When I tune in to Scotty Kilmer, I use it mostly for background noise; when I tune in to your channel, I sit down and pay attention to what you say. Thank you very much Mr. & Mrs. Car Care Nut.
@@bobcarrigan1742 I agree. Scotty may be a jack of all car brands and a master of none. I still appreciate that he is a jack of all car brands and has the ability to separate the wheat from the chaff and help millions along the way.
Regarding drum brakes, I have no complaints. Also of note, the Hilux and almost every Ute in Australia still runs drum brakes and leaf springs. Those trucks and capacities are generally far better than our mid size trucks.
@@raymathews7035 nothing wrong with disc brakes, they actually can perform slightly better in the rear, but they wear out much much faster, are more costly, and if the application doesn’t have a great need, I’d say it’s an unnecessary “upgrade”
I visited with guys at a Toyota dealer in NZ in 1985, and was impressed with the price of a Hilux four door cab & chassis 4wd since the exchange rate made it the same as my 1984 Longbed Deluxe 2wd. The interest rate was 19.9%, compared to the US 9.9%, with NZ inflation rate of 15%. Drum brakes are fine on the rear since we expect a light rear end to slide around. 25 years ago, I drove a 1971 IH Scout II from western MT to my Alaska home, and the drum brakes worked just fine in our wet coastal Alaska climate. Happy 50th Anniversary for the Scout II (1971-2021)! The 2009 Tacoma Access Cab 4wd 2.7l MT is sweeter than my '84... Dad, Are you sure you can drive a stick? My kids approved, even before they tried "the stick>"
@@ElevationEveryWeekend That type of logic makes no sense, brake pads are dirt cheap, the cost reduction from going to drum brake is minimal. We live in a world where $200 windshield replacements cost $1000 on some cars with the addition of so many safety sensors. This is nothing more than Toyota trying to cut costs in areas that have little impact on performance. Your maintenance cost is the least of their concerns.
My comments on the Tacoma brakes and suspension: -The brake pedal 'feel' can be made more linear, with better braking precision, by simply swapping the fluid to Dot4 fluid (Prestone's $10 fluid is what I used). No need for expensive racing brake fluid. -stick with OEM ceramic pads. Semi-metallic (ie. Their TRD pads or any other brand), will wear faster and create lots of dust. Since the Tacoma is heavy, semi-metallic will wear out the rotors faster than on a car, requiring all new hardware sooner. Stopping performance wasn't significantly better with semi-metallic either, since this is a truck. Stick with high quality ceramic pads, OEM if possible. -rear drum brakes never wear out, at least at 160k miles on mine. They only need the drum removed for a vacuum cleaning and lubrication on the rest areas on the shoes, during front brake service. - stock rear shocks cause the back end to scatter dance on harsh road surfaces. Consider upgrading the rear shocks to at least a Bilstein 5160 (which came with the TRD Pro suspension), to immediately correct that behavior. - don't change the front ride height by more than 2", and avoid doing if it's not needed. Anything more will make alignment hard to do without changing out the UCAs to aftermarket.
Dot4 is an old-school hygroscopic fluid, meaning that it attracts moisture from the air. This is bad for brake fluid, and means the brake system should be periodically flushed and given new fluid. Dot5 is non-hygroscopic, meaning less maintenance. Dot5 also has a higher boiling point, which is good. Also, all liguids are incompressible. There should be no difference in the feel of Dot4 vs Dot5. Changing the fluid may have purged some air from the system, giving a different feel.
Excellent piece. I just sold my 07 and took delivery of a 22. I loved my second gen, but was ready for the modern upgrades. The fact that I could still have everything thing I liked about my nearly 15 year old truck combined with the modern upgrades makes the Tacoma the most unique line of vehicles I think have ever been produced outside of CJs and Wranglers.
I take my stock Tacoma on a lot of steep paved mountain roads here in Colorado and would add that it is really grippy and comfortable on tight curves at highway speeds without remotely pushing the envelope.
I felt pretty darned good about Tacoma's build quality and the longevity I was striving for when I bought the TRD OR a month ago. I'm feeling even better about it now after each video sequence in this series! I think this rig was the absolute best choice to take over from my 24 year old Ranger 4WD, which is still in great shape. Coming from a 24 y/o Ranger, the Tacoma drives like a Mercedes in comparison! 😄
@@goingindieEN It makes NO difference to me. After decades, I gave up on Ford. Especially when I learned they put a 4 cylinder turbo'd ecoboost in the Ranger. Without ridiculous future repairs and expenses, there's no way in hell a Ranger...or really ANY Ford will survive as long as the Tacoma will. I just sent my last Ford down the line. A 3 year old, 34k Escape with a known bad Ecoboost in it. No way was I gonna pay for Ford's crappy design and mistakes, again!
We have a 2002 Tacoma 4 Door Green Jade Metallic Brown interior 130000 miles perfect condition this thing everywhere I go people look and admire. Even those dudes with new trucks they go that is a keeper.
Never had a Ranger last 24 years tbh one 93 manual Ranger and 84 Ranger V6 with constant idling issues and then a 4.6 V8 Explorer with differential grinding at 72k miles including the transmission going out
For perspective, I successfully haul max loads (900lbs) of firewood thru the Sierras in my 4 cylinder 2WD auto trans 3rd gen with drum brakes in the rear. The enthusiast crowd keeps telling me I don't want drum brakes on a working truck. I don't know what they're talking about, I'm perfectly happy w/ drums.
It’s weird to hear that people think the Tacoma rides a bit stuff. I came from driving sports cars all the time and switching to a 19 TRD OR feels night and day different! So much smoother and easier going over bumps. I had to get used to body roll again but that wasn’t a big deal. I think my truck is pretty comfortable to drive. My biggest complaint would be the lack of mobility in the steering wheel I need it to lift up a little bit higher to more comfortably fit
It would also be great if it telescoped outwards so tall people don’t have to jam their knees into the dash to keep their lower back from getting sore…
@@trux91ify that would be nice for sure. The range of motion up and down even is not very much. I’m not very tall but even my thighs hit the steering wheel occasionally too
Same here. Before I got my Tacoma, I was driving a mustang and the difference between the ride feel is crazy. I no longer feel anxious about going over pot holes or railroad tracks. I agree with what you said about the steering wheel too. Wish it raised up a little higher, my knees sometimes get in the way
My rear brakes NEVER wore out on my old Toyota pickup. Somewhere around 375k the left rear seal blew out and soaked the brake shoes. This is when I replaced them, due to them being oil soaked. BTW, I did replace the brake springs a couple/three times, just in case.
I had a '99 Tacoma SR5 4wd. Purchased it new and it never gave any trouble through the 20 years I drove it. The worst thing about it was on wet roads, absolutely no traction AT ALL!
I Love the Tacoma too! You're absolutely right people shouldn't forget it's a truck! I had to recently come to an emergency STOP and there's definitely no ABS and I came to a complete stop safely
Tacomas have no ABS? I didn’t know that. Traditional brakes that lock up will stop faster. The ABS really only allows you to steer under hard braking, which you can’t do if the brakes are locked and the tires skidding.
You are correct that the Tacoma front brakes are OK, but not great. My 2015 Tacoma started shaking badly in front when braking with only 35,000 miles on it. I replaced the warped rotors and the pads with EBC brake rotors and EBC Yellow Stuff pads. My front brakes went from OK to EXCELLENT and the shaking is gone; now smooth as silk when braking.
2009 Tacoma owner just turned 90000. Just replaced the brakes and struts and shocks. 2.7 liter 5 speed manual selling it to my son and I’m getting 2023 Tacoma Sport.
I have a 2001 Tacoma SR5 4wd V6 Xtra cab with a 5 speed, and it's by far the best, and most reliable vehicle I've owned in 50 years of driving. It plows snow, hauls firewood, and has been very well maintained. At 180,000 miles, it's still on the original clutch, doesn't burn any oil, and rear brakes have never been touched since day 1. What amazing quality. Should have bought 2 of them and put one away, nothing so un-computerized will ever be made again
I find it interesting to see so many business trucks are Tundras and Tacomas (plumbers, electricians, construction workers, and handy men) Even Tesla uses Ford F-150’s for their emergency help vehicles!!!
I have a 2019 TRD offroad that is a combination limited / trd, was informed the radar collision avoidance wasn't on the truck like the 2020 model. I found out real quick that it in fact had it when I was cut off, the dash warning to brake and truck started to apply the brakes. I started braking and it felt like I dropped a anchor. Brakes work very well in all weather.
I love your videos. I am watching one from a year ago, as you can tell. I love Toyota and have a 2021 Tacoma with 3.5. You explain things so well, and you really know Toyotas... Toyota is the best! Keep the good videos coming! Congrats on your shop!
My two biggest beefs with the Taco is the tiny cup holders that wont hold large insulated water bottles, and the volume controls on the steering wheel. I've had my truck for 3 years and I still accidentally skip to the next song when I meant to turn up the volume.
What a great video!!!! My 2021 Tacoma Sr was built on the 19th of August should be here by the 19th of September. Trading in my 2007 235,000 MI SR, that runs as solid as the day I drove it off the lot. Paint aesthetics interior solid. Trade in value $5,000 I only paid $16, 000 New. Two wheel drive manual.
I am loving my '21 Tacoma SR (this replaced my '23 TRD Sport, which was totaled in a rear end crash earlier this year). I tend to keep my vehicles for a long, long time. The Tacoma should last me, and could well be my last truck! This truck is easy to maintain, I just did the 5k oil/filter change, tire rotation and air filters, talk about easy maintenance. It pulls my boat great and it just works well, we just got back from a 600 mile fishing trip up north, pulled boat and all my musky gear no prob. That's it, nothing too fancy or SUV/car like. There are plenty of aftermarket options to customize the look of the Tacoma too (mine is no chrome, all blackout in magnetic gray metallic). LOVE IT!
After a year with my 2020 SR5 4x4 I love this truck. I've had Jeep Liberty and Subarus before and I don't think the truck is rough on most roads. It handles good and the ride is good overall. I do feel like the rear end does bounce over really bad pavement more than my Jeep did especially with nothing in the bed. The truck has been totally trouble free for me. I've taken it on trips last summer hours and hours away with my popup camper. The Tacoma was a great companion.
The SR5 is the plushest riding truck Iv ever drove. So much that I bought another one after having a 18 F150, that I traded cuz it rode like a lumber wagon and steered really heavy.
I only just got a 2017 tacoma trd off road. I love the simplicity especially under the hood. This information sure explains alot of questions I had about the way it drives
great thanks I had a 2018 double cab. 109,000 miles and only needed front pads. one transmission fluid change, and oil changes thats all and tires. I drive on rural roads, and gravel I thought it's a very pleasant ride given the conditions. super reliable. when it comes to a work truck if it's not reliable and low maintenance it's useless and a pain I get a super trade in price on my 2018 and I'm about to get a 2022 SR double cab 6 cyl.
Thanks for another great video AMD. I have been driving big trucks since 87....till Oct 2022 when I got Taco TRD. Its leveled with TRD wheels and tires. Ride is just fine. Put on a shell which added 200 lbs to the rear.......life is good. Its a truck! Tranny shifting sucks though.
My wife has a 17 Tacoma, I have a 2019 Ranger. Tacoma is definitely a softer ride, I'm in no way saying it's bad or anything like that, just different. It's a good truck and I like both the Tacoma and Ranger. Aircraft have accumulators in their hydraulic systems. Difference is on aircraft the accumulator is precharged with nitrogen. Fluid pressures and nitrogen pressure do a balancing act.
The anti rattle pins/spring and the single wire pin holding the two pins are exactly the same as on our 1993 Toyota 4x4 pickup. I've seen similar on the 1989 4x4 pickup as well. I love our 2014 Tacoma.
Thank you for another fine video, I have had several Tacoma's over the years and been very happy with them. Now I am driving my 2019 Tacoma, Bought it new and it only has 10K on the clock. I am surprised to no end that you have not mentioned my only complaint for this 2019 Tacoma. And that is the horrendous performance of the throttle pedal, the dead spot between idle and forward movement of the truck. you push and push and then it takes of abruptly and you can never count on a smooth take off. I finally broke down and bought an aftermarket Throttle Response Controller made by Shift-Power USA. It is much better but not near as smooth and predictable as my wife's 2019 Highlander Hybrid.
My TRD offroad has hydroboost to accommodate for crawl control, but it doesn't have crawl control because it's a manual. But I actually like how the brakes feel on my truck and the 4runner. They bite really hard and the pedal is nice and firm.
Considering the problems the automotive supply chain is having the less"high tech" the better, not only for manufacturing but repair as well. The more electronics for critical systems the more you are at the mercy of countries who don't wish the U.S. well....
Our engines and transmissions are gradually choked to death by our own tax payer money that funds the EPA 😂. Toyota is the only exception that will gradually perfect its technology by Kaizen. It's sad to see the condition of new Hemi, GM and Ford engines. I love American V8 sounds but they all have failure points on the new ones.
@@chrisb6866 no I sent it back I have a 2021 and I couldn't find a setting I liked now friends with older Tacomas like it I think Tacomas from 2018 and up transmissions where programed better to stop that lag when you press on the gas
I like rear drums because it seems like the parking brake works better and you don't have to adjust it as much if even at all compared to disc brakes on the rear. So yes, if it ain't broke don't fool with it!!
I like rear drum brakes... replace a lot of rear disk brakes 3 sets of pads and rotors to one set of shoes when ever I do front brakes I cleaned lube and adjust rear ..I believe the disk pressure is to on most rear disc brakes and people don't press pedal hard enough to make them work under normal braking .there for it's important to keep pads and pins free
Drum brakes last longer - one of the reasons why it is economical to own a Toyota. My Hilux is more the 100,000 kms but I haven't replaced the brake shoe yet.
I have a '97 4Runner. I just changed the shoes and drums for the first time this year. They lasted 24 years or in my case 180,000 miles. Truthfully they were probably still good for another year or two.
I sure do like your videos on Toyota's. I have a 2011 Tacoma with 94,000 on it and drive it ever day. It is a wonderful truck and very reliable like you said. I teach Auto Fundamentals and I also think if it is not broke don't fix it.
I'm a retired mechanic, and when disc brakes became popular, they were almost always just front disc. We were told that the front brakes do 90% of the stopping (due to weight shift) and that rear disc was pointless overkill that raised the price of the car.
I drove a F150 16 years (personal use) did nothing to the rear drum brakes but inspect when I thought of it. Look forward to same with the 2013 Taco I bought new.
Good video. I love my 2016 Tacoma. They are just flat awesome trucks. You mentioned the hippity hop in the rear end. It's just reminds that it is a heavy built truck. I love it
At 5:20 - 5:30 you suggest an annual cleaning of the pins and pads. Makes sense. But if I have to spread the calipers to remove the pads, won't that push dirty fluid back into the system? Can you film this procedure the next time you do this service on a Tacoma? Thank you very much for all the great content!
I have a 2008 Tacoma 4x2 with the 2.7L 4 cylinder with 580,000 miles Still runs great Do you maintenance religiously. Change you oil every 4 k and you can easily get 300-400k miles also
I noticed a massive difference in shock damping between the trd sport and trd off road. The trd sport model felt like it had no body roll along with increased chassis chatter. The trd offroad lost suspension confidence to make a quick lane change on the interstate. Thanks for the posting these videos.
Off road is set softer for better handling of bumps off road. The TRD sport, being just a SR5 with a visual package, is more firm for on road handling.
Off-road spring rate is progressive. Soft and squishy to soak up bumps at the top of the stroke, stiffness comes at the bottom of the stroke. Off-road also has a smaller diameter front sway bar allowing more "flex".
Front brake caliper is 100% identical to my 1990 Hilux! It's now 31 years and the caliper and washers (except the dust boots and pads) are still factory!
Front brake part on their trucks are interchangeable. Land cruiser, Prado Hilux, Fj cruiser, 70 series are of same design. Though the latest 70 series and Land cruiser uses 22 mm bolt in the front caliper.
Correct me if I’m wrong but the main advantage of a disc brake system and drum brakes is to dissipate the heat buildup if you are using them a lot in a short time. Such as if you are racing or have a very heavy load going downhill. Neither of which you do in a Tacoma. Or shouldn’t do. That is why I believe that disc brakes on the rear are unnecessary in this vehicle. When you do need brake pads the drum brake pads cost less and there is no rotor disc that needs replacing or resurfacing.
I had 180k miles on my ‘09 original rear drums, and still had life left. Every once in a while I would brush some rust off, and clean the mechanism, otherwise they were zero maintenance all these years.
No that’s not what disc brakes are for. You do not know what you are talking about. Drum brakes brake like shit that’s why people hate them. Yes the front does 70 percent of the stopping but it’s outdated to use such shit in a modern truck. Cheapness and cutting corners isn’t a Toyota thing so I don’t know why they do that
@@dongf5628 Toyota is all about reliability and longevity. I’ve seen several people comment that they have several hundred thousand miles on the same set of drum brakes on the rear of their vehicles. No reports of inefficient braking with discs on the front and drums on the rear. Most of the vehicles I’ve owned have had this combination including a 70’s era Mach 1 Mustang. No issues or accidents with this config. The auto makers put discs on the front and rear of almost all of their vehicles as a selling point, not because they are necessary.
@@lc7192 no because it brakes better my dude. You can’t be serious and compare braking with 4 way discs compared to drums in the rear lol. They do it cause people don’t fight back and stick with it. If they are so good and reliable why they ain’t do that with the 4Runner or Tundra?
I had a 2001 tacoma since new. 2.7 4wheel. 5 speed. Most basic truck ever. Power nothing, no tilt wheel, 2 speed wipers, bench seat. I put 350000 miles on it. The motor never had any work. No timing chain, no water pump, no alternator. Only belts. It was great truck. Got you no where fast or in comfort. But it never in 20 yrs ever did it not start and drive.. In the rust belt also. I did basic maintenance religiously. But i think in 20 yrs it was in the shop once. And that was scheduled. Rear wheel bearing. Other than that everything I did on my own. They did do frame replacement. Gave me brand new car to drive and replaced it for free. Good feeling when a company stands behind their f ups. I just got a new 2021 last month and I was pleasantly surprised to see mostly similar engine and under carriage. To my old tacoma. I kept my old one for same reason toyota doesn't change stuff. If it isn't broke don't fix it.
Today the rains of Ida rolled over the North East. I was stuck on the highway for 4 hours trying to get 1 mile to the next exit to get off... while parked waiting, I turned my 2017 tacoma off and I pulled up my E brake as I always do when the vehicle is parked... after about 2 hrs. I started up to move up 10 feet, only to find that my beloved taco would lock up her rear passenger wheel. I think the e brake got stuck, maybe rust? I had to do several burn outs to try to break it free... which after 5 mins it did... everyone around me thought I was crazy
when auto manufacture make a change it is usually to please journalists who do reviews on cars and trucks which they drive for only for a couple of days, did you ever seen a journalist on his hand and knees fixing something on a car or a truck? probably not.
People that drive my 2018 offroad that own other trucks always complain about the brakes and suspension. When I bought the truck I could really feel the booster. Small vibrations in the pedal. My truck has a shell so I dont feel a lot of chatter but I do feel body roll and the suspension seems to soft.
I have the most basic 📦 Tacoma TRD off-road you could get with a 6spd manual transmission lol. I guess it's not all that simple if it's the 4X4 system but it does NOT have the technology sensors, heated 💺, 🌙 roof or leather interior... Mine came with sidesteps, mud flaps, floor mats, blacked-out badges, bed lights & exhaust tip lol that 📦 makes it look a little better imo
Love your Videos!!!! Happy Wednesday by the way. Love the wiper video and I plan on getting the replacements this weekend. Went four years with my current set because I’m in sunny ☀️ AZ 🌵and it doesn’t rain a lot. I don’t want the scratches on my windshield so I will change every 6-12 months like you said. Do you get push back from Toyota on some of your views? Just curious 🧐
I love my 2010 Tacoma. Was planning on keeping the Tacoma and buying a 2022 Tundra when I heard (at the time it was a rumor, so I figured they're going to address their gas eating woes) they were going to have a brand new engine for it. Then to find out the "Big Brother" is going to have a smaller displacement engine than I have in my Tacoma 😲 How is that going to work out ?
Natural aspiration is no more. All Toyota trucks will have forced induction via turbocharging. 2022 Tundra and 2023 Sequoia will have the 3.5L V35A-FTS V6, likely with 409 hp and 479 lb-ft, while the 2023 4Runner and 2024 Tacoma will have the 2.4L T24A-FTS I4 with about 275 hp and 317 lb-ft. All of these trucks will also be available as hybrids, very likely with the same engine series.
@@joseramirez9599 I'm a fan of and I subscribe to "Scotty Kilmer". He has said many times that the turbo engines don't last as long as the engines that don't have the turbo. In one of his videos he gave the many reasons, for the reason why this is. I'm new to this channel. One thing I like about Scotty is he does read the comments and get back to the people. Hope this wonderful gentleman does the same.
When I tune in to Scotty Kilmer, I use it mostly for background noise; when I tune in to your channel, I sit down and pay attention to what you say. Thank you very much Mr. & Mrs. Car Care Nut.
yeah, cuz that's all that guy is, noise. I feel like he's always yelling at me, very unpleasant to listen to
Scotty is more of an automotive standup comedian and entertainer. AMD gives the the real scoop. Absolutely no BS.
I'm waiting for Scotty to tell us what happens when he goes to the drive-thru LOL
Well, at least Scotty knows that Toyotas are the best!
@@bobcarrigan1742 I agree. Scotty may be a jack of all car brands and a master of none. I still appreciate that he is a jack of all car brands and has the ability to separate the wheat from the chaff and help millions along the way.
Regarding drum brakes, I have no complaints. Also of note, the Hilux and almost every Ute in Australia still runs drum brakes and leaf springs. Those trucks and capacities are generally far better than our mid size trucks.
Why not use disc brakes?🤔🚗🙂
@@raymathews7035 nothing wrong with disc brakes, they actually can perform slightly better in the rear, but they wear out much much faster, are more costly, and if the application doesn’t have a great need, I’d say it’s an unnecessary “upgrade”
I visited with guys at a Toyota dealer in NZ in 1985, and was impressed with the price of a Hilux four door cab & chassis 4wd since the exchange rate made it the same as my 1984 Longbed Deluxe 2wd. The interest rate was 19.9%, compared to the US 9.9%, with NZ inflation rate of 15%. Drum brakes are fine on the rear since we expect a light rear end to slide around. 25 years ago, I drove a 1971 IH Scout II from western MT to my Alaska home, and the drum brakes worked just fine in our wet coastal Alaska climate. Happy 50th Anniversary for the Scout II (1971-2021)! The 2009 Tacoma Access Cab 4wd 2.7l MT is sweeter than my '84... Dad, Are you sure you can drive a stick? My kids approved, even before they tried "the stick>"
@@ElevationEveryWeekend That type of logic makes no sense, brake pads are dirt cheap, the cost reduction from going to drum brake is minimal. We live in a world where $200 windshield replacements cost $1000 on some cars with the addition of so many safety sensors. This is nothing more than Toyota trying to cut costs in areas that have little impact on performance. Your maintenance cost is the least of their concerns.
@@vee6411 tell it to Toyota then. That was part of their reasoning.
My comments on the Tacoma brakes and suspension:
-The brake pedal 'feel' can be made more linear, with better braking precision, by simply swapping the fluid to Dot4 fluid (Prestone's $10 fluid is what I used). No need for expensive racing brake fluid.
-stick with OEM ceramic pads. Semi-metallic (ie. Their TRD pads or any other brand), will wear faster and create lots of dust. Since the Tacoma is heavy, semi-metallic will wear out the rotors faster than on a car, requiring all new hardware sooner. Stopping performance wasn't significantly better with semi-metallic either, since this is a truck. Stick with high quality ceramic pads, OEM if possible.
-rear drum brakes never wear out, at least at 160k miles on mine. They only need the drum removed for a vacuum cleaning and lubrication on the rest areas on the shoes, during front brake service.
- stock rear shocks cause the back end to scatter dance on harsh road surfaces. Consider upgrading the rear shocks to at least a Bilstein 5160 (which came with the TRD Pro suspension), to immediately correct that behavior.
- don't change the front ride height by more than 2", and avoid doing if it's not needed. Anything more will make alignment hard to do without changing out the UCAs to aftermarket.
Or...just leave it alone works too.
Good advise.
Dot4 is an old-school hygroscopic fluid, meaning that it attracts moisture from the air. This is bad for brake fluid, and means the brake system should be periodically flushed and given new fluid. Dot5 is non-hygroscopic, meaning less maintenance. Dot5 also has a higher boiling point, which is good. Also, all liguids are incompressible. There should be no difference in the feel of Dot4 vs Dot5. Changing the fluid may have purged some air from the system, giving a different feel.
I added SS brake lines at all 4 corners. Absolutely helps pedal feel when doing a lot of braking.
@@adrianaprhys Lol go ahead and put dot 5 in a regular brake system see what happens
You really do a great service to Toyota owners by making these videos. Thank you AMD.
Excellent piece. I just sold my 07 and took delivery of a 22. I loved my second gen, but was ready for the modern upgrades. The fact that I could still have everything thing I liked about my nearly 15 year old truck combined with the modern upgrades makes the Tacoma the most unique line of vehicles I think have ever been produced outside of CJs and Wranglers.
should have bought a 4 runner
@@marki61422 Why? So I can haul gravel and bricks in the third row seat?
@@HunterSeim New Tacomas very unreliable,,4 runners very reliable,,think that answers your question.
I take my stock Tacoma on a lot of steep paved mountain roads here in Colorado and would add that it is really grippy and comfortable on tight curves at highway speeds without remotely pushing the envelope.
I felt pretty darned good about Tacoma's build quality and the longevity I was striving for when I bought the TRD OR a month ago. I'm feeling even better about it now after each video sequence in this series!
I think this rig was the absolute best choice to take over from my 24 year old Ranger 4WD, which is still in great shape. Coming from a 24 y/o Ranger, the Tacoma drives like a Mercedes in comparison! 😄
I heard the new rangers drive have firm ride as well. Wonder if that’s better or worse than the taco.
@@goingindieEN It makes NO difference to me. After decades, I gave up on Ford. Especially when I learned they put a 4 cylinder turbo'd ecoboost in the Ranger. Without ridiculous future repairs and expenses, there's no way in hell a Ranger...or really ANY Ford will survive as long as the Tacoma will. I just sent my last Ford down the line. A 3 year old, 34k Escape with a known bad Ecoboost in it. No way was I gonna pay for Ford's crappy design and mistakes, again!
@@OhMySack Need to buy the 5.0L engine. The eco engine is junk. Have to lift the cab off the frame to replace the leaking turbos.
We have a 2002 Tacoma 4 Door Green Jade Metallic Brown interior 130000 miles perfect condition this thing everywhere I go people look and admire. Even those dudes with new trucks they go that is a keeper.
Never had a Ranger last 24 years tbh one 93 manual Ranger and 84 Ranger V6 with constant idling issues and then a 4.6 V8 Explorer with differential grinding at 72k miles including the transmission going out
For perspective, I successfully haul max loads (900lbs) of firewood thru the Sierras in my 4 cylinder 2WD auto trans 3rd gen with drum brakes in the rear. The enthusiast crowd keeps telling me I don't want drum brakes on a working truck. I don't know what they're talking about, I'm perfectly happy w/ drums.
Drum brakes have more friction surface than rotor disc ideally.
It’s weird to hear that people think the Tacoma rides a bit stuff. I came from driving sports cars all the time and switching to a 19 TRD OR feels night and day different! So much smoother and easier going over bumps. I had to get used to body roll again but that wasn’t a big deal. I think my truck is pretty comfortable to drive. My biggest complaint would be the lack of mobility in the steering wheel I need it to lift up a little bit higher to more comfortably fit
I had a 2017 trd offroad and I thought it was the nicest riding truck Ive ever owned. I heard the TRD sport is a bit more rigid.
@@buttonman1831 I have an SR 4x4 and to me it rides like a Cadillac compared to my Subaru STi .
It would also be great if it telescoped outwards so tall people don’t have to jam their knees into the dash to keep their lower back from getting sore…
@@trux91ify that would be nice for sure. The range of motion up and down even is not very much. I’m not very tall but even my thighs hit the steering wheel occasionally too
Same here. Before I got my Tacoma, I was driving a mustang and the difference between the ride feel is crazy. I no longer feel anxious about going over pot holes or railroad tracks. I agree with what you said about the steering wheel too. Wish it raised up a little higher, my knees sometimes get in the way
My rear brakes NEVER wore out on my old Toyota pickup. Somewhere around 375k the left rear seal blew out and soaked the brake shoes. This is when I replaced them, due to them being oil soaked. BTW, I did replace the brake springs a couple/three times, just in case.
This Tacoma series is excellent!!! i am a long time Tacoma owner.
I had a '99 Tacoma SR5 4wd. Purchased it new and it never gave any trouble through the 20 years I drove it. The worst thing about it was on wet roads, absolutely no traction AT ALL!
I Love the Tacoma too! You're absolutely right people shouldn't forget it's a truck! I had to recently come to an emergency STOP and there's definitely no ABS and I came to a complete stop safely
Tacomas have no ABS? I didn’t know that. Traditional brakes that lock up will stop faster. The ABS really only allows you to steer under hard braking, which you can’t do if the brakes are locked and the tires skidding.
It absolutely does have ABS unless it’s extremely old.
One of the reasons I bought my 2018 Tacoma was just what you said. Simple and reliable, that's why I need a pick up.
You are correct that the Tacoma front brakes are OK, but not great. My 2015 Tacoma started shaking badly in front when braking with only 35,000 miles on it. I replaced the warped rotors and the pads with EBC brake rotors and EBC Yellow Stuff pads. My front brakes went from OK to EXCELLENT and the shaking is gone; now smooth as silk when braking.
2009 Tacoma owner just turned 90000. Just replaced the brakes and struts and shocks. 2.7 liter 5 speed manual selling it to my son and I’m getting 2023 Tacoma Sport.
I agree. I had no issues with my drum brakes on my Tacoma. Stops just as well as my families 4Runner with discs.
I don’t want Tacoma to change either.
I have a 2001 Tacoma SR5 4wd V6 Xtra cab with a 5 speed, and it's by far the best, and most reliable vehicle I've owned in 50 years of driving. It plows snow, hauls firewood, and has been very well maintained. At 180,000 miles, it's still on the original clutch, doesn't burn any oil, and rear brakes have never been touched since day 1. What amazing quality. Should have bought 2 of them and put one away, nothing so un-computerized will ever be made again
I find it interesting to see so many business trucks are Tundras and Tacomas (plumbers, electricians, construction workers, and handy men) Even Tesla uses Ford F-150’s for their emergency help vehicles!!!
I have a 2019 TRD offroad that is a combination limited / trd, was informed the radar collision avoidance wasn't on the truck like the 2020 model. I found out real quick that it in fact had it when I was cut off, the dash warning to brake and truck started to apply the brakes. I started braking and it felt like I dropped a anchor. Brakes work very well in all weather.
I love my Tacoma s I've had a 2003 2004 2017 2019 and 2021 I wouldn't buy any other truck each one has been reliable and no problems
Wow, really love Tacoma after seeing this. Old school is the good school!
I love your videos. I am watching one from a year ago, as you can tell. I love Toyota and have a 2021 Tacoma with 3.5. You explain things so well, and you really know Toyotas... Toyota is the best! Keep the good videos coming! Congrats on your shop!
My two biggest beefs with the Taco is the tiny cup holders that wont hold large insulated water bottles, and the volume controls on the steering wheel. I've had my truck for 3 years and I still accidentally skip to the next song when I meant to turn up the volume.
Take a look at Hondo Garage, they have great knobs for the radio
Same here! It's not a logical position for the buttons, it should be volume (up, down), change song tracks (left, right)
This is your best series! Nice job very comprehensive and detail rich without dragging on and on. Congrats AMD!
What a great video!!!!
My 2021 Tacoma Sr was built on the 19th of August should be here by the 19th of September. Trading in my 2007 235,000 MI SR, that runs as solid as the day I drove it off the lot. Paint aesthetics interior solid.
Trade in value $5,000 I only paid $16, 000 New. Two wheel drive manual.
Your deep dives are simply amazing👍. Thank you brother
Just gave my 07 Corolla it's 1st rear drum brake job at 290k last month.
Still had neddle bearing problems. Had to install an East Cost Gear Suply Sleeve to get rid of the vibration in 2WD.
I am loving my '21 Tacoma SR (this replaced my '23 TRD Sport, which was totaled in a rear end crash earlier this year). I tend to keep my vehicles for a long, long time. The Tacoma should last me, and could well be my last truck! This truck is easy to maintain, I just did the 5k oil/filter change, tire rotation and air filters, talk about easy maintenance. It pulls my boat great and it just works well, we just got back from a 600 mile fishing trip up north, pulled boat and all my musky gear no prob. That's it, nothing too fancy or SUV/car like. There are plenty of aftermarket options to customize the look of the Tacoma too (mine is no chrome, all blackout in magnetic gray metallic). LOVE IT!
Rough riding? My first Toyota 4X4 truck was a 1985 with a solid front axle and leaf springs. Now, that is rough riding but it was also bullet-proof.
After a year with my 2020 SR5 4x4 I love this truck. I've had Jeep Liberty and Subarus before and I don't think the truck is rough on most roads. It handles good and the ride is good overall. I do feel like the rear end does bounce over really bad pavement more than my Jeep did especially with nothing in the bed.
The truck has been totally trouble free for me. I've taken it on trips last summer hours and hours away with my popup camper. The Tacoma was a great companion.
The SR5 is the plushest riding truck Iv ever drove. So much that I bought another one after having a 18 F150, that I traded cuz it rode like a lumber wagon and steered really heavy.
I only just got a 2017 tacoma trd off road. I love the simplicity especially under the hood. This information sure explains alot of questions I had about the way it drives
Thanks for a great video. Every time a video comes up I feel like we get a piece of your mind
great thanks I had a 2018 double cab. 109,000 miles and only needed front pads. one transmission fluid change, and oil changes thats all and tires. I drive on rural roads, and gravel I thought it's a very pleasant ride given the conditions. super reliable. when it comes to a work truck if it's not reliable and low maintenance it's useless and a pain I get a super trade in price on my 2018 and I'm about to get a 2022 SR double cab 6 cyl.
Old school trucks win every time! Thanks for sharing! 👍👍👍
Thanks for another great video AMD. I have been driving big trucks since 87....till Oct 2022 when I got Taco TRD. Its leveled with TRD wheels and tires. Ride is just fine. Put on a shell which added 200 lbs to the rear.......life is good. Its a truck! Tranny shifting sucks though.
I overloaded my 2005 Toyota Tundra what no problems stock rear leaf springs are the best
My wife has a 17 Tacoma, I have a 2019 Ranger. Tacoma is definitely a softer ride, I'm in no way saying it's bad or anything like that, just different. It's a good truck and I like both the Tacoma and Ranger. Aircraft have accumulators in their hydraulic systems. Difference is on aircraft the accumulator is precharged with nitrogen. Fluid pressures and nitrogen pressure do a balancing act.
The anti rattle pins/spring and the single wire pin holding the two pins are exactly the same as on our 1993 Toyota 4x4 pickup. I've seen similar on the 1989 4x4 pickup as well. I love our 2014 Tacoma.
Thank you for another fine video, I have had several Tacoma's over the years and been very happy with them. Now I am driving my 2019 Tacoma, Bought it new and it only has 10K on the clock. I am surprised to no end that you have not mentioned my only complaint for this 2019 Tacoma. And that is the horrendous performance of the throttle pedal, the dead spot between idle and forward movement of the truck. you push and push and then it takes of abruptly and you can never count on a smooth take off. I finally broke down and bought an aftermarket Throttle Response Controller made by Shift-Power USA. It is much better but not near as smooth and predictable as my wife's 2019 Highlander Hybrid.
Been happy with my taco even though I only have it for 6 months!!
We appreciate your videos, brother. May God continue to bless you and your channel. 🙏
My TRD offroad has hydroboost to accommodate for crawl control, but it doesn't have crawl control because it's a manual. But I actually like how the brakes feel on my truck and the 4runner. They bite really hard and the pedal is nice and firm.
I like those 4 runners, but the used ones are so damn expensive. Good if you’re buying new, but bad if you’re shopping for a used one.
My auto 2009 OR had the hydro brake system as well. No crawl control back then.
Considering the problems the automotive supply chain is having the less"high tech" the better, not only for manufacturing but repair as well. The more electronics for critical systems the more you are at the mercy of countries who don't wish the U.S. well....
good thing Toyota's Japanese then!
Our engines and transmissions are gradually choked to death by our own tax payer money that funds the EPA 😂. Toyota is the only exception that will gradually perfect its technology by Kaizen. It's sad to see the condition of new Hemi, GM and Ford engines. I love American V8 sounds but they all have failure points on the new ones.
Thank God my TRD off road 4x4 Tacoma has rear drum breaks , I LOVE THEM !
Just want to say thank You for answering my question about pedal commander for my Tacoma on your live show
I missed that.. What was the question, and what was his answer??
@@chrisb6866 he basically said it wouldn’t hurt anything just gives u a no lag when u press the pedal
@@tundra866 Thanks. Was it worth it to you?
@@chrisb6866 no I sent it back I have a 2021 and I couldn't find a setting I liked now friends with older Tacomas like it I think Tacomas from 2018 and up transmissions where programed better to stop that lag when you press on the gas
I like rear drums because it seems like the parking brake works better and you don't have to adjust it as much if even at all compared to disc brakes on the rear. So yes, if it ain't broke don't fool with it!!
I like rear drum brakes... replace a lot of rear disk brakes 3 sets of pads and rotors to one set of shoes when ever I do front brakes I cleaned lube and adjust rear ..I believe the disk pressure is to on most rear disc brakes and people don't press pedal hard enough to make them work under normal braking .there for it's important to keep pads and pins free
Drum brakes last longer - one of the reasons why it is economical to own a Toyota. My Hilux is more the 100,000 kms but I haven't replaced the brake shoe yet.
I’m jealous of your HiLux. We can’t get them here in the US.
I have a '97 4Runner. I just changed the shoes and drums for the first time this year. They lasted 24 years or in my case 180,000 miles. Truthfully they were probably still good for another year or two.
@@thelsel348 old school last longer..
Best...video....ever! Might suspect that I have a 3G Tacoma. Seriously, all of the information is so appreciated.
Ya I was wondering about drums in my 2023 off road ;! Now I know thanks! Love your channel!!!
I sure do like your videos on Toyota's. I have a 2011 Tacoma with 94,000 on it and drive it ever day. It is a wonderful truck and very reliable like you said. I teach Auto Fundamentals and I also think if it is not broke don't fix it.
My 79 620 and 22 TRD O.R. both have rear drum breaks. The 79 has original pads, drums and hardware. Basic works well.
I always felt that the old rear brake design (use of drums) in Toyotas are do to the cost of manufacturing, that’s it.
Exactly!
One of the reasons Tacos are cheaper than 4 Runners.
I'm a retired mechanic, and when disc brakes became popular, they were almost always just front disc. We were told that the front brakes do 90% of the stopping (due to weight shift) and that rear disc was pointless overkill that raised the price of the car.
Thanks for this series, it's so good to be able to have this information.
I drove a F150 16 years (personal use) did nothing to the rear drum brakes but inspect when I thought of it. Look forward to same with the 2013 Taco I bought new.
love my 2021 tacoma sr5 !! added a trd pro grill super clean !!!!!!
Those TRD Pro grills look so much better IMO. Nice, simple upgrade on your part.
Good video. I love my 2016 Tacoma. They are just flat awesome trucks. You mentioned the hippity hop in the rear end. It's just reminds that it is a heavy built truck. I love it
I’ve owned 4 tacomas, all over 160k miles and I’ve only had to replace the parking brake cable. Never touched the rear brakes on any of them.
I can’t find part 5 of this series to save my life lol! Did he ever make part 5?
Thank you so much for your vids! You are great! I just took delivery on a 2021 TRD pro. Love the truck, thanks so much.....and God Bless You
My leaf springs got tired fast, trucks a 16 never had any significant weight in bed, AAL fixed the issue
At 5:20 - 5:30 you suggest an annual cleaning of the pins and pads. Makes sense. But if I have to spread the calipers to remove the pads, won't that push dirty fluid back into the system? Can you film this procedure the next time you do this service on a Tacoma? Thank you very much for all the great content!
Thank you for the Tacoma series videos! God bless!!
Can you talk about using the tacoma sport mode and or ECT mode when towing a travel trailer, do’s and don’t’s .
I have a 2008 Tacoma 4x2 with the 2.7L 4 cylinder with 580,000 miles
Still runs great
Do you maintenance religiously. Change you oil every 4 k and you can easily get 300-400k miles also
My 2014 Little Taco 4 banger has 56,000 miles on it, quite a youngster compared to yours.
Nice to feel good about what I drive ...🤗
I noticed a massive difference in shock damping between the trd sport and trd off road. The trd sport model felt like it had no body roll along with increased chassis chatter. The trd offroad lost suspension confidence to make a quick lane change on the interstate.
Thanks for the posting these videos.
Off road is set softer for better handling of bumps off road. The TRD sport, being just a SR5 with a visual package, is more firm for on road handling.
Off-road spring rate is progressive. Soft and squishy to soak up bumps at the top of the stroke, stiffness comes at the bottom of the stroke. Off-road also has a smaller diameter front sway bar allowing more "flex".
Front brake caliper is 100% identical to my 1990 Hilux! It's now 31 years and the caliper and washers (except the dust boots and pads) are still factory!
Front brake part on their trucks are interchangeable. Land cruiser, Prado Hilux, Fj cruiser, 70 series are of same design. Though the latest 70 series and Land cruiser uses 22 mm bolt in the front caliper.
Correct me if I’m wrong but the main advantage of a disc brake system and drum brakes is to dissipate the heat buildup if you are using them a lot in a short time. Such as if you are racing or have a very heavy load going downhill. Neither of which you do in a Tacoma. Or shouldn’t do. That is why I believe that disc brakes on the rear are unnecessary in this vehicle. When you do need brake pads the drum brake pads cost less and there is no rotor disc that needs replacing or resurfacing.
Rotors could be resurfaced and it seldomly replaced.
I had 180k miles on my ‘09 original rear drums, and still had life left. Every once in a while I would brush some rust off, and clean the mechanism, otherwise they were zero maintenance all these years.
No that’s not what disc brakes are for. You do not know what you are talking about. Drum brakes brake like shit that’s why people hate them. Yes the front does 70 percent of the stopping but it’s outdated to use such shit in a modern truck. Cheapness and cutting corners isn’t a Toyota thing so I don’t know why they do that
@@dongf5628 Toyota is all about reliability and longevity. I’ve seen several people comment that they have several hundred thousand miles on the same set of drum brakes on the rear of their vehicles. No reports of inefficient braking with discs on the front and drums on the rear. Most of the vehicles I’ve owned have had this combination including a 70’s era Mach 1 Mustang. No issues or accidents with this config. The auto makers put discs on the front and rear of almost all of their vehicles as a selling point, not because they are necessary.
@@lc7192 no because it brakes better my dude. You can’t be serious and compare braking with 4 way discs compared to drums in the rear lol. They do it cause people don’t fight back and stick with it. If they are so good and reliable why they ain’t do that with the 4Runner or Tundra?
Love my '07 4WD.
I had a 2001 tacoma since new. 2.7 4wheel. 5 speed. Most basic truck ever. Power nothing, no tilt wheel, 2 speed wipers, bench seat. I put 350000 miles on it. The motor never had any work. No timing chain, no water pump, no alternator. Only belts. It was great truck. Got you no where fast or in comfort. But it never in 20 yrs ever did it not start and drive.. In the rust belt also. I did basic maintenance religiously. But i think in 20 yrs it was in the shop once. And that was scheduled. Rear wheel bearing. Other than that everything I did on my own. They did do frame replacement. Gave me brand new car to drive and replaced it for free. Good feeling when a company stands behind their f ups. I just got a new 2021 last month and I was pleasantly surprised to see mostly similar engine and under carriage. To my old tacoma. I kept my old one for same reason toyota doesn't change stuff. If it isn't broke don't fix it.
Today the rains of Ida rolled over the North East. I was stuck on the highway for 4 hours trying to get 1 mile to the next exit to get off... while parked waiting, I turned my 2017 tacoma off and I pulled up my E brake as I always do when the vehicle is parked... after about 2 hrs. I started up to move up 10 feet, only to find that my beloved taco would lock up her rear passenger wheel. I think the e brake got stuck, maybe rust? I had to do several burn outs to try to break it free... which after 5 mins it did... everyone around me thought I was crazy
I have 98k and still running factory original brakes and still feels brand new
Extremely informative video for Toyota owners
when auto manufacture make a change it is usually to please journalists who do reviews on cars and trucks which they drive for only for a couple of days, did you ever seen a journalist on his hand and knees fixing something on a car or a truck? probably not.
Thanks for sharing this video, interesting and informative video.
Hopefully you will do a complete review of the 2nd Gen maybe?
Another excellent series installment.
my biggest gripe is not offering the 4cyl tacoma double cab the 4x4 option. other than that i love these trucks. so practical and fun.
Good shit bro I appreciate your delivery and your explanation.
Great Vid
People that drive my 2018 offroad that own other trucks always complain about the brakes and suspension. When I bought the truck I could really feel the booster. Small vibrations in the pedal. My truck has a shell so I dont feel a lot of chatter but I do feel body roll and the suspension seems to soft.
Videos are always awesome and extremely detailed and helpful.Love this channel!
I have the most basic 📦 Tacoma TRD off-road you could get with a 6spd manual transmission lol. I guess it's not all that simple if it's the 4X4 system but it does NOT have the technology sensors, heated 💺, 🌙 roof or leather interior... Mine came with sidesteps, mud flaps, floor mats, blacked-out badges, bed lights & exhaust tip lol that 📦 makes it look a little better imo
AMD, I would say 'no thanks' to Crawl Control and keep it simple.
Honestly brother if you’re buying a Tacoma and not off roading with it I wouldn’t get crawl. But I’m off roading crawl is actually very very good.
@@TheCarCareNut Rear drums FOREVER!!!!
I’m usually a proponent of “keep it simple” on autos, but Toyota is one of the few companies whose electronics I don’t completely distrust.
Love your Videos!!!! Happy Wednesday by the way. Love the wiper video and I plan on getting the replacements this weekend. Went four years with my current set because I’m in sunny ☀️ AZ 🌵and it doesn’t rain a lot. I don’t want the scratches on my windshield so I will change every 6-12 months like you said. Do you get push back from Toyota on some of your views? Just curious 🧐
Hi! Happy Wednesday! I don’t get push back from Toyota.
I love my 2010 Tacoma.
Was planning on keeping the Tacoma and buying a 2022 Tundra when I heard (at the time it was a rumor, so I figured they're going to address their gas eating woes) they were going to have a brand new engine for it.
Then to find out the "Big Brother" is going to have a smaller displacement engine than I have in my Tacoma 😲 How is that going to work out ?
Turbos are your friend.
Natural aspiration is no more. All Toyota trucks will have forced induction via turbocharging. 2022 Tundra and 2023 Sequoia will have the 3.5L V35A-FTS V6, likely with 409 hp and 479 lb-ft, while the 2023 4Runner and 2024 Tacoma will have the 2.4L T24A-FTS I4 with about 275 hp and 317 lb-ft. All of these trucks will also be available as hybrids, very likely with the same engine series.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 thank you for getting back to me, appreciate it.
Looks like I'm going to be forced to drop from my "old school" ways
Will forced induction engines last as long as the proven naturally aspirated engines?
@@joseramirez9599 I'm a fan of and I subscribe to "Scotty Kilmer". He has said many times that the turbo engines don't last as long as the engines that don't have the turbo.
In one of his videos he gave the many reasons, for the reason why this is.
I'm new to this channel.
One thing I like about Scotty is he does read the comments and get back to the people.
Hope this wonderful gentleman does the same.
Thanks for sharing this video, interesting information. Thanks for sharing.
Great video.keep it going. Can u do a video on the kdss system on the Toyota 4runner thanks
Ancient and old is great, it works and doesn't break!!
2015 SR5 PreRunner. Currently 125K miles. Original rear pads replaced at 105K. Just one data point.
I had a Prius with over 350,000 miles and replaced the drums and shoes once in the 12.5 years I owned it. Disc brakes lasted 200,000 miles
Love your videos!!!! I learn a lot from you!!!
I really love this channel!!!!!
Nice video. Thank you AMD.
Thank for the video I love my Tacoma stay safe.👍👍
Great video
Awesome video!! Thanks 😊
Love your channel. Very educational thank you