Khelif got losses when Khelif was a teen and a new boxer. That's not unusual even for teenage male boxers. Now that Khelif is allegedly a fully grown adult man at 25 years old and is a more experienced boxer they are going to have many more wins. There were multiple complaints ever since Khelif entered the adult woman's boxing circuit in 2018. These complaints came from female boxers, coaches and trainers. This started before the IBA even got involved and ordered independent lab testing on Khelif.
the „corrupt“ IBA ignored it before 2020, the new „non corrupt“ IBA leadership did gender testing in 2022/2023 „Imane Khelif has been participating in the IBA competitions since 2018, and Lin Yu-ting has competed since 2017. Current IBA management, having been in leadership since December 2020, has been on top of the problem from the very first IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships they conducted in 2022. IBA cannot comment on the previous iterations and lack of leadership actions in this regard. Following many complaints from several coaches, boxers agreed to gender testing.“
@OneTheBlue no, you can read this yourself in the published mails and letters to the IOC. Khelif and Yu-ting could really simple clear this if they would publish a test for about 200$.
The thing a lot of people ignore is the fact that it’s illegal to be gay and trans in her country. So why would the state send her to be their representative at the Olympics?
Opportunism. Exactly as you said, being LGBT+ is illegal in most of the Muslim countries so they are hypocrites when they support Imane Khelif just for an Olympic gold medal while they keep persecuting LGBT+ people.
Opportunism. Exactly as you said being LGBT in most of the Muslim countries is illegal so they are hypocrites when they support Imane Khelif just for an Olympic gold medal while they are still persecuting LGBT people.
I’d just like to give my perspective as a scientist here. Having elevated testosterone as a woman does not make you a man at all. The difference in average testosterone between men and women is extremely large. My testosterone level is 0.2 nmol/L and my husbands is 25 nmol/L. So my husband has 125 times more testosterone than I do. An elevated testosterone for a woman could be something like 2 nmol/L and that’s still 100 times less testosterone than an average man. Elevated testosterone might give a woman slightly more muscle mass and maybe a slightly deeper voice or make them a bit more hairy, but not even close to being classed as a man. So if the elevated testosterone is what they are basing this on then this whole argument that she is a man is absolute nonsense. There are millions of women with elevated testosterone and many have no idea. As for the XY chromosomes that’s a different story, however I haven’t seen any confirmed evidence that she has XY chromosomes.
Are you a biologist? Are you an athlete? Also they are not going to show you the test as it is breach of the patient's privacy. Khelif would have to authorize those labs and the IBA to release the results. Khelif refuses to do so. Also the tests came from two independent labs that are actually accredited by the world anti-doping association (WADA).The labs are saying that Khelif is a biological man. Not the IBA.
@@JamesMMcCann No I am not. You can do the research yourself. You can literally go to the IBA's website or google. I'm also not playing these games with people like you. I actually box, am an athlete and an avid boxing fan. I know you aren't. This is just the latest bandwagon people like you jump on without having any knowledge of the sport or the boxing world.
your discussion has no point. The tests were about chromosome eligibility; and his coach said that Imane Khelif has problems not only with testosterone but also with chromosomes. You can see from a kilometer away that he is a man, is that really how you treat us?
It is misleading to bring up Imane Khelif into a discussion about trans people competing in women’s sports as she was born and raised a female, proof is all over the internet, she did not steal the gold from anyone. She won it because she had been training hard for years, built herself up as she lost 9 times previously to women. Thank goodness her country folk did not fall for the lies peddled by the Russian led IBA who disqualified Imane Khelif without providing any evidence so that their Russian boxer could keep her title. They have been banned because of corruption and bribery. Imane has had all the necessary tests and fully qualified to compete. Sadly, there is an underlying trend of oppressing women who are too strong, under the guise of protecting women, this usually affects more women from the global south especially Africa, who are naturally stronger and don’t necessarily adhere to ‘western standards’ of femininity. Maybe more scientific research is needed instead of labelling them as men or DSD when they clearly have FEMALE parts.
It's clear you don't box, aren't' an athlete or a boxing fan. You don't give a crap about this sport and you don't even know what happens in the IBA. You're an activist and that's obvious.
@mayasmith9650 you mean Algeria had bribed the old IBA leadership that their wolf in sheep’s cloothing could show the voge Western World how dumb they are? they even can not recognize a man in women boxing a defend the man.
@mayasmith9650 i see absolutely no female parts when i look at Khelif but a grown male. i read the letters and mails to Khelif and the IOC with XY, male karyotype my conclusion as therapist since the 80s, XY and 100% male physical appearance, it is a man.
She should explain why she was disqualified from 2023 World championship. And she could've have challenged that decision as well. Instead Imane is suing everyone...!!!
Khelif owes the medical teams the tests. Also Khelif will owe a judge a test if they keep pursuing criminal charges or a lawsuit against JK Rowling and Elon Musk.
For real bruh. When I was 16 I used to spar with an Olympic silver medalist 25 year old woman who was 20lbs heavier than me and I had to go easy on her... No way a man who has trained boxing for years and years is going to lose 9 bouts to women
@@seajae3622 You're full of it. It is not unusual for a male teenage boxer who is inexperienced to lose to an older female boxer who is experienced. The difference comes when that male becomes fully developed as Khelif did at 25 yrs old and starts getting a lot of boxing experience.
This is a very disappointing part of the interview, Vlad is dangling a subject that Ken doesn’t want to get into. Even the way Vlad is trying to get Ken to disparage trans people is disturbing. Bad move from Vlad, I’m glad Ken didn’t take the bait.
@@Peopleofthesun386 She's a woman but failed gender eligibility test? That's interesting. Once facts become "crap" then the issue is not with the one speaking it
I think he's being more respectful than many others about this case, and it's true that no one knows the exact truth. I don't however think Imane should ever have to share her medical information if she doesn't want to. I've always found it a bit nasty whenever people are accused of faking a disability, illness etc and they are pressured to reveal medical info about themselves. I do think maybe IOC could have done tests (did they?) Also in sports, there's always going to be advantages, that's why basket-players are typically taller, they have an easier time getting the ball in the basket
The problem is they are required to share it with the medical teams of the sporting competitions they are competing in. The IBA banned Khelif because two independent lab tests were done stating that Khelief was a biological man. Also the IBA did this quietly initially and allowed Khelif to appeal, which Khelif chose not to. The only reason this became public is Khelif chose to enter the Olympics knowing their test results showed that they were a biological man over a year ago. The IBA had no choice but to make an announcement because not only is it unfair to biological women but it is incredibly dangerous. Khelif is the one who chose to enter the Olympics despite knowing the truth. Khelif is now trying to press criminal charges in France against Elon Musk and JK Rowling for saying they are a man. All this will do is a force a judge to obtain the lab results from the IBA and then do another genetic test. Then the whole world will finally know the truth. Khelif didn't have to do this. When they were banned after two different tests, they could have just either 1) entered the men's boxing competitions or 2) not enter at all and find something else to do with their life. Now not only is this becoming a huge scandal, the World Boxing Organization is now choosing to investigate whether Khelif is a man or woman. So this is more public scrutiny for khelif. Also being a biological man is not an "advantage" like being tall basketball player. It's literally an entirely different biological sex and gender, which means this person's entire physiology is different and they are not a woman. They should compete in the men's competitions.
Dude the girl she 😂beat😂 had like 15 losses already so like chill out 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 Like she quit after a couple punches She’s CLEARLY not built for it This stuff is diabolically hilarious
Not to mention that none of the other competitors who Imane beat have complained, so the only people who are up in arms are, frankly put, weirdos who are veering ever-so-closely to wanting to check genitals and have DNA and chromosome tests just to make sure that biological males and biological females are competing against their own sex. Made even more ironic considering these would be the first people losing their shit if any schools district required such testing methodology for THEIR daughters or nieces.
@@joeblack2809 one of them do. Claressa spoke on the Fight on the Breakfast Club and she mentioned 15 losses. Just can’t remember which girl…. Either way. The girl quit after a few punches. That girl is a woman.. That 1-10 scale that exist I don’t want to rank her but in the words of Corey Holcomb “if you below a 5, you ain’t even worth a conversation baby”
@@ceeIoc so did the people for Breakdancing And this is supposed to be “the best” from all around the world??? 🧐 Wilder also made the Olympics with his boxing ability 🗣️🎙️chill out‼️
There were two independent labs done on Khelif. The labs are saying Khelif is a biological man. The international boxing association (IBA) only ordered the labs. They didn't conduct them. So the labs are independent from the IBA. The IBA made the decision to ban Khelif because of the results of the both of those independent labs stating that Khelif was a biological man. Also for those saying the IBA engaging in corruption on this, please explain why would the IBA go to such lengths to focus on Khelif or Yu-Ting? It doesn't make any sense. The IBA didn't just release a press release, they had a press conference, and they spoke out against the IOC. Not only that many female boxers, coaches and trainers complained about Khelif ever since Khelif entered the adult women's boxing circuit in 2018. For example, female boxer, Joanna Nuware, is now speaking out and stating that she sparred against Khelif and they couldn't handle Khelif's strength. Nuware stated that it was clear that Khelif was a man. Do you all really thing that the IBA, two labs, female boxers, coaches are really orchestrating some grand plot to focus on Khelif and Yu-Ting? That makes no sense.
@faben read the mails and letters on the IBA Site „ IBA clarifies the facts: the letter to the IOC regarding two ineligible boxers was sent and acknowledged August 5th, 2024 / IBA“
@@faben5161 if a bunch of people from all over the world accuse you of belonging to the opposite sex of what you say you are, don't you go and do a chromosome test to prove them wrong? It costs only $200 and is available to anyone.
@@shremich4583 Exactly. This is what the World Boxing Organization (WBO) is saying and the WBO is doing further investigations into Khelif given what's going on.
The whole point that everyone seems to be missing is the fact that she has a mans bone density and went through male puberty. Which means there is a large advantage, thats why the last 2 contenders where both Intersex.
Recap: 1)Imane Khelif was disqualified for 2023 Women’s World Boxing Championships after failing gender-affirming DNA tests conducted by International Boxing Association 2)The IOC recently changed its rules to allow anybody to compete based on the gender on their passport. This would allow Khelif to compete as a woman even if male. 3)Algeria is a Muslim country. Islamically, unambiguous intersex people are considered as whatever they appear to be. In the case of ambiguity, then there are criteria to try to determine what the person might be.
@@JamesMMcCann No they didn't. I box. There were complaints about Khelif since Khelif entered the adult woman's boxing circuit in 2018. This was before the IBA was even involved. Female boxers, coaches, trainers complained about Khelif being a biological man and having abnormal strength. Joana Nuware is one of those boxers who is now speaking out about their experience with Khelif.
@@soumias04 the chromosome and bone density test to see if he went through male puberty and it is resolved in a few days. Why doesn't he do this? Simple, because it is what is very visible to those who are not ideologues, namely Imane Khelif is a man.
@Peopleofthesun386 you don’t get it. a XY DSD man has more punching power than a female. Science Newsfrom research organizations Why males pack a powerful punch Upper arm strength, different from females', may have specialized for forceful blow's Date: February 5, 2020 Source: University of Utah „It's already known that males' upper bodies, on average, have 75% more muscle mass and 90% more strength than females'. But it's not known why.“ „But even with roughly uniform levels of fitness, the males' average power during a punching motion was 162% greater than females', with the least-powerful man still stronger than the most powerful woman.“
@peopleofthesun Khelif’s Trainer Confirms “Problem With Chromosomes” As Spanish National Boxing Team Commissioner Reveals That Khelif Was Considered Too Dangerous To Train Against Women By Bryndís Blackadder August 11, 2024
This dude is an original. Traveled the world fighting before it was popular and paid well. Awesome dude and proud he’s from near Stockton where I was born
how can there de an attentive if they weigh the same and same category,it's best better tecnic,the better you go down,there is no trans if there are telling you that she is a WOMAN with more TESTOSTERONE
there was a woman that fought against men in boxing and i told folks this aint right this woman is about to get hurt real bad all it takes is the right one.
I know of a transman (biological woman) who tried and they got eviscerated on the men's boxing circuit. Super dumb and dangerous to allow that person to compete against men.
a few days agoo was the third and last bout. Stefan Raab, 57, 87 kg, TV Showmaster Regina Halmich, 48, 63 kg, former female boxer Raab had no air in the first round but Halmich had to be careful, with a lucky punch Raab could knockout Halmich without effort
That girl Imani has been competing for a while now and she's lost many matches before, they didn't come out and say the test that she failed all this chromosomes things you are saying is speculation
I’m gonna be the bad guy and say it Ken was (if we’re ranking from scale 1-5. 1 being GSP Jones etc & 5 being Crazy Horse Bennet with 40+ losses) Ken falls around 4 teetering 3 He lost I believe all his big fights… including to a man 100lbs lighter than him and Ken had experience at that time in Bjj as well He gets too much respect as a “good fighter”. You respect anyone who fights but Ken wasn’t like that
Nobody is out here calling him the goat but he had a very respectable career and was a former ufc champion, which a lot of people can't say. But what does any of that have to do with this clip though?
Background: The women’s gold medalist was disqualified from the 2023 IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships after failing unspecified gender eligibility tests conducted by the International Boxing Association(IBA), the leading global authority on amateur boxing. Furthermore, the IOC(International Olympic Committee) has recently changed the rules to emphasize non-discrimination and allows athletes to participate based on the gender on their passport. The IBA would have had the authority to have the ultimate say and disqualify Khelif but IOC has suspended the IBA from the Olympics. Under this premise Khelif could have male DNA and still compete for women’s gold. Lastly, Algeria is a Muslim country. Islamically, unambiguous intersex people are considered as whatever they appear to be. In the case of ambiguity, then there are criteria to try to determine what the person might be.
@Peopleofthesun386 in germany you can now change every year your gender, but genetics will always show the real gender XX or XY Khelif, Yu-ting, Semenya are XY with DSD and males
This woman got 7 losses and vlad talking like she unbeatable. Smh
Khelif got losses when Khelif was a teen and a new boxer. That's not unusual even for teenage male boxers.
Now that Khelif is allegedly a fully grown adult man at 25 years old and is a more experienced boxer they are going to have many more wins. There were multiple complaints ever since Khelif entered the adult woman's boxing circuit in 2018. These complaints came from female boxers, coaches and trainers. This started before the IBA even got involved and ordered independent lab testing on Khelif.
@@9395gb Source?
the „corrupt“ IBA ignored it before 2020, the new „non corrupt“ IBA leadership did gender testing in 2022/2023
„Imane Khelif has been participating in the IBA competitions since 2018, and Lin Yu-ting has competed since 2017. Current IBA management, having been in leadership since December 2020, has been on top of the problem from the very first IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships they conducted in 2022. IBA cannot comment on the previous iterations and lack of leadership actions in this regard.
Following many complaints from several coaches, boxers agreed to gender testing.“
@@shremich4583 Did you make that story up?
@OneTheBlue
no, you can read this yourself in the published mails and letters to the IOC.
Khelif and Yu-ting could really simple clear this if they would publish a test for about 200$.
The thing a lot of people ignore is the fact that it’s illegal to be gay and trans in her country. So why would the state send her to be their representative at the Olympics?
Opportunism. Exactly as you said, being LGBT+ is illegal in most of the Muslim countries so they are hypocrites when they support Imane Khelif just for an Olympic gold medal while they keep persecuting LGBT+ people.
Opportunism. Exactly as you said being LGBT in most of the Muslim countries is illegal so they are hypocrites when they support Imane Khelif just for an Olympic gold medal while they are still persecuting LGBT people.
Because they can't win a medal at anything else this time
@@davidrock6038 Algeria got a gold medal in gymnastics
@@davidrock6038 they have other medals lmao.
I’d just like to give my perspective as a scientist here. Having elevated testosterone as a woman does not make you a man at all. The difference in average testosterone between men and women is extremely large. My testosterone level is 0.2 nmol/L and my husbands is 25 nmol/L. So my husband has 125 times more testosterone than I do. An elevated testosterone for a woman could be something like 2 nmol/L and that’s still 100 times less testosterone than an average man. Elevated testosterone might give a woman slightly more muscle mass and maybe a slightly deeper voice or make them a bit more hairy, but not even close to being classed as a man. So if the elevated testosterone is what they are basing this on then this whole argument that she is a man is absolute nonsense. There are millions of women with elevated testosterone and many have no idea.
As for the XY chromosomes that’s a different story, however I haven’t seen any confirmed evidence that she has XY chromosomes.
Are you a biologist? Are you an athlete?
Also they are not going to show you the test as it is breach of the patient's privacy. Khelif would have to authorize those labs and the IBA to release the results. Khelif refuses to do so.
Also the tests came from two independent labs that are actually accredited by the world anti-doping association (WADA).The labs are saying that Khelif is a biological man. Not the IBA.
@@9395gb can you link to the two independent labs, and where you got this info please?
@@JamesMMcCann No I am not. You can do the research yourself. You can literally go to the IBA's website or google.
I'm also not playing these games with people like you. I actually box, am an athlete and an avid boxing fan. I know you aren't. This is just the latest bandwagon people like you jump on without having any knowledge of the sport or the boxing world.
your discussion has no point. The tests were about chromosome eligibility; and his coach said that Imane Khelif has problems not only with testosterone but also with chromosomes. You can see from a kilometer away that he is a man, is that really how you treat us?
@@9395gb the LABS CANNOT make that kind of determination.... bro 😅 they just give you the results, the doctors INTERPRET the results
It is misleading to bring up Imane Khelif into a discussion about trans people competing in women’s sports as she was born and raised a female, proof is all over the internet, she did not steal the gold from anyone. She won it because she had been training hard for years, built herself up as she lost 9 times previously to women.
Thank goodness her country folk did not fall for the lies peddled by the Russian led IBA who disqualified Imane Khelif without providing any evidence so that their Russian boxer could keep her title. They have been banned because of corruption and bribery.
Imane has had all the necessary tests and fully qualified to compete.
Sadly, there is an underlying trend of oppressing women who are too strong, under the guise of protecting women, this usually affects more women from the global south especially Africa, who are naturally stronger and don’t necessarily adhere to ‘western standards’ of femininity.
Maybe more scientific research is needed instead of labelling them as men or DSD when they clearly have FEMALE parts.
There has neen zero proof. Just heresay.
It's clear you don't box, aren't' an athlete or a boxing fan. You don't give a crap about this sport and you don't even know what happens in the IBA.
You're an activist and that's obvious.
@mayasmith9650
you mean Algeria had bribed the old IBA leadership that their wolf in sheep’s cloothing could show the voge Western World how dumb they are?
they even can not recognize a man in women boxing a defend the man.
@mayasmith9650
i see absolutely no female parts when i look at Khelif but a grown male.
i read the letters and mails to Khelif and the IOC with XY, male karyotype
my conclusion as therapist since the 80s, XY and 100% male physical appearance, it is a man.
@@shremich4583 It does not matter what you see that is a ridiculous assessment. She is a woman. Go fantasize about someone else
Why does she owe anyone a test? Such an ignorant, uneducated take.
She should explain why she was disqualified from 2023 World championship. And she could've have challenged that decision as well. Instead Imane is suing everyone...!!!
because the IBA banned Khelif and Yu-ting after 2 tests with XY and both are more male than female in what you can see.
Khelif owes the medical teams the tests. Also Khelif will owe a judge a test if they keep pursuing criminal charges or a lawsuit against JK Rowling and Elon Musk.
@@9395gb😂 they know that that is why they press charge they want money and she will give the results in time!
@soumias04 that's fine but the tests will be done by independent labs if a judge requisites it.
46-9 with 7Kos, that’s a woman dawg 😂
For real bruh. When I was 16 I used to spar with an Olympic silver medalist 25 year old woman who was 20lbs heavier than me and I had to go easy on her... No way a man who has trained boxing for years and years is going to lose 9 bouts to women
@@seajae3622 Here comes the experts lmao
Well she maybe a woman...but definitely on P.E.Ds that topic is up for debate
@@seajae3622 You're full of it. It is not unusual for a male teenage boxer who is inexperienced to lose to an older female boxer who is experienced. The difference comes when that male becomes fully developed as Khelif did at 25 yrs old and starts getting a lot of boxing experience.
Chromosomes never lie. Case closed.
We don't yet know what her keyrotype is because nobody has made that information public. It's all speculation at this point.
Chromosomes can't talk, therefore they can't lie. Im guessingyou wrote this because youthoughtit was profound. How many do you have?
Good thing there’s no evidence that she has XY 😂😂😂
ALGERIA DOES NOT PLAY ANY OF THAT TRANSGENDER STUFF DO SOME RESEARCH
@@ceeIoc they didn't name the exact test she failed that's why the Olympics allowed her back
This is a very disappointing part of the interview, Vlad is dangling a subject that Ken doesn’t want to get into. Even the way Vlad is trying to get Ken to disparage trans people is disturbing. Bad move from Vlad, I’m glad Ken didn’t take the bait.
How is he trying to get him to disparage anybody, they're just talking about biology
@@hueyfreeman5509 no he is cleary trying to bait Ken into talking crap about the trans community, this is a non issue Iman is a woman
@@Peopleofthesun386 She's a woman but failed gender eligibility test? That's interesting. Once facts become "crap" then the issue is not with the one speaking it
@@Peopleofthesun386 A woman who didn't pass the jender eligibility test though
@@Peopleofthesun386 And there's no "crap" to talk, you all just have an issue with biology
I think he's being more respectful than many others about this case, and it's true that no one knows the exact truth. I don't however think Imane should ever have to share her medical information if she doesn't want to. I've always found it a bit nasty whenever people are accused of faking a disability, illness etc and they are pressured to reveal medical info about themselves. I do think maybe IOC could have done tests (did they?)
Also in sports, there's always going to be advantages, that's why basket-players are typically taller, they have an easier time getting the ball in the basket
The problem is they are required to share it with the medical teams of the sporting competitions they are competing in. The IBA banned Khelif because two independent lab tests were done stating that Khelief was a biological man. Also the IBA did this quietly initially and allowed Khelif to appeal, which Khelif chose not to.
The only reason this became public is Khelif chose to enter the Olympics knowing their test results showed that they were a biological man over a year ago. The IBA had no choice but to make an announcement because not only is it unfair to biological women but it is incredibly dangerous. Khelif is the one who chose to enter the Olympics despite knowing the truth. Khelif is now trying to press criminal charges in France against Elon Musk and JK Rowling for saying they are a man. All this will do is a force a judge to obtain the lab results from the IBA and then do another genetic test. Then the whole world will finally know the truth.
Khelif didn't have to do this. When they were banned after two different tests, they could have just either 1) entered the men's boxing competitions or 2) not enter at all and find something else to do with their life. Now not only is this becoming a huge scandal, the World Boxing Organization is now choosing to investigate whether Khelif is a man or woman. So this is more public scrutiny for khelif.
Also being a biological man is not an "advantage" like being tall basketball player. It's literally an entirely different biological sex and gender, which means this person's entire physiology is different and they are not a woman. They should compete in the men's competitions.
if Imane Khelif went through male puberty, which is obvious to anyone who is not an ideologue, it does not mean advantage, it means fraud
My gf has elevated testosterone and she was born that way so biologically and scientifically still classified as female
Vlad trying to put words in Ken Shamrock’s mouth,mediocre interviewer
"Uneducation"😂
Dude the girl she 😂beat😂 had like 15 losses already so like chill out 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 Like she quit after a couple punches
She’s CLEARLY not built for it
This stuff is diabolically hilarious
Wait are you serious?!? That’s FUXKING hilarious lol 😂.
Not to mention that none of the other competitors who Imane beat have complained, so the only people who are up in arms are, frankly put, weirdos who are veering ever-so-closely to wanting to check genitals and have DNA and chromosome tests just to make sure that biological males and biological females are competing against their own sex.
Made even more ironic considering these would be the first people losing their shit if any schools district required such testing methodology for THEIR daughters or nieces.
She’s not built for it but made the Olympics somehow?
@@joeblack2809 one of them do. Claressa spoke on the Fight on the Breakfast Club and she mentioned 15 losses. Just can’t remember which girl….
Either way. The girl quit after a few punches.
That girl is a woman.. That 1-10 scale that exist
I don’t want to rank her but in the words of Corey Holcomb “if you below a 5, you ain’t even worth a conversation baby”
@@ceeIoc so did the people for Breakdancing
And this is supposed to be “the best” from all around the world??? 🧐
Wilder also made the Olympics with his boxing ability
🗣️🎙️chill out‼️
There were two independent labs done on Khelif. The labs are saying Khelif is a biological man. The international boxing association (IBA) only ordered the labs. They didn't conduct them. So the labs are independent from the IBA.
The IBA made the decision to ban Khelif because of the results of the both of those independent labs stating that Khelif was a biological man.
Also for those saying the IBA engaging in corruption on this, please explain why would the IBA go to such lengths to focus on Khelif or Yu-Ting? It doesn't make any sense. The IBA didn't just release a press release, they had a press conference, and they spoke out against the IOC. Not only that many female boxers, coaches and trainers complained about Khelif ever since Khelif entered the adult women's boxing circuit in 2018. For example, female boxer, Joanna Nuware, is now speaking out and stating that she sparred against Khelif and they couldn't handle Khelif's strength. Nuware stated that it was clear that Khelif was a man.
Do you all really thing that the IBA, two labs, female boxers, coaches are really orchestrating some grand plot to focus on Khelif and Yu-Ting? That makes no sense.
Where is the proof?
@faben
read the mails and letters on the IBA Site
„ IBA clarifies the facts: the letter to the IOC regarding two ineligible boxers was sent and acknowledged
August 5th, 2024 / IBA“
@@faben5161 if a bunch of people from all over the world accuse you of belonging to the opposite sex of what you say you are, don't you go and do a chromosome test to prove them wrong? It costs only $200 and is available to anyone.
Unsubstantiated.
@@shremich4583 IBA is a corrupted organization. Not legit.
How can she transition in Algeria?
Khelif is XY with DSD and is not transgender
@@shremich4583 Exactly. This is what the World Boxing Organization (WBO) is saying and the WBO is doing further investigations into Khelif given what's going on.
You always keep it interesting!
What ken said..
the burden of proof is actually on the accusers..
The whole point that everyone seems to be missing is the fact that she has a mans bone density and went through male puberty. Which means there is a large advantage, thats why the last 2 contenders where both Intersex.
Because the result would say that was a man
Recap:
1)Imane Khelif was disqualified for 2023 Women’s World Boxing Championships after failing gender-affirming DNA tests conducted by International Boxing Association
2)The IOC recently changed its rules to allow anybody to compete based on the gender on their passport. This would allow Khelif to compete as a woman even if male.
3)Algeria is a Muslim country. Islamically, unambiguous intersex people are considered as whatever they appear to be.
In the case of ambiguity, then there are criteria to try to determine what the person might be.
The IBA failed to show the proof of her failed test and the protocol they used to administer the test
IBA didn't have a problem with Khelif until she beat a Russian fighter.
@@Peopleofthesun386 The IBA had independent labs done on Khelif. The labs are saying Khelif is a biological man.
@@JamesMMcCann No they didn't. I box. There were complaints about Khelif since Khelif entered the adult woman's boxing circuit in 2018. This was before the IBA was even involved. Female boxers, coaches, trainers complained about Khelif being a biological man and having abnormal strength. Joana Nuware is one of those boxers who is now speaking out about their experience with Khelif.
@@9395gb Cool where are the test??? Why did they refused not only to show the test but the protocol???
Her father showed the birth certificate
191 Lehner Route
Didn’t surprise anybody? She lost in the last Olympics.
Jesus
Only one way to prove it 😂
4:40 Hector Bravo shoutout
LOL, he's a fraud just like Wes Watson. You guppies are so gullible.
You can never change what you were born to be. If God wanted your mother to have a girl, he wouldve gave her one.
How did Vlad get Ken Shamrock on here 👀
what ever happed to "drop trou" ...lol😂
She's born female people just haters
Did she show her birth certificate?
@user-pq4fc1mc7qGetting a test would take 30 minutes and then show the world and put it behind you. The fact it wasn't done speaks volumes.
@@mbvteleshaka4366yes and it's the same we have here in Algeria it's written FEMALE in the family record book.
@@soumias04 the chromosome and bone density test to see if he went through male puberty and it is resolved in a few days. Why doesn't he do this? Simple, because it is what is very visible to those who are not ideologues, namely Imane Khelif is a man.
@alanpina9128
XY (male) with DSD are often wrongly recognized as girl at birth if there is no doctor / clinic
thats a man end of
But doctors say she’s capable of giving birth. Therefore you’re wrong
Asking a washed up fighter about an international Olympian. Ok
Vlad Should Interview The Undertaker
The Italian boxer LIED and apologized to Imane.
That didn't happen.
angelina carini explained, that if the IOC allow Khelif to compete she has to accept that decission
@@shremich4583 So she thought Imane was a man because of how hard she hits??? Sounds like the Italian fighter is soft
@Peopleofthesun386
you don’t get it. a XY DSD man has more punching power than a female.
Science Newsfrom research organizations
Why males pack a powerful punch
Upper arm strength, different from females', may have specialized for forceful blow's
Date: February 5, 2020
Source: University of Utah
„It's already known that males' upper bodies, on average, have 75% more muscle mass and 90% more strength than females'. But it's not known why.“
„But even with roughly uniform levels of fitness, the males' average power during a punching motion was 162% greater than females', with the least-powerful man still stronger than the most powerful woman.“
@peopleofthesun
Khelif’s Trainer Confirms “Problem With Chromosomes” As Spanish National Boxing Team Commissioner Reveals That Khelif Was Considered Too Dangerous To Train Against Women
By Bryndís Blackadder August 11, 2024
My question is how did she lose to those other women 🤔I think she got like 9 losses
It's easy because he was still learning the boxing skills before his testosterone matured enough!!!
But they didn't retire megaglia and disqualify life
Does she wear a cup? When fighting?
If this man ever sat with those who know he'd know that high testosterone is common with anybody at the Olympics
not only testosterone is the problem with Imane Khelif :))
Exactly why we need to stop callin them woman when there not
This dude is an original. Traveled the world fighting before it was popular and paid well. Awesome dude and proud he’s from near Stockton where I was born
Going to apologize now, Vlad? Lol
how can there de an attentive if they weigh the same and same category,it's best better tecnic,the better you go down,there is no trans if there are telling you that she is a WOMAN with more TESTOSTERONE
Marlon and Shannon cookin vLad 😂😂😂😂
there was a woman that fought against men in boxing and i told folks this aint right this woman is about to get hurt real bad all it takes is the right one.
I know of a transman (biological woman) who tried and they got eviscerated on the men's boxing circuit. Super dumb and dangerous to allow that person to compete against men.
Regina Halmich a female boxer had a few showboxing events against Stefan Raab a male showmaster.
she said in a video, stop this nonsense men vs women
a few days agoo was the third and last bout.
Stefan Raab, 57, 87 kg, TV Showmaster
Regina Halmich, 48, 63 kg, former female boxer
Raab had no air in the first round but Halmich had to be careful, with a lucky punch Raab could knockout Halmich without effort
That girl Imani has been competing for a while now and she's lost many matches before, they didn't come out and say the test that she failed all this chromosomes things you are saying is speculation
if you go to compete with women at the beginning, do you think you won't lose??
It calls for gender reveal party
He said “SHE never proved SHE wasn’t a man”
loooooool
djvlad, you're killing it with your content
It’s a fucking mutant!!!!
She lost before to women before....the girl she faced was just trash
Ann wolfe woulda beat her blindfolded lol
I’m gonna be the bad guy and say it
Ken was (if we’re ranking from scale 1-5. 1 being GSP Jones etc & 5 being Crazy Horse Bennet with 40+ losses)
Ken falls around 4 teetering 3
He lost I believe all his big fights… including to a man 100lbs lighter than him and Ken had experience at that time in Bjj as well
He gets too much respect as a “good fighter”. You respect anyone who fights but Ken wasn’t like that
Nobody is out here calling him the goat but he had a very respectable career and was a former ufc champion, which a lot of people can't say. But what does any of that have to do with this clip though?
Your slow
@@TienMostPowerfulEarthlingOfAll little Diick boy do t play with me.. you pissing on your balls when you go pee
Background:
The women’s gold medalist was disqualified from the 2023 IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships after failing unspecified gender eligibility tests conducted by the International Boxing Association(IBA), the leading global authority on amateur boxing.
Furthermore, the IOC(International Olympic Committee) has recently changed the rules to emphasize non-discrimination and allows athletes to participate based on the gender on their passport. The IBA would have had the authority to have the ultimate say and disqualify Khelif but IOC has suspended the IBA from the Olympics. Under this premise Khelif could have male DNA and still compete for women’s gold.
Lastly, Algeria is a Muslim country. Islamically, unambiguous intersex people are considered as whatever they appear to be.
In the case of ambiguity, then there are criteria to try to determine what the person might be.
Fellas you need to do your research before you get caught up in the same lawsuit. Was she a Trans fighter in the Tokyo Olympics too.
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*Failminism*
Best strategy to get gold , be a man and compete against women. Got it 📝
that never happen
Khelif, Yu-ting, Caster Semanya and more over the decades of the Olympic Games since the 1930s
@@shremich4583 And yet no proof
Its. A guy this is ajoke you are what you are born
She is a woman
XY chromosomes.
I only want to watch the best. If a woman can't compete with a man I'm not watching.
There are not more to say that this : XY = MAN
That is not an issue though. Iman is a woman
@@Peopleofthesun386 U must go to the school , watching videos on your phone produces extreme ignorance
@@Casiopeo-c8x Cool but Iman is a woman you have no proof of anything else
@Peopleofthesun386
in germany you can now change every year your gender, but genetics will always show the real gender XX or XY
Khelif, Yu-ting, Semenya are XY with DSD and males
@pesotaxin