Amatuer / Pro / Master Graphic Design (What It Really Means)
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- You might have heard of amateur, pro, and master level graphic design being used as terminologies. And as a graphic designer, you might even feel like your work is somewhere on that scale. But what do real life examples of graphic design look like, when they fall into each category, and furthermore, why?
This video aims to look at things like business card designs, logo designs, website designs, and see why they may be considered amateur, professional, or even master level. What actually dictates these labels being given to a graphic design, and what can we as designers learn and take away from that? Well this graphic design tutorial will help you decide on that, and offer some fruitful knowledge, if you're a beginner or not.
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• Amatuer / Pro / Master...
0:00 What Tier Are You?
0:11 Pro/Am/Master Business Cards
2:00 Pro/Am/Master Clothing Brand Design
3:53 Pro/Am/Master Design Presentation
6:15 Pro/Am/Master Landing Pages
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I was really hoping that you would have had the amateur, pro and master levels of the same design to show how they would have done it differently, instead of showing totally different designs that made it harder to compare. I also agree with the person who said about the different materials. For example, it would have been cool to see what the amateur and pro could have done with that "lens business card material". Good to see what you consider the different levels, but making the playing field equal would have been a better video for us to compare apples to apples.
Completely agree. Far more beneficial to see the same design taken through the three tiers and what could be considered to take them from amateur, professional to master.
I would also like to point out, having professional photography shot assets for the design. The "amateur" ones might be done by someone underpaid, have short deadline, have to utilise cheap assets etc. resulting in more basic/dated looking designs. I would suggest you compare how long it would take to make each design and how they would look if you remove pro photo shots.
Amateur Designer =/= cheaped out materials/assets, sped up process
Pro designer =/= whole PR, QnA team, UX analysis, photography and time to put in
Poured money to have result doesn't simply define designers level.
This is an apples to oranges comparison. All these industries have vastly different audiences, industries, and goals. It also uses examples more suited to each designer’s level. I want to see 3 designers do the same brief, same product.
My thoughts exactly!
Me too!
Nice, that's a great idea
The "amateur" business card is the best in my opinion because you know what that thing is supposed to be because it follows certain conventions. Just like a movie poster follows conventions. I think most companies want exactly that and not some avantgarde stuff (which doesn't mean that there is no niche for that). I think this is the tricky thing when it comes to design. It's not easy to create something extraordinary that works within the given constraints. Similarly, a fancy user interface is useless if people don't know what to do with it. There are affordances - i.e., expectations - that an artifact or a stimulus must evoke to fulfill it's function effectively. If everyone would subvert expectations, we would not have any expectations at all and we would not even recognize a business card if we see one.
I love graphic design and video editing, and the two complement each other so well.
I love this rundown
One thing I noticed that was consistent with the master versions of each design category, is SIMPLICITY
Simplicity in design is really a show of mastery, thank you Satori ⚡⚡
I'm not sure if this advice is practical - we often don't have a say whether we can print a business card on a unique material, or to have a product photo on a model etc
It depends on the tier level of client you have. But the advice isn't just about business cards if you watch the video. Also, it enables you to think out of the box (business card advice). Context matters, not just the design.
@@SatoriGraphics yeah the examples shown were, indeed, very cool! Also later advice about presenting the design was great too. I guess just in my job I'm too boxed-in to get much outside of that with my propositions hah.
Found this today.. Completed 5 videos already. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
While I agree with the comparison of logos and landing pages, I believe the other categories may depend more on whether the client can provide quality photos and has a well-established brand identity and strategy, rather than solely on design expertise.
Always enhancing my skills thanks alot
Amazing Learning. Thanks Satori Graphics
Thanks for another great vid!
Although I love the overall look of the pro level landing page design, I feel like there's too many elements for me making it look a little too busy. But great and helpful video as always Satori!
Satori always with the top notch input in the shortest amount of time. Appriciate as always !
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Loved it....😊🎉❤
Great video, now i know what i missing
liked the process through which we can differentiate🙂
Thank you for all your lessons. The help me too much
You're very welcome!
Hey Satori. I’ve been following you for quite some time now. I love your content and designs. Really great stuff man.
I would like to ask for some help. I’ve been designing for a while now. I’ve improved but I’m still not good enough. When I see your work, I know there’s a lot more to learn.
The issue is I’m not surrounded by many designers so I don’t have many people to critique my work. Can you recommend me any online platforms for this?
🎉 great video
It's great piece of knowledge here but... Isn't the kerning in "AVANWA" poorly made?
Please make a video on how can we convert our design thinking from amature to master
Your channel gives me confidence that AI won't outshine our expertise. great content!
Could you create a video about the business aspects of design in future?
Amazing Learning.
Glad you think so!
Amazing Content. Hey Satori, can you please make a video on the design trends 2024, include all the modern fonts, color palettes, and more technical terminologies, I am asking for terminologies especially because it helps to catch the attention of the clients. Pretty Please.
It would be helpful for me if the comparisons shared the same industry and similar audiences. Design for a food brand versus a tech brand will be pretty different.
I think design is subjective, not all client fit with that fancy things, some just need simple and functional design
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Great information 😮
Glad you think so!
I like the "Amateur" card.
It's all about looking cheap and looking premium
How do you create the second business card design in print? What directions should we give to the print shop?
To me, aside the most important design principles, as an artist every mistake can be design as well. I think it is relative and as well depends on the theory we follow. However if it has to do with design principles such as consistency in colour, font, spacing, icon etc I do agree this must be done for a design to be really good. A good design should be simple and not made to be complex.
I didnt like that pro nike design at all, that strong yellow felt like it needed anchoring in terms of composition and overall it wasn't very clear, I still dont know what it was advertising as opposed to just throwing two clothing brand logos into the same messy design
Really satori graphic is one of the top channels in RUclips which changed my design looking perspective
I would disagree on the first "master" desing. Although the camera viewfinder is a clever idea, it's somewhst cliché in the same time and a bit messy. I loose interest before comfortable could find the contacts of the photographer.
The second edit from that batch was way cleaner and straightforward.
I agree with a comment below to showcase the SAME DESIGN in the amateur, pro and master, that is for me the way to learn, and explain the nuances of each. Otherwise just showing different brands is too easy even if they are good with no value.
There’s a wonderful thing called Brand Standards. It doesn’t matter what you, the designer want to do, if your design doesn’t meet their standards, they won’t use it. That first one isn’t even real. The website links to a Chinese domain!
Honestly, at this point, its very subjective. I noticed most of the "advanced" stuff is too busy. And usually ranks horribly in terms of accessibility.
One phrase, 'visual language'
That's all you need, when correctly matched to the target audience.
Not everyone will think like you about design. May be for someone the amateur design will be better than pro. Its not about design its about choice. I am also a designer but i always design what the client wants and they are happy with them.
cool
thanks!
IMO, the amateur designs all tried the safest ways to get their point across. They did look a little boring but got the job done. However, the pro designs I had the most issues with (the Nike one in particular). If I saw the Nike ad while scrolling, I'd just pass it without thinking twice. There wasn't anything to catch my eye there besides a hoodie. No catchphrase, no call to action, and the text was either too small or vertical. Also, the translucent business card with the super miniature contact info was a no for me. Being translucent was a perfect touch but it makes legibility more challenging and reinforces the need to make the fonts bigger and/or more legible. Personal opinion.
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Mr. Satori,
I have been experimenting with some mockup graphics. Would you take a look and give some feed back. If so how may I send them to you. Your schedule is quite full. I am sure. Do you have a program for such advice?
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The design of the Resolve card doesn't sell me. The only thing that makes it memorable is the transparent material, the chromely reminiscent R, along with the lower cased security services.... Id chose the AV card first. The business card is pretty good though.
How do you create such Design Presentations as shown?
Would like to see examples for one audience, same market level. As I assume, for instance, comparing 2 brands that have different branding & audience niche is a bit subjective
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How can I be able to differentiate between amateurs pro and master?
experience time passion and an eagerness to learn more 👍
My take away from this, master is more clean and efficient than pro. I'm not sure that I'm already amateur but I'll try to make my design easy to read.
partly yes. Visual language is essential.
The Resolve business card design was AWFUL…
How?
@@KrazyDznsI wouldn’t say it was awful but I’m really trying to see why it was better than the first design. It had a superior composition technically but the colors were less attractive, and the gradient all over was definitely didn’t help with the poor contrast much of the design had
@@homecactus For me Even tho first design was clean good and Minimalistic but it was too generic
Is it just me, or does Devyn remind you of the main character from Prey?
Hi! You wrote "amatuer" instead of "amateur" (on title)
I am not even in the level of amateur😂
Still client chooses amateur ones🤣
The biggest difference between, what you call Amateur, Profi and Master, is mostly not because of the skills of the Designer: it´s the Budget of the client. There are several reasons, why many Clients simply don‘t pay enough, to get a Designer into the process of creating a high end master design 🤷♀️
But also think of this though. The skills of the designer dictate the client budget.. If you have poor skills, you will get clients with poor budgets. The opposite is true, fruitful skills will gain fruitful client budgets.
@@SatoriGraphics I'm working in this branche since 1988 for all kinds of clients. Most of the clients have no clue, what a good Design means and it became worse, since people believe they simply can do it with their PC, Clipart and AI. Some come up argueing with cheap pricing they find in the Internet.
Most of them either like your skills, but want to pay you like a beginner or they have no clue at all, what a good design is and don't understand it's pricing. I simply reject clients, that don't match my pricing.
Also you will get start-ups who would like to pay, but simply don't have the money. So they are normally starting at smaller budget.
But there is always a range. It's normal to adapt the Design to the budget. That doesn't necessarly mean you do a bad job, but as a Designer you put less effort in a 1.000 bugs Logo than a 50.000 bugs Logo.
Only starters put the same effort in every job, just to get the references, which actually is another problem. e.g. Nike only paid 35$ for their Logo, when they started their busniess.
There's a reason we have generic designs, but it's gotten out of hand. I can't tell the difference anymore between an organic farm raised food app and an app that connects to the metaverse. There is no impact on people because everyone is going for the same look of modern clean sleek.
Id like to see a master design with a client that has a low budget lol.
you probably won't lol
I've really enjoyed your videos over the years but this one seems like it was written by a teenager with no understanding of how effectively applying design principles can enhance the visual aesthetic. It didn't offer any insight except "be richer to afford fancy materials"
The second business card printed on regular paper without the foil print would look meh compared to the first one if it was printed on translucent card with foil highlights.
Same with the second poster, it's ok for digital, but if you printed out poster 1 and 2, a standard CMYK print would make the second poster look like rubbish compared to the first one. Solution, fork out the money to get special dyes?
Then the 3rd poster, of course it looks dope if the only legible text you need on it is 2 words and you can fill the rest with cool imagery. Not really a fair comparison, the first poster conveyed way more information.
Everyone has their off days so no ill will, I just hope you can make a video that actually shows how different experience levels in DESIGN can enhance the same content.
Like please
sure why not
None of the "pro" level examples were as effective as the "amateur" ones. They were invisible and pointless generic noise to my senses. In the amateur ones you know what the company is and what the ad is about. In the pro ones neither is obvious. The "master" ones begin to be decent... but aren't really great because they still tend to not be completely obvious or have a clear call to action (in my opinion)
thanks for the feedback
Have you seen a cool looking dude? You belong to thar category! It needs to be cool looking and trendy without any functionality or actual real user experience.
But how to practice designing dedicatedly?
by practicing :P
mmM don't know mate regarding landing page. However, even my opinion is...USELESS because a landing page that works is tested online, you see the data, you see the result. None of these landing pages you have shown reveal any results like traffic results, optin results, sale results etc. A landing page would not really be changed in design until it is tested online, until it gets the results person wants. This is not print, this is internet, online marketing, very different game. I would like when you do anything regarding landing pages, websites to reveal history of testing and data with results from changes of design i.e. headline, offer, image changes etc. You cannot design for online and not to optimize for results.
I strongly disagree with calling the last business card a master-level design. It's fancy, for sure, and it will be fun for 5 minutes. It's a toy and not akin to what good graphic design should be, I think. It's bloated with graphics and icons that have nothing to do with the actual message. You get distracted by them and need extra time to find what you're actually looking for. Besides that, it completely ignores the costs of the thing. It looks and feels cheap but is probably very expensive to make. Don't get me wrong, it's awesome! But a MASTER-level design works on its own without being a gimmick. A master would just need a piece of paper and some good typography.
I also disagree with some points about the logo levels. You are talking more about the presentation than the actual logos. The logos you picked were clearly not equal in business level. I think the pizza logo had a much better appeal and clear messaging than the second one, which I already forgot. But the pizza logo was for a small business, and the others were for big industry brands.
However, my biggest pet peeve is probably the intro text and showing the process. Who are they for? The intro text is not for the client because they should know these things and probably don’t care, and potential portfolio visitors don’t care either. And the process-this is something I hate. I don't feel anybody cares how many rules of the golden ratio or special grids you used. Only the person making it cares, or maybe us, professional nutcases, want to see this. Clients really couldn’t care less, so why waste their time with this? Showing it deffenitly does not makes your design pro or master level.
Nice video though!
TBH, i didn't see Master level Graphic Design in this video!
Just one thing.
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all the designs were cool to me, i wouldnt call any of them amature
The thim
thumbnail is ass cuz u show different designs eith different assets. Sure the Master has a better design structure, but it also has way better PNGs to begin with
*minor spelling mistake*
What about then client lol, most of the time they like amateur one, even your work is at master lvl 🤣
The animation of this video is nice, but its definitely in the amatuer field.
Did you just show some "AI concept" as master graphic design? 😂
Your channel is not getting much views!! Are you worried??
He just uploaded and it takes time
the algorithm does it's thing. Some of my videos get more views with time. This type of content is energreen educational, not pop culture content that gets most of it's views in the first 24 hours.
@@SatoriGraphics yes I totally agree with you on that
@@SatoriGraphicsBeautiful mindset you got sir 🙌🏾
Sometimes, the client is the problem. Clean design is seen as less appealing 🥲 they prefer to see 100% saturated bright colors and crowded texts and stuff.