IC-7000 vs IC-7100
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2013
- A no holds barred, cage match between the Icom IC-7000 vs the IC-7100. See how these two great mobile HF/VHF/UHF radios stack up beside each other in an unscripted competition. Who will win, Team Tommy or Team George?
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For us Brits, its no contest.
7100 all the way, its got 50 watts on 4 metres (70 MHz)
Wow, the great Ray Novak. Tommy and George three icons
I personally own a 7000 and love it. I also have two 7100s in my office and am very impressed by them. I have heard people complain about digging in the menus to find features on the mike. I think most people don't use the buttons on the mike. Personally, I use the mike buttons quite a bit and ordered the HM-151 mikes for the 7100s. Other than the additional expense, the mike has no advantage on the 7000. The 7100 is the clear ease-of-use winner for those that don't want to read hundreds of pages of manual.
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When Icom discontinued the IC-7000 they shot themselves in the privates!
Moronic move without offering something better to take it's place - of the SAME GENRE!
I love mine, (new driver board) & plan to buy 5-10 more over the next year or three.
Interestingly, the older model's display looks leaps better than than the new IC-7100 model. I think they were trying to use LEDs similar the the once popular IC-706 series, however the IC-7000 display was fantastic for a small sized mobile rig.
Im still keeping an eye out for a good used 7000 Icom really left an opening in the market for Yaesu to fill with the 7000's form factor and HF/VHF/UHF. Its a simple radio thats not too bulky. If Icom re released the 7000 but with GPS and DStar it would sell out every where Keep everything else the same.
IC-7100 Looks cool but the only Useful feature I see over the 7000 is the D-Star, I personally owned a 7000 for many years and a lot of the functions can be done easily from the microphone, which they chose to leave out of the video. Also I imagine trying to accurately touch the right spot on a touch screen while driving down the road could be difficult, especially if you don't have little fingers.
The 7000 looks great. The 7100 looks like a Clock Radio...
After 3 month of solid use The 7100 is easier to use, has more operational features, the NB works a million times better out on the road Its a real mobile rig and just as good as a back up for a 7800
D-Star All bands and works on HF a treat Bloody awesome radio. I own both !
7100 is years better Computer literate Really easy to USB program via ICF and MS Excel
Pete VK3TQ Icom manager 2006-2009 Australia
Basic comparison between the two rigs. Nice as a starter.
both tasty rigs, think i'll save up an git them both!
Such a great video.
"I can't hear those colors..."
Just got a ic 7000 today. Still learning the menu operations so thanks for this video. Also where can I pick up a external video monitor like the one shown in this video?
Thanks
I brought a brand new Icom 7000 back in 2006-7 and loved it then regret selling it. Definitely 100% the Icom 7000 over the 7100 all day no discussion. I've just recently brought another 7000 used but in superb condition to go alongside my Icom 756Pro 3 as well as use it mobile of course. I personally think Icom let them selfs down when they released the 7100 because as some others have said it looks more like it's been designed for base station use than mobile because of the hefty display and big main unit, either way, I'll always be an Icom fan over any other make of radios whatever they decided to manufacture. They should make an upgraded version of the 7000 as the 7100 definitely isn't that but Icom if you ever read this please please bring out a radio very similar to the 7000 with a few extras e.g touch screen, more watts, etc or even bring back the 7000 again but as always keep up the great work and your already superb customer sales\after sales.
Same for my ik4mee
Two cool radio's. An aqaintance has just got one of the 7100, so i'm hoping to try it myself :)
I have also wondered for a long time the operation of "REF Adjust" in menu number 51.
When I speak in USB with other people I have to modify the "REF Adjust" when the frequency is always the same in VHF and UHF.
In HF there are no differences in USB in "REF Adjust".
I've always wondered why that option exists in the menu
What make 7000 unique for mobile HF is the Voice Squelch! 7100 does not have it! And this is why I love this radio for mobile HF. Less fatigue... 73 de YO3HJV
so, other than D-star and the interface, is there any features that the 7100 has that the 7000 doesn't? i'm considering either of these, or possibly a yaesu 857D. budget is around 600/700$ for a used model.
my main thing is, does either have a better filter than the other? or is it almost identical radio?
I'd totally recommend getting the Icom 7000 over the 7100 any day without hesitation and the 7000 has more than enough features. Definitely don't go for a Yaesu 857D as they lack a lot in comparison to the 7000 and even 7100. I believe that the filters used in the 7000 are those used in the Icom 7800 reading up on the 7000 and that's a £10000 radio. Hope this helps.
For $1600 (street price), I would expect the 7100 to have a color touch display or at least a video output. Im not liking the face design as it feels more like it was designed for base station use, than mobile use. Other than that, overall I like the capabilities of the 7100
I would like to know if this radio or 100 watts receiver. or q rp radio at ten watts too 14 watts.
I wish the big three would step it up and make a radio for this century
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is the icom ic-7100 firmware upgradable for future updates
I was seriously considering the 7000 because of ease of vehicle installation and that many of my radio club members either have one or are very familiar with it. But this is now all moot because Icom has discontinued the 7000... boo!
Does the IC 7100 have a record function?
Yes it does.
Gentlmen, I need a little advice from you. I own both the 7000 and 7300. I get reports that the 7000 has a dull audio, too much bass, no midrage and high frequencies, just the oposite reports for the magnificent audio of the 7300. Can you recommend something to get rid of all this dull modulation? Thank you and 73 de SV1SLB
There's a write up about this issue on the 7000 it states the following settings:
MIC Gain 50%.
Comp set to 5.
100Hz as the low freq cutoff.
2900Hz as the high freq cutoff.
I recommend trying these settings first failing that you can try the Icom MH-151 Mod below.
Optional modification for the Icom MH-151 Microphone of replacing the C30 ceramic capacitor.
The C30 capacitor should be replaced with a 0,22 F SMD ceramic capacitor called C3216X7R1H224K. Size/type is 3216 or 1206 (3,2 x 1,6 mm). (also named C1206C224K5RAC C-7025) ELFA part number : 65-777-04
Replace the C30 capacitor. It is a bipolar capacitor, so there is no + or - on it.
After the Mic Mod use the following settings:
Mic gain at 80 - 100 %, COMP on level 1 only. Try these setting for transmitter bandwidth (TBW):
W(L) 100
W(H) 2900 W= Ragchew
M(L) 200
M(H) 2900 M= DX
N(L) 300
N(H) 2700 N= DX (sounds almost like Heil HC-4)
This way you will have good settings for both Ragchew and DX. Only use COMP if necessary
Note ! If your IC-7000 has been modified internally (microphone preamp.) you will probably not notice any difference with this modification. This is the case with most IC-7000 radios sold in Scandinavia. They sound good in SSB-mode, but a little low on bass in FM-mode. There is no need to modify these radios any further (leave them as they are). If you on the other hand are planning on buying a new IC-7000, ask for an unmodified radio (microphone preamp.) but let the dealer replace the C30 capacitor inside the HM-151 for you.
@@Westy-1 Thank you for all the provided details. It's an unmodified model, everything as assembled from the factory.
There is no preamp in the mic.
I will follow your proposal regarding the C 30 and the rest settings and see what happens.
Thank you so much again. You 've been extremely detailed and helpful!
P.S. What is the "Ragchew"?
Youbatfalcontube Ragchew basically meens just normal chat when your talking in a net.👍🏻
@@Westy-1 Thanks! You have been most helpful. 73 de SV1SLB
Optional micro icom SM 30 audio is good
I do like the color display better but I don't have a 7000 I did just buy a 7100 though and its a nice radio.if they made a 7100 with a color screen they would have the best.
frequency -- go to 2m on the 7000 --> use mike. single click.
Same on the 7100
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I'd prefer the color of the 7000, as well as the 7000 has better screen contrast.
If the 7100 had a color screen, I bet hardly anyone would prefer the 7000 over the 7100.
You have the -6 dB and -60dB bandwidths reversed. Check the definition of a filter shape factor. Thank you.
See you again
Hi All, i wonder if anyone on the Planet Earth knows how to adjust the frequency settings on an IC 7000, presumably inside the radio, the REF ADJUST in the menu is set to maximum and it still isn't anywhere near, perfect on HF but 1 khz off on 2mts and 2 khz off on 70 cms on TX and RX, it seems a closely guarded secret by Icom, not in the repair manual, if you adjust the main oscillator setting it throws HF out....any offers please....please dont say turn the tuning knob hi.....from Fred g4vvq in England.
I have also wondered for a long time the operation of "REF Adjust" in menu number 51.
When I speak in USB with other people I have to modify the "REF Adjust" when the frequency is always the same in VHF and UHF.
In HF there are no differences in USB in "REF Adjust".
I've always wondered why that option exists in the menu.
I do not know how to speak English. Translated text.
My name Daniel EA7HNR (Spain)
13.30 Correct the definition of a filter shape factor.
Who wants Death Star! LOL... IC-7000 all the way! :) .-.-.
two way good
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Honestly, you guys took a step back in screen quality with the 7100. It was released, what, 7 years after the 700, but the screen makes it look like it's from the mid '90s. The form factor is just awkward for mobile use too. You should release a new version of the 7100 for mobile use, because the 7000 just isn't up to that task.
Dude, this video and the radio are now 8 years old. Technology much?
@@ChatGPT1111 and yet nothing has come along to replace the 7100 yet...
@@nicholasheiser9786 I have the 705 attached to a 100w amplifier. Works great. Keep my 7100 as a backup.
@@ChatGPT1111 I'm actually considering that, but it would be nice if they could just make a package like that, with a remote head and 100W amp.
Interesting that 90% of video's for these models are all about "Menu's", hardly any showing actual "in use" ... ham computers imo.
Gums flappers.
I can imagine them on 80m one dark winters night, boring droning, like a competition to see who can get the alc to lift the least. 😆
IC 7000 is the King ik4mee
Cobra148gtl-dx and a stalker 9 f-dx wins both those radios hahaha
Funny. I have been tempted to get an SSB CB to add to the shack. My A99 antenna is setup for 10 meters but it still covers 11 meters. So I might as well add a CB to the shack if I can find one cheap enough.
The test was rigged - absolute rigged to hell. Many of the tasks, such as band changing, can be done a lot quicker on the Icom 7000 using the buttons on the stock microphone. On the Icom 7000 I press the 80m band button on the mike which is quicker than how you do it on the 7100. However in order to make the Icom 7100 look good, they didn't use the mike.
Conor M0GVZ I have both and they both came with the hm-151 mike so as the mike is the same with both radios how can it make a difference ?.
I don't get the overheating with my 7100 that I get with my 7000.
I can't wait the day Icom will replace that crap form factor... I don't know what they were thinking about releasing such a bad design... I don't care about the flashy color display, monochrome is fine /ith me but having that thing in mobile is ridiculous, why have abandoned the 706/7000 form factor ??? detachable controls of the 706/7000 was perfect, small and easy to install... that thing has been on the market long enough... the day the will replace that 7100 with a normal form factor that include everything in it from HF-UHF, I buy one... I already have the 7300/9700 but I am missing my mobile radio for all those years...
Why nobody speak about the power problem on the IC 7100 , nobody has got a Wattmeter ?
this trasceiver can't do 100 W when you speak in HF SSB , why ICOM never resolved this problem ? It exist a solution but ICOM never wanted to validate it why ?
I bought a brand new 7100 in December. Has full SSB output on all bands up to 144 mHz. Evidently, ICOM has fixed the issue.
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7100.. looks like a clock-radio...ugly
I'll keep my 7000 : )
How has that worked out for you?
You say "clock radio" like its a bad thing. I love my clock radio. I talk to it every morning. Usually involves foul language though.
THE 7000 IS THE KING
I have the 7100 and HATE the display. It is hard on the eyes and kills they enjoyment of the rig.
I have the 5100 2m/440 and it has that same fuzzy screen. Fantastic rig, but the display is so boring and an eye strainer.
I can't wait to have a standard form factor from icom mobile all mode rig... that 7100 is aweful mobile, such a bad design idea... the 706 was perfect with the detachable front face, 7000 was heading the right way also but the 7100, what a bad design idea... I hate that radio...
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Besides the weird sloped form factor, the 7100 display is ugly. Larger but horrible contrast. Cost of D-STAR forced them cheap out on the touch display. The 7000 is a great rig for its size despite the menu system.
Too bad they quit making the IC-7000! The IC-7100 sucks!!!!!
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The 7100 display stinks!
I have a 7000 but never cared much about it. I find the multi-level menus on ic-7000 very confusing. The receiver sucks on 6, 2m and 1.25m bands. It's not the greatest on HF either whick makes the radio a poor choice as a base station. TX audio quality is way below average with the factory supplied microphone. DSP filters suck too. The only reason I kept it as a mobile rig is because of it's powerful NB pulse noise blanker. Everything else is much better on my FT-857d, especially VHF/UHF performance.
The IC-7000 gets awfully hot, even if i'm listening only. I tried running Digital with 30 Watts only and it got terribly hot. My FT-857d does at the same power level without a problem.
I've been thinking about selling my IC-7000 and buying a new IC-7100. I have use a 7100 and was very impressed with it's performance. The LCD screen can be read a lot easier in direct sunlight. Touch screen is a huge plus because it makes it a lot more user friendly. actually I'm thinking of ordering one today since they are only $839 (Dayton special).
so how did it go with your 857d ? any screen problems yet ?
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so when did amateur radio become a hobby strictly for rich dudes?
Kewl Beans The whole industry is about to be turned on its head. SDR is going to make a lot of older radios drop drastically in price. Heck, you can now buy a $20 dongle that will function as a full receiver, and with a nice antenna, it picks up bands that these receivers cannot. We are on the edge of a pretty big change in things. I'm sort of afraid to buy a new radio now.
i've seen a few kits for like 20 meter or 40 meter or w/e like 40 bucks but i'm not the greatest with a soldering iron lol.
I odon't like the colour Screen an un necessary gimic
it's not a gimmick, it has excellent differentiation between functions, visual data and text. Also, the spectrum analyzer and waterfall is much easier to read in color.
Colour TVs must be a gimmick too then.