He said he could TAKE DOWN Seer... he was not prepared
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3:04, The Fear in his voice is just perfect
Hes sitting there...menacingly
as he stares at you, you start feeling shivers down your spine...
Top comment 😂😂😂
Leth said he wants Zen and BeastMode to try it. Let's try to make it happen. I think that'd be an amazing vid and a huge kudos to the maker of Seer
24:03 Rapid saying that and just going "oops" in a kid way is perfect lmao
8:50 The disrespect had me laughing!
In the last video against seer you said it could be improved if they took opponents boost more often, i think they did it
This turned from hilarious to insanely wholesome as you guys were teaching Nitrous how to make things work, and he started learning.
4:32
Seer: hollup, let him cook
he waitedd🤧😮💨😭
@@Jermstain he was letting him cook tho
At 6:10 nitro gets shit on lmao
11:48 is when you reach acceptance. 😭😭
The way Nitrous says "oh noooo" is hilarious.
You can just tell how much Leth was enjoying getting to watch this series 😂
Seer vs Flakes when?
Rapid was locked in last time you both played. He still played amazing this time. But it was personal for him to play the bots before. So funny
That scoop at 6:05 was disgusting
We need Seer vs Zen and/or Joyo 😅😮
They fought joyo and Joyo got swept
@@obliviator2idk if I’m coping but it would’ve been different when he was with Zen instead. Maybe would’ve fare better
@@dh2054 perhaps, but I think that the difference isn’t made by switching oski out for zen, as I think their overall strategy needed to be changed. They just didn’t have a winning strategy against seer, and perhaps zen would’ve changed that but I think that without proper knowledge of how seer works (which is what joyo and oski were dealing with at the time), adapting in a bo5 is difficult
it needs to happen
These are the opponents i get when i try to have a chill casual game on my lunch break
it's strangely adorable hearing Nitrous ask "You want me to try anything different, Jalen?" like a younger brother asking for advice lol
His new sparring parter is going to be a bot? Botamyr for RLCS, 2024
Not gonna lie I just started watching you not too long ago but you are
By far my favorite content creator thank you for the laughs 🙏
hi leth ur my fav yt its so satisfing seeing u and ur friends play
He wasnt even playing dude
Lol idk why but i love watching people trying to beat BOTS. Great video
Not gonna lie I get a little joy watching them beat everyone 😂 you need to rename and set them on all the smurfs
2:50 rapid saying the f word!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
Beastmode and Zen is unlikely to happen but Dralii and ExoTiik from BDS just won Feer and Johnny's 2v2 tournament so they should go next.
You can see the tactic to beating these bots is driving really close and playing aggressive without fully commiting, causing seer to keep jumping then you counterattack.
By the last game muscle memory kicked in and they were flipping into the ball as if its a ranked game then getting walked on💀
Recommendation for a follow up version of this. I think the human players should be able to see the bots through the ball to make this a fair comparison. If the bots are really using player positioning data to make decisions then they can technically see through the ball too. Im sure the players could be more consistent with perfectly timed flicks and other things if they had the same information as the bots do. The players should be able to see the bot’s boost too.
You literally cannot get as much information as the bots do. The bots have every single boost pads timer on the map so they know when each pad will spawn for each player. They can see the location, rotation, velocity, and angular velocity of every single car on the field and the ball. They can see each players controller input. They can tell if all players still have their flip in the air. A human cannot process that much information, it would be like having a complete top down view of the game and watching from every single players perspective simultaneously.
trying to make a human vs bot match "fair" is missing the point entirely. bots and humans can each do things that the other obviously can't do.
that being said, a mod allowing you to see players through the ball more effectively would be cool.
Thanks for the replies both of you. I understand your points that it can never be fair and I agree. And I’m not saying that the point of this video was for it to be fair. Im just wondering what it may look like if the players had some of the advantages that the bots do. Excuse my huge lack of understanding of how these models are trained. But my understanding is that feeding the bot player boost data and car positioning data which would not be visible to the player is a crutch to enhance the efficacy of the training, and not a requirement. While training a bot with data that is limited more closely to what a player would have may not be feasible at this time (location, rotation, velocity, and angular velocity of every car and ball visible on the screen, and having to infer everything off screen that a human would have to), I just thought it would be interesting to bring it closer by giving the player more information than they would normally have. “Fair” was not the right word so apologies for that.
Tbf to the bot, all of these things ‘could’ be known by human players as well granted with good communication. Boost timers are simple enough, and amount of boost could be estimated by a human based on watching every pass they pass over and how much they are boosting. It’s just far too much information to actually follow mid game.
You should do a game where its seer's vs seer's. I wanna see how they play against each other
When’s seer vs dark?
Just wait till they master pinches, that shit is going to be terrifying
Version 8 is probably coming out in a month…
Dude! I'd watch vids of you training with various people against Seer, especially as it improves alongside you o.o That's a series right there! Road to SSSL
Is it possible to have a 2v2 with them on different teams? Like seer 1 and leth vs rapid and seer 2?
yes, there was a showmatch of seer + kiernan vs seer + toxiic
These bot matches are so fun to watch
I kept laughing about Leth's support while they got smoked. “No…you guys are just chillin.” “Well you have one goal. That's already one more than you got last game.”
I would love to see a zen/beast mode team up against these 2. Or even either one. Or even just to have either in a vid with you would be dope.
Seer is a higher version then when you played him last. Definitely it is making progress.
It's the same version
@@hideralduhami It's a version with more iterations. It's quite a bit better after the changes Ultra has made
@@sebseb6799 this is the same as last week
Idk why he struggled with these two bots..... Seer needs to up his game a bit tbh
The missed opportunity for seeing seers in 3s. Boost pads would always be empty
This is effing hilarious 😂 😂
Love the vids, keep it up
I need to see RW9 put to the true test against Seer. That player is so great and so consistant at simple powerful mechanics that he could actually take down seer
I GET COMPARED TO BOTS YOU GET COMPARED TO BOTS WE ARE NOT THE SAME
I really wish they would encode a trash talk mode where once Seer scores, its says 2EZ, or what a save, or anything of the sort. Not all the time, but occasionally....
They're almost perfect...they just need to be in the Esper🎉
So rapid's name is David?
Crazy Nitros didn't understand fundamental plays and to avoid hard challenging at first.
Seer vs flakes
7:47 Leth is unfortunately a disabled feature :(
U can do vidio "How many people it takes to beat 2 bots"
Its easier said than done 😂
Yoo early to a leth video!! Keep up the great content!!
If I was a pro player, I'd be training against this thing as much as possible, if I was an org I'd pay for exclusivity lmfao The amount of restraint and game knowledge you can learn from this bot is astronomical honestly.
appjack said he doesn't think it's close enough to a human player to be useful for training. though Ripple probably is
Me too
Nice
Zen rw9, zen vatira, chronic beastmode, rw9 nwpo.
The only duos I can think of that might be able to manage
@@danielkrucekjr.4439 toxiic + kiernan beat it 3-1
atomic + tox beat it 3-0
trk + nwpo beat it 3-1
retals + appjack beat it 3-2
it's really about playstyle
Funny them referring to bot as he lol. Its an it bro 😂❤
I think you reverse sweep this… sees there’s only 5 min left in the video
hi Leth
yo
This just pisses me off... these are 100% being used in ranked right now, not a chance these incompetent devs are preventing it. Practically impossible to know if it's a bot and claiming it is would get you called paranoid by the entire community. Thanks to the bot community for ruining the best game we ever had. Thanks to the dev's for allowing them to continue doing it. In what world did they not realize this is the result? RIP RL
they are not being used in ranked because no one has the code except ultrawide (and now leth apparently). psyonix has banned bot developers from posting it for this reason. they could probably do an anticheat but epic doesn't care about any game except fortnite so they'd rather be lazy and just tell bot developers not to post it.
hello
7:05 ... isnt that like ... faking in general? I thought he would've known that when going for a fake lol :P
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Why am I always first
9mins 500 views, bro fell off
I need bots like this in the actual game. It would be a much better way of practicing than the bots they have and i could do it offline.
maybe not like this good though lmao, just get yourself 0% ball possession lol
@@Renshyra what better way to learn than being beat by someone way better than you?
But yes they need more levels, even their unfair bots doing 4v1 isnt a challenge. Theyre pro level bots are easily beaten by bronze players. Makes their bots pretty useless when it comes to training.
@@itzkiblo The best training in rocket league is literally no opponent.
If you never have the possession of the ball you do not get better.
@@Toutong_ thats not true lol. Maybe if you need training with ball control but you have to train blocking shots, dealing with other people's flicks or air dribbles, shooting on the net with a defender, or just learning how to do things while an opponent is on the field trying to rush you.
Its why pros and coaches talk about the best way to get better is to just play online, specifically 1v1.
@@itzkiblo Pros and coaches say that the best way to get better is freeplay and 1v1.
Strangely enough the 2 modes with the highest possession of the ball, do you think it is a coincidence ?
11:45 that was amazing, Rapids reaction was just the best
The bots are missing the most important mechanic, toxic quick chat
11:07 nitrous mental breakdown
That 30 something second long sequence was so funny 😂
I died laughing watching this, nitrous was getting so tilted 😂😂😂
I wish we had access to this. It would be fun to get stomped by a skill level 99.9 percent of us won't reach. AI helped develop the games of chess and poker with new strats; I wish RL would find a surefire way to keep cheaters from using it online so we can have high level bots back. Leth can you help push this and make this happen somehow? It would even be cool to have a slider to adjust their 'reaction time' and other settings. instead of 0. Would actually make it great training if you could drop it to 150-200ms and make their ability to know your exact boost lessened. I think RL is working on an anticheat right? Couldnt the game run private lobbies for custom game modes and bots and have that be seperated from AC protected game modes
Seer plays like a gc3 that never really trained mechanics that much but has super human reaction time and game awareness
Nothing but tears lmfao.
2:47 the rare Danny miss edit
Crazy they dont pull "fakes" they just react that fast
Leth, u on LANdon Major currently? 🎉🎉🎉
bro i can actually learn from these bots tho\
those bots are definitely trolling
are you going to post your series against seer with skippy
Eventually there will be AI in RLCS, AI running the event itself, and even AI spectators 🤦♂️🤣
Wouldn’t it be sweet if there was like some kind of “boss” that you had to beat in order to progress in MMR or a story/ladder mode that you could try and defeat as high level bot as possible. Each with different achievement/titles!
Wow those bots are actually insane. It’s crazy how people code these bots to do this much insane mechanics.
how can u play against these seer v7 bots i can play againt the regular seer bots but they cant do areals they only dribble to flick shot?
They need to program the bots to use toxic quick chats
Was anyone else trying to figure out a B.S. way to beat them
Need to see bumpo and woody try these bots. Can't dunk if you're dead.
Can I play ugenst you lol
How do you play against bots with your friends ?????
Nitrous is So impatient When challenging Seer's flicks.
Awesome video. I LOVE the seer challenges!
Does anyone know how I can play aginst these bots with my freinds because it looks horrible but fun.
Awesome hes letting you use it, maybe now we can get some more NA showmatches.
Yo leth keep up with he great work
Pls pin me😊
He should program the bots to score on themselves if they are up 7-0
20 mins a day training against seer
Can anyone play against them?
No
This is terrifying