting part is already there.
I want them to change their minds, yes, but it should come with an admission that they were wrong.
These people just don’t do that.
"My choice for this individual award is to pick the player who has the best team behind them"
said nobody with a brain, ever
Citlin is all class, plays her game, never says anything bad about other players or even her haters, people are coming around and realizing what a talent and what a genuinely nice person she is.
So her ROTY was going to go to whoever was on the best team???
Makes no sense whatsoever that you’d base an individual award on which TEAM was better!
At least these analysts finally recognize what we’ve been seeing all season or hell, since college. Others just can’t recognize she’s having an insane season for a recognize.
I remember when all Reese fans were using the Fever standings, the team records, to say Reese was ROTY - when the Fever pulled ahead, they quickly switched to something else.. it’s been a new reason every week why Reese is ROTY.. now they’ve been clinging on to “her rebounds tho☹️😳” but they don’t even believe it themselves I think lol
Kudos to them for changing their opinion. People should feel comfortable changing their minds, I hope people don't attack them to badly.
Hahaha Mick says it's okay if people change their minds about things. He's making sure he get's a pass for predicting that Angel Reese was going to be roty.
If I've learned nothing else from this channel, "it is what it is"
I would like to know what criteria you use to judge MVP? Is it personal stats, your impact on improving your team, or impact on the WNBA overall? Or is is a mix of these and at what weighting for each? Then objectively evaluate the top 5 contenders by these criteria
Lol!!! Adjusted..... They needed to adjust to her. Just like that pass she was raving about. That would have been a turnover the first week of the season, not because of the pass, but the recipient.
The ESPN Women will “ALWAYS HATE” and be JEALOUS of CAITLIN CLARK.
“ALWAYS”
This is great to see actually, and u can tell theyre happy to stop hating.
Guys there was a reason why fever had top teams at the start of the season, she played with a new team so they dont know how to play as team just so aja can get mvp. Just see what fever do in 2nd half because they started to play like a real team
she said that Caitlin Clark has adjusted TO the speed of the game. The game has to adjust to the speed of Caitlin Clark. Wtf
Well McNutt said, according to the way how you should be picking the ROTY, is that the team with the better record should win ROTY, which is ridiculous, but let’s see how she votes at the end of the season. The walk back is going to be hilarious
Early on, it could just be a bad take. When the truth becomes extremely obvious it becomes a lie if the bad take is held persistent. I think a lot of people, including me, have had the wrong guess about players on their rookie season. But after a while, the truth presents itself in capital letters.
Peck has always talked about CC in a fairly positive light.
I think Monica was speaking of guard-forward/center instead of guard-guard.
I also think there was a lot of resentment from the Elba veteran contingent when Caitlin came into the league because she had already made substantial money through name-image-likeness, something they never had the opportunity to do.
people: look at the stats, the sellouts, the money, the team record. she is in the elite 1.
Huge Clark fan but Kelsey Mitchell is killing it too
I remembered when mcnut said those standing narrative coz fever was going to have hard games to face by that time but CC overcome the mercury after mcnut said it 😂😅
Somebody didn’t want to get fired.
Clark just named player of the week again
No Mick, it wasn't really justifiable to have Reese as the ROY frontrunner at any point this season. Here's their exact stats that McNutt based her initial ROY discussion off of, which was on the morning on July 5th, which was close to the end of Reese's double-double streak and thus when the ROY race was just about the closest it got:
- Clark (in 21 gms): 16.0 ppg, 5.7 reb, 7.1 ast, 1.3 stl, 0.8 blk, 5.6 to; 39.1% FG, 33.7% 3s, 88.5% FT
- Reese (in 18 gms): 13.2 ppg, 11.8 reb, 2.1 ast, 1.4 stl, 0.2 blk, 1.8 to; 39.7% FG, 0% 3s, 74.2% FT
Even at that point, Reese was certainly not actually better than Clark overall stat-wise; at best one could say that it was perhaps too close to call, if being generous to Reese. But in reality, Clark was still generally ahead of Reese back then.
They all made their takes on emotion instead of actually using their eyeballs.
Its almost like Angel drops out and ESPN hosts can say what they actually think.
Their bosses came and laid down the law
Was it more that her teammates adjusted to her after awhile? Who remembers all those dropped passes?
They try so hard to force Aja into conversations thats why people arent organically seeking out Aja its ridiculous she wont get the recognition they are trying to get that way. Jackie Young to Aja Wilson connection is ridiculous
When you were wrong about something you said you acknowledge it, they have not done it
The NFL will have to adjust its schedule to be competitive with Fever games. ESPN didn't see that coming. Memo went out: "Clark good, not bad. Act accordingly".
so espn finally looked at the stat sheet ... and the attendee record ... and the cash flow.
Molly Qerim said Caitlin was untalented. How ironic when all of Molly's Talent came from a Cosmetic Surgeon, and somewhere around $100,000. Shut up Molly
I find it HILARIOUS that they're making such a big deal about Reese's double doubles , I've been watching and I played basketball for awhile and NOBODY ever gave a shit about it until reese comes along now it's a big deal, I'll bet money most if not all couldn't have told you who held the record the previous season until they had to find out so they could make reese relevant
She was or is.. no she still is she just knows now she can't hide the truth...
Mick, I agree with you that I like to see them now on the Caitlin bandwagon, but they don’t have the same energy for her when it comes to MVP convo or WNBA First team, that’s when they pull back on the praise
Oh it's so hard to admit it. So they give CC credit along with the rest of the team. The whole team deserves credit but CC should be singled out for being the catalyst.
Where do you get stats on Scoring Duos?
Someone needs to compile all of these bad takes on CC and call out all of these fake sport analysts.
What the hell you think these RUclipsrs are doing paaaaaaa😮
McNutt’s ROTY based on standings, but her MVP is on pure stats.
McNuthing spends her time resenting the existence of CC
How Caitlin's adjusted to the speed of the game? What's she talking about? Caitlin's had to slow down to adjust to Side's half-court MO and the typical WNBA play. This was a back-handed compliment at best, and truthfully a way of NOT saying '...we were wrong...." Nobody on that panel said she was wrong. And McNutt, as per her usual MO, has to bring A'ja into the conversation to devalue Caitlin. None of the Caitlin-hating choir at ESPN's WNBA choir has said she is wrong. But it's so blatantly dishonest to continue to devalue Caitlin's accomplishments that they would look foolish to continue to do it. Can you spell 'disingenuous'?
Stop being a Caitlin Clark fan dude. We know she can play and also watch football instead of women complaining about Caitlin Clark for crying out loud🙄
League, former players, media all made this a fake rivalry. Using AR was wrong. Everyone involved should be held accountable. This was so obvious and still people fed in to it Embarrassing and disrespectful that they thought the world would accept it. Stop the madness and lies Truth and facts will one day again mean something 😂
Even when the WNBA gets a pay increase because of Caitlin impact most WNBA players ,coaches, and certain analysts will not give her any credit.
All these “analysts” were praying for her to fail
Are the awards given before playoffs or after?
There is levels to this thing…
“Nod to Angel Reese(?)”
That’s messed up. Caitlin Clark is miles ahead of Reese.
Someone has to have the stat of how many turnovers were attributed to her teammates dropping or just not being ready for amazing passes?!
Yea, Clark makes enough dumb turnovers on her own, but it was definitely inflated from her teammates not being reliable.
Didn’t the players in Indiana have to get used to Caitlin’s speed??
Angel Reese may have actually won ROTY… had she not been in the same draft class as Caitlin Clark
It is great that they are coming around, but their pandering doubletalk is a bit nauseating and self serving. Their egos won’t allow them to say, ‘I had this wrong’.